If you can't beat 'em, join 'em? Every June, the arrival of Pride Month sets off a predictable counter-reaction from religiously conservative leaders who view the monthlong celebration of the LGBTQ+ community as, at best, excessive and, at worst, abhorrent. This year, in a bold move of counter-programming, many of these leaders have set about creating what might be described as their own version of Pride Month: Nuclear Family Month.
The governors of Indiana and Tennessee have officially proclaimed June a celebration of family units made up of "one husband, one wife and any biological, adopted or fostered children." Alabama went with Strong Families Month. Utah and Arkansas chose Fidelity Month. In at least four other states, lawmakers have introduced similar legislation hoping to create their own permanent month-long designations. The organizer behind several of these efforts, legal scholar Robert P. George, put it plainly: "Nobody gets a monopoly on a particular day or a particular month."
The proclamations don't mention Pride Month by name. But Lakie Derrick, the activist who helped author Tennessee's resolution, was candid about the intention. "We're just reclaiming the culture," she said, "and there's no better month to do that than in a month where the culture says we're gonna celebrate something so opposite to what we know to be right."
That framing raises a question worth sitting with: does religion actually teach what these proclamations assume it does?
The Nuclear Family Is a Modern Invention
Here's something that rarely makes it into these proclamations: the "nuclear family," as a concept, barely predates the Cold War. The term first appeared in American dictionaries in 1924 and only became the dominant cultural ideal in the 1950s, partly as a symbol of stability against Soviet communism. It describes the situation in which one father and one mother reside in a single household with their children. For most of human history and across most of the world's cultures, the extended family was the norm, with grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins and servants all sharing resources and child-rearing responsibilities under one roof.
The Bible, for what it's worth, actually features very few nuclear families. Abraham's household was enormous, multi-generational, and included servants. Ruth's loyalty to her mother-in-law Naomi is one of Scripture's most celebrated bonds, and it's between two women who chose each other after death severed their familial ties. Even Jesus may have grown up in an alternate setup: his (Earthly) father, Joseph, disappears entirely from the narrative by the time he is 12. For all we know, he was raised in a single-parent household alongside brothers, sisters, and cousins.
Even throughout his (relatively short) adulthood, he continued to eschew what we would today describe as a nuclear family setup in favor of an itinerant existence with his cohort of followers. The tradition would continue even after his passing: the early Church described in Acts shared is described everything communally, with members selling property and distributing to anyone in need.
None of this makes the nuclear family wrong. But it does complicate the claim that it is the singular, divinely ordained family structure.
What the Gays Have To Say
For LGBTQ+ advocates, these proclamations are both a political statement and a personal one.
"It's not lost upon LGBTQ people when elected leaders don't recognize or value the visibility of the community," said Josh Coleman of Central Alabama Pride. "That's why Pride started in the first place, to make sure the community had a community."
Alex Richardson of Indy Pride offered a different angle on what families actually look like on the ground: "Sure, the governor's right, the nuclear family is worth celebrating. But I think so is the grandmother who raises her grandchildren, or the chosen family that shows up when a biological family can't, or won't."
Marina Lowe of Equality Utah noted something that often gets lost in this debate: "Many LGBTQ+ people also value faith and family. I don't think that these positions need to be in conflict with one another."
That last point is harder to dismiss than it might seem. LGBTQ+ Christians, Jewish families, and Muslim couples raising children exist in large numbers. They hold deep faith commitments, and many of these proclamations appear to exclude them entirely.
A Question Religions Are Still Working Through
This debate goes far beyond culture war. It has become a live theological argument happening inside nearly every major religious tradition.
The Southern Baptist Convention just passed a constitutional amendment reinforcing that only men can serve as pastors, part of a broader effort to define clear boundaries on gender and family. The Presbyterian Church USA, meanwhile, is heading into its General Assembly with a proposal that implicitly acknowledges the breadth of its members' family arrangements. Even within Catholicism, Pope Leo XIV has repeatedly emphasized human dignity as a value that transcends any particular family structure.
The "nuclear family," in other words, is not a settled religious conclusion. It is one vision of how faith and family intersect, a vision that holds deep meaning for millions of people and is genuinely contested by millions of others who take their own faith equally seriously.
Could the Nuclear Family Explode?
The governors who signed these proclamations are drawing a line. So are the Pride organizations, faith communities, and ordinary families who feel excluded by it. What's striking is that both sides are making a claim about love, commitment, and community, values that sit at the center of nearly every religious tradition on earth.
At its heart, the disagreement isn't about whether family matters. It's about who gets to be a part of one.
What do you think? Does the concept of a "nuclear family" reflect your understanding of family, or does your faith point toward something broader?
94 comments
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Leslie A. Hulberg Née Tomasura
I love the way the preacher says, “There’s no better way to say what we know to be right.” Hello, is he saying that God made a mistake? According to the Bible he made us in his image. Is God gay? Bisexual? Does he like to dress in drag? In my opinion, his image is love. Regardless of who that is with. Since God loves us all equally (according to the Bible). You can’t have it both ways. My feeling is that those who are so bent out of shape about what others do in their bedrooms, probably have some deep seated homosexual tendencies that they can’t seem to face. You don’t see LGBTQIA people freaking out because someone loves someone from the other genders. If anything I have found that the LGBTQIA community tend to have a more accepting attitude towards people in general regardless of race, creed, or orientation. I think if more supposed Christians worried about what they are doing or how they are behaving and let the rest of the world do what they do, the world would be a much happier and safer place. It should not matter what anyone else is doing. And if they are trying to hit on you and it isn’t your way, all you have to do is say, Thank you, but I am not interested. Nothing more.
