Sister Leticia "Letty" Ugboaja has a routine. Every Sunday, she walks the same block in McAllen, Texas and steps into Our Lady of Sorrows for Mass, just a few doors down from her home. On June 28, however, she never made it inside.
That's because Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents stopped her steps from the church, confiscated her rosary, and handcuffed her. Within hours, outraged lawmakers were on the phone with the Department of Homeland Security, demanding her release.
What Happened to Sister Letty?
Ugboaja, 56, is a member of the Daughters of Mary Mother of Mercy, a Catholic order founded in Nigeria. By day, she works as a registered nurse at South Texas Health System. On Sundays, she serves as an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion at her parish. She was still in her habit when agents stopped her a block from home and drove her roughly an hour to the El Valle Detention Facility in Raymondville.
What happened inside those walls is only partly known. Sister Norma Pimentel, a well-known figure in South Texas border ministry, later said Ugboaja called for help while in custody and asked for medication agents would not let her have. Pimentel described her as "very distraught and scared, and didn't understand what was happening." Ugboaja herself has not spoken publicly; the diocese says she is declining interviews on the advice of legal counsel.
Word of her detention spread fast. Our Lady of Sorrows posted to Facebook within the hour, asking parishioners to hold Sister Letty in prayer until she came home.
By the way... Ugboaja is in the United States legally. Neither the Diocese of Brownsville nor the lawmakers who intervened ever got a clear answer from DHS about why she was stopped in the first place, and no agency has explained why her rosary was taken. By all accounts, she simply didn't have documentation with her at the moment agents approached, though DHS has never confirmed what prompted the stop.
Parishioners gathered outside her house to wait, some in tears themselves, while Pimentel searched for paperwork to prove Ugboaja's legal status. By evening, lawmakers announced her release instead, and Pimentel rushed to the detention facility to meet her. Ugboaja walked out crying and into Pimentel's arms, a moment local television captured.
Many questions remain open, and the Diocese says it is still investigating.
Was This Enforcement, or Overreach?
For a moment, the arrest produced something Washington rarely sees: agreement across the aisle. U.S. Rep. Monica De La Cruz, a Republican, said immigration enforcement should target violent criminals, not a nun on her way to church. U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Democrat, called for enforcement "focused on real threats to public safety." Bishop Daniel Flores called the entire episode "wildly disturbing" and asked that the protocols behind it be reformed.
Not everyone treated the resolution as a victory. Bobby Pulido, a Democrat running to unseat De La Cruz this fall, argued the story shouldn't have required two members of Congress and a call to the DHS secretary in the first place. He pointed to a pattern: a McAllen teenager was detained after a routine immigration check-in earlier this year, freed only after a similar burst of political pressure.
McAllen sits in a part of South Texas that backed President Trump in 2024, and Sister Letty's case is not the first local arrest to test that support. Lawmakers from both parties have now intervened multiple times this year on behalf of constituents swept up in enforcement, suggesting the disagreement here is less about party than about how aggressive ICE has become in their efforts.
More than two dozen denominations, including the Episcopal Church, the Mennonite Church, and the Union for Reform Judaism, have already sued DHS over the rescinded sensitive-locations policy that made Sister Letty's arrest possible. In February, a Massachusetts judge barred warrantless arrests at the churches named in one such case. But the injunction only covers the specific congregations that sued, and the Diocese of Brownsville is not among them, which is why Sister Letty's parish had no legal shield to invoke.
A newer Texas state law, which took effect this May after years of litigation, does explicitly exempt churches, schools, and health care facilities from its own internal immigration enforcement provisions. Texas, in other words, considers a church sanctuary enough to write into state law. But it was federal agents, unburdened by sanctuary laws and operating under their own set of rules, who stopped Sister Letty from entering hers.
What Happens When Church Stops Feeling Safe?
Churches, schools, and hospitals were long treated as "sensitive locations" where ICE rarely made arrests; that protection has been eroding for more than a year, and clergy have had to decide how to respond. Some see enforcement as a civic duty and others as a betrayal of the call to welcome the stranger, and that divide runs through congregations of every denomination.
Sister Pimentel said she is now telling every sister in her diocese to carry identification at all times, a precaution that would have sounded unthinkable a few years ago for women who have spent decades serving South Texas hospitals and parishes.
Sister Rose Patrice Kuhn, who ministers to migrants along the border, said foreign-born religious sisters across the region are now on edge. "It's really affecting them," she said. This is not the first time ICE agents and a congregation have collided since the sensitive-locations policy changed, and it is unlikely to be the last.
What Do You Think?
Sister Letty is home, but the questions her diocese raised are still open, and so are the ones for the rest of us. Should any distinction exist between how enforcement treats clergy and how it treats everyone else standing in line at church, at school, or in a hospital waiting room? And if neither legal status nor a habit were protection enough in this case, what would be?
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Pastor Bobby Roy
I stand firmly on the Word of God: No authority has the right to terrorize the innocent. No government has the right to treat servants of Christ as criminals. And no nation remains righteous when compassion is replaced with suspicion.
Sister Letty’s arrest was not enforcement — it was injustice. It was fear without discernment, power without wisdom, and authority without mercy.
As ministers, we must call our leaders to restore protections for houses of worship, to reform the policies that allowed this, and to ensure that no clergy, no immigrant, and no neighbor is ever again treated this way.
Because when the Church stops feeling safe, the nation has stepped outside the will of God.
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Rev Ned
AH had Horst Wessel and his GeStaPo, djt has Charlie Kirk and his ICE.
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Skye
I have a few concerns about this story, first they state she was steps from the church then they state she was by her home, and then they talk about the church being a sanctuary, She did not have id on her, when approached, if any other person did not have id on them they would have had the same thing done, detained until identification can be made. It states she is here legally, was that when they let in everyone without vetting them? So, could it also have been she was here "legally" but should she have been allowed to be here "legally"
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Hector Luis Moctezuma
S: ICE does not arrest people. The police does. ICE is not the police. Not having ID on, is no criminal offense. Arresting, detaining, abducting, and harming others is. And ICE has committed all of the above. You have issues with the story? Which part? The illegally detaining a nun on her way to or from Church? I thought ICE was only detaining violent criminals? Isn’t that what their stated purpose was? Sister Leto does not fit that MO.
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Rev. Kev
Skye:
In the the U.S. back when the Constitution was a thing, you couldn't be detained without a warrant or probable cause. No law enforcement officer can just randomly stop a person and arrest them. Identification or not.
In very recent history we have a case of someone being shot with no just cause only to later find out it was an "Oopsie" because they didn't even have the right person. So a totally innocent person illegally unalived by poorly trained "officers" disregarding basic rights under the law. Something happening a LOT lately.
What's happening now is not law enforcement. Law enforcement means enforcing existing laws in accordance with the laws. For immigration enforcement, that means an immigration judge signs off on a warrant which is then properly executed by trained personnel. Which has been happening for a very long time in this country without arresting, wounding, or killing innocent people in violent confrontations. Previous administrations have processed multiple thousands of deportations with no big shows of force.
By the way, what's happening now isn't even legal deportations as dictated by existing laws. Tossing people in planes and sending them to some random location with a for-profit prison system isn't deportation. That's called human trafficking. Deportation is when an individual has his or her day in a courtroom and an immigration judge issues a judgement of deportation. That individual is then detained and held in humane custody as the authorities contact the appropriate home country of the detainee to arrange for reception at the destination and production of all the proper paperwork and identification to accomplish the transfer. The detainee is then safely transported to that country, handed over to the recognized officials of that country's government, and processed so they can get the needed documents and transported to their location of choice to join friends or family or whoever they designate.
Because they are human beings. Not cattle.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Skye,
There is no contradiction. Her home was next to (i.e., just steps away from) the church. I guess, according to your "didn't have ID statement, that I should now start carrying my wallet and ID with me when I walk my dog in my own neighborhood. Unfortunately, this is something I have been considering doing, but so far have resisted because of where I live. Most of the people know me and see me regularly every day, and on a day when I don't they check up on me to see if I am ok. I am a US citizen, white, and female, but do not wear anything that denotes my religion, or could be confused with any religion. If I am not feeling safe on the streets from our own country's law enforcement, what has this country become? (You don't have to answer the question, because it is rhetorical.)
