Is seeing believing? That's just one question sits at the heart of a new lawsuit against Los Angeles County – one that echoes a dispute the county has faced before.
Similar to the case of a Christian lifeguard who sued L.A. County over a Pride flag flying at his beach station, this new lawsuit involves an employee who claims that having to pass a Pride flag outside his office violates his sincerely held religious beliefs. The employee is not being asked to raise the flag, display it, or endorse it. He simply has to walk past it on his way into work.
Is Visibility an Infringement on Personal Beliefs?
The employee in question is Eric Batman, who has worked for the L.A. Department of Public Works since 2003. L.A. County began requiring the Progress Pride flag to fly outside county buildings each June starting in 2023. Batman claims that even seeing the flag forces him to "celebrate, recognize, and solemnize conduct and actions that he views as sin," in conflict with his Christian faith. The lawsuit was filed in March by the anti-LGBTQ+ evangelical legal organization Liberty Counsel.
In both 2024 and 2025, Batman formally requested a religious accommodation allowing him to work remotely for the entire month of June, arguing that being required to work in an office flying the Pride flag violated his rights. Both requests were denied, as were follow-up grievances he filed with the Department of Employee Relations.
The Suggested Solutions
Rather than grant the remote work request, Batman's employer offered two alternatives: use the building's rear entrance to avoid seeing the flag, and seek counseling for any distress the flag might cause.
Batman's legal team argues those suggestions made matters worse. According to the complaint, they implied his religious beliefs required mental health treatment rather than accommodation, and relegated him to a kind of "separate but equal" arrangement. The suggestion to use the rear entrance, they contend, is no different from directing someone to a back door on account of who they are.
Batman Sues
Liberty Counsel frames Batman's request as essentially equivalent to accommodations already granted to Muslim employees at the department who work remotely during Ramadan. If the county can make room for one religious observance, the argument goes, it should make room for another.
The lawsuit alleges violations of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, the Free Exercise and Free Speech clauses of the First Amendment, and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Liberty Counsel chairman Mat Staver stated that the Constitution does not allow a government employer to put citizens in the position of choosing between their conscience and their livelihood.
Worth noting: the lawsuit itself contains no instance in which Batman was required to do anything other than come to work while a flag flew outside. He was not asked to attend a Pride event, wear a symbol, or make any public statement. Liberty Counsel's own fundraising materials went further than the complaint, claiming the county had declared his beliefs a "mental illness" – a characterization the lawsuit does not actually make.
Where Does This Leave Us?
Cases like this one put two sincere commitments in tension: the right of employees to practice their faith without penalty, and the right of public institutions to acknowledge the communities they serve. Neither is trivial. Religious accommodation law under Title VII requires employers to make reasonable adjustments for sincere beliefs – but courts have generally held that passive exposure to a symbol does not constitute compelled participation in what it represents.
This lawsuit sits at a fault line that American law and culture are still working through. The debate over how far religious freedom extends in public institutions has been a recurring one, and cases like Batman's are unlikely to be the last.
What do you think? Does an employee have the right to avoid symbols that conflict with their faith while on the job? Is there a meaningful difference between being asked to raise a flag and simply having to walk past one? And where should employers draw the line between accommodation and exclusion?
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Can we agree that the "batman" is not real?
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James Riggle-Johnson
Firstly, I feel a great deal of sympathy for Mr. Batman. I cannot imagine the extent of teasing he went through during his school years because of that last name.
This isn’t about some silly lawsuit and the supposed rights of one Christian man being offended by a Pride Flag.
Every June, we seem to have the same argument. Some people don't want to see us. No Pride flags. No Pride parades. No public celebrations. No acknowledgment that we are part of every family, every community, and every faith tradition.
What is LGBTQ Pride?
Pride did not begin because of the AIDS crisis. It began because LGBTQ people wanted the same freedom, dignity, and recognition as everyone else. But during the 1980s and 1990s, Pride became something more. As thousands of people died from AIDS, many were treated as though their lives didn't matter. Families were torn apart, partners were ignored, and an entire community was often met with silence, judgment, or indifference.
