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60% of Americans would be willing to vote for an atheist for president. That's a marked improvement over Gallup's own 2007 poll, which showed only 45% of Americans would vote for an atheist.

An updated Gallup poll released this week has found American voters are becoming ever more comfortable with electing women, gays, socialists - and yes, even atheists.

To the standard question asked every few years (“If your party nominated a generally well-qualified person for president who happened to be _____, would you vote for that person?”) this year's Gallup poll found just about 60% would now consider putting an atheist in the White House, a whole 2 points higher than in 2015, and still well above those who'd support a socialist at 45%.

And while it's clear being an atheist presents less and less of a stigma with every passing poll, it still very much depends who you ask. Among Democrats, a hypothetical atheist candidate would enjoy 69% support, far below the scant 41% approval by would-be Republican voters.

Atheism Ascent

The current batch of 2020 Democratic presidential candidates may take small comfort in the fact that their base, growing increasingly comfortable with the thought of electing a Catholic, Jewish or Muslim candidate, would also gladly support the very young and old alike - something that should put current frontrunners Pete Buttigieg (who is openly gay and under 40) and Bernie Sanders (a 78-year-old Jewish socialist) at ease.

Make no mistake. There's still no openly atheist candidate running for president in 2020. There will, however, be dozens of openly non-religious politicians competing at the state level.

In much the same way that Bernie Sanders has warmed many more Americans to the idea of electing a socialist, it's quite possible that more and more voters will learn there's nothing wrong with entrusting atheists with the task of lawmaking in this country, particularly to counterbalance the rise of conservative Christian political influence, and the idea that God plays favorites when it comes to filling the Oval Office.

But is America truly ready for a God-free White House?

Is Atheism Still an Election Liability?

For all the theoretical leaps and bounds atheists and other diverse candidates have been making in the polls, it must be noted that the openly gay 38-year-old South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg remains an unabashed practicing Episcopalian who regularly prays on the campaign trail, and who leveraged his faith during one Democratic presidential debate to blast Republicans who opposed minimum wage hikes as "so-called" Christians.

And Sanders, reluctant to discuss his Jewish upbringing well into his 2016 campaign, has made his Jewish identity central to his 2020 campaign, if only to reinforce the notion that religious politicians maintain some kind of added moral gravitas.

Even one of the lone atheists currently in Congress, California Rep. Jared Huffman, thinks a candidate’s atheism would still be a liability in a national election. As he told the Guardian, “there still is, at the national political level, this notion that you have to put some kind of faith out there. I’m not saying that anybody’s faking it in the presidential field but there still is this notion that’s one of the threshold things you have to do.” His outlook on any candidates in 2020 or beyond coming out as an atheist? “I think they would suffer withering criticism.”

So while the polls might say one thing, it's clear even the most liberal and Democratic voters still see a place for faith - if not God - in the White House. But with time, that still may change. After all, that same Gallup poll, taken in 2007, had only 45% of Americans willing to vote for an atheist for president.

What do you think? With the rise of the ‘nones’, will we reach a point where 75% of Americans could vote for an atheist? What about 95%?

Will Americans ever fully embrace atheism in politics?

81 comments

  1. William Leon Barfield's Avatar William Leon Barfield

    Religion and politics should be separate issues and should not mix.

    1. Wayward73's Avatar Wayward73

      I wholeheartedly agree with you.

      1. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

        Absolutely out! Of course, presidents will have their personal relationship with God, or not. However to make policy on these beliefs for the country is obscene and dangerous. Example: the abortion controversy. This is a religious matter. A question at best. Anyone heard of the Taliban? Their religious mission is based on destroying the infidels. This is a "slippery slope".

  1. Tabitha's Avatar Tabitha

    I was asked to sell my soul one time..... but I couldn’t stomach being a Christian or a Republican, and had to refuse

    1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

      You can be neither. Others here have offer their souls, so long as someone ELSE is getting screwed.

      (I'll assume your /S/.)

  1. Donald Walter Schmidt's Avatar Donald Walter Schmidt

    It is evident by the result of the 2016 presidential election that Americans DO NOT want God in the White House.

    1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

      2016? Think so?

      I'd say it seems they wanted God. The president touted his faith and religion and people bought the ruse and voted him in. And now over the last 3 years the nation has seen this president's true colors and it has swung the other way. The overreaction is not good either.

      Sadly what most seem to miss is that this president isn't as pious or religious as he proclaims. Quite the contrary, rude, vulgar, insincerity from a sad and pathetic human being. What his followers like is the divisiveness, the vengeful retribution against what they perceive as a unfair world.

