An immigration officer searching a migrant
Does the Bible support immigration crackdowns? One country singer says no.

A country music star has sparked fresh debate about faith, politics, and compassion with a viral video about the ICE immigration crackdown. In the video, country artist Bryan Andrews publicly criticized the White House’s immigration policies – and called out the Christians who support them.

In passionate posts on Instagram and TikTok, Andrews accused those who support the immigration crackdowns of using religion to justify cruelty toward immigrants. 

He also intimated that you can’t be a Christian and also support family-separating deportations:

“You don’t get to call yourself a Christian and then advocate and f** laugh when families are torn apart outside of courthouses, when people [are] trying to come here the right ways.”*

WARNING: Video contains crude language

Andrews also pointed to reports of ICE raids and court rulings that have allowed agents greater leeway in targeting undocumented people. 

“You don’t get to call yourself a Christian, and then think it’s OK that the highest court in the ***\** land just gave a green light to ICE agents to be able to ********** target people because they are brown or speaking Spanish.”

Public Reaction

The singer’s frustration was aimed not at faith itself, but at what he sees as a distortion of its values. “You are not Christian. You use Christianity as a shield to hide behind when you need to justify the hate that you have scolded into this world,” he continued.

The comments prompted widespread conversations and reactions online about what it means to be Christian and how to reconcile biblical teachings with immigration enforcement. Those questions are also part of an ongoing debate about harsh immigrations policies that has religious communities deeply divided

Online, his candor struck a chord. Thousands praised his courage, including actor Mark Ruffalo, who commented: “you crushed the lies of this administration and the Anti-Christian movement that supports it. Your song is f** great and it’s part of a long line of other artists who have used their music to stand up for the values of this nation.

“Country music finally finding its protest voice again.. been a long road since Johnny Cash,” another user wrote:

Naturally, not everyone agreed with his message. Some critics even called for a boycott of the musician: 

Yesterday, Andrews followed up with a statement about the reactions to his comments, saying “I stand by every word I said.” 

What is your reaction?

88 comments

  1. Walter J. Holbrook's Avatar Walter J. Holbrook

    ICE. The Gestapo police of America

  1. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

    I must repeat, come to the USA Legally !

    My ICE training, my ICE experience, and my ICE knowledge, comes from NYC.

    I can not speak about the rest of the USA.

    If people do not like ICE, then change the Immigration Laws.

    Since liberal democrats, claim to have the majority of the will of the people, then use that political power, to make political changes.

    Do not violently or physically interfere with ICE enforcement practices.

  1. Leslie A. Hulberg Née Tomasura's Avatar Leslie A. Hulberg Née Tomasura

    Not in my book. It might be the beginning of a horror, and a biblical catastrophe of epic proportions. But I can’t imagine any words of any prophet that wasn’t a mouthpiece for an evil regime to believe that a supposed loving deity would ever think the mistreatment of that deity’s own creation is a good thing. If one follows a faith based on a Christian bible’s teachings, there is no possible interpretation that would call it good works. Or doing God’s work. And FYI, you can’t possibly do God’s work. You aren’t qualified. God does his own work. The only work man or woman is doing is their own work for their own benefit and not praising a deity by oppressing others who do not fit what different sects of humans believe is wrong, or different. That is just the lie they tell themselves so they can feel good about the harm they are causing to others who don’t look like them, live like them, love like them, or believe what they believe. If anything, it seems opposite of what the teachings of the Bible are saying. Nowhere does it say oppress others who are not like you. It does however say, you will be accountable for your sins. You are not accountable for the sins of others, so leave everyone else to live the life they choose to live and you focus on the life you are living and worship the deity you choose to worship. We are supposedly all made in god’s image according to the Bible teachings, and if god is supposedly infallible, how does one justify our differences? God had either made everyone different and wants them to find their own relationship with him or to deny him and supposedly, we were given a choice by god. If the infallible god has given humanity choice, how can humans not also allow others to choose on their own? Are you better than god? Or has the infallible god made a mistake? Humanity has no right to tell anyone what they can or cannot do (so long as they are not physically harming others)? All we can do is keep our own morality personal relationship with our faith’s deity and not worry about what the rest of the universe is doing. They have their own personal relationship with life. And their choices and their faith to do what they believe is acceptable to their deity. But regardless of whether or not we believe in a deity, no person or government has a right to abuse anyone at any time.