When society pretended we didn't exist, our suffering became easier to ignore—and thousands paid the price. Pride became a way of saying, "We are here. We matter. We will not be ignored." We were not going back into the shadows, and we aren't going back now. That is why a rallying cry that emerged during that era still resonates today: "We're here, we're queer, get used to it."
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
I was floored to read this. Does this guy (I'm assuming) have nothing to do?
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Rosemary West
In the real world, we all are going to see things we don't like. That's just a fact of life. It's ridiculous to demand that the world hide or eliminate everything you dislike.
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Cam Kirmser
I don't know about LA, but this could be considered a political display and, when I worked for Dallas, it would have been banned.
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Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk
What are you going to do when an atheist walks past a church and sues because of emotional distress from having to see a cross?
Other people have free speech too. You don't have to like what they say, but you have to put up with it. Part of that is religious symbols and gay rights flags.
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Cam Kirmser
Oh, probably laugh at him.
Now, care to explain just how your irrelevant comment addresses what I posted?
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Captjerry Tomas
GET A LIFE AND QUIT PASSING JUDGMENT
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Damn right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ari Joseph Bertine
Ooh, if he wins, I am gonna sue every place I've ever been forced to sit through a Christian prayer, and then I'll go after the federal buildings displaying the Ten Commandments for making me have to see them! What a fun precedent this could set! Lots of potential lawsuits riding on this one, they could be creating a real cash cow until they realize what they did and quickly reverse it.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
oh dear God.....
people please flush the toilets....its really starting to stink!.. ;')
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Brandon Anderson
I’m pretty sure the bible says love thy neighbor, not celebrate their sins.
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Stuart Michael Murphy
It also says a good bit about judgment.
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Roy S. Thorpe
As the level of intelligence and acceptance sinks slowly into the sea of ignorance, let us remember the words of that child poet who said neener,neener, neener! Another addition to the Karens and Kens of this word! We are raising a nation of spoiled children!
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Mark B. Trexler
When I was young and going to school I saw many cars pass by our bus stop with statue of Mary inside cars on their dash board going by. Today, I see statues of the angel Moroni on top of the Steeple on Mormon Church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints). I don't agree with the angel Moroni but that is the Mormon belief. There is a lot of things I don't agree with but as a Minister, my job is to lead people to Jesus Christ. If I make a scene about what I agree or disagree with, people wouldn't listen to me.
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Jacob Casack
I'm tired of all the LGBTQIA2 whatever+ bullcrap! But, that being said, I don't think Batman has a case. He could use the rear entrance. It seems to me that he just wanted a month off work. I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of religion, which is what our American forefathers established. I don't mind seeing a rainbow flag, but I am completely against them promoting gay and trans ideology on our children in elementary schools and teaching them to change their genders. Even our fellow church leaders in the Satanism communities wouldn't come up with something so evil and perverse. Batman doesn't have a case, but he's leaning in the right direction.
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Steven Ferrell
There should only be two or at most 3 Flags in any government building.
The US Flag, the State flag and if a city has a flag, that on their buildings.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Amen!!
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Ronaldo
Exodus 20:4 clearly states that we are not to create "any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath", and implies worship of such images. In spite of this clear instruction, I see Catholics praying to statues and images of Christ and Mary often. Should I be offended by this? Should I be able to sue any church that displays any of these items where they can be seen from public grounds? What about Nativity scenes? They are graven images of things now in Heaven.
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Geoffrey C. Olive
Praying to statues, idols and images of Jesus, Mary, Angels, Saints, etc shows the hypocrisy of Christianity not following what ir claims to be the words of god in the Ten Commandments! Even Jesus on the cross is an idol!
“idol /īd′l/
noun An image used as an object of worship. A false god. One that is adored, often blindly or excessively.”