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Rolando Couce
GAY PEOPLE WANT NORMAL PEOPLE WHO THEY ARE HAVING SEX WITH HOW PATHETIC THERE WAS A TIME WHEN NORMAL GAY PEOPLE WERE SMART NOW THEY HAVE BECOME SO DUMB WOW I REMMEBER THEY WERE PROUD OF HOW SMART THEY WERE BUT NOW THEY HAVE REMAINED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL
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Brien
Okay, just a couple of small things off topic... 1. DON'T USE ALL CAPS. It is rude and is considered yelling. 2. USE punctuation. All those dots, hash marks and the like help the reader figure out what you are saying. Honestly, I read your post twice and still have no clue as to what you are saying. I hope this helps you on any future posts. Peace ✌️
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Bent_Not_Broken
Let's break the point of contention down to the most manageable possible and remove the contentious, religious, personal and opinion. That would leave the natural, the way the other creatures on this planet interact with and relate to one another. Answering a few questions pertaining to Mammals as well as some questions that will cover a broader population of the animal kingdom: 1• Does any other member of the animal kingdom engage in intercourse purely for pleasure? * 2• Does any other member of the animal kingdom have intercourse with the same sex? 3• If 'yes' is answered for question 2 what is the causation? 3 • If question 2 is answered with a 'yes' then question 1 must be a 'yes' as reproduction cannot occur via intercourse of the same sex. This litmus will stand scrutiny as well as show the ideals of homosexuality are human constructs borne from the abhorrent desire of the human condition that perceives itself master of nature. A refusal of truth perpetuated by the book of Genesis in the Judeo Christian and Islamic belief systems. * Examples such as mules which are sterile from birth yet engage in intercourse are not relevant as they are not viable for reproduction .
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Rev. Kev
Answer to questions 1 and 2: Yes. Answer to question 3: Genetics. Same as humans.
If same sex relations are abhorrent to anyone, that is their subjective opinion. They have the right to hold that opinion. And others equally have the right to reject that opinion.
Personally, I don't spend much time thinking about the topic. It's a non-issue to me. If people want to live a certain way and are adults capable of making an informed decision for themselves then that's their business. As long as whatever is happening is legal and no one is being coerced then I see no problems. Live and let live. Not my job to live anyone else's lives for them.
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Michael Hunt
"1• Does any other member of the animal kingdom engage in intercourse purely for pleasure?"
Yes.
"2• Does any other member of the animal kingdom have intercourse with the same sex?"
Yes.
"3• If 'yes' is answered for question 2 what is the causation?" Genetics, as Rev. Kev has also stated. Studies have identified numerous genes that appear to play a role in a person's sexuality.
"3 • If question 2 is answered with a 'yes' then question 1 must be a 'yes' as reproduction cannot occur via intercourse of the same sex."
Correct.
"This litmus will stand scrutiny as well as show the ideals of homosexuality are human constructs borne from the abhorrent desire of the human condition that perceives itself master of nature."
This is a huge leap and it contradicts your first 4 statements. Homosexuality is not a human construct if other members of the animal kingdom are homosexual. That would suggest a biological imperative ingrained in our genetics, not something humanity has created.
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Cisco
I don't know why people complicate things so much and feel we have to insult one another to get our point across cause that's all this is nowadays. Look I believe everyone should be treated fairly no matter what cause in the end where all human who bleed the same no matter what you believe in these days. All i know is everyone has a right to express themselves in any way they feel as long as it doesn't interfere in my beliefs or force me have to do something I don't want too or believe in then I'm fine. No one should make you feel as you have to choose a side or try and make you believe your something your not, only you know your worth and truth of ones self. The real issue is this, we as people are heading into a frontier that is forever changing and must adapt to survive but we must not forget our past and our heritage as this is what made us who we are today. It's unfortunate that we don't focus on this more and less on other petty things that are not worth putting an effort in wasting so much time and energy on. I'm glad the LGBTQ+ is now recognized now in which they should but at the same time don't take it as right to attack the straight and religious beliefs that we all grew up with a children, trying to force people to conform or change on how they view, talk and believe is true to them. It's a mistake that will only bring more hatred and violence toward one another not understanding and acceptance.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Cisco, Best worded response I have seen in awhile! Thank you.
Dr. D
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Rev Ned
Haters gotta hate.
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Bridget Kielas-Fecyk
This is rather ridiculous in my opinion. The "nuclear family" is celebrated all year 'round, not just one month out of the year. It's celebrated at almost every major holiday and touted at those holidays. The fact that people feel free to spew hate at those who are different, even here, says something about the community.
Btw, being LGBTQ+ is NOT a "perversion", it is NOT a "mental illness", and it is NOT a "disease that can be cured". It has been proven, time and again, to be GENETIC. In essence, a person is BORN that way. They are, at birth, hardwired to be gay / lesbian / bi / trans etc.
If you come here to scream that I'm "wrong" and about "god's will" and all that BS, look it up yourself at the research on genetics and the LGBTQ+ community. And not just articles that make you "feel good" but actual scientific research.
The reason there is PRIDE month is the same there is "Black History Month". Because of the fact hate is so prevalent, and so insidious, that something has to be done to attempt, even in small ways, to counteract it. In this case, by pointing out these individuals exist AND have made major contributions to society.
