NASA and Christian theologists, name a more unlikely duo.
A recent interview with Rev. Dr. Andrew Davison revealed that in 2016 and 2017, NASA called in some two-dozen of the world’s greatest theologians and religious scholars to determine how the world’s major faiths would react to the revelation that alien life exists.
The project, titled "The Societal Implications of Astrobiology," was carried out at Princeton University’s Center for Theological Inquiry, with over $1 million in funding from NASA.
The recent reveal brings to mind several questions. Namely, how would the world’s major religions react to learning that life - even microbial life - exists outside of earth?
And why, exactly, was NASA conducting this study anyway?
Bring in the God Squad
It sounds like the beginning of a bad joke. Two dozen Christian priests, Jewish rabbis, and Islamic imams walk into a university.
“Religious traditions would be an important feature in how humanity would work through any such confirmation of life elsewhere” said a recent University of Cambridge divinity blog. They note that “cradles for life are likely profoundly widespread, with maybe 10 billion Earth-like planets around sun-like stars in the observable universe”... plus all those non-Earth-like planets that might be able to sustain life, too.
“There may well be a great deal of life elsewhere,” they say.
And with the recent launch of the James Webb telescope, it seems all the more likely that we may discover that life is out there sooner rather than later.
Better to have an idea of how billions of the world’s faithful would react to such news, NASA decided.
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“Non-religious people seem to overestimate the challenges that religious people… would experience if faced with evidence of alien life,” wrote Rev. Dr. Andrew Davison, one of the theologians NASA called upon.
While the official findings have yet to be revealed, the aforementioned quote is telling.
Some believe that of the many faithful, evangelical Christians would have the hardest time swallowing the existence of life beyond the stars, due to their often literal understanding of scripture. That’s what David Weintraub, associate professor of Astronomy at Vanderbilt University, says, citing the evangelical rejection of the theory of evolution due to their belief that God created the world in six days.
And then there’s the whole issue of Jesus’ sacrifice for humanity. As one Christian scholar put it, “Did Jesus die for Klingons too?”
At the very least, the discovery of alien life would inspire a whole host of brand new questions when clergy members step up to the pulpit.
And that discovery may not be as far away as some think. In 2020, an Israeli space chief told the world that he believes aliens exist, and in 2021, Pentagon officials confirmed that UFOs are real.
It sure seems like the truth is out there, and we’re getting close.
The question is: how will we react?
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Christian won't believe. They are very selective in what they choose to believe and typically believe only what they are told to believe. .
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Rev Mark D
Wait a minute, what? Very selective except they believe what they are told to. Hmmm. If that was a slam, it was a darn clever subtle one. I like it.
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Rev Mark D
How will we react? If they contact us, then we'd better be damn polite, none of this anti-immigration shit.
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Gerardo Salazar
Since the dawn of times Humans have been worshipping a deity, the great unknown one, the Greek "Agnostos Theos “ who created not only the Earth but the whole universe; diverse names have been given to this deity and basically the rules are the same: not to kill, not to steal, not to lie, etc so it follow that if there were intelligent life elsewhere the idea would be quite similar. The problem, as I see it, is the proliferation of clergy, prophets, etc, with people focusing more and more on “their” messenger instead of on the message, thus creating endless wars, pain and death when basically everybody believes the same thing.
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George D Maycott
Why would God, create mankind, place them on Earth; and let the rest of the universe void of life?
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Mattie N Boyce
Didn't God create The Heavens and Earth, and everything inside it, it should go great.
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Rev Mark D
Another great zinger. Hoo Rah!
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Lionheart
That’s only if you believe in the Bible stories and that particular deity.
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Edgar D Bitner
Let's say aliens land on the south lawn of the White House.Along with the President to greet them is a religious leader and he/she ask, is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior?The aliens reply Who?What? We don't have one of those.I can see how that might cause some consternation within the religious community.
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Alan Edwin Sevrey
i believe you have it a little wrong according to history they would demand they worship Jesus Christ and give all their gold to us or we will torture you and then kill you.