No doubt Christians will twist that!
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Sorry but you need to understand the difference between "praying to" vs "veneration" in asking them to bring an issue to God.
pray ˈprā verb prayed; praying; prays entreat, implore pray be careful to get or bring by praying to make a request in a humble manner
to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving
Definition and Distinction from Worship In Catholic teaching, veneration means giving honor, respect, or reverence to someone or something because of their holiness or exemplary life, without equating it to the worship reserved for God alone (latria) Aleteia Aleteia +1 . Worship, in contrast, involves adoration and is directed solely to God GotQuestions.org GotQuestions.org . Veneration acknowledges the spiritual significance of saints, angels, or sacred objects, and often includes gestures such as bowing, kneeling, or kissing relics, but it is not considered idol worship
its easy to confuse the two from non-religious observations.
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William M Buzanoski
Both sides of this controversy share the same Human and Constitutional rights! Each affected party needs to realize the importance of, and the need to respect the other sides rights! That is the basis of Liberty, Freedom and the wish of our Founding Fathers! Not to mention most Religions! Heaven Help Us All!
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Rev. B.D. Rees
WOW!! Another Evangelical "Kim Davis" has surfaced because a peice of cloth has ruined his sensabilities, let me shed a tear for this MORON!!
As an American I should probably pass this off as another "Crazy" trying to get in the news. As a Gay man I am enraged by this man's Hatred, Bigotry, and discrimination against people he doesn't even care one wit about!! Mabey I should start a court case wanting to take down all the crosses on churches because they offend me when I have to pass them on the street!! SAME DIFFERENCE!
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Mrknowitall
He should rip it off the wall. I work for Disney and when it happened to me that's exactly what I did....It was never replaced and they knew who did it !!!
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
you are ok to "feel that" but please don't advocate violence, property damage ore similar. You're better than this!
Dr. D
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
First since Batman likes suing people he should have starred with DC Comics over his family name being used. As to the other issue in question, he's about as "Christian" as Donald Duck. (Pre-Lgbt+ Disney). "Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's, and give unto God what is God's. " He works for Ceasar therefore he owes Ceasar his work time at where Ceasar tells him to work. If Ceasars work area offends him then he should quit working for Ceasar. This reminds me of the 1980s "Satanic Panic" the hypocrite "Christian" churches burning music records/Tapes albums claiming satanic groups casting spells to steal children's souls. Yet, those same so-called christian churches will not allow convicted felons who have repented through their doors. What ever happened to that country I was raised as child "Melting pot" "embrace everyone's various cultures" Saturday morning PSA cartoons promoting the wonders of this excepting nation of ours. This guy Batman working there since 2003 and the policy stated in 2023 three years ago why didn't he raise the problem three-years ago. Don't give me that back door crap in the article as politicians use the back door often to avoid offensive journalist.
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Reverend Paula Copp
Here’s an idea… if you don’t like the LGBT+ community, leave them alone. Don’t approve of gay marriage? Don’t marry a gay person. Don’t approve of Pride Month? Don’t celebrate. In all areas, if you can’t be nice, don’t say anything.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
that's not it, if it were, it would be simple.
they keep shoving their agendas, flags, changes in the work place, painted crosswalks and so on in our face demanding us to accept it else they will sue, strike, or worse destroy our property and assault us.
If they would just act like a human being there would be no issues with them being gay or trans or what ever they wish to be!
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Robert James Ruhnke
That’s not true, man of many degrees. We are simply trying exist and reich wing Christians push their views on us. In many cases killing us or wanting to kill us in the name of their god. Defending one’s self is not assault. You’re projecting what Christians have been doing to us since before society decided to tolerate LGBTQ+. It’s gross what you’re doing.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Robert,
I disagree.
In the Dallas area, we've seen demonstrations that shut down traffic for hours, acts of vandalism against public and private property, and assaults committed by individuals claiming to be acting in defense of various causes. These are not inventions or exaggerations; many of these incidents are matters of public record.
