Stylized depiction of Peter Thiel in front of cross
Does Peter  Thiel know who the Antichrist is? Photo via Gage Skidmore.

The identity of the Antichrist, the biblical figure said to bring about the end of the world before the return of Jesus, has long fascinated Christians and religious theorists alike.

Now, after millennia of speculation, billionaire tech mogul Peter Thiel thinks he has an idea of who – or what – the Antichrist will look like, and he’s bringing his theories to a series of sold-out talks in San Francisco.

Is the Antichrist among us, and does Peter Thiel know its name?

The Origins of the Antichrist

In the Bible, the Antichrist is portrayed as a deceiving figure who rises to power in the end times, opposing God and persecuting the faithful. The term itself appears explicitly in the letters of John, where it refers both to a singular apocalyptic figure and a general anti-Christian spirit already at work in the world (1 John 2:18, 2 John 1:7).

Elsewhere in scripture, the figure is described in related terms: Paul writes of the “man of lawlessness” who exalts himself above God in 2 Thessalonians 2, while Revelation depicts a beastly ruler empowered by Satan to deceive nations and wage war on the saints (Revelation 13).

Collectively, these passages build the biblical profile of a final adversary who will mislead many before Christ’s return.

In popular culture, the Antichrist has become a symbol of ultimate evil, with cinematic portrayals in the 60s and 70s blending biblical prophecy with modern fears. Horror films like The Omen and Rosemary's Baby imagine him as a child destined to destroy the world, while innumerable thrillers and novels depict him as a smooth-talking politician or global leader ushering in tyranny under the guise of peace.

Through Hollywood blockbusters to airport paperbacks, the Antichrist eventually became less a fixed biblical figure and more a cultural canvas to project society’s anxieties about whom, or what, might be steering humanity toward destruction.

Who is Peter Thiel?

Before we get into Thiel’s theories of the Antichrist, it’s important to know his background. Peter Thiel is one of the world’s wealthiest men, a billionaire who made his fortune with savvy early bets on Silicon Valley juggernauts like PayPal and Facebook. He’s also become a major political kingmaker, bankrolling Vice President JD Vance’s rise to national prominence.

Thiel is well known for his early investments in future tech giants, but his most controversial investment was in Palantir, a data analytics firm he cofounded in 2003. Since then, Palantir’s technology has been deployed across the federal government, powering mass surveillance for agencies including ICE, the NSA, and even the Department of Defense (err... War?).

The Identity of the Antichrist

Thiel has long had a totally-normal obsession with the Antichrist, and is now bringing his theories to wealthy tech figures in a series of sold out, closed-door events.

The first of the four talks took place earlier this month, and though details on Thiel’s lecture are under wraps, his past comments on the subject may offer insight into what the talks will entail. In a previous New York Times interview, Thiel suggested that “the way the Antichrist would take over the world is, you talk about Armageddon nonstop. You talk about existential risk nonstop.”

In other words, Thiel believes the Antichrist won’t necessarily be a charismatic politician, as Christians have long speculated. Instead, he imagines the figure emerging as an activist who weaponizes humanity’s fear of existential threats – from climate change to nuclear war to runaway AI – to consolidate power, usher in a global surveillance state, and impose a one-world government.

At one point, Thiel even floated climate activist Greta Thunberg as a possible candidate.

Protesters, Satanists Flock to Event

The first San Francisco event was met with dozens of protesters who oppose Thiel's worldview. Some critics even accuse Thiel himself of being the shadowy biblical figure.

One protest sign outside the event read “They get rich, we get surveillance, abductions, & genocide,” bearing an image of a smirking Thiel holding a suitcase full of cash.

Many detractors point out the irony in Thiel, a chief architect of tools widely used by the government to track citizens, suggesting the Antichrist would help usher in a global surveillance state.

Adding to the spectacle, a troupe of Satanists showed up dressed in black, clutching Anton LaVey’s Satanic Bible, with inverted crosses painted on their foreheads. Playing the part with tongue firmly in cheek, they mockingly hailed Thiel as their messiah.

“We’ve been looking for a messiah to bring in the end times,” said one woman identified only as "Satan’s Babygirl". “We believe Peter Thiel is the Antichrist we’re looking for.” Protesters held signs with slogans like “Embrace Darkness, Hail Thiel” and “The End is Near, Palantir is the Path, Thiel Leads the Way.”