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Hector Luis Moctezuma
Impeach. Remove. Convict him! It sickens me to think of all the evil, all the harm and crimes committed by DJT, his administration, and the MAGA supporters who elected them to office. Yes, if you voted for the man, you bear responsibility for all the crimes he’s committed in office. Who’d in their right mind would arrest a nurse, a woman who’s taken vows of poverty, obedience, and chastity, who is here serving our nation’s needy, and who walks to church, to hand out the Eucharist to members of her religious community??? Who does that? Under whose authority does that happen? And the abductions? Blowing up of sea vessels without due process? Bombing of schools with our guided missiles? Wiping out of entire governing bodies abroad? Shooting of American civilians in broad daylight on our streets? Shooting of immigrants? Enrichment in dubious cryptocurrencies by government officials? Under whose authority are all these and other crimes occurring in our nation? Under DJT. May God be merciful to those repented, but may God be just.
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Minister Holly B Lovey
I SAY DISMANTLE ICE! MURDERERS AND RACIST ARE NOT CHRISTIAN and I don't care if anyone on here doesn't like my words because GOD IS NOT MADE OF THAT kind of crap. There are too many instances of innocent people getting misused by these people!
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Joseph Grieco
Here's something. How many ICE agents are considered Evangelical "Christians"? If they had their way, all Catholics would be expelled from this country, along with anyone else who doesn't subscribe to their narrow, exclusionary version of Christianity. That this nun had the audacity to not be white and to be dressed in what looked like a Hijab, and not a traditional Augustinian Habit (think "Sister Act" or "Sound of Music"), only compounded their actions.
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Pamela Jean Holbrook
Illegal is illegal . . . a crime in this country and every other civilized country of this entire world - including Vatican City. Detainees are "being treated" no better or worse than US citizens who are detained (arrested, imprisoned) - same quality of food, same medical care, same restrictions.
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Michael Hunt
First off, sister Letty was here legally. Second, ICE detainees are not being treated the same as US citizens detained by law enforcement. They are receiving rotting food, forced to live in horrendous conditions, and being physically and sexually abused.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/detained-immigrants-detail-physical-abuse-and-inhumane-conditions-at-largest-immigration-detention-center-in-the-u-s
https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/health-issues-for-immigrants-in-detention-centers/
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/12/estados-unidos-nuevas-investigaciones-revelan-violaciones-de-derechos-humanos-en-los-centros-de-detencion-de-alligator-alcatraz-y-krome-en-florida/
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Jose Luis Salinas
I believe in justice I say sue them for what they are doing ,they just killed another person and now they are crying that the unmarked officer felt threatened I call it bull they don't respect the laws anymore sister Nun should have never been arrested I say sue!!!! Get justice
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Minister J. Abram
JESUS himself would not be safe in this stupid society we have now.
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Sir Lionheart
Yes he would, as long as he had been properly vetted and met all the requirements for legal immigration. 🤭
Please don’t forget that his dad, God, has also set even tougher requirements to legally enter his Kingdom. If you don’t shape up you don’t get in, and instead of God sending you back to where you came from He sends you to a place of fire and brimstone for eternity. I personally think our set-up is better than Gods. At least they get to go back home where they came from.
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Hector Luis Moctezuma
Sir Lionheart??? Afraid to post under your real name?
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Sir Lionheart
You may refer to me as Sir, if you so wish. I actually have been blessed with the honorific title of “Lord” which I prefer to not use here to remain anonymous, but thank you, Hector, for your question.
Even though I now reside here in the United States (legally 🤭) I am quintessentially British as you might be able to tell from my very cryptic dry sense of humorous comments here on this Monastery blog.
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Doctor Loyal
Lord Xyz, I appreciate the dry humor as well as your grasp of syllogism. I'm afraid that the majority with whom you disagree are indoctrinated to the point where rational, logical, and coherent thought processes are no longer viable. Good luck with the hunt for open-minded responses in a reflexive knee-jerk forum.
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Sir Lionheart
Thank you Dr Loyal, we are indeed a rare species that I am so grateful is still flourishing among the chosen elite, of which others will of course not agree. 🤭
I love the proverb from writer John Haywood in 1546 that states “There are none so blind as those who will not see”. It’s thought to stem from earlier biblical ideas about willful ignorance, but Haywood gives it the wording we used today.
Thank you, Sir, for your kind comment. May the ground you walk upon always be firm. 🛡️⚔️🛡️
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Doctor Loyal
Thank you Sir,
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of His hand.
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Lester
I am a pagan, not a Christian. I am no fan of the church. I see anyone involved in these institutions as either a liar or a fool. But what ICE did here is beyond repulsive. To describe it as despicable would be insufficient.
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SDA
This is a manifestation of a disturbing tactic. Pick up enough random 'immigrant looking' people no matter what their status, and maybe some of the 'non-documented' people will leave on their own. Just like the ICE campaign asking for illegals to identify themselves for voluntary deportation. I wholeheartedly support the idea of deporting all non-documented immigrants who have violated any criminal statute. If they're not here legally and they want to break the law then they should be deported. Also, a federal law should be passed mandating prison time for anyone who reenters the country illegally after being deported.
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Alexander Clarke
Not under Trump's or the Republicans rule.
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Sir Lionheart
Or even Democrats rule, Mr Clarke, being as they too used our Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency to remove millions of illegal immigrants. Thankfully, we no longer detain them in cages like the ones President Obama approved.
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Michael Hunt
We treat detainees worse than simply holding them in cages. ICE is giving them rotting food to eat and denying them access to medical care. They're packing detainees in cells and there are even reports of physical and sexual abuse of detainees. Wake up.
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Doctor Loyal
From firsthand experience with detainment and incarceration, I believe you are falling for the indoctrination and propaganda involved with their Incarceration/Detainment. First, the food which is being propagandized; is nutritional and prepared under sanitary conditions. It is not a fancy, varied, nor gourmet quality, but it meets standards for cleanliness and nutrition. It may be as bland as beans and rice with a vegetable and a drink of water, or coffee, but it is neither rotten nor is it disgusting. Second, Sanitation, including housing is not penthouse quality and will consist of a minimal pad, a flat surface for it to be placed on, and clean sheets changed weekly. A blanket and pillow are included. The commode is typically either stainless or porcelain and usually cleaned daily by the Detained population. Laundry is performed weekly for all the incarcerated/detained population. You can, upon request, receive a copy of the sanitary and dietary rules for housing detained persons. Don't believe otherwise as propaganda is a primary tool for insurgents, malcontents, and those that are detained / incarcerated. I re-iterate - I have years of experience with these institutions, and I can state that the propaganda is probably 98+% outright lies and fabrications.
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Michael Hunt
So your claim is that all of these stories are lies and propaganda? If so, please provide evidence that contradicts these stories. If you come back with nothing but a DHS statement about the conditions, you're the one falling for propaganda.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/inside-an-ice-detention-center-detained-people-describe-severe-medical-neglect-harrowing-conditions
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/migrants-face-dire-conditions-and-prolonged-waits-in-u-s-detention-centers
https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/deaths-and-health-care-issues-in-ice-detention-centers-under-the-second-trump-administration/
https://harvardlawreview.org/print/vol-138/the-law-and-lawlessness-of-u-s-immigration-detention/
https://www.npr.org/2026/05/30/nx-s1-5841359/immigrant-detainees-sue-texas-camp-east-montana
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/07/02/ice-detainee-sought-mental-help-before-fatal-struggle-with-guards-records-show/
You know, during the Nazi regime the German people were also told the Jewish death camps were enemy propaganda and lies. We all know the truth of those atrocities now. If we don't listen to the people who are in these facilities, how are we to actually know what is going on there?
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Doctor Loyal
I stated that I had personal experience with Detention and Incarceration Institutions which you immediately disputed and/or Ignored. In fact, I had six years of experience in Prisons, Jails, and Correctional Institutions.
I see where you get you Left-Leaning viewpoint. You might try Non-Aligned or Independent News Outlets
AI Overview: Yes, major media monitors generally rate NPR as having a "lean left" bias. Organizations like AllSides classify its online news coverage as lean left based on blind bias surveys and story selection. - Straight Arrow
The network's political leanings are often debated: - Reddit
Conservative critics and some internal whistleblowers have argued that the organization's editorial focus and lack of viewpoint diversity have shifted it into an echo chamber for progressive viewpoints. - House.gov
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Michael Hunt
I didn't acknowledge your experience in detention and incarceration facilities because it doesn't change the current conditions that are being reported by those who were detained in ICE facilities. Just because you spent 6 years in correctional facilities does not mean you know what the conditions in ICE facilities are like today.
Just because a news outlet has a "left-leaning" bias, notably not a "left" or "far-left" outlet, doesn't mean that their reporting is false. Additionally, I provided other sources from NPR that you seem to have ignored.