What I find interesting is that when members of a group engage in violence against members of that same group—as was recently reported in an aggravated assault involving patrons at the Tin Room—it undermines the narrative that all criticism comes from outsiders or opponents. Sometimes the problems originate within the community itself.
You and I clearly view these issues differently. That's fine. Reasonable people can look at the same facts and reach different conclusions. What is less productive is dismissing opposing viewpoints without addressing the substance of the argument.
My own view is simple: people should be free to live their lives as they choose, provided they extend the same respect to others, obey the law, and refrain from violence, intimidation, and property destruction.
On a separate note, what is your fixation with name-calling? Is a respectful discussion beyond your capability?
My name is Dennis, or Dr. D. Repeatedly referring to me as "man of many doctorates" is not clever; it is simply disrespectful. If you expect civility from others, you should be willing to extend it yourself.
As for this comment, perhaps it will be deleted as well. That seems to be the fate of comments that challenge the prevailing narrative. If so, that says more about the state of the discussion than it does about me.
Dr. D
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
good Shakespeare reference!
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Father Frederick
One can rationalize a country flag, or state flag, but the flag situation has become a symbol not of pride, (as is Ol' Glory), but a forced, in your face support for an action or party.
A good example of this was what happened in our town where a pride flag was set up, to the objections of people not into the pride movement. Then a BLM flag appeared, then a Trump flag, then a small groups independence flag, a militant group flag, and finally something which to this day I have no idea what it stood for.
The elephant in the room is not who you support, but the fact that your pride often encroaches on those who don't share the same feeling. It's like the Presbyterians setting up flags for their faith outside a Baptist church. In their mind they are "taking pride" in their faith, while the Baptists see it as an encroachment on their faith. It becomes the age old challenge of "I don't care what your party and celebration is about, but keep it in YOUR yard and not violate my space."
A simpler example; you have a family who loves heavy metal rock and a family next door who likes country music. Who has the right to play their music loud enough that the neighbor gets tired of the noise. And when it becomes competition by turning up the amplifiers to drown out the other, who has more moral conviction?
I get it that one might be proud of their organization, but where is the line between your pride and happiness and another's contempt and misery.
And why is in the wrong when they foist their flag on others, especially when they know it may offend.
As you can read in this thread, there has been many unkind replies from people wanting their will, their flag to be foisted on others. And I find it uncanny that in some cases a connection is made to Jesus, when I believe Jesus would become angry over the "competition" and probably solve the problem by saying neither can fly their flag.
As for me, I have one flag. The stars and stripes. And when I play my music (60s/70s rock), I do so at low volume where its not mandatory that someone must listen to my choice of music. Yes, be proud of yourself, but don't force your will, flags, symbols, and speech on others in an aggressive fashion. Once you do so, you lost your moral superiority and become an attacker.
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Robert James Ruhnke
You’re doing that with the Stars and Stripes. You’re forcing your will on others, something America has done since its beginning. Go figure.
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Rev'd Andrew
That appears to be a false equivalence. The National and/or State flags are appropriate flags to be flown outside National and/or State buildings. No other flag needs to be flown, since those flags represent the population as a whole.
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Robert James Ruhnke
Telling me I can only fly one flag is not false equivalency, uber Americana worshipers can kiss my rear.
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Nicholas J Page
Why not walk past it and ignore it Your making a mountain out of a molehill
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Why is it Christians are always the ones wasting the court's time and filing lawsuits over their over their religions beliefs?
This is just pure hatred and goes against the teachings of Jesus and the word of God. Where does it say in the Bible "sue your neighbor"? "Love thy neighbor as thyself" is the second greatest commandment according to Jesus".
Why are Christians so unChristian? And Christians wonder why so many people are leaving the Christian religion and young people want nothing to do with it.
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Stephanie A Willey
Batman, me thinks thou doest protest too much ...
