UFO chatter continues to circulate thanks to the Pentagon’s recently released report. Are they satellites? Experimental aircraft? Or maybe, just maybe, visitors from beyond the moon?
Well... none of the above according to one pastor. In his latest sermon, Pastor Jack Hibbs of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in California said that he believes all of the documented UFO activity, dating back to the Roswell incident in 1947, is real. But it’s not aliens.
It’s demons.
Unidentified Demonic Objects
“I don’t believe in aliens. I don’t believe in little green men flying around. I don’t believe in spaceships,” he recently told his congregation. “I believe in all of the stuff that’s gone on regarding aliens… if something crashed in Roswell, it’s of demonic origin.”
“I don’t believe in visitors from other planets,” he concluded. “I believe in visitors from Hell. They’re called demons.”
While it is a niche position in both evangelical circles and UFOlogy circles, the idea that UFOs are demonic entities isn’t unheard of. Pentagon whistleblower Luis Elizondo says this belief – that they are of demonic origin – is even held by some high-ranking national security officials.
Elizondo, former head of the Pentagon’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program from 2010 to 2017, says that “some individuals have a problem with [UFOs] because it interferes with their philosophical or maybe theological belief system,” even recalling a time when one senior official told him to stop investigating UFOs and instead pick up his Bible, saying that “you [should] know that these things are demonic and we should not be pursuing them.”
Where Are They From?
While it might be tempting to write the hypothesis off, is it possible he’s onto something here? The Pentagon’s much-anticipated report on UFOs to Congress came to no hard conclusions on UFOs other than they are indeed unidentified, flying, and objects. Is it such a leap to believe that these forces might not be extraterrestrial in origin, but demonic? Especially if there are senior officials in the Pentagon who believe the very same?
What do you think is responsible for the wave of recent UFO sightings?
40 comments
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Edward Taylor
No extraterrestrials are not demonic. There are Millions and billions of planets out there in space, so they would be from another planet. Their are possibly different alien races, but just because some or most would look hideous or like the so called grey aliens doesnt mean they are demonic. But anyway scientist have not found alien life yet but I think they are getting close. Their those in the field of ufo investigations/Ufology that believe that the Gods and Goddesses that our ancient primitive worshipped down to today are extraterrestrialsanother words our ancestors mistook extraterrestrials as gods because of the advance techology.
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Jeff Carrell
First of all.... All the pictures that we see on the Internet of Earth, the Planets, the Solar System and the Universe are CGI Computer Generated Images because we only believe in what we are told because we have no way of knowing the truth. God says that he has the key to the Bottomless Pit in the Earth. God says that HELL is in the Earth. So instead of life beyond out planet why could we not have life in HELL in our Earth. Remember, We do not know what is beyond our Earth's Core. We have never dug down that deep. We have never ventured out into space. We have models that are computer generated but nothing more. Even texts from before the Bible talks about a race deep inside the Earth. So I am thinking that Demons are just a race of beings that fell from the stars and live deep inside the Earth. Demons meaning beings that fell from Grace.
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Rev. Howard Slayton
What do Evangelicals know? They would be the last people I listened to on any topic. And those guys at the Pentagon are probably in cahoots with the evangelicals. These people are nuts and know nothing about religion. Trust me.
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Takaya Kovani Sweeney
Here we go…yet again with some of these scary, controlling, fragile azz white men.
ANYTHING different is demonic…give us a fg break with this already.
I don’t believe in it but if there are aliens or whatever, give them bleeping chance first before condemning them out of fear and IMMEDIATELY trying to kill them INSTEAD of learning.
Good Grief! Talk about NOT learning from your own history AT ALL!
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Angel
No,completely different species...
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Beth
UFOs are Unidentified Flying Objects. They are just that - unidentified - until and unless they are identified. They can be anything from a mirage to an hallucination to a radar echo to a meteorite to a hail stone to a foreign aircraft to an alien space ship.Jumping from "unidentified" to "alien" is a huge leap.
Of note, if we confirm alien space ships and visitation, they will then be identified as such, and will no longer be UFOs.
I too, believe that it's very likely that with the octillion or so stars in the universe, many with planets, that there is life outside our world. Some of them could host intelligent life, and if it's even possible to get through "the great filter" - where we have the technology to destroy ourselves/each other and somehow refrain from using that weapons technology, they would still have the problem of distance - we're about 4 light years from our nearest neighbor - traveling 100s of light years to explore would create a number of issues which we can only solve through science fiction, including how to transmit their findings back to the home planet. Although SETI has existed for several decades, we have not, as yet, detected any intelligent signals.
It's a big jump from "life on other planets many light years away" to "there's demons out there and they're visiting us".
If someone wanted to make contact with life on this planet, someone with advanced enough technology to do that would find an objective way to do that - whether they wanted to kill us, enslave us, mine our planet for resources, colonize us. At the same time, if they've got an additional billion years of technology, would they view human civilizations of any more consequence than we consider the individual members of an ant hill in our lawn?