  1. Brian Scott Hoff's Avatar Brian Scott Hoff

    While I am an atheist I believe the country music singer is correct in calling out the supposed "christians" who seem to strongly support the rather ruthless, intimidating, and poorly executed detention of people accused of being here illegally. I have read the bible three times in my life (cover to cover) as well as in the bits & pieces that churches do on Sundays and at Bible classes. For those that disagree I strongly suggest they read all the RED WORDS in the bible. The lines that apparently quote Jesus himself. I find a great deal of wisdom in these words (not all, but quite a bit). And.. nowhere would it seem that Jesus is teaching us to behave in this manner. Far from it.

  1. Michael Jeffrey Starke's Avatar Michael Jeffrey Starke

    I'm not mad at ICE. They are enforcing the laws that Congress makes after many years of ignoring them. Make our politicians change the laws. It wasn't anymore just in the past when some were allowed to disobey immigration laws, some weren't and others were required to go the long, expensive route of becoming a citizen. We need to have the same set of laws that cover everybody equally.

    1. Brian Scott Hoff's Avatar Brian Scott Hoff

      I'm not mad at ICE?? That's what you just said. So there's nothing unsettling to you in regards to how they are carrying out their apprehensions of people who have not yet been proven guilty? You do actually watch the 1000's of videos that exist that show ICE's methods & behaviors during many of these apprehensions, correct? If you have not.. why not? And.. why would you choose to say your are not mad at them if you are ignorant to what they are doing? The story is about Christian behavior. Are you a Christian? If so, please explain ICE's methods, strategies, and behaviors and how that fits into the teachings of Jesus?

  1. Edwin Wilfred Mckinney's Avatar Edwin Wilfred Mckinney

    lets say this.............................and everyone knows....................you must have all visas and paper work entering countries to stay, visit and anything else.......................if your here in the corporation of united states, fill out the paper work legally and reshape the laws...

    1. Brian Scott Hoff's Avatar Brian Scott Hoff

      "if your here in the corporation of united states".. you do know we're a Country... not a corporation. Or.. you may be like Trump who is doing what he can to wreck this country and sort of create a corporation where he's the main wheeler / dealer and he plans on being the CEO for life. Besides.. the story is about what Christian's believe is correct in regards to the bible and how that applies to ICE's current behaviors, methods, and strategies. You didn't bother to comment on that. Why?

  1. Lion on the Beach's Avatar Lion on the Beach

    Amazing. The worded protection here by some for criminals, rapists, pedophiles, human traffickers, larcenists, carjackers, murderers, drug traffickers, drug sellers, sellers of firearms, gang affiliated individuals, not to mention having several court dates they have refused attend or the laws of this country they refuse to honor. If these criminals are being separated from anything, that thing can follow them. If the individuals on here defending these cretons would so, choose which among you would allow them near your children, grandchildren. loved ones or would you sponsor them in your home? As for the irrelevant singer's sonata for the illegals so called rights, it's 15 minutes of fame is up.

    1. Robert Thurber's Avatar Robert Thurber

      Jeffery Epstein

    2. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

      Your painting of immigrants as, "criminals, rapists, pedophiles, human traffickers, larcenists, carjackers, murderers, drug traffickers, drug sellers, sellers of firearms, gang affiliated individuals" is gross. That's straight racism/xenophobia. Currently the largest group in ICE detention are those with no criminal record. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/26/immigrants-criminal-record-ice-detention

      1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

        Michael Hunt what I love is that MAGA says criminals are all the things that you mentioned, and then in the next breath say that immigrants are stealing our jobs.

  1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

    Wow, the anger here is astonishing! Our country has a tradition of protest songs, Woody Guthrie, Dylan, Pete Seeger, Baez, Nina Simone, John Lennon - on and on. And a tradition of pearl-clutching "righties" plugging their ears and saying "Oh my, scary songs!"

  1. Joseph Saffomilla's Avatar Joseph Saffomilla

    Calling this deranged lunitic a star is quite a stretch.

  1. Mark Austin Hanson's Avatar Mark Austin Hanson

    Who is Bryan Andrews?

  1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni
    1. The Corporal Works of Mercy (Rooted in Matthew 25:31–46) These focus on caring for people’s physical needs: Feed the hungry Give drink to the thirsty Clothe the naked Shelter the homeless Visit the sick Visit the imprisoned Bury the dead

    2. The Spiritual Works of Mercy These address spiritual and emotional needs: Instruct the ignorant (teach those seeking knowledge of God) Counsel the doubtful Admonish sinners (with love and humility) Bear wrongs patiently Forgive offenses willingly Comfort the afflicted Pray for the living and the dead

    3. The Fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22–23) Living by the Spirit produces these qualities, which often lead to good works: Love Joy Peace Patience Kindness Goodness Faithfulness Gentleness Self-control

    4. The Two Greatest Commandments (Matthew 22:37–39) Jesus summarized all good works under: Love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. Love your neighbor as yourself.