Many highly talented researchers, architects, engineers, and so forth, ones who've had massive impacts on the way we now live, were LGBTQ+. Many inventors that invented some of the things we now take for granted were LGBTQ+. People don't like hearing that just like many hate hearing about female inventors that changed society, or black researchers that discovered cutting edge, at the time, treatments that now saves millions of lives daily, and has saved several billions over the years.
Rather than falling back on hate and spewing fear and rhetoric, how about learning some facts? You know, the TRUTH doesn't care about people's dogma.
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Steven Ferrell
If the can have a month to celebrate the alphabet group sin, they can have a month to celebrate what God intended, one man and one woman and family.
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Bridget Kielas-Fecyk
You ARE aware that being LGBTQ+ is GENETIC right? You're born that way. Which means your GOD made that community. But I suppose hate has to find more hate to spread.
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ServantOfJudgement
An airplane is not designed to fail. We know they do though.
Man is not designed to be sinful. We know they are though.
Don't confuse an out of spec product with the intended design found in the blueprint for the product.
A fallen world with corrupted Man is responsible for people being gay, not God.
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Rev. Kev
Bridget is right. It's genetics. Nothing to do with "corruption" or "sin". "Sin" itself being little more than a theological concept not universally shared by all.
I wasn't aware there was an actual blueprint with specifications somewhere for homo sapiens. I find myself doubting that.
It's sad that there is so much backward thinking in this day and age. smh
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ServantOfJudgement
Rev Kev, it's widely known and accepted that all life has a blueprint. We tiny humans only see part of that blueprint we lovingly call DNA.
We still know very little about our blueprint. When people say sexual preferences is genetic, it's actually wishful thinking that explains our behavior in a way that satisfies our heart. Like 'God works in mysterious ways' instead of 'I don't know'. Self satisfying explanation.
We know our blueprint has been tampered with because of things like cancer and child molestation. Our immune system will actually attack our own body. This tells us we've all been corrupted.
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Rev. Kev
SOJ:
You wrote: "it's widely known and accepted that all life has a blueprint".
Widely known? OK. Well, I have no idea if that claim is true or not. It doesn't matter either way. It's essentially a bandwagon fallacy.
You continued: "We tiny humans only see part of that blueprint we lovingly call DNA."
Not that DNA fits any standard definition of a blueprint. But what does it mean to say "we" only see "part" of it? The human genome has been thoroughly mapped.
Is more of this supposed blueprint complete with specifications stashed somewhere else?
You then wrote: "When people say sexual preferences is genetic, it's actually wishful thinking that explains our behavior in a way that satisfies our heart."
That's false. Sorry. Sexual expressions and attractions all occur on a biological level, most of it totally autonomic. A host of functions take place of which a person is unaware and over which they have no control. It's all in the brain. And based in genetics. Or, to use your poor analogy, based in their blueprints. 😎
Nothing has been "tampered with" or "corrupted" as such. People can be born with genetic disorders as the consequences of things like genetic mutations or errors in copying. But that doesn't mean someone is "corrupted." I certainly see no reason to write as if cancer is in any way related to child molestation. They have nothing at all in common and require quite different treatments.
Probably the only things I can compare to being corrupted comes as the result of things like unhealthy or destructive parenting skills, religious mistreatment, and certain social pressures.
As with the majority of your posts, you make these assertions as if they are fact with no support and in direct opposition to things people DO actually know and can be researched by referencing a proper academic journal or four.
Your entire position lends itself to conclude we are simply imperfect results of biology in action and not at all "designed" by some Master Creator. Especially if we are so very easily "corrupted".
I mean....seriously.....who puts the breathing and swallowing tube together? Doesn't take a genius to figure out the problems there. Or wiring the human eye backwards, giving us a blind spot and weakly attached retina? Among a list of other human issues that makes the idea of some all-knowing Creator quite humorous.
We aren't corrupted. We're just people trying to live.
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Bridget Kielas-Fecyk
You ARE aware that being LGBTQ+ is GENETIC right? You're born that way. Which means your GOD made that community. But I suppose hate has to find more hate to spread.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Bridget,
I understand why you feel strongly about this, and I appreciate your willingness to engage in the discussion.
For my part, I do not hate LGBTQ+ people, nor do I believe they are any less worthy of dignity, respect, or love than anyone else. My faith teaches me that every person is created by God and deserves to be treated with compassion.
As for whether sexual orientation is entirely genetic, my understanding is that many psychologists, geneticists, and researchers have concluded that the issue is more complex than either "born that way" or "chosen." Various studies have explored the roles of genetics, prenatal development, environment, and other factors, and there is still ongoing discussion about how these influences interact. Even among researchers, there is not a consensus that a single genetic cause has been identified.
Where we may differ is in how we understand the moral or theological implications of these questions. But I don't think disagreement automatically means hatred. People can sincerely hold different beliefs while still caring about one another and recognizing each other's dignity and humanity.
I hope we can discuss the issue without assuming the worst motives of those who see it differently.
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Brother Peter
Fidelity Month has gotten no traction at all here in Utah. Maybe got a passing comment in the media. However the Pride Day parade is always well attended and enjoyed.
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Michael Hunt
I love to hear that!
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Paul Johnson
Its not a black or white thing not a gay are straight thing it's do you really care thing. if you don't care enough to follow and trust God then what difference does it make. Its a choice thing if you don't believe that there is a God that's a choice. You get to pick whether you want to follow God's plan are the enemies plan. Take time and read the book it will give you the answer that we all are seeking,
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ServantOfJudgement
I have a close associate who councils troubled souls, sometimes children.