Meanwhile, others poked fun at the implications of Thiel being a harbinger for the end of the world:

What Comes Next?

Details of Thiel’s lecture remain murky, though leaked chatter suggests his message tracks closely with his earlier comments: a cunning, magnetic figure exploiting apocalyptic crises to centralize power, enforce surveillance, and rule over a one-world order.

But who that figure might ultimately be (and whether it exists at all) is still up for debate.

What is your interpretation of the Antichrist? Is this a real figure, or simply a biblical tale some choose to believe? Could the Antichrist already be among us?

64 comments

  1. Robert Berry's Avatar Robert Berry

    Anyone who pretends to represent or follow the teachings of Jesus Christ is a de facto anti-Christ. You can't claim that you're a Christian and abide by the tenets of Jesus. Nothing was in code or cloaked in mystery. Some are very difficult to obey but we are required to do so as practicing Christians. At least we should be and accountability may come as being very difficult when we meet up yonder. You can't hate your neighbor and express disdain for illegal immigrants and refuse to forgive and still call yourself a practicing Christian with any integrity. We might all be the anti-Christ?

  1. Shawn David Spencer's Avatar Shawn David Spencer

    I have explained this before but I shall tell you again of what to look for when it comes to the Antichrist. If any of you have stood before God and know his overwhelming presence, that divinity of both terrible wrath but loving infinite mercy at the same time, the roaring voice that speaks from all around you but comforts you at the same time. Now imagine that presence contained within a mortal man and you would have an idea of what it was like to stand in the presence of Jesus Now take and completely flip that in reverse, instead you would have a presence that defiles blessings, the faithful would cringe as he passes by, angels would immediately take up sword and proclaim, "unholy one, foul spirit get thee back from me!" Now take that presence and contain it within a mortal form and that is what the Antichrist will is and what to look for.

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      Thank you, Sir for telling us what you like to believe is true, even though there is still no demonstrable evidence any of the worlds gods that mankind has created are real.

      I wonder if Jesus was real? 🤭

      🦁❤️

      1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

        Lionheart, yes he was. Are you?

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          Oh wonderful! I wonder why there is a school of thought that stories about him, his mom, and his Dad, whoever that really was, are saying real demonstrable evidence is lacking?

          If he was real, and as a connoisseur of wine, it would be nice to know if the wine that he miraculously is supposed to have conjured up was just a weak table wine, or was it a tasty bold Merlot, Syrah, or some other varietal. I doubt it was aged, but who knows, by all accounts he was very clever with those type of things. 🤷

          🦁❤️

          1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

            Lionheart, you always start off fairly promisingly, then end up (second paragraph) thinking your "humor" will distract us from your simple lack of research. Google "historical Jesus" and read. Easy! Then, please offer your opposing school of thought. Many of us would love to read it.

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              I’m not a huge fan of Google, but here you can read a Wiki article on the historicity of Jesus.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

              🦁❤️

              1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

                Got it. The man existed, the myths accumulated. Like thousands of other documented figures. Thanks for the big surprise.

              2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Yep! It’s a bit like the the stories of Moses and Abraham where there is still no real evidence that either of them existed, even though it’s possible they did.

                🦁❤️

  1. Patricia Sydney Solis's Avatar Patricia Sydney Solis

    The anti-christ.... sure... for the superstitious. But just look at the facts that Thiel is out to destroy America and the public: Major tech investors like Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund pulled money out early of SVC Sillicon Valley Bank, triggering a panic that led to the second-largest bank failure in US history! Investors got bailed out at taxpayer expense. Some insiders warned portfolio companies before the public even knew what was happening. This raises questions about, Insider information, coordinated bank run pressure and possible market manipulation. Thiel may be the anti-christ, but for sure we know he's not human. Just a cold, mammon-worshipping machine. Remember, psychological manipulation is all about hide in plain site. It was the Nazi's biggest playbook. Projection works miracles on those who cannot face their shadows and allow themselves to be manipulated.

    1. Patrick Wayne Ulrey's Avatar Patrick Wayne Ulrey

      You have lost you mind, seek help.

  1. Hadmels Rafmil De Frias's Avatar Hadmels Rafmil De Frias

    Good morning,

    In all honesty, I do see in Donald J. Trump many of the marks Scripture associates with the Antichrist—one who exalts himself, walks in lawlessness, bears a wound, and presents himself as a kind of “savior.” At the same time, we must be careful not to let personal feelings or dislikes lead us to point fingers too quickly, as history shows how easily power and influence can corrupt many.