If you have sources that contradict the sources I have provided, please share them with me so I can better inform my views.
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Rev. BH
Doc Loyal, what new sources do you watch or listen to? Fox news, internet bloggers like Tucker? Please let us know where your truth (social) comes from. Don't denigrate someone else's sources without counterpoint.
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Doctor Loyal
Ground News Q, ONN, BBC, Christian Science Monitor, Newsnation, Reuters, Ground News, and Allsides. The last two are aggregators and sample multiple sides of News Sources.
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Sir Lionheart
The Department of Homeland Security regularly disputes these claims, stating that all facilities are required to provide detainees with three proper meals a day, daily caloric intakes between 2,400 and 2,600 calories, and comprehensive medical care from day one. The agency maintains that ICE facilities undergo rigorous audits and regular inspections.
I’m sure there will be many upset detainees who will say differently, which will then of course support your bias, Michael. It’s what you want to hear, isn’t it? I bet some of those detainees wish they had never illegally set foot in this beautiful country of ours. They could all be home in their own country sitting with their feet up, having a pint, 🍺, eating healthy food,🥦 and watching the World Cup. ⚽️
It’s time for me now to take a nap now, so please wake me up again later. ⏰
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Michael Hunt
The same Department of Homeland Security that lied about the circumstances of Alex Pretti's death and called him a domestic terrorist? I take the government's claims with a grain of salt. Curious how when Trump's government says something it must be true but when Biden's government said something it was always a lie to conservatives...
You're believing the government's word over the words of the victims experiencing these horrid conditions because it supports your bias. I want to hear that these people are being treated with the finest care our country can provide. I want to be wrong about my negative views of the Trump administration. Unfortunately, there are so many disturbing stories out there about the conditions in these facilities and it strains belief to think that every single story, despite the common themes between them, is a lie.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/inside-an-ice-detention-center-detained-people-describe-severe-medical-neglect-harrowing-conditions
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/migrants-face-dire-conditions-and-prolonged-waits-in-u-s-detention-centers
https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/deaths-and-health-care-issues-in-ice-detention-centers-under-the-second-trump-administration/
https://harvardlawreview.org/print/vol-138/the-law-and-lawlessness-of-u-s-immigration-detention/
https://www.npr.org/2026/05/30/nx-s1-5841359/immigrant-detainees-sue-texas-camp-east-montana
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/07/02/ice-detainee-sought-mental-help-before-fatal-struggle-with-guards-records-show/
People are being detained who were trying to go through the legal process and have no criminal records yet they are treated violently. Some of those who came seeking asylum have had their asylum status stripped arbitrarily by this administration, underwent ICE detention and deportation only to be killed back in their home country.
https://lulac.org/news/pr/Migrants_Deported_By_Trump_Administration_Have_Been_Killed_Upon_Returning_To_Dangerous_Conditions/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/02/10/us-deported-them-ignoring-their-pleas-then-they-were-killed
So no, they wouldn't all be "all be home in their own country sitting with their feet up, having a pint, 🍺, eating healthy food,🥦 and watching the World Cup. ⚽️" I mean some countries are undergoing a humanitarian crisis and don't have enough food for their people, let alone healthy food and beer. That is an incredibly naive and privileged comment you've made.
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Doctor Loyal
AMEN !!!
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Rev. Kev
Clergy or not isn't even the real point. It didn't matter if she was in a nun's habit or a business suit or jeans and a t-shirt. Her skin color was the determining factor. Let's face it. People who are not white tend to be arrested more. Citizenship is also not a factor. Criminal record is not a factor. We know this because people here legally have been arrested. Even "deported" (trafficked). The majority of arrests are of people with no criminal record, or some minimal offense normally worthy of a fine. A small number of arrests are of the violent criminals who were supposed to be the ones targeted.
This is more about clearing out the "undesirables" and perceived enemies of the State than simple enforcement of immigration laws. All the State needs to do is slap a handy label on anyone and they can cart them off. The best trigger word is "terrorist". A term that has had its definition so expanded as to be meaningless. Literally anyone can be labeled a terrorist these days. Once applied, the gloves are off. Proper arrest warrant? Nope. Probable cause? Nope. Court hearing? Nope. Even war crimes can be committed.
Are we on the way to a State where anyone can be stopped at any time by an official who asks to "see your papers"? Where people submit out of fear of the consequence?
There's a word for when people live in terror because of some group imposing fear upon them. I can't remember what that is....
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Patricia Ann Gross
Rev Kev,
You ask, "Are we on the way to a State where anyone can be stopped at any time by an official who asks to "see your papers"? Where people submit out of fear of the consequence?" and the answer is absolutely not. We are already there. We passed the point of "on the way" about a year ago.
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Patricia Mitchell
If a nun in full habit, carrying a rosary, can be handcuffed outside her own church despite being here legally, then the issue isn’t about “signals” at all — it’s about the collapse of basic safeguards. A rosary didn’t protect her because the system wasn’t looking for humanity, context, or truth. It was looking for targets.
When enforcement stops distinguishing between threat and neighbor, between undocumented and documented, between criminal and clergy, everyone becomes vulnerable. That’s not restoring order — it’s erasing the line between protection and persecution.
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Brien
Thank you Patricia. You spoke very well.
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Jon Lorien Shenara
Taking a Nun's rosary is the lowest of the low. And arresting a num like that, just steps from her church, is even lower. What do they think she is going to do, kill herself or someone else with it, or use it as a weapon against the arresting agents? ICE has become nothing but a vigilant group of thugs preying on the weak and those who can't deffend themselves. America is slowly becoming a Godless nation and this cycle must be stopped, but not by forcing religion in the schools, but by offering it as an option. It all starts by reaching out to the parents and convincing them to to introduce religion into their children's lives. The next step is reaching out to the youth to get them interested. But it does have to be interesting and lively to attrac t kids today.
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
In 2001 I was arrested by east Feliciana Sheriff drug cartel on trumped up charged, housed with ICE prisoners and convicted felons in violation federal laws. I saw ICE agents treat the men there like animals most only locked up simply being here illegal. Not criminals came to USA chasing the dream of a better life. One man to my surprise I actually knew. An Iraqi who was our contact in 1990 helping again Sadem Husan. Our thank you and "protection" was to lock him up in jails with convicted criminals. I met a Cuban who lost his mind seeing his Wife, Daughter and son eaten by sharks crossing fleeing Castro to "the Promise Land". This has nothing to do with religion and all about government agents being A-holes abusing they authority. In the above mentioned jail a deputy took my Bible and ripped it to shredds. Taking her Rosary is tame what I've seen police and agents doing. This isn't the first story I've come across ICE arresting "Legal" immegranents. Australian Woman in Hawaii just married a American citizen deported; Russian woman in California here on school visa; English man in New York with work visa; Canadian woman in Florida on vacation with family at Disney world. On and on. ICE has gone bat crap stupid in all this.
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Doctor Loyal
I guess you consider breaking the law not to be a Criminal act. If you enter the USA illegally, you are breaking the LAW. If you break the LAW, you are legally a Criminal and an ILLEGAL Alien. In simple terms, if you do something that is illegal like entering a country Unlawfully, you are a Criminal and an ILLEGAL. I stated this simply in case you are mentally impaired. Tell me what Part of Illegal do you not understand ??
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Michael Hunt
So if you break the speed limit, you're also a criminal? Both speeding and illegally entering the country are misdemeanors, not felonies, so if you're considering undocumented immigrants who enter the country illegally to be criminals, anyone who commits a similar misdemeanor would also be a criminal. I stated this simply in case you are mentally impaired.
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Lion on the Beach
In NE Fl. recently 4 illegals dressed as priests were stopped in a stolen vehicle, for speeding. All four had been deported previously and all four had outstanding warrants for drug trafficking, weapons violations, and felony assault and battery. Not exactly the individuals that should be masquerading and representing any faith. Not exactly the individuals any rational person would support or defend under any circumstances.
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Chris
Every Sunday I see people masquerading as Christians who don't practice that belief system at all. They merely show up to church every week for appearances.
And yes, I am talking in person. One woman recently told me the only reason she still attends a Methodist church is because she's been a Methodist for 60 years, not because she agrees with the church itself. She thinks they're too "woke" by being inclusive and trying to help the downtrodden and marginalized like Jesus said to do.
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Lester
We also have criminals who impersonate police officers, firefighters and ICE officers. Should we just arrest all police, firefighters and ICE agents on sight, just in case?
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Christopher Rocco Scafidi
Do you think they are not criminals themselves?