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Rex Alan Ebnit
Why is "batman" attacking the first amendment rights of a co-worker, or anyone for that matter. Sounds personal. More like batman doesn't like the person.
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Michael Burton
Flag day is June 14th, not the 26th
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Robert James Ruhnke
Christians being offended by pride is so dumb of them. They base their beliefs on lies and politics, not anything truly divine or inspirational. This man proves just how fragile modern Christians have become. Constantly shoving their beliefs where they don’t belong.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Don't lump us all in the same boat. these are people that might be Christian
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Robert James Ruhnke
I was being specific, for a man who claims to have many degrees, you can’t read very well. Though perhaps being exactly specific couldn’t hurt. Right wing Christian nationalists are the problem.
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Colleen McAllister
Sounds like someone wants to stir up trouble and grab attention for themselves. Especially since he has done it before. The presence of the rainbow flag on the building has no bearing on Batman's job or daily life. All this lawsuit does os waste everyone's time.
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James Richard Munro
The LBTQT+ flag should NOT be flying on public buildings period. Flying a flag is like saying, you approve, tolerate, or promote that particular group that the flag represents. The rainbow flag is offensive to many people. I for one, find it offensive. Just my opinion. Before someone says it, no, I don't hate the alphabet people. Paster Jim
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Robert James Ruhnke
But you do. You fall under the “There's no hate like Christian love," category. You find our existence offensive lol. So much so that you voted for people who won’t leave us alone.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@James Richard Munro YOU say find the flag offensive which implies you hate "alphabet" people. But then you say you don't hate "alphabet" people. But then you demonstrate your hatred by using the slur words, "alphabet people". You are clearly showing your bigotry and hatred. And you call yourself a Pastor? Sorry dude, but you fail to follow the teaching of Jesus and the word of God.
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Jeffrey Mark Felton
You may have to tolerate. Just like YOU and YOUR beliefs must be tolerated. But, by NO MEANS do you have to agree, support, approve, condone or sanction ANYTHING that offends your sensibilities.
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Robert James Ruhnke
That’s the problem, yall don’t tolerate us either. You’re voting for people who will do the job of exterminating LGBTQ+ existences from life. Cause you’re too much of a coward to do it yourself.
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James Richard Munro
I will never understand why they call it a pride flag. No, it's a sexual pervert flag. The LBGTQ people will say that you eighter love them or you hate them. Poore baby. If I hung a communist flag in a public place, I wonder what the reaction would be? OH No, everybody hates me. Poore baby.
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Robert James Ruhnke
I know some homophobic communists too, your attempts to upset me are infantile and silly. There’s nothing perverted about being LGBTQ, though some gays are indeed adult seeking adults perverts. Why are you constantly thinking perverted thoughts about lgbtq+ people?
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ServantOfJudgement
Yep, national flag and state flag only. Any other flag, fly it at home.
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Geoffrey C. Olive
Is Batman suing because of his relationship with Robin?
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
ROTFLMAO
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Jeffrey Mark Felton
The GLARING difference between being offered an alternative entrance into a public building and being LEGALLY FORCED to use the back door (as has been the case in America’s not so distant past) is CHOICE. He was OFFERED a CHOICE. The gentleman has every freedom to do whatever is needful to ease his duress - so long as it does not impinge on anyone else’s freedom of expression. Respect and tolerance does not require or imply support, agreement or condonation of anything that violates personal beliefs and convictions.
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Echo
Do other flags violate religious freedom? Does the American flag violate religious freedom? Seems just a bit too far fetched of a legal argument. Would be interesting to see if people wearing other faith religious symbols or celebrating births from families out of wedlock are also such an afront to them they need to be excused from working.
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Evone L Payton Banks (Minister/Rev non denominational)
My response to this is to show you're not prejudice you should have kept walking past. I flag that has nothing to do with your faith in God nor your sexuality should bother you amen. So don't target people based on their sexuality because what in essence you ARE provoking is law suit.