    I am reminded of the words attributed to St. Benedict: “When the end of times comes, and it will come, I will be found sweeping the yard as always.” His wisdom reminds us that we have no control over the hour or the unfolding of God’s plan. What we do have is the call to remain steadfast in faith, to persevere in prayer, and to continue loving others as Christ has loved us.

  1. Alexander Clarke's Avatar Alexander Clarke

    The Antichrist is whomever you think it is.

  1. Rachel Brink's Avatar Rachel Brink

    If there is an anti-Christ, I have a couple of names in mind. I think that is probably obvious. But what I do know is it sure isn't Greta.

  1. Joe R Day's Avatar Joe R Day

    "Who/What is the Anti-Christ?" I asked AI this question and was not disappointed.

    "The Anti-Christ is a figure in Christian eschatology who is prophesied to oppose Jesus Christ and falsely present themselves as a savior before the Second Coming. This entity is often seen as the ultimate enemy of Christ, representing all that is hostile to God. The term can also refer to anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, making it both a theological and spiritual concept. In broader interpretations, the Anti-Christ is viewed as a coming world leader who will aggressively oppose Christ while attempting to pass himself off as Christ."

    When will the AC reveal himself? "The Antichrist is believed to reveal himself during the last 3½ years of the Tribulation, according to biblical interpretations. Many Christians believe they will not witness this rise to power due to the rapture, which occurs before the Tribulation begins. The Antichrist may initially present himself as a savior, making a covenant to protect Israel, which marks the beginning of his influence. However, the exact timing of his revelation is subject to various interpretations and beliefs within different theological frameworks."

    What is the Tribulation? "The tribulation is a term often used in Christian theology to refer to a seven-year period during the end times when God will exercise His judgment on humanity. This period is characterized by severe trials, suffering, and divine judgments, culminating in the Great Tribulation, which is described in various biblical passages, including Matthew 24:21 and Revelation 11:14-16. It is believed that during this time, the church will be removed from the earth through the rapture, and God will bring about the final judgment of the unbelieving world. The tribulation is seen as a time of distress unmatched in human history, serving to warn mankind of God's imminent judgment."

    Now that we have that cleared up... Let us move on to the WHEN will this happen? "The Tribulation is believed to begin immediately following the Rapture." So, when we see humans being taken up to heaven? That's when it all starts. I shall keep a sharp eye on the sky, so that when the Rapture happens? I will be ready.

    As far as the AC and who it is? No one on earth qualifies, so stop stressing over something that your religion tells you but has NOT happened yet lol. There are plenty of other things to be worried about. The price of groceries and gasoline, rent and housing costs, education and who gets it, hourly wages for teachers and laborers... There are so many things in the NOW, that worrying about religious misdirection and demons in dolls is just nonsensical...

    "When Jesus said to "love your neighbor as yourself," he emphasized a radical inclusivity that extends beyond family and friends to all members of the community, including enemies, as illustrated in the Parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37). This command is rooted in the Old Testament, specifically in Leviticus 19:18, which instructs not to hate one's brother and to love one's neighbor as oneself. Jesus highlighted that this command, along with loving God, forms the foundation of all the Law and the Prophets, indicating its profound significance in Christian teachings."

  1. Kevin Venteicher's Avatar Kevin Venteicher

    evil is always lurking from what i was taught one never knows anymore when someone is gonna attack or hurt or worst anymore someone or group of individuals there are many wars to date many beliefs and non beliefs is it come to the conclusion that there are others always wanting what others have and are willing o take it dating back to beginning the strongest always held the most by force and by giving

  1. Keith D's Avatar Keith D

    Peter Thiel, of 'tech cheats to pretend unity and to rule it, ' is more anti- than christ.

    While it seems scripturally clear that Antichrist is both an attitude or movement and a person who personifies the movement--just as Jesus personified The Chist--Thiel may well look a lot like the individual, as he creates ways to unify the people under the power of all that destroys free will. ... 4th Amendment violations, 'mandates,' etc.

    Define 'The Christ,' and everything that opposes and/or attempts to supplant it can be identified.