A child client was brought in by her/his parents in hopes my associate could help the young girl's mental state.
The girl planned on and documented the strong desire to do serious bodily harm to one of her three moms that was raising her.
The three moms were flabbergasted and had no idea what could possibly be wrong with their child who was also attempting to be a boy.
This is the sorry state of normalcy in a non nuclear family. I'll be honest, if I'm a chick with three rainbow haired moms barking at me all day, I'll switch to a boy too. Wow.
If we assume all parents are benevolent towards their children, a married couple, that is a Man and a woman, can not be surpassed in its perfection and performance of raising healthy minded children.
In all ways, a same sex household is inferior to a proper and traditional union housing with regards to children.
Marriage is two different and unique components specifically designed to be joined and function as a singular unit.
Man+man=2 Women+woman=2 Man+Woman=1 1>2
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Michael Hunt
"In all ways, a same sex household is inferior to a proper and traditional union housing with regards to children."
This is factually inaccurate.
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/
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ServantOfJudgement
That's a pro homosexual study conducted by a leftist university. Of course it will attempt dispute and derail truth.
The outcome of that study is a consensus by people who don't dare paint same sex parenting with any negativity at all. This renders the study down to pure propaganda. They Had to conclude as they did, it was their only choice by design.
Absolute truth requires no consensus. It can be denied by the willing but not disproven.
In no way can a man replicate the natural role of a mother nor can woman replicate the natural effects of a father. In this way, a proper marriage with offspring will always have a leg up on any other parental scenario.
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Rev. Kev
What an pithy rebuttal.
It boils down to "nuh uh."
To what "absolute truth" do you refer, and how do you demonstrate it to be such?
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ServantOfJudgement
Absolute truth: In no way can a man replicate the natural role of a mother nor can woman replicate the natural effects of a father. In this way, a proper marriage with offspring will always have a leg up on any other parental scenario.
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Rev. Kev
SOJ:
Your response leads me to more questions. What, exactly, is the "natural role" of a mother? Can you be specific?
What are the "natural effects" of a father? Again, can you be specific?
Do you have any source material in support of such?
I have never heard those terms employed so have zero idea to what you refer and it would be unwise of me to just blindly guess.
When you mention a "proper marriage with offspring" does that mean that only marriages with said offspring are considered "proper" in your view? What does the term "proper marriage" even mean? And who decides that for everybody?
Lastly, how is ANY of what you wrote more than your chosen beliefs? True only to you or anyone who adopts that subjective position? I cannot see in how your chosen view is "absolute' at all. Other than as your not-so-absolute opinion that it is absolute.
I did ask how you demonstrate the veracity of your claim and you did not do so here. Just repeated the claim in question.
Given the various family arrangements over time and cultures, it seems evident that different scenarios work well for different people groups. There is clearly no one-size-fits all for the entire human population.
What this appears to be is you simply voicing your personal opinions on the general topic. Which you are certainly free to do. But such opinions are evidently not absolute nor universal nor apply to everyone at every time and place.
But I appreciate your reply.
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Michael Hunt
Well said!
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Patricia Ann Gross
SOJ,
Tell that to all the single parents out there successfully raising their children, as well as those in same-sex relationships. Tell that to all the adopted children, and blended families. Tell that to all the children who have been abused by their "natural born" parents, and then come back and let us know if you survived. Perhaps in a "perfect world" you could be right,..... Nah. Not even then.
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James Riggle-Johnson
So, Cornell University is leftest and cannot conduct a truthful study on same-sex parenting? Good to know. If Jesus himself came down and told you same-sex relationships are good, and that they can raise children as healthy as anyone, you'd probably tell him he isn't Jesus.
Your mind is already made up... facts be damned.
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ServantOfJudgement
James, do you think Shawn hannity is capable of say Trump's iran war is bad?
There ya go bud.
Hannity= Cornell=propaganda.
Take the blinders off, you'll love it.
By the by, Jesus said no to homosexuality like he did drunkenness.
The Bible speaks for itself.
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James Riggle-Johnson
You just proved my point. Your mind is made up, even if you have to make things up to make it match.
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Michael Hunt
What does Sean Hannity have to do with Cornell at all? Are you saying that Hannity is propaganda because he won't criticize Trump and Cornell is propaganda because they published a review of 79 studies, the majority of which happen to disagree with your belief? I don't think that makes sense.
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Michael Hunt
Not a "pro homosexual study conducted by a leftist university". Maybe actually read something before you dismiss it.
"We identified 79 scholarly studies that met our criteria for adding to knowledge about the well-being of children with gay or lesbian parents. Of those studies, 75 concluded that children of gay or lesbian parents fare no worse than other children."
That's 75 studies to 4, not 1 "pro homosexual study conducted by a leftist university."
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Patricia Ann Gross
SOJ,
You said, "If we assume all parents are benevolent towards their children, a married couple, that is a Man and a woman, can not be surpassed in its perfection and performance of raising healthy minded children." Unfortunately in today's world a significant number of parents are living vicariously through their children. Parents push kids to play sports, go to dance class, take music lessons, join the scouts or other social functions, and do so without asking what the child wants. Having raised two athletes, I saw it all too often, that many of the teammates were not allowed to "not like" the sport that the parents were shoving down their throats, and would have prefered dance class or music lessons instead. My son has been the head baseball coach for the past 15 years at the school he attended, and still sees it every day. He has three children, each play different sports and two of them are heavy into music, one plays drums for the drum line, and the other plays piano (both are boys), and he couldn't be prouder. When the parents try to bend a child into something they are not "cut out to do," there is going to be some push back, whether the issue is extracurricular activities, boyfriends or girlfriends, or what to have for dinner. If some parents would just listen to their kids, they would find out just how special they really are, even if they haven't followed the life the parent has laid out for them.