      As stated elsewhere here, President Carter wasn't an effective leader of the country, but then he wasn't wantonly corrupt and deceitful either. He was a good and faithful man, just not a dynamic leader. Well, we have a dynamic leader now. And it's not coming cheap.

      1. Wayward73's Avatar Wayward73

        We the people don't elect the President, The Electoral College(a committee of The House of Representatives) does.

  1. Paul J. Fumero's Avatar Paul J. Fumero

    I want religion out of politics or lose their tax free status and be forced to register as a political party, I specifically want the Evangelicals making trouble for everybody.out of public life and politics.

    1. David A Griffith's Avatar David A Griffith

      I am with you all the way. Religion is destroying this country with their backward ideas. Every time in history things are beginning to change for the better the Christians have fought it. It says a lot about why Republicans are so intent on fighting progress and progressives.

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    I don't think it matters whether or not a president has religious beliefs, but do believe in keeping religion out of our government. Since a lot of religious politicians seem to have a hard time doing that I think it would be certainly worth having an atheist president for a change, at least to see what a difference it makes.

    1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

      Do you mean agnostic over atheist? Hmmm, "an atheist president for a change"? But I thought.... Well, I guess there's a difference in an atheist president and an agnostic that claims to believe in a god just to get votes.

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  1. Robert H Donahue's Avatar Robert H Donahue

    I don't believe you can show any correlation between one's Christian values and success in the White House. Arguably the most devoutly Christian to serve in the White House in recent decades was Jimmy Carter. He is also generally seen as one of the most ineffective Presidents. There is no correlation, so it really doesn't matter what the President's personal religious beliefs are.

    1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

      Agreed. Nor their political ideology it seems. Personal character appears to be one prominent determining factor.

  1. Minister Carlos Ricardo Walls's Avatar Minister Carlos Ricardo Walls

    I read where God dwells in people.So God is everywhere.Although some choose not to tap into the God within.

  1. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

    I don't mind if God visits the White House. Or even moves in. I'd like to see the elected resident live by Jesus' teachings - not try to foist Christianity or any other religion on others.

  1. Rev. Sandy's Avatar Rev. Sandy

    Right now the devil is in the White House who thinks he is god. So God is most welcome to bring back some decency, morals and values back to America.

    1. Robert Edward Szekely's Avatar Robert Edward Szekely

      Since Nietschze, there has been recognition of increasing secularism in Western culture and society. Presently, we're also finding that spiritual traditions and religiosity are becoming increasingly more diverse with the growth of New Religious Movements such as Wicca, LaVeyan and Deistic Satanists, as well as non-denominational Christians, Unitarian Universalism, Gnosticism, Messianic Jews, Hasidim, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Taoists, Zoroastrians, Baha'i, Asatru, Pantheism, etc. Among the Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson was a supporter of people worshipping according the personal dictates of their conscience, whatever that may be: I will add to that, as long the doctrines of their particular tradition or sect doesn't entail the causing harm to others, such as slaying infidels, murdering abortion clinic doctors, or treating certain groups of people as 'less than human' or 'less equal or worthy than others' such as those belonging within the LGBTQI+ group by denying them service. While we remain free to worship, the legislature--regardless of at what level--does not exist to force the religious dogma of a prevailing group over that of a minority group: for example Sunday Blue Laws or trying to outlaw abortion. If your creed tells you that abortion is wrong, then that applies to you personally. We do not have the right to impose those notions which are based upon any specific religious doctrine through the legal system, upon a group which is comprised of individuals who, can we say, are "spiritually heterogeneous". That group is the American Nation. America is not a theocracy. Christian values and ethics are not what constitute the foundation of our legal system. We are obligated to establish and cement that common ground that serves all American citizens well, and not only those of a specific creed. That is exactly what many of the initial settlers fled Mother England for--freedom of worship. We therefore, cannot now establish merely another flavor of state-endorsed faith and give the official imprimateur of American: for that is not what America stands for. We must remember the true, and original motto of our nation, before we we let our hysterical fear of so-called "godless" Communism overtake us (during the reign of the USSR, the East Orthodox church thrived underground): "E Pluribus Unum" (From Many, One). An atheist President will serve only reason - which is the only philosophical common ground that we as Americans can ever truly expect to have.

    2. Jim's Avatar Jim

      Yea like Schiff and Nancy are righteous. I don't like the man in the white house either but I like where he has taken the country. At least he has put America First and its about time someone did.

