Ancient imagery from Kuntillet Ajrud associated with an inscription mentioning Yahweh and Asherah, raising questions about early Israelite religion.
Ancient imagery from Kuntillet Ajrud, where an inscription mentioning Yahweh and Asherah has sparked scholarly debate.

Joe Rogan was about 14 minutes into his latest Bible lesson when his guest pulled out an unusual gift: a replica of a 2,800-year-old piece of pottery that appeared to suggest the God of the Bible once had a wife.

Rogan was fascinated.

The ancient inscription mentions Yahweh, the God of Israel, alongside a mysterious figure called Asherah. Some scholars believe it offers evidence that early Israelites worshipped a goddess alongside the deity who would eventually become the one God of Judaism and Christianity.

This was hardly the only surprise awaiting Rogan during his October 7 episode with biblical scholar Dan McClellan. Rogan's show is frequently ranked as the most-listened-to podcast across the English-speaking world, a unique platform for Bible Study.

During the conversation, they explored evidence that familiar Bible stories borrowed from older religions, that some New Testament letters weren't written by their supposed authors, and that Christianity's teachings about marriage and hell changed over time.

"I don't think all of it is fiction, but I don't think all of it is literal," Rogan observed.

Millions of listeners tuned in to receive a crash course in biblical history from the former Fear Factor host that might make their Sunday school teachers uncomfortable.

Wait, God Has a Wife?

The pottery was discovered at Kuntillet Ajrud, an archaeological site in the Sinai Peninsula, and dates to approximately 800 BCE. Its inscription invokes Yahweh and "his Asherah." Nearby are drawings of figures that some researchers have associated with ancient deities.

Asherah was a goddess worshipped in the ancient Near East. In Canaanite religion, she was the consort of El, the chief god. As ancient Israelite religion developed, Yahweh came to occupy El's supreme position, and some scholars believe Asherah was worshipped as Yahweh's partner by at least some Israelites.

That sounds pretty incompatible with modern Judaism and Christianity, which teach that God is one and has no divine wife. But ancient Israelite religion wasn't always monotheistic in the way we understand it today.

The Bible repeatedly condemns Israelites for worshipping other gods. In 2 Kings 23, King Josiah orders an image of Asherah removed from the Temple in Jerusalem.

There is a catch: scholars disagree about the inscription. "His Asherah" might refer to a goddess or a sacred object associated with her worship. The drawings may not even represent Yahweh and Asherah.

Did the Bible Borrow Its Stories From Other Religions?

Classical painting depicting Pharaoh's daughter discovering baby Moses in a basket by the river, as described in the Book of Exodus.
The story of baby Moses' rescue parallels an older Mesopotamian legend about Sargon of Akkad.

Rogan was particularly interested in the similarities between biblical narratives and older stories from the ancient world.

Consider Moses. According to Exodus, his mother places him in a waterproof basket on the Nile to save him from Pharaoh's order to kill Hebrew baby boys. Pharaoh's daughter discovers him and raises him in the royal household.

A strikingly similar Mesopotamian legend tells of Sargon of Akkad, a ruler who lived in the third millennium BCE. His mother secretly gives birth, places him in a basket sealed with bitumen, and sends him down a river. He is rescued and eventually becomes king. Sound familiar?

The surviving Sargon birth legend was written down long after the king lived, so the exact relationship between the accounts remains uncertain. But the parallels are difficult to miss.

Then there's Noah's Ark. In Genesis, God sends a devastating flood. Noah builds a boat, saves his family and animals, survives the waters, and offers a sacrifice.

But in the older Mesopotamian Epic of Gilgamesh, a man named Utnapishtim also receives warning of a divine flood, builds a boat, preserves life, survives, and offers a sacrifice. He even sends out birds to see whether the waters have receded. The British Museum preserves ancient clay tablets containing the Mesopotamian story, which circulated long before the Hebrew Bible reached its final form.

To modern readers, these similarities can look suspiciously like plagiarism. But ancient writers routinely adapted familiar stories to express new religious ideas. Biblical authors could have used existing narratives to communicate their own understanding of God.

That doesn't mean biblical authors simply copied the work of other peoples, or that a familiar story has no spiritual meaning. It does complicate the idea that these narratives emerged independently of the cultures surrounding their authors.

Did Paul Really Write All Those Rules About Sex and Marriage?