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Sir Lionheart
Yes, masquerading one’s identity has taken many disguises in the past. I’ve heard of men with firearms dressing in Niqab’s and Hijab’s to escape being caught. It will be very interesting to find the outcome of this situation as more facts come to light. She could be, and more than likely is, a genuine nun, but it’s interesting how people instantly jump to words like “Gestapo”, “Fascist’s” or “Nazi Germany” because it’s suits their confirmation bias.
Thank you for your intelligent comment on this topic. 🤗
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Michael Hunt
Those criminals still deserve basic human rights and dignity, regardless of their crimes or immigration status.
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Sir Lionheart
Yes, I totally agree with you, Michael. At least those criminals are not being placed in those cages that Obama had created, right? Thank goodness DHS has debunked the claims of poor conditions by those criminals. I bet people won’t want to believe DHS because it goes against their narrative they want to believe, but that’s okay, it’s what we have come to expect because of their hate for this administration. At least you and I can agree that all criminals deserve basic human rights and dignity.
Thank you, Michael.
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Michael Hunt
People don't believe DHS because they've blatantly lied about obvious facts numerous times now under the Trump administration.
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Sir Lionheart
Of course they don’t Michael. Even if there was solid concrete evidence to support DHS I would not for one minute expect any Democrat or liberal to believe it. I honestly didn’t expect you to come back with any positive comment, and I knew that if I was going to get any reply back at all, it was going to be from you. That’s how deeply entrenched you are in your belief system. Nothing will change you, even though you have suggested you are open to believing otherwise. I think we all know that will never happen.
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Michael Hunt
Show me the solid evidence that supports DHS and I'll admit I was wrong and change my opinion. You constantly accuse me of refusing to change my mind but you never provide evidence that supports your belief, you just claim it's true and that I'm basically a delusional liberal for believing otherwise. I present you evidence constantly that contradicts your beliefs and you immediately dismiss it as a liberal lie without any proof that it is.
Please stop projecting your actions and behaviors on to me.
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N.I.C.E. National Immigration Customs Enforcement have a Job to Do.
You couldn't take a bed roll into the Vaticant and say you live there. You would have to go through proper channels to visit & have a legal reason to stay there for an extended period of time & a Valid passport.
N.I.C.E. is 'no respector of persons', but is called to obey the law towards all people.
Foreign religious need to have their passport in order, and their organization has the responsibility to ensure their paperwork is all in order and complete.
That said, typically the professional religious are seen as 'On Mission' deployed to where ever their Faith Group Sends them.
The faithful individuals are expected to respect all laws of humans as long as they do not conflict with the laws of love for God.
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Michael Hunt
She was here legally. She did all of the right steps and ICE still detained her without any cause or reason besides looking like an immigrant.
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Sir Lionheart
It’s definitely an interesting situation, but everyone is replying to a story where we still don't have any understanding yet as to why she was detained and so it’s very easy to jump to conclusions depending on your bias. It might have been an error, or it might not. Interestingly, one additional detail that has emerged is that, after her release, she was reportedly instructed to report back to ICE later in July. That suggests the matter may involve an ongoing immigration proceeding rather than a criminal allegation. We’ll just have to wait and see.
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Keoni Ronald May
Is what ICE is doing; Illegal ? Unethical ? Immoral ?
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
It was one person being a jerk. Who did visual profiling and got it wrong? That's all it was. Quit blaming everyone for every action by one idiot jerk.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Unethical and Immoral but unfortunately, it is not illegal.
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Sir Lionheart
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement program was created to enforce our nations immigration laws, and root out those who have entered the United States illegally. Both Republican and Democrat administrations have used this program to successfully remove millions of illegal immigrants. So, to answer your question, customs enforcement in any country is not illegal, unethical, or immoral. Allowing unvetted immigrants to freely walk into any country could definitely be classed as illegal, and unethical, putting law abiding citizens at risk of being harmed, which has been proved in the past of crimes by many unvetted illegal immigrants.
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Michael Hunt
The way ICE today is going about enforcing those immigration laws is absolutely immoral and unethical. They are treating people worse than dogs in ICE detention centers and no one deserves such treatment.
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Sir Lionheart
You’ve been watching too much social media, Michael. Can you imagine going to work every day sitting at your desk, or doing manual work, or whatever you do for a living, and having a raging mob screaming and shouting at you with megaphones in your face? Some saying they are coming after you and your family. I wonder if it would test your patience? I mean, let’s face it, you even get angry and sometimes get out of control just reading the Monastery Blogs with the associated comments, and these are just words in a blog. 🤷
This was your last comment to me further down on this page. [ 📣 “Wake up” ]
I’m amazed ICE officers hold their patience as much as they do. No wonder they have masks attempting to hide their identity. Some of those unruly mobs are out-of-control big time.
I personally think they should bring back the water cannon, especially in winter.
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Michael Hunt
How does the behavior of protestors affect your ability to treat people with dignity while they are in detention? Have you considered that the protestors are there in the first place because of the actions of ICE agents?
You've moved the goal posts from detention facilities to making public detentions. We can have a disagreement about whether or not the detentions should happen, but the treatment of those detained should not be up for debate.
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Sir Lionheart
Most of the protesters are there because they disagree with upholding immigration law and its enforcement and want to make it as difficult as possible to prevent customs enforcement from doing their job. I’m amazed ICE holds there cool as much as they do.
Yes, treatment of those detained should be up for debate when statements such as yours are denied by Homeland Security.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Sir LH,
SInce ICE is part of DHS, they aren't credible. largely because of the FOX figurehead running the show. It's like the police policing the police on matters of police brutality. They all stick together.
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Doctor Loyal
Do I detect a possible touch of paranoia in this post ?
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Patricia Ann Gross
Sir LH,
People just down the street from me at Planned Parenthood face this 2-3 times a week, but in the five years I have lived here, not a single doctor or nurse or administrator from that building (or patient for that matter) that has entered or exited has shot one of those protestors.
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Doctor Loyal
Planned parenthood has not had concrete blocks thrown at them yet.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Sir LH,
I guess it depends on where you're talking about. Some have been bombed, some have had doctors harassed and murdered.
When protests are on the sidewalks outside the clinics ALL patients entering, including those gooing in for routine GYN exams, STD treatment, prenatal care, birth control devices and scripts, OR abortions are mocked and harrassed as "baby killers."
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Michael Hunt
Planned Parenthood facilities have been bombed...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68828076
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Sir Lionheart
As far as I’m aware, but I could be wrong, I don’t think any protestors have tried running down any Planned Parenthood employees, or threatened to hunt down their families.
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Michael Hunt
You are wrong.
https://www.acog.org/advocacy/abortion-is-essential/trending-issues/violence-against-providers-of-abortion-care-and-clinics
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Patricia Ann Gross
Sir LH,
Once again, how did you get so far off the topic? This is actually an article about a nun being detained by ICE.....
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Sir Lionheart
I was merely addressing your off topic comment about planned parenthood.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Which was responding to your question to Michael, "Can you imagine going to work every day sitting at your desk, or doing manual work, or whatever you do for a living, and having a raging mob screaming and shouting at you with megaphones in your face? Some saying they are coming after you and your family. I wonder if it would test your patience? I mean, let’s face it, you even get angry and sometimes get out of control just reading the Monastery Blogs with the associated comments, and these are just words in a blog." I was giving an example of others who face the same BS as ICE does every day and DO NOT resort to violence, which was your question. You were the one that jumped down the Planned Parenthood rabbit hole. This is where the "whataboutism" gets you.
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Before this discussion continues, may I offer a thought to all of us—including myself. As Christians, we are called to stand firmly for what we believe. Conviction is not the problem. The manner in which we express it often is. The world already has more than enough anger, insults, ridicule, and contempt. If our words become indistinguishable from the world's, then we have lost one of the greatest opportunities Christ has given us—to be recognized by our love, our patience, and our self-control. Scripture reminds us, "Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires." (James 1:19–20) Likewise, St. Paul writes, "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs." (Ephesians 4:29) This does not mean we avoid difficult conversations or compromise the truth. Jesus Himself spoke the truth boldly. But He never asked us to sacrifice charity in order to defend conviction. ENOUGH WITH VULGAR HATE
We can disagree without hatred.
This does not mean we avoid difficult conversations or compromise the truth. Jesus Himself spoke the truth boldly. But He never asked us to sacrifice charity in order to defend conviction.
We can disagree without hatred. We can correct without contempt. We can defend our beliefs without attacking the dignity of another person.
Before pressing "Post," perhaps each of us should ask:
Will these words help reveal Christ in me, or only my frustration? If we claim His name, then our words should reflect His character. Let us speak the truth with courage, but always with grace, humility, and love.