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Stewart
As a Paramedic working for a county M I C U and trained as a APT-LS ATLS and in ACLS . I was REQUIRED to attend Public school athletic events that occurred WHEN ON DUTY... This exposed me to public prayers pledges of allegiance and other disgusting to me religious event's I would rather not see and or hear several times a week .
Knowing that the students might need advance PHTLS interventions at anytime supressed my personal beliefs in order to do my job . I did this for 8 of the 12 years I work in fire/ems .
The patients right to the best care was miles beyond south Texas bull cocoa it doesn't harm me for them to try an force everyone to follow seems to me the only ones violating rights are thw whinny ass crybabies throwing fits over otrhers wanting their rights to be honored ...
As Jefferson said what matters it whether my neighbor worships 1 gods or may it neither takes food from my table nor money from my pocket .
MY RIGHTS ENDS WHERE THE NEXT GUYS START IF YOU DISLIKE IT IGNORE IT .
no where dose it say you can't be punched in the face by exercising your rights by the next guy doing the same with his right to disagree with you .
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ServantOfJudgement
That's how renee good got herself shot. She got so close to the edge of her rights she couldn't see the line under her feet.
We herd her tough guy girlfriend tell her to drive, hit the fuzz and got punched in the face.
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Peter Richard Anderson
Get back under your bridge.
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Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk
Your reply is untrue. Rene Good was firmly within her rights and following a legal order by an officer to drive away. The officer that tried to place himself in front of her car was never in any danger. It was murder, pure and simple.
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ServantOfJudgement
Watch the video with your eyes open and the volume turned up Cyril.
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Michael Hunt
I have watched the video from multiple angles and Cyril is correct.
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
This first I hear of it so I looked into it. From. The cut and past from last news article on the subject. (The encounter, which was captured on cellphone videos, showed Good’s partner — who was outside the SUV — calling Ross “big boy” and telling him to show his face. Other officers at the scene could be heard telling Good to get out of the car, and she could be seen turning the steering wheel away from Ross and beginning to drive.
Multiple gunshots could be heard before Good’s SUV crashed into a parked vehicle. On a video recorded by Ross, a male voice could be heard saying “f-----g bitch” moments before the crash“We believe the evidence we are gathering and will continue to gather in our investigation will suffice to prove our case,” lead attorney Antonio M. Romanucci said in the statement. “The video evidence depicting the events of January 7, 2026, is clear, particularly when viewed through the standards of reasonable policing and totality of circumstances.)
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Sir Lionheart
It really is crazy, isn’t it?
However, having said that, there are some people, who I wont mention here because I don't want to upset the liberal left 🤭, that don’t like walking past anything that displays Old Glory, or even TRUMP MAGA flags.
As an FYI, Flag Day is June 26, and I’m looking forward to our 250 year celebration where we can all celebrate and fly our nations flag 🇺🇸 and bunting with real pride in our hearts.
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Robert James Ruhnke
Did you know that being a condescending jerk is still being rude and inconsiderate. The mask you wear as being honorable is thin and poorly shaped. Your sense of humility pride is as pale as your skin.
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Sir Lionheart
Did I by any chance say something that you don’t agree with?
I bet you are secretly quite excited at celebrating our nations 250th birthday where you can proudly fly the flag, and to show our wonderful country is finally being made great again. Exciting times….right?
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Robert James Ruhnke
lol nice bait. I don’t give a flying fig about flag day or this dying empire. Im excited about its end. Empires only have a life or 250 years or so. Humanity will survive without it and good riddance. Our country is in the toilet thanks to those who are like Trump who selling us out for their own gain. And people like you in deep denial over it are too blame. It’s a fun irony.
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Sir Lionheart
PS: USDA Sec. Brooke Rollins just announced that "We found 200,000 dead people getting food stamps, and 500,000 getting more than one benefit... The fraud is stunning”
This is only in the RED states. BLUE states are suing the USDA and refuse to submit their data like the red states have, so the USDA is going to suspend any payments to those states until they have provided the data as to who is receiving benefits. What have they to hide? If they have nothing to hide, one would naturally assume everything is above board…..right?