    So far, globalists pursuing globalfeudalism seem a fine example, and Thiel is RIGHT THERE. So is Schwab, 'King' Charles (whom I call Chuckie), the heads of supranationalist corporations, the organizations that serve as 'the tent' under which these operate (CFR, Round Table, 500, WEF, UN, Black Rock, State Street, Vanguard, Blackstone, ... ) ...and all who wittingly or unwittingly support their efforts.

    If it undermines free will, it's probably affiliated with the Antichrist. Free will does not mean escape from accountability, accountability as in obligation to:

    --perform on contracts legitimately entered

    --to represent things truthfully

    --and to deal in good faith

    ...these are Christic obligations, and what seeks to undermine that--wittingly or unwittingly (care to see your own behavior is also an obligation)--is to serve the principle and the person of the Antichrist.

    So instead of standing around, pointing fingers at everyone else, take heed what 'Christ' actually means, and what ends up undermining it. Clear it from yourself, and you will see to stand away from its temptations.

    Thiel. Bleah. Surveillance and all that supports it and its purposes of control. Globalism, yep. Thunberg, yup. Climate catastrophizing: yup. Industry feeding us poisons and 'treating' us with poisons: yup. WEF, WHO, UN and the hedge funds 'pursuing culture' (like Goebbels) and 'health': yup. Cultural Marxism: yup, whether done by 'Left' or 'Right'!

    Stand for Liberty, or you may just be ... yup...

    1. Cheryl Pettijohn's Avatar Cheryl Pettijohn

      I would not be surprised if Peter Thiel were the anti-christ.

  1. Religion as a Weapon is Wrong's Avatar Religion as a Weapon is Wrong

    Watch the movie "Tomorrow Land" and pay attention to the character "Governor Nix." The character started out as a billionaire that wanted to use tech to improve the world. When it didn't work out as he planned, he limited who could be part of Tomorrow Land and used subliminal messages to make the real world turn against itself and cause total destruction. He also was seeking not just longevity but immortality for himself. He gives a speech near the end of the movie that has a lot of truth to it, while at the same time is the ranting of a madman that wants to control the life and death of humanity. The movie is about 10 years old and it has all the hallmarks of Disney silliness, but it has a message that audiences and movie critics alike missed. If you found this article on this website interesting, do yourself a favor and watch Tomorrow Land. If you watched it in the past, watch it again because there is a message in there worth debating. Peace and Health to All.

  1. Rosalyn Eliana Moreno's Avatar Rosalyn Eliana Moreno

    The evil comes from the internet of things. Well the medical internet of things actually. They can now tap in to our every thing. Try searching the IEEE. Hard to find unless you know exactly what your looking for. This is technology via smart city n your phone is a conductor for this information. Your digital twin. Do a foia for your data sets from geo spatial intelligence. Evil... all cut out, right in front of us.

  1. Rev. Donut's Avatar Rev. Donut

    Are you the Anti-Christ? Or, are you the Christ?

    Do right. Or, do wrong.

    It's all in your head.

    Hence, free will.

  1. Estrella Alvarez Tinch's Avatar Estrella Alvarez Tinch

    The antichist is not a person. It is a sentiment, a way of life and actions that are contrary to the teachings of Christ. Just as the antichrist was already present during biblical times, it is present today. It exists in the heart of every human being that hurts or hates another.

  1. Douglas Schickinger's Avatar Douglas Schickinger

    George Soros

  1. Ellen Fox's Avatar Ellen Fox

    Anti-Christ = Ai. He’s part of building it. “The God Machine” by Martin Caidin.

  1. Cyndi Everetts's Avatar Cyndi Everetts

    Oh goody! Another extremist vomiting bizarre ideas! We absolutely needed this since Musk has dropped into the white background noise.

    This nutjob is sewing hate and division from his plush appointments earned off the backs of hardworking Americans. We ARE doomed! Ever noticed who comes up with everything that causes the streets to riot???? It’s not garbage men, insurance agents, or the girls at Dairy Queen counter….its these idiotic billionaires that think they’ve got the tiger by the tail.

  1. Lion on the Beach's Avatar Lion on the Beach

    Any conference or talk for an admission price in S.F is not relevant.

  1. Angela Caroline Allanby's Avatar Angela Caroline Allanby

    Maybe... if Christ is pure Source love then anti-christ is anything and everything that separates us from that. And so then there is really nothing to fear because we have the power of free choice to choose love.

  1. Rev Ned's Avatar Rev Ned

    The Antichrist is in DC, living in government housing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, at taxpayer expense.