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Lionheart
If there are aliens from another planet out there, and they visited earth, one could assume they would be way more intelligent than us, so it would be interesting to know if they ever at any time embraced a god(s) concept during their evolution. I wonder if they would find it humorous seeing how many belief systems that have evolved here on earth? I’m sure they would find us very primitive in that aspect, but who knows, they might even have an even better story, or stories, of their own to share with us?🤷🏼
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Christopher John Kady
As a life-long devotee of Star Trek and other sci-fi, I think I already believe that there is life outside of this singular world and this one star system. The question I have often wrestled with is what forms that life would be. Would they bi-pedal and have limbs as humans do? Would they have similar limbs and dimensions? Would they be carbon-based life forms, or would they be of other complex cellular structures that our own science hasn’t conceived of yet?
In Star Trek: First Contact, the character of Counselor Troi, portrayed by the actress Marina Sirtis, had a line that gave me a sense of hope as teenager. When referring to the day in the fictional timeline when the first intelligent alien race contacted earth, she said: “… It unites humanity in a way no one ever thought possible. When they realize they're not alone in the universe, poverty, disease, war - they'll all be gone within the next fifty years...” I think that is a wonderful thought that opens up a great deal of positive possibilities to expand and deepen faith.
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taycomama
Did that NASA gathering include any non-Abrahamic religions?
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John P Maher
IT SHOULD MAKE LINES for MILES for THE TELEPHONES ON PARK TREES !
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
Check out the Urantia Book. It states that Heaven is actually the planet Nebadon. That Jesus was one of the incarnations of Michael of Nebadon and that his purpose was to re-establish the connection between Earth and Nebadon.
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Peggy Jane Williams Thomas
I loved reading the Urantia book especially about Jesus' life. Then I came across information telling how this book was "down loaded" to humans but not direct experience of it. Kinda like getting it second hand information. Maybe it decreases it's accuracy. So search the history about how the book came about to see for yourself. Either great book has been misinterpreted because of human agenda & desire for control or power, possibly
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Daniel Gray
They will have no worries. The Catholic Church and the baptist as well as 4 other different denominations all say the same thing...we are NOT alone in the Universe so we should accept this fact that there is life out there somewhere and rejoice when we find them.
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Chris
In religious high school and college I was told (not taught officially) that the Earth was not the only world God had created life on. We were just the only planet that fell to evil and so the other planets didn't want to associate with us. They simply looked down on us from afar and pitied us. Therefore any UFOs could not be true alien life from other planets.
I always found that point of view a bit ridiculous personally.
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Mattie N Boyce
Great, I am sure.
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Geoffrey C. Olive
It wouldn't make any difference to the god squad here what the existence of aliens would do to the belief that the god of humanity created the universe including the aliens. Only if aliens came to Earth and demonstrated absolutely that there was an alternative to a sky daddy would human religionists be convinced, although I would expect them to try to spin it back to monotheism!
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Charles Jude Platt
2021 was a rough year. I lost a dear friend of 43+ years. He believed the "aliens were the higher power." We both believe that Heaven is Planet Zigton. When it's my turn to get there, I will let you know.... The Wizard of Planet Zigton, lol.
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Mark Hannon
I'm not sure about the Planet Zigton or any other planet we use a name other than science gives them as they find them. I have wondered that we were visited by actual beings and that's why we often have people as God rather than just finding God in nature. Be sure to visit if you go first so you can follow up on your promise!
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Reverend Kurt
Humanity fears that which it cannot understand. Violence is the first course of action. Anyone or thing differing to our beliefs/ faiths, must be eliminated or destroyed. Anything we cannot control is a threat therefore subject to violence and destruction. this seems to be hardwired into all humanity, regardless of politics or beliefs. This present global crisis (Real or manufactured?) has shown that fear is a powerful force that turns man against his own, that fear( real or manufactured) can control the population better than laws, politics or war. Alien contact, (real or manufactured) in the short term, will cause untold mayhem worldwide. Instigating deaths, economic collapse, family structure disintegrating. Worldwide martial law will have to be implemented perhaps spurring a new religion?? After this present crisis, UFO and Aliens (real or manufactured) seem to be an inevitable event. Can't happen?? remember Orson Wells "war of the Worlds" broadcast. That was only a a small localised event, yet the damage was vast.
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Reverend Kurt
We live in interesting and exciting times. Life in the foreseeable future will be anything but dull!
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The Gray Minister
I think many will flip out Probley because governments have covered this up for so long.
Why wouldn’t people flip out of what has been hidden from us.
But to think that The Creator didn’t go on to Creator more would be unethical. I think thats the word I want to use.
It’s what the Creator does. He creates.
I believe and whats going to happen when The Word comes back and it’s a huge UFO that he comes back in.