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Mark Hannon
So if I play with an Ouija board a spaceship will drop off a demon in my back yard?
I am setting up a camera right after I finish typing this up!
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James Riggle-Johnson
Of course... anything that is not understood or unidentified is evil, demonic, not good. Only humans would think we are the end all/be all in the eyes of our creator. If God did create the heavens and the earth (in that order) then we were not the first of His/Her creations. And what in the hell would reading the bible do in understanding aliens?
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Ilmenheru Terikson
So what is the confusion here? Those beings called Devils are actually Luciferians, and from an alternate dimension not too foreign from our own. Demons are from another dimension entirely and are basically more like parasites trying to feed upon our psychic energy. Just as the Elohim or shining people. Lucie and Elo are pretty advanced tech wise, and as the old saying goes any tech you cant produce yourself is magic to you.
Then we have so many different E.T. on Earth or so they say, from the Gray which apparently have 2 or more factions, one of which is aided by the Sasquatch and Yeti, the other more aligned with the reptilians who want to enslave or eradicate us. And lets not even get into the MIB or the race that is actually known as the Gardyhi. Some think they may actually be humans from the far end of time here to study or manipulate much like in the show The Travellers on Netflix. or the old show Fringe, but if so, why they are here is up in the air.
Needless to say our world seems very important, its almost like heliocentric thinking based on old archaic ideas has never really gone away just taken on new flavors of cray cray.
Our world is but a mote of dust catching the eye on a string of light. We are about as special in the eye of existence as a speck on one of those motes.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
To the contrary, in my opinion, as well as many others, everything in existence is important in the mind of The All. Finite minds cannot grasp, or even begin to comprehend infinite mind. Yet humankind continues to guess, instead of simply accept that infinite mind, The All, the ultimate unknowable deity, the creator of all, or whatever it is called, is totally unknowable. However, we do know that the universe is mental. As we experience in life, nothing can be created without thought. And, "As above so below."
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Ilmenheru Terikson
Carl I thought you knew better then to push insular rhetoric. You are free to think there is some infinite all knowing being, but to suggest or try to push that idea on others as some cosmic truth makes you actual evil. As far as I am concerned you and those who think there is a being as you want to believe in are no longer valid ministers here and no long have any standing.
You basically attack any and every minister with your post that does not believe as you believe. If that was your goal, to be no better then the likes of the christian evangelicals then good job.
Understand if you want to think there is something like that fine, but to even suggest it exists or should matter to anyone but yourself is against what the ULC is all about.
You among others attack those who practice all forms of non deity based worship. You and all like you need to grasp that your fantasy sky daddy is just that your fantasy, and to suggest otherwise a statement that can be taken as an attack and if said in person would allow someone to invoke stand their ground laws against you do to several mass shooters who started by asking people if they accepted or believed in a god. The moment you say something like the above, someone in the U.S. can literally kill you were you stand legally and say they felt based on your rhetoric a violent zealot was about to attack them.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
All I can say is I've got more faith in The X-FILES than the bible. I've got the first six seasons on DVD, and this week I watched one of my favorite episodes two nights in a row: The Ghosts Who Stole Christmas, guest starring Ed Asner and Lilly Tomlin, as the 👻 s. I'm through using all my bible pages for rolling papers, so I guess I'll get another, and start rolling again. I didn't know anyone really reads that trash, and believes it. I can see how those fools could confuse 👽 with demons. Believing that crap will make anyone confused.
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Ilmenheru Terikson
you may as well believe it to, you seem to also think there is some fantasy sky daddy creator being.
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John D. Partin
I have asked you this before, but why do you single out the Bible for your hatred and ridicule and for using as rolling papers when there are books that have caused a Hell of a lot more death, misery, and trouble in the world than the Bible? Such as Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto, and Das Kapital. So-called "Christians" and the Inquisitors and ancient Israelites didn't kill as many people as Nazis and Communists have, since they didn't have their weapons, armies, and technology. And those books didn't have to be twisted and misinterpreted, as the Bible has been, but only followed exactly, to make them cause all of that death and misery. So, the next time that you want rolling papers, tear pages out of Mein Kampf or these other books and roll those up and have a good toke, and help get rid of these books in the world and do something good for a change!!
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Douglas Stephen Saldivar
John, IF people who imagine the BOOK is to be taken literally had the weapons and armies that as you rightly say the Nazi's and "Communists" had, don't you think that their >1000 years of slaughter would be at least as bad as Nazi's and Russian and Chinese "Communists? In my understanding intolerance and greed (for power, money, racial purity etc) is the greatest sin. People of the BOOK have proven just as intolerant as other greedy true believers in history.