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Rev. Kev
I honestly don't care what any group decides to randomly name any month or day or week or whatever.
I understand the idea of recognizing a certain date for some relevant event or accomplishment. Like birthdays or anniversaries or honoring the day when chocolate fudge ice cream was invented. Stuff that matters to a person or group that they celebrate or commemorate in whatever way they choose.
If someone really needs a month recognized for whatever thing matters to them then that's cool. Doesn't bother me as long as no one tries to force me to do something special to celebrate it. Certainly not going to waste time harping about it or trying to do some silly counterattack. It's not like I pay attention to most of the special days and holidays printed on my calendar.
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Brien
Thank you. You are one sane person in a sea of crazy. 😏
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Linda L Noel-Duquesnel
This is ridiculous. When the BLM movement happened, All Lives Matter (mostly white) ppl suddenly wanted their own movement. When Black History month came about, the white sub-groups (Irish, Italian, Polish) suddenly wanted their own month because their history deserved to be heard as well. While not a new movement (Pride month started in 1970), Pride Month has been challenged over the years. Did anyone stop to think that if haters hadn't made this necessary, there would be no Pride Month? There wouldn't be a reason for the LGBTQIA+ to have to put themselves out there. One commenter on here already stated: "If we are to be subjected to Pride month..." There in lies the problem. You wouldn't be "subjected" to someone else's lifestyle if you didn't make such a stink about it. What business is it of anyone's who loves who? If y'all didn't make such a big deal out of that in itself, then there wouldn't be a need for "Nuclear Family" whatever. All the "Nuclear Family" movement is, is a selfish attempt to draw attention away from a movement that needn't have happened if everyone just minded their own houses instead of minding what's going on in their neighbor's houses. A "family" is a group of people who love each other. That doesn't mean it specifically has to be a mother/father/child, all white (or insert color here), or all straight (heterosexual) because a conservative activist or politicians deem it to be right. These conservatives have taken a term, "Nuclear Family," which means: a domestic unit consisting of two parents and their children living in a single household, and grossly twisted it to mean: a heterosexual couple and their children. To add insult to injury, they choose to make June (Pride month) their time of "celebration." On purpose. Why? Because they can't see past their own biases, beliefs, and hatred? There will always be conflicts when one group of people decide that another group of people can't live the way they choose, instead of living the way the first group of people want them to live.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Linda,
I had a similar concern about the definition of "nuclear family" which leaves out grandparents raising grandchildren, multi-generational households, and adopted children. Are these similar abominations?
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William Moses
Nuclear family is just a term that means parent child. The other term is extended family which includes other relatives. There’s no reference to gender or sexuality or anything.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Mr. Moses,
The article says multiple times that a Nuclear Family is mother/father or man/woman (singles) plus their children, signifying a single generation family. It also states that it isn't biblical because most biblical families were both polygamous and multi-generational, as that was the culture of the times. "Nuclear Family" was a 20th-Century invention.
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Michael G Doyle
What would happen if the gays said, we only need a day. Not a month. Like Veterans Day, Memorial Day. Then celebrate June as family month.
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James Riggle-Johnson
If it was just one day do you really think that wouldn't be attacked too? Pride celebrations don't all happen on one day in June. And for the record, Pride celebrations are not celebrating sex. It is a celebration of community. It tells other LGBTQ people they are not alone.
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ServantOfJudgement
Hell will have frozen over Michael.
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Alexander Clarke
Everyone should support the FFRF (Freedom From Religion Foundation) Religion, no matter what brand, has no place in government. You can have faith and belief without religion. Religion was created by man to control. Control what you think, say, do and to separate you from your wealth and to keep women "in their place". Christian Nationalists are as evil as any other brand of religion.
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Harvey Zeller
In a religious sense it's bad faith.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Isn't every month straight pride? Isn't society already structured around celebrating and validating straight relationships?
In all seriousness, I don't really care if a state wants to proclaim June as Straight Pride Month, Nuclear Family Month, or my personal favorite, Fidelity Month. Some of the people writing those proclamations are probably cheating on their spouses while signing them.
People often try to reduce Pride to a celebration of sex. That misunderstanding ignores why Pride celebrations started in the first place.
Pride was born because LGBTQ people were harassed, arrested, beaten, fired, rejected by their families, and pushed into hiding. It gave people a way to find one another, support one another, and survive.
Today, Pride celebrates equality, visibility, and human dignity. But its roots are based on survival.
A community that was told to stay hidden decided it would no longer disappear.
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Rev Hartwell
This. Every single word of this.
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Harvey Zeller
This nuclear family business is such sour grapes. Why don't they give it a rest? And let pride month go as it pleases.
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Amber Fry
How ridiculous. Do straight white guys have to always be shouldering in on everything?? Society in the states on the whole is already geared towards straight white men in particular. Why pitch a fit when anyone else would like to be recognized equally? Society has gone out of it's way to make anyone who might not be within a specific status quo feel less than for it for far too long. What is so wrong with taking that time and learning about people who are different instead of fear mongering or hate mongering? Welcoming a stranger or loving thy neighbor doesn't come with some "unless they are..." clause.