It’s like theirs a new world and the old one past away.
To me. That means theirs another planet out there.
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Rev Mark D
"It’s what the Creator does. He creates."
Well then, seems to me he can punish, torture, kill, destroy too, if he wants. And he can lie too, if he wants. Who is to say different?
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
For any “much more technologically-advanced civilization” to actually visit our Earth, it would have rid itself of all ignorance-dependent religions (all of them) before they were able to do so.
All religions are attempts to explain things, before science became the accepted method of explaining where, when, and why everything exists.
Therefore, If and when any advanced civilization contacts us, they’ll view any of whatever’s left of religion on our planet, as an indication of just how far we have to go scientifically.
Religion is a measure (a sort of barometer) of just how scientifically advanced a civilization is.
We Secular Humanist Pantheists have the only science-based religion (philosophy) that any advanced civilization would respect.
Because the SHP religion knows (doesn’t just believe) that nature and God are the same thing,
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ether_ore
I think you make a few leaps that “assume too much.” I agree that religion may start as a means to explain that which is currently unexplainable, however my thinking is that ORGANIZED religions objectives are power and control. There is no reason to think an advanced civilization would not use such a tool for themselves.
In such a circumstance, the religiosity of a group provides little as an indicator for how technologically advanced they are. A perfect example being the United States themselves. We are obviously among the most technologically advanced population on the planet, and are also highly “religious” by our own description.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
The inhabitants of many planets have their own religions, and most of them are nothing like the ones we have here. Ofcourse, I'm mostly talking about past life memories again. Not all of us have had all or even most of our incarnations on this planet. And then there are those planetary visits during astral projection; out of body experiences. And also astral visits from alien spirits who also seek knowledge about us. There's never a full moment in the life of a Witch like me. I pity the mundane people who can't experience anything beyond their five senses. And I don't have a shred of demonstrable evidence, nor do I need any. I know what I've experienced, and that's good enough for me.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
That damn spell checker poltergeist changed never a boring moment to never a full moment, in my above post. Please correct.
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arawngraalrd
They should ask Brahmana and Vooduni how their flocks react to those Foreigners with Selfy Sticks.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
I don't even want to know very many of the people from this planet, and don't care for most of the ones I've known already. Even though I've had friends of different ethnicities and walks of life, atleast they all come from this planet, as far as I can tell, through which we atleast can relate in that way. I don't care to even meet anyone who I can't relate to that much. Besides that, from what I've seen of reported descriptions of aliens they are all butt ugly, so I wouldn't even care to look at them. However, since they aren't human it wouldn't be cannibalistic to slow roast them on spickets, with apples in their mouths. And they might taste good. I bet some of them would do the same thing to us, if given the chance, and may have already. It's not a good idea to trust and be kind to strangers, wherer they come from. "Beware of the wolf in sheep's clothing".
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Flugo, I made a grammatical error in the next to the last sentence of my above comment, and am trying to save you the trouble of trying to embarrass me, by pointing it out.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
And how many religionists of other religions think and are convinced of the same things about their religions, William? What factual scientific evidence do you have that nature and god are the same thing. Not that a Wiccan or student of Hermetic philosophy like me would doubt that The All or Ultimate Unknowable Deity is all inclusive.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
I bet flugo won't comment on this topic. He doesn't seem to want anyone to know he's not from this planet.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
This planet is already overpopulated, and a lot of the people are 👽 in disguise. We don't need any more 👽 shapeshifters taking up our valuable space. So if we identify any of them we need to beam them abourd the Enterprise, and take them to another planet.
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William Wmj Johnson
There are no Alains for real it because it is a make up
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Lionheart
We actually do not know that as a certainty. It is very possible you’re right William, but there is no way to know for sure. One day an alien might actually show up, much like a deity might one day show up. Perhaps until then we can assume neither is real? 🤷
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Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
I think extraterrestrials will avoid us due to our mania for being concerned about bodily functions in our advertisements.
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Ronaldo
It would be a really sad day for Mankind if visitors from another planet arrived, and we asked "is Jesus your Savior?" and they answered, "no, we never fell from Grace, so never needed a savior." How would we react if it turned out that they had proof of God and Jesus, but humanity was the only creation of God that turned away from Him in the beginning, so He had to send his Son to take care of the problem?
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Michael Barton
I bet a lot of folks won't be able to handle it. Some will be in denial. Others will adapt and say the Bible said Aliens existed all along.