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Lester
Interesting... Wasn't it you who claimed in another post that someone's comment made no sense, along with an unflattering comparison to a "box of rocks? "
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Brien
Well, Mr ddr, or PhD, or whatever you call yourself, it was you and zealots like you that began the whole hate speech thing. You cannot avoid it as it is your belief structure that dictates your speech. How convenient for you. When you're offensive it is the word of God...when I offend it is MY words and I correct the situation. You use a make believe deity to justify your very narrow minded views. The world will outgrow you. Peace ✌️
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
So much hate in your message. Indeed it was NOT me but I understand why you thrown all catholics under the bus.
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Brien
Not all, just zealots that use a make believe deity as a weapon to justify hate. Like what you said about putting me in the hospital for your misinterpreting of my post. Peace ✌️
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Also, if I may, you're way of addressing me like that is not cleaver, its childish and insulting. Please stop that and have adult conversations not childish words.
Thank you
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Brien
I will address you as I see fit. Don't like it? Don't read it.
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Brien
Welcome to Nazi Germany. I hope you are all proud of the current regime that runs this country. I don't subscribe to fictional religious beliefs but even I don't go around jacking nuns. Some things you just don't do. I hope you zealots are happy with yourselves. All hail the great orange one.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
A box of rocks make more sense than your statement
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Linda S Bayer
Actually, his response does make more sense than yours.
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Rev. BH
Linda, Dr. Multi-Letters statements seldom do.
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Lester
Reason is rarely reasonable to the unreasonable. Sense is rarely sensible to the senseless. Logic is rarely logical to the illogical.
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Brien
What confuses you about my statement? It seems to be very clear to me.
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Michael Hunt
I don't think he did...
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Brien, How is this Nazi Germany? If you now your history you know the Nazi government had extermination camps and specifically targeted Jews extermination all in the name of the Christian God. The Nazis also declared war on other countries and invaded them. The Nazis burned books of Jewish authors.
Brien Where is this happening in America?
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Rev. BH
D.R.S, extrapolate:
The US has overcrowded detention camps where people are suffering and dying. Substitute "targeting immigrants" for "Jews". We just declared war on Iran and invaded them. MAGA groups have pulled books from libraries they find unacceptable, mainly black and LGBTQ oriented.
And you ask where is this happening in America?
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Brien
Going after groups of people in order to excise them from the population is where I make the comparison. I am sorry you can't see that. And people have died in the process, another similarity. Ok?
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Doctor Loyal
I think you are confused. Adolph Schickelgruber started the Democrat Socialist Party in Germany in the 1930s. The only problem is that he changed his name to Adolph Hitler and the Nazionalsocialismus became the NAZI Party when Adolph and his party took control. Would you walk in those footsteps ???
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Merlin
Fear and intimidation. Trump wants to be the wrath of God. Trump building a lot of bad energy.
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Jeremy Martin
Is she in the US illegally? The Catholic Church is worth Billions, they are not above the law and can afford to assist their Nuns in becoming Legal residents.
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Karl G. Ruling
The beginning of the 6th paragraph says, "By the way... Ugboaja is in the United States legally."
She was not here illegally, and DHS has given no explanation as to why she was detained or her rosary taken. It's all there in the story.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
The author of the story is CLAMING she is here legally. But is she?
Her rosary was taken because it could be used as a weapon to harm others or herself.
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Rev. BH
DRS, OMG! a killer rosary! Worse than guns!
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Michael Hunt
What evidence do you have that she wasn't here legally?
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Jemma Kimberly Whyatt
Reading is hard eh Jeremy.
I can’t begin to fathom how anyone could be so ignorant, lazy or both that they can’t be bothered to read a very short, easy to comprehend article for themselves before writing and posting a comment.
However it does go towards explaining the state of things.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Jeremy,
She is here legally.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
There will be hell to pay for this.
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Lester
I certainly hope so.
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Najah P Tamargo
Najah Tamargo-USA
This is an appalling story! If churches are not a SANCTUARY, then what is? ICE needs to be reigned in and punished for such deplorable actions!
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Najah,
She wasn't inside the church when this happened, but I get your meaning.
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But look, Ty. She was so scary!
more: "A Roman Catholic priest from Nigeria who'd been preparing to leave the United States over a visa issue died last week, according to church officials in Massachusetts, where he'd been serving as a hospital chaplain for several years. Rev. Benjamin Madu, of the Diocese of Abakaliki, died Thursday, according to an announcement from pastor Father Jim Achadinha of the Catholic community of Gloucester and Rockport, calling it a "devastating loss."
The belief is suicide, rather than being deported to Nigeria.
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Michael Hunt
That's a heartbreaking story and I'm sure it's not the only of it's kind due to Trump's immigration policies. There seems to be a lack of compassion towards fellow humans in our country now.
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Michael Hunt
ICE continues to racially profile immigrants of all statuses and deny them basic rights as part of this administration's White nationalist agenda. We should be ashamed of their actions and furious at our government for enabling them.
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Sir Lionheart
Bless your heart. I bet you think that ICE is purposely ignoring all those millions of “white” illegal aliens coming across the southern border so that you can say there is racial profiling. 🤭
Just as a heads-up, and just in case you haven’t noticed, 99.9% and possibly 100% are not white. Sorry about that.
Please think about your “White nationalist agenda” comment the next time you see old news videos of illegal immigrants pouring across the border under the Biden administration. And also think about your comment the next time you view 100’s of young adults plundering stores en-masse grabbing armfuls of clothes, cosmetics, and sport shoes etc.
PS: My apologies for being white pointing these things out to you. 🤷🧑🏼🦳
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Michael Hunt
"I bet you think that ICE is purposely ignoring all those millions of “white” illegal aliens coming across the southern border so that you can say there is racial profiling."
Nope. That's not at all what I have said so please do better than a straw man argument. ICE are racially profiling US citizens and detaining them because they "look illegal." Have we become a nation where people of color have to carry papers showing their citizenship or legal immigration status to prevent them from being detained by ICE? I mean, even people who have had their proof of citizenship on them have been detained by ICE simply because they are of Mexican decent.
Since this administration has made it harder for immigrants to come to this country, unless they're White South Africans falsely claiming persecution, and stripped protections from asylum seekers, it's become a system where only White people are being allowed to immigrate to the US and anyone who "looks illegal" are targeted. This is all a plan drafted by Stephen Miller, a White nationalist and White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy. If the only people being given easy paths to immigrate to the US are White people, that's probably a White nationalist agenda. They're making it so that the only way for people of color to come to the US is through undocumented means.
"And also think about your comment the next time you view 100’s of young adults plundering stores en-masse grabbing armfuls of clothes, cosmetics, and sport shoes etc."
The people committing these crimes are overwhelmingly, if not completely, US citizens. Immigrants, regardless of legal status, are significantly less likely to commit crimes than US citizens so falsely painting them as criminals is just another White nationalist goal.
PS: My apologies for being white pointing these things out to you.
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Sir Lionheart
The only people that have to carry documents are those like my children who have green cards, or those with visas to reside here, or those that are allowed to be here while their status is being validated.
It has of course become very difficult to get legal immigration status due to the millions of illegal immigrants who have been allowed to just walk across the border in the past. I feel sorry for those legitimately waiting in line. The vetting process to ensure applicants meet the requirements to be allowed to reside in this country is extremely important. Your thinking process of wanting to believe white applicants have an advantage is not true, but I realize I cannot get you to think differently.
If your misplaced logic that ICE is stopping everyone because of their color was true, they would be stopping nearly everyone they see, especially in California, but it’s just not possible for them to do that. They stop and apprehend those that they are already aware of having probable cause of being illegal. There is nothing wrong with that if they can justify it.
This “white supremacy” or “White Nationalist” rhetoric that Dems love to push is just typical conspiracy theories they love to use to push their ridiculous ideological narratives to cause unrest and division to those who are gullible enough to believe it.
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Michael Hunt
Numerous US citizens and legal residents have been stopped by ICE, demanded they prove they're a citizen, and had ICE try and whisk them away in one of their vans. You are ignorant if you believe otherwise.
https://ij.org/press-release/arrested-by-ice-and-held-for-three-days-without-communication-or-a-hearing-citizen-and-veteran-sues-feds/
https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will
Illegal immigration is not the cause of legal immigration backups, it's immigration limits on people coming from other countries that prevent people from immigrating. The limit for people coming from England, of which there are very few, is the same limit for people coming from Mexico, despite a higher demand.