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Bruce Harry Garbett
Categorizing “people” is Divisive
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Mark Gilgen
Just read YOUR BIBLE! It will tell you everything you need to know.
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Rev Hartwell
Which one? Because not all Bibles are created equal. If you’re reading any King James version or one of its derivatives, you are not reading the correct Bible. There are Bibles that have extra verses, there are Bibles that have missing verses, and there are Bibles that change the word pedophile to homosexual when the original Greek specifically meant pedophile. So I’ll ask again… which one?
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David Buck
If we have to be subjected to Pride Month, then by all means, let's have Nuclear Family Month. It needn't be one or the other. Why not both? Or here's a novel idea - why don't you just keep your sexual identity to yourself, because frankly, I don't give a damn.
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Patricia Ann Gross
David,
Who is subjecting you to anything? So you see a few more rainbows and there happens to be a parade. Perhaps your social media accounts have gotten more colorful this month, just keep scrolling. Nobody is subjecting you to anything. Pride month is for the LGBTQIA++ people to celebrate. If you're not one of them or an ally, you're probably not invited, and if you are, you don't have to go. You probably feel "subjected to Black History and Women's History months too. Again. don't go to theparties, and when you see the articles in Social Media, keep on scrolling. You DID click on this blog post though....
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Rev. BH
David Buck - glad you don't, but too many people do.
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Paul Johnson
Religion is nothing more than a deception from the enemy. He divides and conquers while our selfish pride keeps us caught up in his craftiness. He who will not read the word and ask for help in understanding is still in darkness. There is a veil over the word just as it was to the Israelites. The veil can only be lifted when we are not selfish and we truly want to get rid of our selfish pride. There is no other way to enter into the presence of God. Our selfish pride has created religion guided by none other than the enemy himself. What is so hard is for man(humans) to surrender to the fact that they object to do anything God has requested us to do. Just look around and see most if not all of us are caught up in some type of pride, hate, bitterness, religious deception and the big one would be selfishness: but who wants to admit that they are selfish whether it will set us free from the ways of the world. The more we deny self the closer we can get to God. We have to get a grip and realize that God is in charge not us . We get to be here for maybe 100 years how long has God been here from the beginning. He is not a bad God He is a loving God whether we want to believe it are not. Somethings that He expects may seem like he is selfish but He really just wants the best for you and I. Try reding and understanding His word it can and will set you free. It's not works folks it is trust faith and love. Try removing the veil.
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Nicholas J Page
Well it hasn't happened here yet in England. So the question is ask and no offence to any citizens is why does it always happen in America you don't hear about the gay community anywhere else apart from across the pond.
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
ELEMENTARY my deer Watson, seriously that's where it starts the ELEMENTARY school. There are 6 out of 10 blogs on this site about people complaining about the things taught to ELEMENTARY school children this being #1 on the bitch list. And I wouldn't count out "England" too soon all within the 2005 Doctor Who restart and 8 out of 10 BBC programs I've noticed forced gay characters in our face and black lives matter propaganda. Only once I notice a push back on "Thin Blue Line" character calls black guy "African-American" black guy says, "I've never been to Africa and I was born here in London." Every other BBC show talks about the American president like he runs Great Britain, yall really need to get that straightened out, you don't want that clown running your coutry... he can't even run ours.🤪😜
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Reverend Paula Copp
How about everyone leave each other alone? If people can’t get along, stay away from each other. It’s a real shame, since we all have fallen into sin…
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Herbert Moore
Strikes me there is becoming more and more an us or them divide replete with animosity.
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Robert James Ruhnke
That’s never gone away. An the animosity has always been targeting the non straight, white, christian bunch and doing awful things to them.
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Brien
I just don't know what to say here. Can someone explain to me just how this affects anything in the grand scheme of things? Example: "Pride" month has no impact on my life at all. I neither recognize it nor not recognize it. It simply has no meaning at all to me. There are other "celebrations" that also mean nothing to me nor do they affect my life. You're beliefs and recognitions are your own to enjoy. I don't care one bit. If people wish to celebrate, then let them. Pride month needs nobody's approval nor does heterosexual month. Christmas, Easter, 4th of July, labor day, memorial day, none of these need approval either. If you wish to celebrate or not is your choice. I don't get to choose for you and you don't get to choose for me. It is very simple. Oh, last thing, your judgment means nothing to me either as mine should mean nothing to you. Peace ✌️
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Sir Lionheart
Well said, Brien.
Those that are in the “Gay Pride” group should be grateful to heterosexuals for their existence. Thinking about it, perhaps there should be a “Thank A Straight Person” month”. 🤭
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Robert James Ruhnke
Nah, LGBTQ+ people have been making other LGBTQ+ people since before the Bible was rewritten a hundred times. The chances of closeted lgbtq+ people having kids isn’t low, especially with how heavy peer pressure is to make others conform to societal standards, kitten butt.
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Brien
Sorry my friend but this time you missed the point.
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Rev. BH
Sir Lionheart:
OK, thank you.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
SL, I love your responses!
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
Ty Ford only half right. What he says is virtually right out my college Psychology textbook. However it covers more on that subject. The hatred also is formed in a child's mind and personality by the parents/guardians. Even if not intended by actions, words/phrases said without thought, and religious beliefs drilled into their heads. I never thought myself prejudice, however, friends of mine i love like blood family lovingly pointed out to me flaws in those little things I did without knowing I did because of the way I was raised. On, this subject "Nuclear Family" i was raised in the 1970s and 1980s in a nation that term meant One Husband (head slave master), one Wife (head slave), 2.5 kids (house elfs). My mother tried raising us boys to "be equal in marriage as God intended in Genesis". Her Other also believed this, my father's mother believe in wife's place is in the house waiting on her husband. Same husband told us boy, "A wife is just a legal prostitute, you work to put a roof over her head so she'll put out." As the article stated i would have raised, the concept of the "Nuclear Family" is not Scriptural.