In our Religion, Aliens exist and we're just mad they haven't made themselves known publicly.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
It could be that our entire species came from other planets, one race at a time, a million years ago. But what difference does it make. We're all here now, or atleast most of us are, so we better make the best of it, and learn to get along with we eachother, since we aren't going back to where we came from.
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Douglas Stephen Saldivar
“The way had not, at all times and places, the selfsame name; the sage had not, at all times and places, the selfsame body. Heaven caused a suitable religion to be instituted for every region and clime so that each one of the races of mankind might be saved.” Emperor Tang Taizong of China 638 AD
A truly loving God would not limit knowledge of the eternal to one small group of humans. God has provided a suitable savior or sage for peoples around the globe based on their culture and traditions. What those people do with the knowledge God has provided them is the real problem. If we can acknowledge this for our world, why we would deny it to all the other worlds in the universe. I firmly believe in a loving God who created and gave knowledge to all the races and nations of Earth and who also created and gave knowledge and salvation to all the life on other worlds.
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Lisa Baker
There are some great episodes on the original Babylon 5 that deal with these topics. Thought provoking, good stories.
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Eric D Peck
There had better be aliens! Otherwise our tax dollars just went toward asking a bunch of people how they would feel about a hypothetical situation! How many people could we have fed with a million dollars?
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Jim Rosenberg
From a Buddhist standpoint it seems clear that it makes no difference, but if Christ died for the sins of humanity and was crucified, what about the planet inhabited by creatures with 6 limbs, would they have their own Jesus, and their own method of crucifixion?
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Ofcourse Jim, all planets have their own Jesus, and their own Siddhartha Goitima, etc.. Everything is the same throughout the universe, and throughout parellel universes, in every dimension. All people are are from the same souls. Or, everything is different. Some places have savior's, and some don't, depending on the need of the people, how much they want to believe in one, and how good they are at telling tales. Now breath in slowly, and focus solely on your breath, in the present moment, exhale slowly, and repeat. Continue doing that until you have an excelled complete awakening. Then you will be enlightened, and know all.
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Karen M Butler
There are so, so many referrals to superior beings in the Bible, how could anyone deny that there is life elsewhere?
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Edward J. Palumbo
It is difficult for me to believe that we are the sole inhabitants, the only sentient beings created, on this dust mote of a planet in the vastness of the universe. We worship a God who does not "waste", and obviously there is room for others to exist. I suspect the distances are wisely provided to protect us or others. If these other beings exist, how does that change the Word of God for us? I see nothing in Scripture to indicate no other creation exists. I consider the vastness of the galaxies and the provisions of a loving God, and consider it entirely possible (indeed, probable) that other life forms exist. I have no idea how they would react to us or what their perspective may be of God, and I hope those questions may someday be answered, but my purpose is not altered; I was created to serve and glorify God. Are we to assume our role is unique and nothing or no one else may have a relationship with the Creator? I think that is presumptuous.
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Peggy Jane Williams Thomas
First off, humans are still so barbaric as we keep killing each other & sentient beings unlike those galactic brothers & sisters who are millions of years more advanced. Now I myself can't talk directly but there are hundreds of others who can or who allow the high consciousness to speak through them. As long as there are forces here on earth selfish & self serving and who seek control, we are held down in doubt and not allowed the benefits of these masters - angels -we call them. I have many resources of of who have connections. Raise you vibration through LOVE especially, no judgment, forgive & forget as we don't need that baggage in the higher dimensions. Believing is seeing. Peace be with you. I am in service to others.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
I haven't killed anyone yet Peggy, have you? We aren't all bàrbaric. And why do you think aliens are any better, or smarter than us. Some of them might have more advanced space travel, so they have some more advanced engineers, that doesn't say anything about the average people of their planet.
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John D. Partin
Since this is a public forum, I'll answer that for her. First off, not following as obviously self-centered, egotistical, indifferent to other people, cynical, lying, and manipulative a person as Trump is!! Since he doesn't represent true Christian values and so why would any true Christians follow, approve of, or, least of all, worship someone like that, especially since it is so obvious that that is what he is, to anyone who really looks at him?!! That will do for starters!!