    1. Keith David Harry's Avatar Keith David Harry

      Thank you Hakeem Jeffries.

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    Christians are saying it's the "End of the World" today once again. And just like in the past there will be "End of the World" day after parties.

  1. Richard Veerman's Avatar Richard Veerman

    I don't have a problem with the man's belief system. I am also getting tired of the God reference all over the place. I believe that God is a creation of man, not the other way around. Guess I'm more of a Diest or agnostic a t best. Respect people's belief system no matter what they believe and just live our lives to be a good "do right thing" individual however you define "right".

    1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      Some people think it's doing right to kill other people Richard. That thinking ends with rail cars rolling into gas chambers and people getting assassinated for their greater good.

      Moral truth comes from somewhere science can't reach and man's heart hates.

      1. Richard Veerman's Avatar Richard Veerman

        One man’s moral truth is another person’s nonsense. Just stop this dogmatic thought process and learn to live from within instead of what you have been indoctrinated with.

  1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

    Big money in end of times prophecy.

    What would it even matter if everyone knew who THE Antichrist is/was/will be?

    If the Bible is true and accurate, there's nothing anyone could do about it no matter what. The people will be fooled even if they know they're being fooled, like Satanists who don't worship Satan.

    If this guy Thiel actually believed the Bible, he'd be singing a different tune right about now.

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    Folks should learn more about Peter Thiel. He like Elon Musk and other Silicon Valley are part of what's been called the PayPal Mafia billionaires who has been supporting Trump and pushing the Christian agenda of segregation and destroying America's educations system.

    Thiel like Elon and many other members of the Silicon Valley Mafia billionaires they grew-up in South Africa during the time of apartheid. Thiel was raised in the South African German community, Swakopmund which was known at the time for its continued glorification of Nazism just.

  1. James Riggle-Johnson's Avatar James Riggle-Johnson

    Peter Thiel, speaking about revealing the anti-Christ during a sold-out talk in San Francisco, is ironic. Even more amusing is his suggestion that Greta Thunberg could be a candidate. The irony of him warning about mass surveillance while making billions selling the technology that enables it isn’t lost on anyone. The protestors at these talks might be onto something — if anyone fits the bill, it’s him.

    As for me, I’m not sure the Antichrist is real. I don’t believe the Bible was written or inspired by God; too often it’s been used to control and scare people. And in the end, whether the Antichrist exists or not, history shows us that religion used as a weapon has caused far more damage than any one person ever could.

    1. Patricia Ann Gross's Avatar Patricia Ann Gross

      James,

      I believe you are right about one thing. I also believe that the book of Revelations was either poetry or written in code. If so, the translators really didn't get much right. It was written in Patmos by John (not the same author as the Gospel) who was exiled there. It was the last book canonized and the debate over it contentious because of the fierce imagery. Being from that part of Asia Minor, the ancient Greek it was written in could have been a dialect that was translated in a more literal sense. Nevertheless, if I had a nickel for every time someone predicted "the end times are here" or coming soon, I would be a wealthy woman. The apostle Paul was convinced he would still be alive when Jesus returned, and those "it's around the corner" prophecies haven't stopped since.

      1. James Riggle-Johnson's Avatar James Riggle-Johnson

        Couldn't agree more.

      2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        Also, as I’ve pointed out before, the Isle of Patmos was, and still is, very well known for its shrooms. Someone, possibly John, was very high when he penned those lines that few really understands, but have woven their own didactic reasoning. 🤭

        🦁❤️

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    Is it time for the end of the world again?

    1. Keith David Harry's Avatar Keith David Harry

      Is it Al Stewart singing Nostradamus again?!?!

  1. Robert Gagnon's Avatar Robert Gagnon

    I really can't believe no one mentioned the great Pumpkin. Who's son in law lives in building 666. Has a massive Christian following but can't recite a single bible verse. Persecutes the innocent, praises evil, survived a wound to the head in public etc, etc. Maybe taking the bible literally is not the best source, I always imagined the antichrist would be a genius. Never occurred to me it doesn't take a genius to effective, just greed, hate, and popularity.

    1. Donald G Magel's Avatar Donald G Magel

      But, but, but, he is the chosen one o the christian right. They elected him to undo all of the woke stuff that Jesus Christ came to earth to model and direct us to follow in caring for others, especially others who are in need. I'm believing that this is not in the Trump bible.