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John D. Partin
And, as I said, Bible readers had to twist and distort the Bible and put evil things into it to make it "support" the crimes they committed, whereas readers of and believers in Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto only had to follow them exactly to commit their crimes. Any crimes committed by "Christians" were committed DESPITE what the Bible taught and commanded about loving our neighbors as ourselves and doing unto others as we would have others do unto us, while all the crimes committed by Nazis and Communists happened BECAUSE they were exactly following their philosophy. What book is more evil: the book that has to be twisted to "support" evil or the book that just has to be followed exactly to support evil. Evil imaginations could make any book "support" evil, even a cookbook, much less the Bible (as Hannibal Lector made cookbooks "support" his cannibalism). So, what if the Inquisitors had been able to figure out how to make poison gas and invent machine guns and modern means of warfare and amass armies is just more argument against uncontrolled and ungodly imagination, instead of subjecting all thinking to the love of God and man.
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Nicholas J Page
Of course aliens exist.Why should we be the only living souls on our huge planet .And all the other planets out there.Im 63 and for as long as I can remember aliens are here to visit or stay.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
How can something that is not identified be demonic? That's military intelligence for you.
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
Long before I became a ULC minister, then a bishop with a DD, the story (making the rounds about what UFO’s are) was that they were diaphragms being dropped by nuns, after they died, and who dropped them on their way to Heaven.
And, until today, this observation has never been disproved.
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Donald J Rothschild Jr
Now that is funny.😂
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William Diaz
They, aliens and demons, do have something in common. They are both "unidentified".
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Rev Mark D
No, they're what Douglas Adams once called "teasers."
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
They might also be Estes model rockets.
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Maximillian Martin
Hell no they're not!!! Anyone who thinks that we're the only life form in the universe is suffering from severe stupidity and extreme arrogance!!!
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Dr. Samuel D Goldman, Ph.D. D.D.
Rabbi Samuel Goldman
I'll let you know as soon as one walks into my office and sits down and shares a scotch with me.
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Herbert Moore
Flying demons from Hell. This suggests Hell is an actual place, and has a location. If so, and given the demon theory's acceptance by military leaders (how could that not be proof?) perhaps now that the military is through with Vietnam and Afghanistan they might try Hell.
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Beth
I've heard combat veterans say that "War is Hell". Perhaps this is evidence to the truth of that statement?
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Linda weeks
While I really just want to say”Omg, are people really that desperate to demonize everything in order to rationalize religious beliefs?”, but I know that, yes, they are. In a different mindset, wouldn’t it completely turn their mindset on its ear if demons were actually technologically enabled rebel agents seeking to rescue their rebel leader from an alternate dimension dungeon that he was kept in, so they could overthrow the oppressive fundamentalist overlords and free the people.
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Maximillian Martin
Hell no they're not!!! It's just another civilization from another part of the universe. Anyone who thinks that we're the only life form in existence in the universe is just too damn arrogant for words!!!
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
There might even be aliens living right here on planet Earth among us, who look and sound like the rest of us. Some may have been here for numerous generations, and don't know their ancestors weren't from here. I've known a lot of people who didn't seem like they were from this planet. Many of them shop at Walmart.
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Beth
Do you really think the people you find in Walmart who don't seem to have a good grounding in reality would have the advanced science and technology to build and use an intergalactic space ship? :D
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Angel
yes, I worked several years at Walmart and no, I'm not from here...but then again...who really is? I mean seriously, you really think modern day humans co-habitated with dino? It goes aginst all the laws of physics. There were 5 species ofbeings when the Annunaki showed up, which btw,aren't fallen angels. So whos to say other racs of beings didn't migrate here before then? I seriously doubt that anyone is actually from here if you go back to the beginning of life on this planet...And don't Christians believe that live in this worl but not from it???
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Chad Karka
Actually, it's just as arrogant to claim that these things are from another civilization in the universe when you yourself have zero proof for your own claim.
Besides, one might say it's ignorant to assume that if someone believes that this phenomenon is demonic in nature, that they somehow also deny the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe.
A major ASSumption!
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Douglas Stephen Saldivar
I think they are most likely time travelers. That's one good reason why they do not want to reveal themselves. Time travel would probably be just as technologically difficult as interstellar faster-than-light travel.
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Daniel Gray
Nope. They are just unidentified flying objects like the foo fighters during WW2.
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Lyndy Borden
lol
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Daniel Gray
Laugh all you want, but if you have proof of them being operated by aliens, the provide it.
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Lyndy Borden
I was laughing at your comment, relax, jeez.
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Daniel Gray
No you were trying to laugh at me and got ripped for soing so, just like you have been in at least 7 other threads where you spoke first and then tried to spin afterword.
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Had a long comment done only to realize I needed a membership first. Sheesh. Ok this one much shorter: 1) UAPs/UFOs are from the Prince of the power if the air, God’s foe, Satan 2) they have their purpose to confuse and frighten and take the collective mind away from God 3) secondary purpose: the way the world will explain the disappearance of millions of people but they won’t be with the UAPs… 4) third purpose: after #2, be fully seen on earth to wage war and misery on those LEFT BEHIND. Last point: you don’t want to be on earth after #3. Prayers for understanding.