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Maurice Slaunwhite
A Letter To The Universal Life Church I Maurice S Slaunwhite do believe there are beings out there in this vast universe and they are more intelligent than we are. In the year of 2007 while i was on watch with United Protection Services a huge UFO was just above me all lit up and that was the most beautiful thing i have ever seen in my life. I looked at it and then i flashed my flashlight at it three times and then the UFO went straight in the sky and i saw it flying in the sky and it was flying further upwards until it disappeared into the universe. This all happened at 2:57 AM. As far as it goes for Jesus, He was a man who was born of the virgin Mary who was conceived by the Holy Spirit. What is written in the Bible is a Pure fact and nothing else. Check it out with the Dead Sea Scrolls, The Quran and the Bible. In the Bible Jesus was and still is referred as He which means Jesus Christ was born a male person who walked on this earth. My Grandfather once told me in the year of 1936 a UFO landed on the main street in New York and a voice had spoken saying ( If the wars do not stop we are coming back to take over.) This part of the news was written in the New York Times In the year of 1936. With that i can say a great big God bless each and every one of you and stay very well and do good.
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Rev. Dr. James Jacob Showers Jr
Are you ready for this. I do believe in Aliens. Due to the expansiveness of the Universe, we cannot be the only life around. Whether Microbial, Terrestrial or Extra terrestrial. Thank you to the History Channel and the production entitled Ancient Aliens.Especially if we view life, actual life from the education models of our generation. in the 50's to the present. If they should pass the 1614 review if I am not mistaken, and they look at the actual slave trade and all of its aspects, it will definitely rein true. So thank you almighty Creator, for the wayshowers of the past and those yet to come. Thank you for the input on this very important topic.Easter Isalnd..Nam Matal..Gobleki Tepei. The Druids..The Norse..and one of my favorite series, which isn't entirely accurate, but does leave an amazing thought American Gods. So if I am about to lose my ministerial credentials, I guess you really don't see the world by the same organizational phrase:'We are Children of the same Universe'. I'll pray for you and God knows I love to pray, instead of preying on you.'. Be at peace. The Almighty gives us all free will.
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Rev. Dr. James Jacob Showers Jr
Thank you to the Almighty Creator and the Ethiopic Chuch. With such amazing books as Ezekial, the Books of Enoch, and this is just from the Christian Tradition of the Western World. Not to mention the buddhist, hindu, tenrikyo, jainism, zoroastrianism, the muslim tradiotion and their amazing art, shinto and a whole host of other 'wayshowers' from the past generations.
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Lionheart
That is of course, if there really is a creator…..who really knows for sure? Books of all faiths are really interesting aren’t they? Personally, I’ve always liked the Bhagavad Gita, and more recently Harry Potter 🤷🏼
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John D. Partin
What about the books of your atheistic faith, even if you won't and don't admit that it's a faith, and the interesting and wrong things that they tell you, such as a "mindless universe running itself" or "prayers being answered by nobody"?!! Your books deserve to be condescended to and laughed at far more than you claim that religious books do, since your books are about magical and illogical "thinking" far more than any other religious books are or than Harry Potter books are!!!
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Juan Carlos Alatorre
Dear Brohers and sisters Religion is one thing that separate sour beliefs.. Our love and faith about God;s own existance and creation is real.. We all have souls and nobody can take that away from us. Our faith brings us closer than ever as brothers and sisters under one universe as human beings. Alliens from outer space are real . Them are the origin of the fallen angels and that is how the antichrist will fullfill its evillness plan in Apocapypse biblical revelations. We are living rev. 6 the 4th seal experience pestilence famine ,epidemics, hunger and death.. Remain strong faithful on to God's word and live by the 10th commandments. We are his chosen children sealed 144,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel..
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David Roth
God did create the Heavens and the Earth in 6 days and rested the 7th. So In a week he created alot... Wouldn't be shocking if he created multiple earth's. He literally flooded our entire earth once because of evil and wanted to destroy it except Noah was alive and He liked him.. The possibilities are endless with God and we couldn't even try to comprehend His plans. Imagine other worlds with similar stories of creation... Or perhaps these other worlds are hidden from us because they did not fall into sin..Think about it... If Adam and Eve didn't eat from the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, none of us would exhist...
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Cathy Sue Thompson
The new God is Google.. everyone gives all their attention to it . Everyone turns to it for answers
If christians can change their entire belief system to accommodate the worship of Donald Trump, they can easily adapt their religion to anything.
David Arthur Lewis Real Christians did not approve of, let alone Worship Trump. He is as far from Christianity as one can be.
Colleen McAllister - So are you saying that evangelicals are not christian? What exactly are your requirements for being a "Real Christian"?