One might call the Apostle Paul the original manosphere podcaster... after all, he was an unmarried man with very strong opinions and no qualms about sharing them. His letters were partly an exercise in long-distance problem-solving: congregations he had helped establish sent him questions, reports of disputes reached him, and he responded with instructions on everything from worship to marriage. Some of the advice was requested. Other times, he could sound like quite the busybody.

And of course, sex. Paul was hardly a live-and-let-live kind of guy when it came to coitus; he had plenty of opinions about what Christians should and shouldn't do in the bedroom. His writings have influenced Christian teachings about sexuality and gender roles for nearly two thousand years.

But what if some of those instructions weren't actually written by Paul?

Scholars generally accept seven New Testament letters as authentically Pauline. Many believe three others, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, and Titus, were written by later Christians using his name. These are called the Pastoral Epistles because they address church leadership.

In 1 Corinthians 7, which scholars agree Paul wrote, he favors remaining unmarried and celibate, partly because he expects the world to end soon. Why arrange marriages and establish families when Jesus is coming back any minute now?

Paul's sundial may have been running fast...

His guidance presented a problem for later Christians still stranded on Earth. How could they establish families, leadership, and lasting institutions when the end hadn't arrived?

Suddenly, the instructions attributed to Paul began to look rather different.

In 1 Timothy 2, women are instructed not to teach or exercise authority over men. Verse 15 states that a woman will be saved through childbearing, provided she continues in faith and holiness. That's a striking contrast with Paul's preference for celibacy in 1 Corinthians, and with the participation of women mentioned in his undisputed letters. McClellan suggested the shift reflects Christianity's adaptation to the delayed Second Coming.

Traditional Christian scholars dispute the claim that Paul didn't write these letters, but their contested authorship presents an awkward question for those invoking them as timeless rules about marriage and gender. How timeless are rules that may have changed with the circumstances?

Biblical engraving by Gustave Dore depicting the Last Judgment, with souls facing divine judgment.
Gustave Doré's depiction of the Last Judgment.

Did Jesus Really Teach That Everyone Else Goes to Hell?

Rogan also expressed discomfort with the idea that otherwise decent people could suffer eternal punishment simply because they don't believe in Jesus.

McClellan explained that the Bible offers differing ideas about punishment after death: destruction, punishment that some interpret as temporary, and passages traditionally understood to describe eternal suffering. The hell familiar to modern Christians developed through centuries of interpretation.

We've previously explored the surprisingly complicated biblical history of hell, including Sheol, Gehenna, and later Christian understandings of eternal punishment.

For Rogan, the question was simple: what kind of God would condemn someone forever for believing the wrong thing?

Is the Manosphere Ready for This Version of the Bible?

Rogan's interest in scripture arrives as Christianity gains traction among some male-oriented podcasters and online influencers. The controversial podcaster Jordan Peterson interprets biblical stories through psychology and mythology, while others promote Christianity as a defense of traditional masculinity and family hierarchies.

Rogan himself said in 2025 that he'd begun attending church. That January, he hosted Christian apologist Wesley Huff, who defended the Bible's historical reliability. Christianity Today reported that Huff's audience surged afterward, with listeners saying they'd started reading scripture or going to church.

Are young men actually becoming more religious? Gallup found that 42% of American men ages 18 to 29 considered religion very important in 2024–2025, up from 28% in 2022–2023. Monthly religious attendance among young men reached 40%. But Pew's December 2025 research found no clear evidence of a nationwide revival among young adults. And neither survey tells us whether podcasts are sending men into the pews.

Some figures take the connection between Christianity and masculine authority considerably further. In September, Religion News Service reported on a fringe group of Reformed Christian influencers - sometimes called "Theo-bros" promoting patriarchy, antisemitism, and even racial segregation under a religious banner. They aren't representative of Rogan's guests, but they're part of a wider online fight over who gets to define Christian manhood.

Take Arizona pastor Dale Partridge, who preaches what he calls "biblical patriarchy." He argues that husbands should represent their households before God, church, and state, and has called for repealing women's right to vote. Fellow Christian nationalist Joel Webbon has said his wife votes the way he tells her to because she's submissive. Both appeal to a biblical order in which men lead their families. But that's quite a leap from ancient instructions about marriage to deciding that women shouldn't have an independent voice in a modern democracy.