      1. Robert Edward Szekely's Avatar Robert Edward Szekely

        Trump borders on fascism. I'd watch him closely, as I'm waiting for him to snap.

      2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        I totally agree with you Jim. He is possibly getting very close to godlike status with his achievements don’t you think? And better still, unlike all the gods, he actually shows up for us.

        🦁❤️

        1. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

          OMG

      3. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

        You sound Caucasian.

    3. The Rev. Dr. Marion Ceruti's Avatar The Rev. Dr. Marion Ceruti

      I love this president. He has under promised and over delivered. He has promised to put originalists on SCOTUS but he also has appointed over 180 originalist judges to the district courts and circuit courts of appeals. He promised to move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem but he also recognized Israel's right to the Golan Heights. He promised to improve the energy sector of the economy but now the US is energy independent and even exports coal and natural gas. He stands up for ordinary people, especially our veterans, and, above all, he loves God and America. He defends the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Office of the Presidency. He has accomplished an astonishing array of excellent improvements in the USA and in other countries, in spite of a constant stream of hatred and unprecedented opposition from the far left. If we love God, we should also love our fellow Americans as brothers and sisters. In fact, we should love all people. God is love and love is God. Although God fills all space, we find Him by searching within. Therefore, God is in the Whitehouse helping and guiding our president whether we know it or not, and whether we like it or not. During this Presidents Day season, we should take some time to reflect on how much better the USA is now than it was three years ago. Then we can offer our prayer of thanks to God for his multitude of blessings, including our blessed President Trump. Peace be with you and all our fellow ministers.

      1. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

        You, of course, have the right to be wrong.

        The current president of the United States has made the entire country to be perceived as hateful, bigoted, greedy, and selfish - not something your jesus would be proud of.

      2. Asa William Sprague, II's Avatar Asa William Sprague, II

        "God is love and love is God. Although God fills all space, we find Him by searching within. Therefore, God is in the Whitehouse helping and guiding our president whether we know it or not, and whether we like it or not."

        Are you implying that God guided this Administration to separate children from their parents and place them in cages? That does not sound like Love. Are you implying that God guided this President to tell over 10,000 lies over the past three years? That does not sound like Love. Are you implying that God guided this President into cursing at his enemies during a national prayer breakfast? Mathew 5:44 (KJV) - But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

        1. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

          I really need to share Matthew 25:27-40

          37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

          40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

          I'm not confused about what I see. I see nothing but an attitude of evil.

      3. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

        ...unless you are: 1) Brown skinned 2) Enlightened 3) The lower 80% of the economic strata 4) LGBTQ 5) Muslim 6) Just plain old

        Then you can't all die and burn in hell soon enough.

        You stand in the light of God's Grace Reverend. I'm sure.

    4. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

      AMEN

  1. Karl Axel Lindstr's Avatar Karl Axel Lindstr

    religion has no place in politics! it always leads to bad things in the end! Also incidentally the it always strikes me as funny when people try to insist the US is a christian country... states are boring! you don't wanna associate your religion with that....

    Sweden at least had Christianity as a state religion for a long time... and as a result swedes are almost all atheists... because its not interesting!!! religious freedom l means religions can compete and evolve and adapt themselves better to their believers... with a state religion all you get is stagnation...

    it's a pity the French inquisition expunged most of the Gnostic cults because they would have fit much better into modern society...

  1. Robert Scott Jackson's Avatar Robert Scott Jackson

    Keep religion out of politics out of our public schools. The right wing religious people in the country want nothing but power and money. They bomb people and tell us its for our own good.

  1. Rev. Jonathan Peebles's Avatar Rev. Jonathan Peebles

    I am still waiting for the woman president the others just want war. We need a real change not someone who just preaches about it and its all lies. I hope we do get a president who keeps religion out of it; besides I doubt I will ever see a nature loving pagan in office sadly...

  1. Hazel Diane Graep's Avatar Hazel Diane Graep

    I don't think religion has any place in the White House. Regardless of whether a person is religious in any affiliation, atheist or anything else, it should not make any difference as long as he or she is capable fulfilling his or her duties as President.

    Having religion in the White House always ends up respecting the establishment of one religion over all others. the present administration is trying to force its conservative religious views on everyone else.

    Whenever I hear someone say they believe in freedom of religion, I always ask them "Whose religion? Yours? Or other religions also?" There is a reason there is separation of church and state in the Constitution. I for one don't want someone else's religion crammed down my throat.