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Sir Lionheart
The Roman Empire lasted 900 years, so there's a way to go yet. 🤭
I have experience of living under Democrat rule here in California. They have absolutely no idea what they’re doing, and have slowly run it into the ground what used to be a beautiful state. In many areas, it’s a hell hole, crime is rampant here in LA, much like it is in Chicago, and we have the highest gas prices in the Nation. My vehicle registration is $474. In Texas it would be $72, Places have burned to the ground and they didn’t know how to deal with it. Their ability to manage is non-existent. I hear San-Francisco is just as bad, if not worse. But hey-ho, not to worry, we are looking after illegal aliens really well with our tax dollars, while homeless vets, and those that are drug addicted camp out on Skid Row in their thousands.
If you are excited about its end, come to Los Angele’s, or San Francisco and experience what “end” really looks like under Democrat rule.
I’d rather be an American 🇺🇸 than a Democrat.
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Rev Ned
In Illinois, as a disabled VN veteran, type 2 diabetes from Agent Orange exposure, car plates are $0/year. Maybe you should move there?!? I’d rather be a Democrat than a MAGA supporter. Get a red letter Bible and read Jesus words!
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Sir Lionheart
I do appreciate your comments, Ned, and thank you for your service, but with the greatest of respect, I do hope you understand you have been totally misled by the socialists, just like you have also been misled to believe that the words in a red letter Bible are words of Jesus.
No one knows what Jesus ever said, assuming he was real of course, because everything you are reading in any bible about what you “think” Jesus said was written by historians that never met him because they they were born after the death of Jesus.
Interestingly, the historians that we know of that did live during the time of Jesus never wrote about him. Don’t you find that to be weird?
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
Interesting you say that George Washington said, "I give this new empire 250 years before the people rebel again from the new king you insist on making me." It only took 15 years before the ten Admendment writter James Madison went before Congress said, "There is other a shadow of right for the government to dictate where religious morals exist. The government has no place to dictate whom or what a man marries." Then I 1861 rebellion over taxes again not slavery that wasn't an issue until last year of the war. This year is 250th year birthday and the powder keg is waiting for the match.
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Allen W. Sanderson
Washington never said that, or anything close to it. Several different web searches, & your post is the only reference that comes up.
Now, that said, I tend to agree with the message... The US is a baby country compared to the rest of the world. We're celebrating 250 years, when most of Europe, Asia, & Africa have existed for thousands. We've had one Revolutionary war to gain our independence. & We've had one Civil War. Most other countries have had dozens if not hundreds.
As far as the whole rainbow thing, what ever man... Just keep drag queens out of the classrooms, and kids out of pride parades.
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
I know this is hard to except but there is are these wonderful things called books. They are made of paper and have history, science, and math and many other things written in them. Not all are put on the internet and google don't have all the things Yahoo does are other search engines. But my information coming out a 1984 American History text book from my High School. Since they've been rewriting history to suit there agenda not surprising no one knows true history.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
oh screw you...
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Robert James Ruhnke
Ew no. You’re not my type.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
lol!!!
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Michael Burton
Flag Day is June 4th, not the 26, some patriot you are
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Sir Lionheart
Haha, some patriots we both are, Michael…..it’s June 14th…..not the 4th. 🤭
It’s also World blood donor day, national bourbon day, national Strawberry shortcake day, and abused women and children’s awareness day.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
I love your responses SLH.
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I want to open the topic of "what is a sin?" here. Religion can be something very helpful for people, but it can also be difficult throuh conservative beliefs and the fact what people made out of it over centuries. Wouldn't it be the best for all to reframe things and get rid of the lable "sin" for the actions which are meant here? LGBTQ+ People just want to be themselves and not being seen as sinner for that and taking away this lable would also make it easier to accept their existence for straight/cis people which are in doubt about loving everyone.