And it's a rather selective reading of scripture. Ephesians 5 tells wives to submit to their husbands, but the preceding verse calls on believers to submit to one another, and the passage instructs husbands to love their wives sacrificially. Meanwhile, in Romans 16, a letter scholars agree Paul actually wrote, he praises Phoebe as a minister and names Junia as prominent among the apostles. Christians disagree about what these passages mean for gender roles today, but they certainly complicate the idea that the Bible provides an unambiguous mandate for male domination.

It is one thing to declare that the Bible says men should lead and women should follow. It is another to discover that the relevant books may have been written by different people, in different centuries, responding to problems their predecessors never imagined.

A podcaster can make a confident claim about what God wants from men and women. A biblical scholar can spend three hours explaining why the evidence isn't so tidy.

If the manosphere is so interested in what the Bible has to say about men and women, is it really searching for divine truth, or just looking for a few convenient verses to tell women what to do?

Podcast host Joe Rogan, whose conversation with biblical scholar Dan McClellan explored the history and interpretation of the Bible.
Joe Rogan and biblical scholar Dan McClellan explored surprising questions about the Bible's history and teachings.

21 comments

  1. Patricia Mitchell's Avatar Patricia Mitchell

    When the manosphere claims “the Bible says men should lead and women should follow,” it’s ignoring how complex those texts really are. Those passages were written by different authors, in different centuries, responding to their own cultural problems — not laying out a timeless rule for modern relationships. A podcaster can make a bold claim in five minutes. A scholar can spend hours showing why the evidence isn’t nearly that simple.

    If the manosphere were truly searching for divine truth, it would embrace that complexity. Instead, it reaches for a few convenient verses — not to uplift anyone, but to control women.

    And that’s the real issue. The question isn’t what the Bible says about men and women. It’s why certain people only quote the parts that keep women small.

  1. Keith D's Avatar Keith D

    REALLY entertaining to read the ... not so much the wannabe funny messages, but the ones trying to be serious.

    Even pretty committed Biblical folks I'm listening to are saying that if the Pentateuch existed, it was ignored until AT LEAST 500 BCE and not really paid much attention to by anyone until sometime between 150 BC and 250 BC. Authorship seems most agreed to have been creative, playing off of Mesopotamian scripts.

    Then we get sixty seconds post-Jesus (and pretty credible folks even challenge his existence, and/or his teachings and/or a cruciifixion--one even sees, with a reasonable prompt from historical findings, Jesus and his followers as assasssins going to Jewish celebrations and taking out Roman officials.

    We appear to have far less respectable and far less reliable reports from adjacent materials regarding Old and New Testament literature. From Jesus' death until Irinaeus and others a couple hundred years later, there is no respectable guesstimate as to how many belief systems tried to line up behind Jesus... Gnostics of many flavors and those who became the proto-orthodox, at least. And the proto-orthodox weren't even all that well in agreement. But we have a fairly decent grip on dates and beliefs out of Mesopotamia.

    Me, I'm kinda Gnostic and really Hermeticist, and interested in 'spiritual technology' from wherever wisdom comes... and Hermeticism holds the law of gender. GENDER, not sex. Something initiates and something builds/manufactures from the origination plan, and that is, respectively, the male and female genders in Hermetic mindset, ... simplified.

    So yeah, how many ways can these conceptions (haha, pun intended) be relatively accurately presented, and still look drastically different when compared thousands of years later?

  1. Matthew Timothy Hawkins's Avatar Matthew Timothy Hawkins

    Yes some Israelites worshiped Asherah, but no, she was never the "wife" of God. She was a false goddess that you can read about in the Book of Jeremiah; the prophet condemns people for worshiping her, called "The Queen of Heaven."

  1. Stella L. Wright's Avatar Stella L. Wright

    God is God, and we really don't have any idea what that is. We have faith that God exists, and we have been told that we were made in His image, but don't really know what that image is. Genders are designed for procreation. What need does God have of a gender?

    Humans designed the images and wrote the rules for religion. Study the 10 Commandments. God commands us to love Him and love each other, but man took those Commandments and wrote the first 660 laws, designed to control the masses.

    God is simple and powerful. If we spend our time loving Him and each other without judgement, we don't need to worry about what anyone else (including Him) is doing.

  1. Jeff Grippe's Avatar Jeff Grippe

    God having a wife implies that like the Greek and Roman gods before them, they had genders.

    As far as the Jesus / Hell connection, it is important to remember that the bible's authors all lived after Jesus. Given how incomplete records were at the time, and given that there were decisions made about which were the canonical texts, that question becomes nearly impossible to answer.