  1. Anthony Turan Romus Fountaine's Avatar Anthony Turan Romus Fountaine

    We have a non- believer in the white house in the name of donald trump! His behavior and rhetoric is that of the anti-Christ!

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      As long as he keeps the country heading in the right direction and getting it back on its feet I’m all for the antichrist 😇

      🦁❤️

    2. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

      Well, I'm not sure of the "anti-Christ", so let's just say a non-believer. However, as one Lionheart has stated there are many presently that are also faithless and seemingly only care for their own personal gains. Which I'm sure you feel is un-Christian. Jesus said, in not so many words, that we must love and care for each other. Obviously such is not taken universally(insert slight chuckle here). Let me ask you, do you think the world is getting more, same or less violent? Answer first then proceed-----------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^>>>>>>

      <<<==. Ok. So by chance I came across a documentary on that question. And surprisingly(to me) studies show it is getting less violent. Why? More people. Back when civilization(ahem) in the ten's of millions, much of humanity was fighting - simply we were savages, all. But as population expanded the greater and greater masses became more civilized realizing working WITH others is better that killing, warring and TAKING from others. Any guess at to the greatest kill-off of humankind by humankind? Genghis Kahn! Best estimate, 10 million people. Million, with a M!(That phrase doesn't work like it being said verbally.) World War II was big but not compared to the total population of earth in the 1940s.

      So why all this jibber-jabber? We, the good guys, sane, peaceful, honest and people like you and me outnumber the "other" types by billions(yup a B !) and we can make this all good. But we have to do something. Jibber-jabber here and comment boxes at news sites and social media is fine for information but we must follow this with action. So, I suggest, go talk with people. Talk with you neighbor, your cousin, the barista that hands you your coffee. And only those that feel as you do, that all this is just too weird. You are not trying to turn the other, and definitely not the whacky-ola that thinks a 1911 is the answer to the "commie-socialists" infecting their country. Your purpose from now to November is to get them to the polls and vote(Make sure they're registered, legal, yada-yada.). That's all there is to it. Get them to talk about "us" and not "I". Anyone telling you their 401k is gangbusters, tell them an old woman is losing her Medicare, or a kid eats peanut butter sandwiches because single mom can't afford a hot school lunch. One getting while another doesn't is called a zero sum game - lose one to get one.

      Remember: WE OUTNUMBER THEM!

      Have a blessed week.

  1. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

    And, again, why are all my comments being held for approval?

    1. Dave J's Avatar Dave J

      Probably because Chaplain Burgess complained that you are making him look like a repetitive whiner.

      1. Chaplain Burgess 's Avatar Chaplain Burgess

        Nope, like most people who will swallow anything blame someone without any evidence. It's a public discourse! I love the debates. Sweetie!

      2. Chaplain Burgess 's Avatar Chaplain Burgess

        NOPE! Unlike you sir I know of what I speak and stand outside of group approval proudly! FAKE NEWS

      3. Chaplain Burgess 's Avatar Chaplain Burgess

        Nope you are publicly incorrect. Don't worship that man Dave!

      4. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

        Dave, how does one report posts/posters?

        1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

          A while back I prayed to God for this very same thing. God said send an email to themonastery.org

    2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Don't be a crybaby., Mike. They've been moderating all of my comments for years, and I never complain. This isn't a free for all. I'm glad any of mine ever get posted.

  1. arawngraalrd's Avatar arawngraalrd

    What people perceive as a "Higher Power," is not such a big deal, as whether a person credits that there might be a higher power. I support friendly relations between God and the Wu-Wei, but that's hardly a conversation for the campaign trail.

  1. flugo's Avatar flugo

    God IS in the White House! He's omnipresent. His short term and long range plans are precisely coming to pass as He sees fit. NO one can thwart Him! We best acknowledge His perfect supremacy and dominion over ALL!

    1. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

      But which god? There are a multitude of them, ya' know.

      And which plans. Give us at least one short and one long term plan.

      1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

        But which god? "

        "Polytheism, the belief in many gods. Polytheism characterizes virtually all religions other than 𝑱𝒖𝒅𝒂𝒊𝒔𝒎, 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒂𝒏𝒊𝒕𝒚, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑰𝒔𝒍𝒂𝒎, which share a common tradition of monotheism, the belief in one God." -- Britannica

        I assume you are not a minister of any of these?

    2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Flugo, domination and submission is only a game to be played in the bedroom. And who wants God to take part in that? Sounds kind of kinky, doesn't it?