Stephen Miller, White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and the one leading the administration's immigration policy, is a White Nationalist. This isn't rhetoric, this is the description you would give to someone who carries his views.
https://jsri.msu.edu/publications/nexo/vol-xxiv/no-2-spring-2021/hatemonger-stephen-miller-donald-trump-and-the-white-nationalist-agenda
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/01/trump-stephen-miller-anti-white-racism-plan
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/stephen-miller-racist-emails-immigrants/
This isn't conspiracy theory, it's documented words and actions by Miller.
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Sir Lionheart
It’s ok for you to disagree, Michael. You are welcome to keep thinking the way you do. Ultimately, illegal immigrants will be removed. The sooner they volunteer to leave the easier it will be for them. Those that don’t, will be located and returned.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSnssnbDreF/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Michael Hunt
Way to completely dodge all of my points. You can't actually address them, you just resort to whataboutism.
It's okay with us to disagree about whether chocolate or vanilla ice cream is better. Disagreeing about documented facts is just willful ignorance.
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Sir Lionheart
Michael, if I really thought there was any real way of getting through to you to help you understand I would address all your points, but it’s very clear that will never happen because you are too deeply entrenched into your negativism, and you will try and find at all costs anything to support your confirmation bias.
Illegal immigration is a curse on our nation and all illegal aliens should be returned, and hopefully will, just like Obama, both Clinton’s, Feinstein, Schumer, Pelosi etc have said.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dalp-oJp87l/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Michael Hunt
"you will try and find at all costs anything to support your confirmation bias."
You're projecting your actions onto me. I try and find facts and data to educate my beliefs, not support my confirmation bias. As I have said a multitude of times now, I will happily admit when I am wrong, and I have done so here in the past, and I will change my beliefs if there is evidence that they are incorrect. You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge any of the sources I provide to support my beliefs and instead find any website that shares your beliefs even when that website is known to be an unreliable source or straight up propaganda.
"Michael, if I really thought there was any real way of getting through to you to help you understand I would address all your points"
Do not try and use me as a cop out so you don't have to address the points raised to you. You're falsely claiming that I'm, "too deeply entrenched" in my beliefs just so you don't have to answer. If you actually could address my points with well documented responses, I would sincerely welcome that. That's how discussions are supposed to go. We each share our beliefs, provide supporting evidence for them, provide critiques of the other person's beliefs, and as a result become more well-rounded people with better understandings of those we disagree with. So far, I have done this while you continue to deflect.
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Sir Lionheart
It’s ok Michael try not to worry about everything.
Just as an FYI, 67 people died in ICE custody under Obama. Democrats were silent because they don’t really care about illegals when Democrats are running the show, they only want to hate President Trump as a result of their Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Obama’s ICE chief received an award from him for finding and removing over 900,000 illegal aliens. Trumps ICE Chief was called a Nazi. It’s the same person - Tom Homan. His protocols for finding and removing illegal aliens is exactly the same. The difference is, you will read or hear about it in the liberal media if it helps to support the hate for President Trump.
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Michael Hunt
Again resorting to whataboutisms I see.
I'm well aware that 67 people died in ICE custody under Obama's 8 years in office. That's just a bit over 8 people per year. While Democrat politicians may have been silent as you say, there are plenty of articles and studies critical of ICE during this time written by people you would label as liberals or Democrats.
The difference with the Trump administration is that they are currently on pace to top the 67 deaths that occurred under the Obama administration in just 2 years opposed to 8. Through the first 500 days of Trump's second term, at least 52 people have died in ICE custody. That's just short of a rate of 38 people per year. Do you really not see why one is significantly more alarming than the other?
https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/06/25/us-deaths-in-ice-custody-surge-under-trump
Liberals were also critical of Tom Homan and his methods during the Obama administration. Unlike you with Trump, I am not an Obama sycophant. I'm capable of criticizing him for the decisions he made, such as his appointment of Homan. However, the claim that Homan's current protocols were the same as they were during his tenure under Obama is false. There was not the same policy of the mass-separation of families like there is today.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/did-the-obama-administration-separate-families/
I think you should stop resorting to accusing people of TDS because it's just a method of discrediting criticism made toward him without actually addressing the criticism being made. You can't actually defend against the criticism of Trump so you resort to accusing us of being deranged and mentally ill.
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Sir Lionheart
‘….so you resort to accusing us of being deranged and mentally ill.”
Nooooh! What on earth made you think that?
With your full mental faculties, you didn't by any chance vote for this one, did you?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dagh4NiyAt5/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Michael Hunt
Still dodging the critiques I see. Maybe if you were actually capable of defending your positions, you wouldn't have to constantly resort to whataboutisms and logical fallacies.
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Rev. BH
Wait until our "highly trained" ICE agents are required to wear body cams (and not forget to turn them on). Might it slow down the "accidental" killing of innocent US citizens? One hopes, eh LIon?
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Doctor Loyal
We don't need Illegals. If you want to live here, do it LEGALLY !!! Get a VISA, Get your Citizenship !!! Nobody is stopping you from being in the US LEGALLY but your own refusal to become Citizens !! Illegals are breaking the Law, breaking the law is Criminal Behavior, aiding and abetting criminals is Illegal and criminal behavior. The REFUSAL to acquire citizenship, assimilate, and continued use of Taxpayer dollars to support Illegals must stop. Thousands of Americans on fixed incomes are losing their homes because their income isn't enough to support Free housing, Free Food, Free medical, and Welfare for ILLEGALS !!!
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Minister Joseph
“If you want to live here, do it LEGALLY !!! Get a VISA, Get your Citizenship !!! Nobody is stopping you from being in the US LEGALLY”
Yeah let’s completely ignore the part when ICE is going into court hearings and arresting people before they are getting their citizenship. With no criminal record, some the ACTUAL DAY they were going to get their citizenship. Yeah let’s forget about that. Also let’s forget that the biggest recipients of welfare in this country are corporations like Walmart. That get paid 3 times by our taxes. First for all the hand out that Recieved, second because it pays so little to their employees, they have to get welfare/snap benefits to survive. That they use in… you guessed it, Walmart. So they take that money too. And a third time they get paid for hiring and employing snap benefits workers. Amazon does it too. Do you see the irony on that?
But yes less blame illegals, that can’t use any Welfare benefits/medicare/medicaid because they don’t have a social security number to apply for it. Also let’s forget that like everyone else taxes gets taken away from their paychecks, at the grocery store and everything else like you and me, but they cannot claim anything of that back. So over 1.8 billion dollars of that money goes to help, snap benefits and other welfare programs. Let’s caller what it is, you are blissfully unaware of all of this or you just spreading misinformation
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Most of ICE's booking (65.4%) are for non-criminals and non violent offenders per their own logs. So, even if you believe in their logs being accurate, then you should understand that they don't even believe the argument you present.
Source: https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2025-06/ICE%20Custody%20Data%20as%20of%2006-14-2025_0.pdf (Which was released by ICE).
Why are people losing their homes? Believe it or not... you are targeting the wrong people. Benefits are being cut by our own government even with illegals in the country being lower. It has also been found that a lot of these non-US citizens being deported mean higher prices as agriculture workers were working under the table for under minimum wage. Now... well, that's changed.
Trying to get legal status is now even more difficult. People who have been on that path have been removed. There is no compassion nor care in trying to help. So, to your point, yes, someone is stopping them. The process is much more difficult and even if you are in the multi-year process you can be deported right now just because they want to. Even US Citizens have been deported. I'd be curious if that even bothers you. Let's be honest... this boils down to a simple logical point. Do we love our neighbor?
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Michael Hunt
There are plenty of obstacles for people trying to immigrate to the US. It's a very long, difficult process that the majority of undocumented immigrants want to go through. They pay more in taxes than they receive in government benefits since they are not eligible for things like welfare as undocumented immigrants. These people are by no means refusing to become citizens, they actually do want to become legal residents but so many are denied that opportunity for a multitude of reasons. Please take the time to educate yourself more on the US immigration process.
https://carnegie.org/article/how-people-immigrate-legally-to-the-us/
https://www.superlawyers.com/resources/immigration/how-hard-is-it-to-legally-immigrate-to-the-us/
https://cmsny.org/undocumented-eligible-to-naturalize-population-democratizing-data-release-080421/
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/why-dont-they-just-get-line/
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Sir Lionheart
“ but so many are denied that opportunity for a multitude of reasons.”
The main reason is because they entered this country “illegally”. Is that really hard for you to understand Michael?
Penalties for entering some countries illegally are:
Singapore, 6 months in prison.