This whole issue racks up there with; we have Black ENTERTAINMENT Television why Not White Entertainment Television? Or Hispanic Entertainment Television? Chinese Entertainment Television? The LGBT+ already taken over the major networks so he'll bent to shove they're "lifestyle" down everyone's throats they no longer make actual movies and TV shows with stories behind them. He'll, I've heard interviews with gay and lesbian celebrities they pissed off at the LGBT community taking it too far, becoming the tyrants they claim to oppose. My sister who's lesbian and brother that thinks he's a girl feel this way. There's "being excepted" and being "the bully you claim to hate". These is prime example of the original tyrants lashing back at being slapped in the face by everything they raised to hate. Tolerance goes both ways.
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Paul Johnson
This is why sin is so deceptive it starts in the mind, We think we have a right to do as we dang well please without ever giving it another thought. But I'm not for sure this is the plan that he has laid out for us. You know if you just take the word and read it and try not to be cute in your interpretation we could all learn a thing are two. Proverbs eight clearly state that even a half wit can understand. We are to be a light unto the world not Judge's. I don't think the folks in Sodom faired to well during Lot's time I maybe wrong; but a large portion chose to remain and we never hear anything about them later. Choices have consequences some may come before the Lord and He may say I never knew you, but, but we did this and we did that and He simply says I never knew you. I don't know what they didn't do because they claimed that they did this and had done that. But His response was I never knew you. So it's in His hands and ours.
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
Hebrew: חטּאת חטּאה Transliteration: chaţţâ'âh chaţţâ'th Pronunciation: {khat-taw-aw'} khat-tawth' Definition: "to offend".
Greek: ἁμαρτία Transliteration: hamartia Pronunciation: hâm-ar-tee'-âh Definition: properly abstract "to offend". KJV Usage: sin (174x). Occurs in scriptures: 174 times.
Romans 5:13 For until the law sin [G266] was in the world: but sin [G266] is not imputed when there is no law.
If you insist on using scriptures as a bases against this subject. Right here in scriptures its only a sin if you make it law its forbidden. Most states have abolished "the Sodom laws" not all some still illegal but not enforced. If you don't follow a religion that says it's against the law God says it's fair game, get over it. My psychology professor would say it's not about religion at all but power and control. Having power and control over others to make them do your will. My lesbian sister and late a good friend of mine George Taki said the LGBT community is acting no better forcing their will on ours.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Ty Ford said in his comment ‘ I think that anyone who goes on about how bad gays are is probably experiencing an internal conflict. That conflict is about their own gayness. Because part of them believes that anything gay is bad, they seek comfort in outwardly hating gays,’
Sounds as if you might be a ‘happy’ person yourself.
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Thomas W. Paine
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Robert James Ruhnke
Every day outside of June is hetero pride month. Good gods is it tiring.
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ServantOfJudgement
Not at all. We don't give being straight a single thought all day long. At least I don't. None of my straight associates ever talk about being straight. We don't have meetings or social groups about being straight. There isn't a neighborhood committee for straight guys or gals.
In no way shape or form does anyone I know of ever say anything about anything about being straight.
Only the lgbtq2qia++map talk about sex stuff all the time forever.
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Robert James Ruhnke
Get back under your bridge troll. Map is not acceptable in the community, but republicans do keep child marriage legal. You keep projecting while protecting and promoting actual pedos.
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Jeremy Cameron
I fully believe that it should be between a man and a woman for marriage that is sanctified by God, what the state recognizes isn’t the same. I also believe that anyone that states they need a month for themselves or lifestyle, they are segregating themselves from the rest of society. I can’t support what goes against God and the Word of God, I can love the person but not their decisions. It’s Gods place to judge
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Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox
I can only state that you need to research the medical and scientific information regarding LGBTQIA2S+ human beings.
Do you honestly believe this is a choice? If it is, god has chosen it for them. He is omniscient so he knows all past, present, and future events.
When did you choose to identify with a cisgender lifestyle?
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Robert James Ruhnke
Once again proving there’s no love like Christian hate. Basing your beliefs on lies is why I don’t trust Christians to think rationally when it’s needed.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Jeremy Cameron If you fully believe marriage should be between a man and a woman can you tell us how you define a woman? God has all of us starting life as females.
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ServantOfJudgement
Sex is determined at conception. The genetic roadmap is drawn then. Changing that requires pills, a scalpel and some stitches.
A woman is a lifeform designed to grow another human life form inside a protective barrier. Such a barrier includes the woman herself but also a man close by that has a stake in the human growing inside the woman.
Man+Woman=1
Super easy math.
Be advised, factories can not create the product as designed 100 percent of the time. In our case, were the monkey wrench and the factory.
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Graeme Harvey
If sex is determined at conception all the complainers would be in trouble. It's my understanding that everybody is female until a bit later when the sexes diverge.
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ServantOfJudgement
Nope Graeme, before the cell divides for the first time gender is determined.
There's some wishful thinking with us all being female at the start. If you delve into the science of it without blinders you'll see that claim as an out of context, cherry picked old wives tale.