      1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        Oh my God! Oh my God! Can actually be heard from many bedrooms Carl. So I can only assume that many people actually do take their God with them when they go to sleep 🤪

        🦁❤️

    3. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Not more than one spirit can inhabit a body at the same time,flugo, unless they first meld together into one. Any Witch will tell you that. Good and evil are opposites, so they can't meld together, although within ourselves, like everything else, it's best to maintain a healthy balance between the two, according to the Kybalion of Hermes Trismegistus by three initiates, which Hermes spoke of long before the Bible was written. I, and many others would say that the one in the oval office right now is iether posessed by an evil entity, or is evil personified. Therefore, in the same place, at the same time, God cannot be present. That is universal law, which The All (God( Good Orderly Direction) created, and cannot oppose.

      1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

        Is the god of Moses and the god of Abraham the same god? If they are the same, is one good and the other evil? If they are not the same, is one good and the other evil? If they are the same, and they are both good, can they not inhabit my body at the same time? If they are not the same, and they are both good, can they not inhabit my body at the same time?

    4. Edwin Howard Brubeck's Avatar Edwin Howard Brubeck

      Are you saying 45 is God?????

      1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        I’m actually not too sure what a God really is, but looking at the results that President Trump has achieved so far in his last four years I would say he’s getting pretty close to it. At least he shows up and tries to do something, which is more than any gods seem to be able to do. Just saying!

        🦁❤️

        1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

          Interesting. From what I've read about him the last 20 years, and seen the last 3, Satan comes to mind. At the very least, a degenerate.

          1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

            He is a strange character to say the least, but he seems to be doing a very good job of getting the country back on its feet.

            I guess it’s Hail Satan then 🤪

            🦁❤️

            1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

              More appropriately, Heil Trump.

              For a sad and lonely little man you at least realize you have no concept.

              Grace upon you. From the unknown.

              1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                I’m wondering if you are referring to Donald Trump, or myself. He is like me, well over 6 feet tall, and neither of us are lonely as we both have wonderful attractive wives and families.

                This November is going to be very interesting isn’t it? If we do have another 4 years of our current President, which I strongly suspect we will, it’s going to be very interesting to see how Democrats deal with it. That is of course if they can!

                It actually seems to me that Democrats have no concept, as evidenced by Pelosi, Sanders, Warren, Schumer, Schiff, the squad etc, but I guess we’ll find out in November.

                🦁❤️

                1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

                  I said little, not short. And you are in fact much alike to Mr. Trump, wives and relations aside, more in character and demeanor.

                  You equate your marriage and offspring as a measure of loneliness? Interesting. Lonely is an emotion not a situational circumstance as in your lifestyle - I have therefore I am. I knew a man, married to a loving and caring woman for decades with 3 beautiful daughters. The wife died of cancer, he drank himself to death within a year and left 3 teenage children to fend for themselves. I count as blessings Christians, Krishna and Buddhist monks that I've met that were single or otherwise celibate that were quite happy.

                  I don't know your life, however I read in your numerous posts a sense of angst and frustration. Not quite hate but a disdain, in particular for anyone that finds comfort in their faith. And you spare no inch in your vitriol to disparage not just the person, the individual, you tear at their beliefs. With seeming delight you savage the very fabric that holds them together, in heart, in mind and soul. You diminish their God as so much trash and them as fools. One wonders why you chose this website to haunt its visitors.

                  What I hope for you, that you find comfort and peace, and not dread in your life.

                  Take care

                  1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                    You actually couldn’t be more wrong. I have no problem at all with people having the beliefs that they obviously need to help them get through this life. I am totally happy for those people who need religion and it’s not my intention to try and take them away from their belief. However, when people with those beliefs structures start quoting passages and sentences from an old book in a vein attempt to prove everyone else wrong, some even telling people they will go to Hell if they don’t take upon them the name of someone they call a savior I will chime in with my comments and rebut their claims. I’m sorry you read in my posts a sense of angst and frustration. Again, nothing could be further from the truth. I enjoy reading peoples comments even though they may disagree with mine because we are all on some type of path to get through this life as lovingly as possible.

                    What I hope for you is that you find comfort and peace, and especially freedom of thought when you read my comments, and other peoples comments, that do not agree with yours.

                    🦁❤️

                    1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

                      “ You actually couldn’t be more wrong. I have no problem at all with people having the beliefs that they obviously need to help them get through this life.“

                      Add condescending to the list. One of the disappointments of chatting through comment boxes is the lack of originality. When I say something to someone it’s bounced back to me, e.g. … comfort and peace. It is like talking to myself which is neither stimulating no fun. In the future I will make a greater attempt to tolerate your comments and refrain from interjecting on your beliefs. Good day

            2. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

              There's a whole lot more to life than $$.
              Children in cages who have been charged with nothing more than breathing air in the US.