      1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

        The woke sure does love to pack their little god into a nice little woke box don't they? Jesus The Christ is diametrically opposed to lawlessness, anarchy and folly.

        The woke mob burns cities and car dealerships, passes men as women and demands the country not enforce its laws to keep it's citizens safe.

        That's anarchy, not Christ like and not biblically supported behavior.

        1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

          From the time period of 1975-2025 it's been members of the right who have committed more murders in acts of political terrorism in the USA than any other demographic when you exclude the 9/11 attack by Islamic extremists from the data (not because it doesn't matter but because the data point is an outlier that skews the data.)

          https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

          1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

            Interesting read Michael. Seems like a fairly non biased study. Much appreciated. Understandable about 9/11 for the most part. Pretty big and lengthy operation to go unnoticed by cia, FBI and whoever else runs the control panel. May have been a political hit on us little folk.

            However, we still don't plop Jesus The Christ into any political ideological box such as woke or conservative or anything. Because man exists in all political parties, murderers naturally will also. There's a strong urge for people to create a Jesus in their image whether it be woke, libertarian, conservative or whatever. All one must do is read the Bible and he'd see mighty quickly the only political affiliation Jesus has is Godly Righteousness.

            Again, thank you for the link.

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              Here is a rebuttal to Michael Hunt’s comment referring to the biassed CATO institute.

              https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2018/10/never-trust-the-cato-institute

              🦁❤️

              1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

                That is a fair criticism of the CATO Institute and one I generally agree with. The article you provided seems to be speaking more to their economic policies than social, where they do tend to have more "left-wing" ideas as Libertarians.

                I decided to research a bit more and it appears that a number of studies agree with their conclusion. Here are two such papers:

                https://ccjls.scholasticahq.com/article/26973-far-left-versus-far-right-fatal-violence-an-empirical-assessment-of-the-prevalence-of-ideologically-motivated-homicides-in-the-united-states

                https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/the-rise-of-political-violence-in-the-united-states/

              2. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

                Thanks for that Lionheart. A nice data filled critique of cato.

                These are the things I noticed Cato did not include but should: The number of instances, not just death toll. I would like total injuries from political violence included. I want to know the total number of failed plots of political violence. We should see total property destruction from political violence.

                Only after gathering all of these datasets can the actual unbiased picture be seen.

                For example: A regular criminal George Floyd was killed by cops and the country burned for months in response. A law abiding Christian Charlie Kirk was killed by a leftist and a prayer vigil was held in response.

                That's a hard fact that can't be ignored.

                Thank you Lionheart for prodding me to look deeper into the Cato institute.

              3. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

                Here's a study that appears to address your concern. It looks at terrorist attacks and plots instead of simply homicides.

                https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-terrorism-and-political-violence-united-states-what-data-tells-us#h2-definitions

                Your example and desire to include property destruction and compare it on seemingly equal footing as homicide does is fallacious.

                First, property destruction is not an equal crime to murder. Property can be repaired, people can't be resurrected.

                Second, you're comparing the murder of a person by a state actor, who is not judge, jury, and executioner in our legal system, regardless of Floyd's criminality, to the assassination of a political commentator carried out by a clearly disturbed individual, whatever his ideology is. The response to Floyd's death wasn't just because of that incident but of a long and well-documented trend of police officers using brutality and killing Black Americans at a higher rate than other races. You can't compare the riots against a continuing trend of state actors killing citizens to the prayer vigil for an individual actor in a singular incident.

              4. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Lots of interesting data in this post thread. Thank you.

                I don't know what the population is of black Americans versus white Americans, and I know people will see this as a racist remark/comment, but sadly, young black Americans seem to have become a people most likely to commit crimes. Charlie Kirk attributed that to a higher proportion of single black mothers, which is an interesting thought process. What are your thoughts on that philosophy?

                I do agree that there is definitely a need for better training of our police officers. Too many of them seem to be controlled by their own ego that can so easily lead to police brutality.

                🦁❤️

              5. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

                You are correct that Black Americans do account for more crime in our country but blaming it on single Black mothers is unfair and not rooted in data. In fact, poverty is the largest indicator of crime rate, and Black Americans have the lowest median income rate of all races in the USA.