Russia. Two years in labor camp
India. 8 years in prison.
Pakistan. 10 years in prison.
North Korea. Death penalty.
USA under Biden. Free Housing, Health Care, Free Education, Food, Employment, Transportation, Phones, and cash.
Illegal immigrants killed approximately 13,000 Americans in 2024. The total number of homicides in the US in 2024 was 20,162. That’s 64% of all murders.
This is why many of us support ICE and the immigration laws here in the United States.
Please let me know if you want any education on the immigration process to enter this country legally. I can help you with that because I’ve been there and done that.
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Michael Hunt
"The main reason is because they entered this country 'illegally'."
If you actually read the links I provided in my previous comment, you would know that claim is untrue. People come here illegally when they are desperate and the system prevents them from having a path to legally immigrate.
I don't think suggesting the penalties used by authoritarian states like Russia and North Korea or far-right theocratic regimes like India and Pakistan, and an autocratic state like Singapore where the penalty also includes three whips from the cane. I hope we can both agree that America should be better than how these countries' legal systems work.
"Illegal immigrants killed approximately 13,000 Americans in 2024."
This isn't even the correct lie told by the Trump administration. They falsely claimed in 2024 that the Biden administration let more than 13,000 “illegal immigrant murderers” into the United States. That is a distortion of the true statistics and data.
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/09/trump-vance-wrong-about-illegal-immigrant-murderers/
I am fully aware that you were able to come to the US from England through legal means but what you fail to understand is that there are more barriers and challenges for immigrants coming from different countries. There is a low number of people immigrating to the US from England but a significantly higher number looking to immigrate from Mexico or other countries south of our border, yet our country has the same cap on the number of people immigrating to the US from England as we do Mexico. It is objectively an easier process for and Englishman like yourself to come to the US than it is for a Mexican with the same qualifications.
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Rev. BH
Lyin, Where do you get your info? Truth Social? "No comprehensive, universal package provides all of these items for free to everyone in the United States. However, the U.S. has a network of social safety net programs. These are designed to help low-income individuals, families, and specific groups (like veterans or the elderly) who meet certain requirements"
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Rev. BH
Doc L, go to a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS ) office to register and do the right thing, and ICE is there waiting to bust you before you can go in. Happened in my town.
Free housing, food and medical? Prove this nonsense. Americans are suffering financially from tariffs, expensive wars and blockades. Do you think immigrants raised the price of gas and groceries?
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Doctor Loyal
Penalties for entering some countries illegally are:
Singapore, 6 months in prison.
Russia. Two years in labor camp
India. 8 years in prison.
Pakistan. 10 years in prison.
North Korea. Death penalty.
USA under Biden. Free Housing, Health Care, Free Education, Food, Employment, Transportation, Phones, and cash.
Illegal immigrants killed approximately 13,000 Americans in 2024. The total number of homicides in the US in 2024 was 20,162. That’s 64% of all murders.
This is why many of us support ICE and the immigration laws here in the United States.
If ICE has a warrant, they WILL arrest the Illegal, either on the street, in a courtroom, a restaurant, or on the street.
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Sir Lionheart
New York openly admitted that housing was being provided for illegal aliens, but then again they are a sanctuary city, so that’s what we have come to expect from socialist blue states. Free, free, free!
The blockade is only for Iran. USA will eventually be reimbursed by other nations for freeing up the Straits on their behalf with a 20% levy. Thank goodness we have a business man at the helm and not just a politician that will throw billions in green cash to Iran like Obama did.
Tariffs are helping us to reduce our debt that previous administrations got us into. Remember Biden? I suggest you look to buy things that are grown/produced here in the US. Tariffs are why the foreign auto and Chip industry are now setting up shop here in the USA, which also provides jobs. Again, another brilliant business strategy.
Wrap your head around this... Democrats are mad ICE is using Medicaid data to find and arrest illegals after they told us illegals aren't on Medicaid. Hmmmm! Weird….right? 🤔
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Michael Hunt
NYC provided housing for asylum-seekers, not undocumented immigrants.
https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2024/01/24/city-signs--77m-contract-with-hotels-to-house-migrant-families
https://www.nyc.gov/content/omb/pages/what-we-do/asylum-funding-tracker
Undocumented immigrants do not receive medicare or medicaid but can qualify emergency medicaid where the state pays hospitals to cover the costs of emergency care they are obligated to provide to anyone who comes in. Part of this application asks for immigration status which is why Democrats do not want ICE using the data. All this will do is scare immigrants away from receiving the emergency care they need for fear of being separated from their families.
https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/5-key-facts-about-immigrants-and-medicaid/
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Sir Lionheart
Yes, yes, of course, Michael. Bless your heart. If it helps I suggest you keep thinking and believing that way. 🤗
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Michael Hunt
Bless your heart; facts are fiction to you even when they're put right in front of your face. Have fun living in fantasy land, I guess.
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Sir Lionheart
Oh! Does Fantasy Land really exist? I Guess I’ll just have to take your word that it’s real. You obviously still experience it. In the mean time, the rest of us real American citizens will carry on enjoying watching America become great again. This is getting really exciting and we are still not yet half way into this administration’s term.
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
Actually recently my two half brothers got served with legal papers to appear in federal court; apparently what 99% Americans don't know/understand is up to four generations of an immigrant can be deported as Dual citizen of America and the original nation. In my brothers case Italy which is a factist state and white supremacy nation my request their white citizens back. Although they never been outside the USA in their life. Why didn't ICE simply give the nun a summon to court, ICE is picking on none whites while pretending to follow the law with whites. Plain and simple it's right in everyone's face if they'll open their eyes.
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Doctor Loyal
Just a note: The idiots that detained the Nun were racial profiling. That practice is frowned upon by the vast majority of all LEOs and to blame the Organization for the act of a couple of overzealous morons is a knee-jerk reflex, not an actual thoughtful response.
It would be like seeing an alcoholic priest that steals the sacramental wine to become intoxicated, and stating, "That Church is BAD, because that Priest is a drunk.
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Nicholas J Page
Praying for you Sister Letty Ice are im the news again for all the wrong reasons. Do the police not have a police national computer that all officers should have access to in their vehicles so they could identify this young lady to say she's legally in the States or is this more racism on the black community im white British and we are all loved by God no matter our race creed or colour
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Ty Ford
ICE is an atrocity.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
People who beak the law entering our country illegally is why we have ICE. What would be an atrocity is opening our boarders and allowing everyone and anyone into our country.
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Ty Ford
You have a problem defining what you presume are "illegal" entries. The media, including social media, in general, are clueless as to a person's "legality." They produce "click bait" to entertain you.
There is a federal system that these ignorant objectors remain clueless to. We have people who have entered this country quite legally, per OUR LAWS, who are being abused and/or MURDERED by ICE.
These immigrants are not here to eat your dogs or cats, and they come with skills. In many cases, skills which many US citizens do not possess.
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Doctor Loyal
Not here to eat your dogs or cats, right !!! Then why are these "INCIDENTS" appearing on AP releases ???
We don't need Illegals. If you want to live here, do it LEGALLY !!! Get a VISA, Get your Citizenship !!! Nobody is stopping you from being in the US LEGALLY but your own refusal to become Citizens !! Illegals are breaking the Law, breaking the law is Criminal Behavior, aiding and abetting criminals is Illegal and criminal behavior. The REFUSAL to acquire citizenship, assimilate, and continued use of Taxpayer dollars to support Illegals must stop. Thousands of Americans on fixed incomes are losing their homes because their income isn't enough to support Free housing, Free Food, Free medical, and Welfare for ILLEGALS !!!
Thanks for supporting Illegals that Rape, Murder, Smuggle Drugs, and Assault American Citizens !! False Compassion is an injury to those in America like Homeless Veterans living on park benches, but you are too busy supporting unwanted CRIMINALS to consider helping America first !!!
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Rev. Miche'al Yosef Dixon
The whole point of the article if you bothered to read it is the Nun is "Legally" here. She did follow the law and still harassed by the ICE agents. Why didn't they arrest her without warning, yet my white brother's wife from Indonesia they politely sent a summons in the mail appear in court and bring her papers. My half sister who's mother was a legal immigrant from Mexico and she was born in Mesa, Arizona 1973 was just arrested like the nun and deported to Mexico.
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Jon M Krawchuk
We DO need these people. They work , pay taxes , buy houses , raise families , commit crimes at a far far lower average than Americans and do the work that lazy Americans just won't
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Michael Hunt
"Then why are these "INCIDENTS" appearing on AP releases ???"