    If I told you what happened 100 years ago using today's technology, the facts and what they mean could still be disputed. Once you remove the kind of details we have available now, it becomes nearly impossible.

    We don't know what Jesus taught. We know what people who lived long after he died say that he taught.

    Given how Christianity evolved into many different sects that don't agree on many basic facts, there is no reason to believe that we know with certainty what Jesus taught. We don't even know if he repudiated Judaism. It is doubtful.

  1. Rev. Kev's Avatar Rev. Kev

    Yep. The god of the Hebrews started out as a deity in the Canaanite pantheon. With a consort. True monotheism never existed until after the Babylonian Exile. The god Christians worship in the modern era is a reimagined pagan deity. Who is quite different even from the Old Testament god. A couple big differences being that OT God wasn't a tri-omni deity and was really ONLY the god of the Jews. The God concept keeps evolving over time.

    1. Lesa Carol Walker's Avatar Lesa Carol Walker

      Yes! Asherah was kept in the temple!

  1. Stephen Jackson Duncan's Avatar Stephen Jackson Duncan

    They didn't get a "crash course in biblical history" from Rogan, like the article suggest. I doubt he's ever read a passage. The lesson came from Dan McClellan, a biblical scholar.

  1. Rosemary West's Avatar Rosemary West

    Don't forget Mrs. Santa Claus!

  1. Roy S. Thorpe's Avatar Roy S. Thorpe

    Man is too self centered and pea brained to understand the concept of spirits and spiritually! Everything is his world has to be like his world! What a bonehead! Mom's and dads! Gays and straights! What a moron! Illiteracy knows no bounds! As Puck said" what fools these mortals be! "

  1. Father Frederick's Avatar Father Frederick

    Most people look at God as being a singular deity, but it's not a stretch to think he may have had a wife. (Caveat: that is if you believe God is man or father figure.) For some, Mother Mary was somewhat on par with Jesus in the spiritual world.

    As always, in Biblical study and education, we lack the physical facts, and have to rely on interpretation and perception of what has been found.

  1. Mckeva Jean Banks-Holmes's Avatar Mckeva Jean Banks-Holmes

    Number one did Elohim have a wife?, Let us make them in our image, male and female. Number two about this picture very funny. Number three, Paul, having his comments about women, women has always been around in the scenes behind the scenes, directing man do I believe that Paul wrote the majority of the New Testament no, I believe it was something else or someone else fire issues how was always on fire and talking about the world ending now he fell. The world was gonna end because he had work to do. He didn’t know how much time he had to do it because he was still going through paying shocked that he changed his life because he was knocked down off of a horse so I believe that Paul could’ve done better but he was so uptight, wondering when he was gonna die if he was gonna die, he bragged a lot about himself even the way he gave grace spoke about it grace so serious issues. He was very sorrowful and again we have to love our neighbor as our ourselves within God there’s not sex and marriage in in heaven, so produce here on earth, but with the confines of marriage truth, I’m going by what I read very interesting but a little complicated but I understood it.

    Yours truly, peace and love Minister Holmes

  1. Stephanie A Willey's Avatar Stephanie A Willey

    I wonder if or how many of us here have read the works of Joseph Campbell or even know who he was. I have, and it's a real eye and mind opener.

  1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

    Of course god had a wife. How else would he have had a son?

    (Actually, I believe the Goddess took a husband.)

  1. Brother Peter's Avatar Brother Peter

    Speak to our Mormon friends. Their theology teaches that God has a wife and they spend their time "begetting" spirit babies.

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      So while God was making spirt babies with Heavenly Mother, God was fooling around with Mary having a bastard baby, Jesus.

  1. Rev. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Rev. Matthew Mastrogiovanni

    If god had a wife, why would she stay with such a misogynist?

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      She probably dumbed him because of the sex. And can you blame her? God didn’t have penis which is why God’s bastard son was born from a virgin.

  1. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

    Is there a possibility, that religious history had repeated itself, and there were separate religious histories that sounded the same, however, they were separate factual stories ?

  1. Sir Lionheart's Avatar Sir Lionheart

    This topic has created so many questions. If God had a wife I wonder if she wore makeup? Did she ever go through menopause? Was their marriage consummated? Was she his first wife? Did they both have parents?

    An even bigger question, did God have nipples, and if so, why? 🤭

    🦁❤️

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      Well we know God doesn’t have a dick which is why his son’s mother was a virgin. And if God had a wife he’s an adulterous God.

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