                Here's some data to support my claims:

                https://bjs.ojp.gov/document/cv22.pdf

                https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/

                https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-unequal-burden-of-crime-and-incarceration-on-americas-poor/

                https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2024/09/household-income-race-hispanic.html

                Ultimately, it seems that lowering poverty rates should lead to reduced crime but I haven't searched for a specific study on that topic yet.

  1. CB Cuff's Avatar CB Cuff

    Beings on other planets must find us humans very entertaining.

  1. Bishop William Dusenberry, DD's Avatar Bishop William Dusenberry, DD

    In my SHP (Secular Humanist Pantheist) denomination, of the Universal Life Church) for which I came out of retirement, to become a full-time missionary- we know that the author of “The Antichrist” (Fredrick Nietzsche), is the antichrist, who personified the antichrist via Zarathustra. Those who realized that the supernatural God had died, because the scientific method had killed the supernatural God, and were known to have acquired the Zarathustra Complex. Ergo, science killed the supernatural God; and now with God dead, there’s no more need for an antichrist, Thanks be to Nature, due to the advent of science.

    1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      As it turned out, one year after Nietzsche wrote the book The Antichrist, a harsh judgement against Christianity, he suffered a total mental breakdown and was rendered insane.

      Odd isn't it? Not really though once one's eyes have been opened.

      A man places himself above God the Creator and is reduced to a bumbling lunatic with not a wit of reason left. I guess if he had any marbles left in the end, he'd know God is most definitely living.

      This can be found in the Bible. King Nebuchadnezzar and Nietzsche both found out the hard way the same way, God will not be mocked. They both were reduced to idiots.

      Interesting and faith reaffirming.

      1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

        Correlation is not causation. There are more reasonable causes for his mental illness than, "he was smote by God." That's just absurd.

      2. Rachel Brink's Avatar Rachel Brink

        I believe Nietzsche developed vascular dementia from lifelong health problems...most likely a heart condition. I wouldn't exactly describe that as insanity, idiocy, bumbling lunacy, or the wrath of God. Actually, I wouldn't even refer to a diagnosed mental illness as any of those things. I also don't believe God has a problem with questioning and exploration. Not everyone's path to God is the same, nor is everyone's concept of her.

        1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

          No, a heart condition isn't insanity but claiming you're the Christ is. Today we believe he may have had syphilis or a neurological disorder.

          Your right about my God. He doesn't mind questioning or exploring at all. He did warn against mocking Him though. We're speaking of two different gods though. Nietzsche was speaking of the God of the Bible as I am. You're speaking of a mother god. Two different entities.

  1. Reverend Paula Copp's Avatar Reverend Paula Copp

    He is an evil man. May he get what he dishes out!

  1. Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon's Avatar Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon

    After reading what Thiel is saying and researching what and who he is. It's obvious that he doesn't give a rat's turd about the spiritual and real world ramifications of "The Antichrist" he's a con artist plain and simple. Scriptures state "Many Antichrist are in the world already" -Apostle Paul 2000 years ago so I'm sure our world is flooded with them today. As to "The Antichrist" ; 1st it's an political office of King/President/Prime Minister. The scriptures are crystal clear on that. The "Beast of the Sea" is a Religious leader/organization and "Beast of the Land" is Political leader/Organization. To those that slept in Sunday school "Anti" = "Other than" + "Christ" = "Anointed" in Jewish "Messiah". Yeshua whom you call Jesus Christ was "Anointed" into all three offices. Priest, King and Prophet. Lucifer/Heilos whom Our Father renamed "Satan" ("Enemy") will require three separate people to fill those jobs.

  1. Najah P Tamargo's Avatar Najah P Tamargo

    Najah Tamargo-USA

    Maybe he should look in the mirror. And the people he helped get into this administration!

  1. Paul Johnson's Avatar Paul Johnson

    Just another way to make a buck. The devil is slick.

  1. Robin Anne Hannon's Avatar Robin Anne Hannon

    Does anyone read their bible anymore? The AntiChrist comes out of the Middle East. Peter Thiel does not qualify. In terms of what he spouts, it's mostly nonsensical with a few scriptures out of context for good measure.

    Next? LOL

  1. J. Anderson's Avatar J. Anderson

    ...hubris in all of us, unrecognized and strong as it ever was. (...in one's personal metaphysics, the eternal case of walking that tightrope decision of (a)wanting to KNOW your god(s), or (b)wanting to BE one, dating back to the rulers of the early Mesopotamian and Egyptian civilizations...).

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