They're not. They've been thoroughly debunked.
https://www.cato.org/blog/texas-crime-data-haitian-pet-eating-claims
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-police-dispute-new-allegations-immigrants-are-eating-pets-in-dayton/
https://abcnews.com/Politics/vance-false-claims-haitian-migrants-after-aide-told/story?id=113821189
"If you want to live here, do it LEGALLY !!! Get a VISA, Get your Citizenship !!! Nobody is stopping you from being in the US LEGALLY but your own refusal to become Citizens !!"
The overwhelming majority of undocumented immigrants want to be here legally but our broken immigration system has made it extremely difficult for people from certain countries to do so. Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for state provided benefits like welfare or EBT. Immigrants in America, regardless of legal status, are significantly less likely to commit crimes than natural born US citizens.
What evidence do you have to support your claims?
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Ben
Yep. Illegals do not belong here.
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Rev. Matthew Mastrogiovanni
You do realize that being undocumented is a minor offence, on par with a parking ticket ... right?
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Doctor Loyal
So, you are hedging your bets ?? What part of illegal, whether it is either Minor or Major is ACCEPTABLE? It's murder, so that's bad followed it's only a little illegal is something you find to be acceptable ?? Your Ethics and Morals are not to be bent by the degree of infraction, as, bottom line, Illegal Is Still Illegal. Your sophistry that it was only a minor infraction is disgusting and your lack of ethics or Morals is as Reprehensible, even if it "Only a little bit ILLEGAL !!!
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Michael Hunt
Hedging bets? What?
Do you always adhere to the speed limit when driving or do you go over the limit from time to time? If you go over, you're just as much a criminal as undocumented immigrants. Should you be thrown into a dilapidated detainment center and subjected to mental and physical abuse for speeding?
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Doctor Loyal
I'm anal-retentive and drive the posted limit. Often in congested areas or weather related conditions, I drive under the posted limit.
You are missing the entire ethical and moral point: A criminal is an individual who has committed an act prohibited by law, or who has been formally convicted of a crime. As an adjective, the term describes actions, behaviors, or systems related to illegal activities and violations of the law. This is, by definition of "Criminal" as defined in the Dictionary. Your Sophistry does NOT excuse Criminal or Illegal behavior. If one acts as a Criminal, they should expect to be treated as a Criminal.
How many years have these people had to become legal Citizens and ignore that benefit? There is NO EXCUSE except lack of morals or lack of ethics.
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Michael Hunt
I'm gonna copy/paste a comment I made a few days ago replying to a different comment of yours to make this easier for me.
There are plenty of obstacles for people trying to immigrate to the US. It's a very long, difficult process that the majority of undocumented immigrants want to go through. They pay more in taxes than they receive in government benefits since they are not eligible for things like welfare as undocumented immigrants. These people are by no means refusing to become citizens, they actually do want to become legal residents but so many are denied that opportunity for a multitude of reasons. Please take the time to educate yourself more on the US immigration process.
https://carnegie.org/article/how-people-immigrate-legally-to-the-us/
https://www.superlawyers.com/resources/immigration/how-hard-is-it-to-legally-immigrate-to-the-us/
https://cmsny.org/undocumented-eligible-to-naturalize-population-democratizing-data-release-080421/
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/why-dont-they-just-get-line/
Now to get back to the original topic.
Illegally residing in the US is the same class of misdemeanor as crimes such as driving 26 to 34 mph over the posted speed limit, criminal trespass, public intoxication, and obstruction of traffic. Penalties for class b misdemeanors is up to 180 days in jail and as much as a $2000 fine depending on the state. Our current administration is treating the people in ICE detention facilities worse than dogs, to paraphrase a quote from someone who was released from a facility.
The moral and ethical point you are missing is that the way ICE is treating people who have committed a class b misdemeanor is immoral, unethical, and should be considered cruel and unusual punishment barred by the US Constitution. Yes, it is illegal to be here without legal documentation but calling them criminals while failing to recognize that drivers who speed excessively would also have to be considered criminals is the point Rev. Matthew is making.
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Doctor Loyal
As a matter of fact, legally speaking, those that break laws are legally called Criminals !!! The laws they break make them qualified to be called Criminals. The percentage of harm they cause may vary, from a jaywalking infraction, to a mass murder, but if one breaks the law, they are, in FACT Legally CRIMINALS !!!
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Michael Hunt
I'm not arguing about the legal definition of "criminal," I'm pointing out the drastically different punishments being given to undocumented immigrants for their crime compared to those who commit the same level of offense. If the only criteria for being considered a criminal is having broken any law, I'd have to imagine that the vast majority of residents in the US would also be criminals for one violation or another.
We both agree that a jaywalker and a murderer are not the same kind of criminal, right?
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Doctor Loyal
Hi, Heavenly Father, I admit what I did was a Sin, but you know, it was only a minor sin.
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Katie Yvonne Grogan
Are you serious? she is not a undocumented immigrant.
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Doctor Loyal
I disagree.
The Idiot Agents that Accosted Sister Letty are moronic Agents that overstepped their authority. They are the Issue, NOT the Agency that hired those maroons !!!
Don't throw out the cow because your milk went bad !!!
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Stephanie A Willey
The agency ICE is the problem because they hired those morons, never properly trained them. and continue to support their agent's inhuman and unlawful actions.
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Doctor Loyal
I see, you blame the Agency for the acts of a few. Well then, All Cops are crooked even if it is only one or two out of tens of thousands. Is your favorite argument about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
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Michael Hunt
I mean if the one or two crooked cops are being protected by the rest of the cops and allowed to continue being crooked cops, then all of those cops are crooked. If the system ICE agents are part of is not training them properly or holding them accountable for their actions, the whole agency is part of the problem.
It also isn't just a few acts that are problematic. Across the country, ICE agents are denying people their civil rights, racially targeting anyone who looks like they might be an immigrant, and there have been numerous deaths at the hands of ICE agents both on the street and in detention facilities. Despite this, DHS has done nothing to reform or improve ICE operations.
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Doctor Loyal
Just a note: The idiots that detained the Nun were racial profiling. That practice is frowned upon by the vast majority of all LEOs and to blame the Organization for the act of a couple of overzealous morons is a knee-jerk reflex, not an actual thoughtful response.
It would be like seeing an alcoholic priest that steals the sacramental wine to become intoxicated, and stating, "That Church is BAD, because that Priest is a drunk.
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Michael Hunt
Unfortunately, racial profiling is not frowned upon by ICE under our current administration as it should be. Racial profiling instances are rampant under current ICE leadership and the Supreme Court has even ruled, in a baffling decision, that ICE can racially profile people for potential targets and stop them simply for the color of their skin. This has lead to countless legal residents and US citizens being stopped and targeted by ICE with many instances of legal residents and citizens being wrongly detained.
If this was just a few cases of a handful of agents racially profiling and those agents were dismissed from service, ICE as an organization wouldn't be shouldering the blame. The extent to which it is happening without any consequences for the agents makes this an organizational issue, not just an issue of a few "bad apples."
www.aclu-wi.org/news/racial-profiling-rampant-after-supreme-court-ruling/
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/we-documented-1200-actions-by-ice-heres-what-we-found
Also, if the priest who was in charge of a church was constantly drunk and stealing sacramental wine, I would call that a bad church. I wouldn't say the entire religion is bad, unless there was a pattern of numerous priests also doing the same thing.
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Doctor Loyal
Just a note: The idiots that detained the Nun were racial profiling. That practice is frowned upon by the vast majority of all LEOs and to blame the Organization for the act of a couple of overzealous morons is a knee-jerk reflex, not an actual thoughtful response.
It would be like seeing an alcoholic priest that steals the sacramental wine to become intoxicated, and stating, "That Church is BAD, because that Priest is a drunk.
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Dr Dennis Chevalier, MDiv, PhD, DDvin, ULC honorary DD
Fully agree!
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Sir Lionheart
Propogander, and misinformation, Mr Ford, can be brutal…. right? It’s amazing what people want to believe and how far they will go out of their way to find newsprint and media to feed their confirmation bias.
Let’s hope we can top Obama’s approximate 3 million deportations of illegal aliens, if only to help our own unemployed American citizens looking for work.
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Sad that the Sister had to get caught up in the system because she forgot her papers. It made her look like an illegal and ICE is there to pick them up for deportation. Medication most likely hard to get if needed. Foreigners and Americans should always carry ID &/or documentation on them at all times. Even if Americans have a medical issue or accident the hospital will look for identification. So it is necessary. Glad the Sister straightened out the red tape and is back at home. ✝️🙏🏻💜