Bam! 'Nuff said.
When people vote, they primarily vote for the politics of the party for the good of the country. If people just voted for the leader of the party I doubt the very inept, rambling Biden would currently be in office. Im sure he means well, but is clearly out if his depth to lead the country, clearly evidenced by rising prices, shortage of food, Covid running rampant, and the out-of-control illegal immigration, which he said he had a “plan” to take care of during his run-up to the election.
It seems most government leaders have their own personal issues, evidenced by Donald Trump, and Bill Clinton’s behavior, just to name two Presidents.
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The Republican Party was corrupt and pro-rich people and anti-poor and middle class people long before the Donald showed up, and so wrong for the country, since the rich aren't the whole or majority of the country, even though they think that they are. He was just the most extreme example of that policy. The only two good or better than usual Republican Presidents were Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt, and they wouldn't be accepted as Republicans by the current Republican Party if they were here or to come back today, as is shown by Liz Cheney's being removed by Republicans from GOP leadership for the "terrible crime" of denouncing Trump and opposing his flunky Kevin McCarthy, but Marjorie Taylor Greene's still being honored and respected by Republicans, despite all her outrageous statements and actions, and only removed from committee by Democrats. Eisenhower was inept in his dealings with Kruschev and only had one shining moment in speaking against the military/industrial complex, but it was left to a Democrat John F. Kennedy to deal competently and forcefully with Kruschev. Your guy's "solution" to the immigration problem was to have little children taken away from their parents and locked up in detainment centers and create a situation at the border where a father and daughter, in desperation to come to this country to escape from criminal gangs and have a better life, drowned while trying to get across the Rio Grande to avoid being denied admission at the entry point. You claim that you are "a caring person", but are against people's getting in here for asylum from criminal gangs and getting special consideration and treatment for that, the same as people in the emergency rooms of hospitals get special treatment, which makes you only caring about your own class of people and not for those who need emergency assistance. It is obvious for that and many other reasons why you don't accept the teachings of the Bible, since it says "Inasmuch as you have done it unto the least of these, my brethren, you have done it unto me", "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you", "Love your neighbor as yourself", and "Help the stranger in your midst", and following those teachings would get in the way of what you want to do and how you want to think. So, you just ignore them all and toss out the baby with the bathwater and the whole Bible, using the stories in it, which aren't meant to be taken literally, as an excuse for doing so. When you become guilty of everything that anyone wants to make up about you, to scapegoat you and out of pure maliciousness, then you could believe more reasonably (though still be wrong) that God is guilty of everything that the Bible writers accused Him of doing or ordering people to do, but until you become guilty of all the crimes that people accuse you of doing, it is a double standard and hypocrisy for you to believe that God is guilty of everything that He is accused of, especially since you dismiss all the stories in the Bible, anyway, but then say "Oh, but God actually did all these things!!". That is totally illogical and inconsistent on your part!! The Donald was totally out of his depth while trying to be "President" and couldn't pull it off. Biden, despite his human and normal age problems, at least, shows up for press conferences and answers questions, and doesn't insult reporters or walk out of them. He is, at least, doing something about our problems, which is more than your guy ever did, since his idea of "being President" was sitting in the White House residence and doing Twitter and watching TV because, of course, "that is what he was 'elected' to do", along with playing golf or driving protesters out of a park just so that he could have a photo op at a church whose pastor didn't want him there and hold a Bible upside down!!! Your guy didn't even mean well, but only cared about himself and still does!! He agitated his supporters on January 6th, 2021 into attacking the Capitol and trying to disrupt our Democratic election process and destroy our government!!! Nobody else in the Presidency in history has ever done anything as rotten as that, which alone, not to mention everything else that he did and thousands of lies that he told, makes him the worst "President" in our history!!!
I think the fact that so many church goers follow Donald Trump with nearly blind and mindless devotion points to the fact that they were never truly Christians in the first place. For indeed, Donald Trump is the epitomy of everything opposed to Christian values, and biblical truth.
Man! Be careful. How do you guys know anyone's heart. AANNNND, You are both really quite good at braodbrushing. Oh,yeah, and judgement, too.
If you don't know that there are as many Democrats influenced by the corporate money machine as there are republicans, I would respectfully request that pull your head out of the sand and try to balance your resources of information. CNN nor FOX present all of the news in a balanced fashion.
Please mix it up a bit.