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Rev Hartwell
Try again. Everything you’re saying is how we used to think about sex. We have since evolved and learned that until the androgen bath we are all female and every once in a while the fetus will not respond correctly to the androgen bath and they come out looking like a different sex than their chromosomes would reveal. There are also other circumstances that would cause someone to feel differently than their outward presentation.
Another thing to consider is that there are not two sexes but three that can be identified physically. Y’all love to forget about intersex people, but they are real. One in 1000 people are born intersex. They are also not all born sterile like we used to think they were. A decent portion of them have body parts that are capable for reproduction. Which direction that goes is determined by the individuals development of their sex organs.
I know it’s difficult to be wrong but all of this information can be looked up and verified. And for you to assume that you have the correct information when multiple people have told you otherwise is called hubris. Get that in check and get educated and you’ll understand why you get pushback every time you talk about this.
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ServantOfJudgement
No need to try again Hartwell. The genetic roadmap begins at conception. Science tells us this.
Your wishful science says, 'I have two legs, a duck has two legs, therefore I am a duck.'
No.
Every embryo starts with structures capable of developing in either direction as the cells divide and the baby grows. Then according to the roadmap drawn at conception, the baby follows its path.
If you torture the data long enough, it'll confess to anything.
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Rev Hartwell
Love and acceptance doesn’t go against God. Love and acceptance is godly. To deny love and acceptance is ungodly. They’re not segregating themselves by the way. They are creating awareness because bigots are gonna bigot. We wouldn’t need pride month if y’all didn’t try to make gay people out to be the enemy. It’s pretty simple. Stop hunting them down and beating/killing them for their sexual orientation and we wouldn’t need pride. I know you think that that’s not happening anymore, but it’s still very much is. There are communities that you can’t be alone walking down the street and looking outwardly gay without being stopped and assaulted. When that stops we won’t need pride. Until then… happy pride y’all!
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ServantOfJudgement
Rev Hartwell,
You love and accept the Map pride crowd into the sex community lgbtq2ia++?
Is it godly or ungodly to accept the Map community?
If you don't accept that sexual preference, you're guilty of what you say I'm guilty of.
The only people I know of that hunts and kills homosexuals are the Palestinians and Islam in general.
I've heard a report that the 2016 pulse night club shooter was gay yet blasted the place anyway. Maybe include the sex community in the crowd thats hunting and killing, just to keep it fair and honest?
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Michael Hunt
"You love and accept the Map pride crowd into the sex community lgbtq2ia++?"
Rev. Hartwell said nothing of the sort. What an awful, straw man argument to make. Not only are you accusing someone of being pro-pedophile, but you continue to falsely link the LGBTQ+ community to Minor Attracted Persons, who are not and have not ever been accepted into the community. Shame on you.
"The only people I know of that hunts and kills homosexuals are the Palestinians and Islam in general."
Tell that to Matthew Shepard.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45968606
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/anti-lgbt-victimization-us/
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Jeremy, you are right and just in this.
Go with God. God is good all the time!
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Rev. BH
Dr. DC "SL, I love your responses!"
Then you certainly know by now that SL does not believe in god. He thus stands opposed to your "Go with God. God is good all the time!"
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Ty Ford
I think that anyone who goes on about how bad gays are is probably experiencing an internal conflict. That conflict is about their own gayness. Because part of them believes that anything gay is bad, they seek comfort in outwardly hating gays, while at the same time, fully realizing that they must hate their own gayness. I think Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, is such a self-hating individual. Tough gig!
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Paul Johnson
What a perfect example of someone wanting attention diverted from them in order to make oneself feel good. If I had a feeling that being gay was okay I would want to state it so that in doing so I would be making myself feel good. The problem with any of us probably is with the word SELF we just can't seem to be able to remove SELF from the scene. With that we are still thinking that we are in control. If any of us feel as though we are in charge then tell me where do you get your next breath from? If you can determine that you are in control then tell the rest of us how to be in control. It seems without God no one is in charge. I guess being the creator gives Him that right.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Paul,
I think there is some of both going on here. While, in a practical sense you are right, I have also see people, both gay and straight, who suffer from severe bouts of self-loathing, not only about their sexuality, but about the course their life is taking as well. God DID make us all as we are, and nothing changes that. Also, God doesn't have to abide by the rules humans have placed on us to control the way we think and act, espcecialy those realted to the social "norms" surrounding sexuality and gender.
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ServantOfJudgement
I know a super straight brother who hates gays because he was raped by one as a child.
TY Ford. What you said is offensive beyond description to the abused.
Stow your superstition buzz.
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I love the way the preacher says, “There’s no better way to say what we know to be right.” Hello, is he saying that God made a mistake? According to the Bible he made us in his image. Is God gay? Bisexual? Does he like to dress in drag? In my opinion, his image is love. Regardless of who that is with. Since God loves us all equally (according to the Bible). You can’t have it both ways. My feeling is that those who are so bent out of shape about what others do in their bedrooms, probably have some deep seated homosexual tendencies that they can’t seem to face. You don’t see LGBTQIA people freaking out because someone loves someone from the other genders. If anything I have found that the LGBTQIA community tend to have a more accepting attitude towards people in general regardless of race, creed, or orientation. I think if more supposed Christians worried about what they are doing or how they are behaving and let the rest of the world do what they do, the world would be a much happier and safer place. It should not matter what anyone else is doing. And if they are trying to hit on you and it isn’t your way, all you have to do is say, Thank you, but I am not interested. Nothing more.