              Turning his back on the validity of climate change, lying every day. I can't believe anything he says. This is not a president. This is malignant narcissist who places "yes" people around him and fires the ones who don't. We have someone who believes he is an actor wearing makeup and eye brightener. I'm 75 and remember presidents back to Eisenhower. He is neither fit or sufficiently mature to be in this high place of office. I can't put money over common humanity and morality.

              Just my opinion. I'm not asking anyone to agree. Thanks.

              1. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

                PS I'm still amazed how Christians believe this is okay. Money before humanity?

              2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Did you know that so far 1900 children have been separated from parents at the border under President Trump.

                RESULT: Media Frenzy.

                Under President Obama 89,000 children were separated from parents at the border.

                RESULT: Silence.

                Have you ever wondered why there are no Democrats on Mount Rushmore?

                ME NEITHER

                🦁❤️

                1. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

                  89,000? Wonder if they were in cages or ever found their families? At my age I hear more things everyday. Back to Obama rather than trying to avoid Trump's actions. Lionheart, Where is evidence of your claims? Whatever, it doesn't have anything to do with Obama.

                  If what Obama did is your defense against Trump, you have no defense.

                  1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                    Every administration has to deal with the previous administrations policies/legacies. It will never be any different.

                    Here you will see how and why it was necessary to build what the media would like to call “cages”. Notice the left wing media preferred not to call them cages under Obama’s administration.

                    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/baracks-ice-chief-cages-were-obamas-idea

                    🦁❤️

            3. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

              I'm 75. I didn't know the country was off it's feet before he got in. He is the antithesis of goodness and mercy. MAGA was a ploy to have people BELIEVE it was true.

  1. Roy C. Wilson's Avatar Roy C. Wilson

    I am disgusted by some here posting their partison political viewpoints. I don't believe that this is in the framework of the comprehensive inclusion of "all children of the same universe". It is also somewhat repulsive to see some engaged in partison religion here. Is this really what we want our Universal Life Church to engage in? I believe that it would destroy us.

    Please go and wave your flags and symbols elsewhere. This church is ment to include all, atheists and believers of every persuasion.

    1. Roy C. Wilson's Avatar Roy C. Wilson

      I forgot to add that I vote for issues not the person.

    2. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

      Mr. Wilson, I read somewhere about false prophets. Find some comfort in that.

    3. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

      Is there a ULC rule that we must agree with each other?

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    I don't agree with you Mike. I bet that will get posted. Keep guessing. One of these days you might figure it out, or you might simply accept it.

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    And if you think moderation is something Mike, try guessing where they're going to put your comment, if they do post it.

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    It all boils down to one thing. Christianity sucks!!!

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      I think I would go a little further and remove the word “Christianity” and replace it with “religion”.

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    2. Chaplain Burgess 's Avatar Chaplain Burgess

      Religion divides! Spirituality brings us together! Debate is healthy!

  1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

    Do you mean agnostic over atheist? Hmmm, "an atheist president for a change"? But I thought.... Well, I guess there's a difference in an atheist president and an agnostic that claims to believe in a god just to get votes.

  1. Richard Lee Cornell's Avatar Richard Lee Cornell

    Bernie Sanders (a 78-year-old Jewish socialist) has been a die-hard communist most of his life. Since he was from a small State it did not matter. When he is elected as POTUS it will matter. He has made off hand comments about the US military. Bringing them all home. Disbanning their number from service. Bring back the fleet from all over seas stations. When he control Congress he will sign into law, laws that will make him not a President, but a ruler. The Bill of Rights will be rewritten to reflcet Bernie Sanders image of a more just country. All amendments are a option. His Green deal will raise gasoline prices where the average citizens can not afford to travel. Bernie will do everything he can in his first 100 days that will make any other Communist look like a girl scout.

    1. Darryl Mizer's Avatar Darryl Mizer

      Communist all of his life? Point me to your source on this one, please.

  1. Oliver Dmello's Avatar Oliver Dmello

    Kick Jesus away!!!Jesus is not God.Jesus is not the son of God.We don't need Jesus in our lives.To hell with God.To hell with Jesus!!!

  1. Richard Lee Cornell's Avatar Richard Lee Cornell

    One of the staff in the White House is a Sunday school preacher.

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