    5. Examples from Scripture Caring for orphans and widows (James 1:27) Visiting and caring for the sick (Matthew 25:36) Practicing hospitality (Romans 12:13) Generosity and sharing with those in need (Hebrews 13:16) Encouraging and building up others (1 Thessalonians 5:11)

    1. Pastor George Day's Avatar Pastor George Day

      Matthew Mastrogiovanni

      "Love your neighbour as yourself so kill them in the womb"

      Which Bible verse states that?

  1. Tom Herman's Avatar Tom Herman

    In this country due process is the law of the land, or at least I thought it was. Aren't we innocent until proven guilty? We used to be the greatest country in the world where people came for a better life. Many immigrants, legal or otherwise came here to escape abject poverty or death from drug lords or other tensions. Yes, we need to insist on entering the US legally but how do you turn away families who have traveled sometimes thousands of miles to escape death? America is the "melting pot." We should be working to provide citizenship, not punish those who are good people. Our due process system is what makes us great. We are losing sight of that.

    1. Jeffrey Conner's Avatar Jeffrey Conner

      That is until they want to stay at your house..

      1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

        Sure, Jeffrey. Happens all the time.

    2. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      Many of the illegals work for drug lords. Where do we citizens flee to for protection?

      1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

        Please cite sources.

  1. Ari Joseph Bertine's Avatar Ari Joseph Bertine

    Some of y'all missed the part about laughing at the misfortune of families being torn apart, which was the focus of his anger. He even emphasized the laughing part by swearing. The idea of taking genuine pleasure in someone else's misery. Being happy at someone's pain. That's the kernel of this post. Even the article mentions the word "cruelty". Because yes, there are a lot of people online claiming to be Christian and then taking great pleasure in the suffering of people they don't approve of--they are not talking about justice, not talking about safety, they are saying "ha serves them right, look at those tears, haha good". You cannot ignore that attitude if you're discussing this man's post, because that's what he was talking about.

    So answer the question--is it Christian to celebrate another human being's suffering, and take joy in another soul's pain? Is it Christian to be happy that someone's children are sobbing, that a family has been destroyed, that someone will never see their loved ones again? Is it Christian to love hurting someone if they're not your own?

  1. Kevin Patrick Dabbs's Avatar Kevin Patrick Dabbs

    So you can't be a Christian and support deporting illegal immigrants, but you can be a Christian and support illegal immigrants who are convicted felons, how ironic, but just like all libs, say anything to sell a recording and make money,

    1. Stella Monika Brown's Avatar Stella Monika Brown

      https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-deliberations-jury-testimony-verdict-85558c6d08efb434d05b694364470aa0

    2. Jeffrey Conner's Avatar Jeffrey Conner

      Yup!

      1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

        Yeah, all us "libs" are selling recordings - WTF? What are youselling, MAGA baseball caps? Have you noticed how many "convicted felons" have no criminal history other than their color or accent. Beat 'em down now, check it out later! - ICE is no-one's friend, boys.

  1. Marissa Nicole Chandler's Avatar Marissa Nicole Chandler

    All of my life I have had people tell me that "I can't be a Christian if" or "you are going to go to hell because of"! Well, you can't be a Christian if you want to tell people that their personal relationship with Jesus Christ and our Lord God is not what YOU want it to be! Shut up and play your music!

  1. Roy S. Thorpe's Avatar Roy S. Thorpe

    Just men doing a job! Just like Children Services! Quit attaching religion to everything! Judges not!

  1. Robert Thurber's Avatar Robert Thurber

    Most Christians pick and choose the verses that support their personal beliefs. Religion is human. God is not. Judge not lest ye be judged. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

  1. Jeffrey Conner's Avatar Jeffrey Conner

    As a United States Citizen. When you get arrested and detained or sent to prison. You are automatically separated from your family. When you are in our Country illegally you are breaking the Law. And subject to arrest and deportation. By there argument. If I was arrested for whatever. Should my family go to jail/prison with me? No ! The reason the "separate family's" is a battle cry. I because it is the only thing they can come up with to try and justify there leftist view. On people who should not have come here in the first place being allowed to stay. I really is about profit. The money that goes towards them. All of it does not go to them. Everyone down the line gets there own little slice of the pie. That is what the fuss is about in Washington. How else does someone suddenly become a muti millionaire after taking office. Plus there is also the long game. Let them in. Have as many Babies as they can on the tax payer's dime. And in a short 18 years you have a new Democrat. Think that is too long to wait. That is only 3 elections away for the Office of Senator. And this has been happing for how long?

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    1. Patricia Sydney Solis's Avatar Patricia Sydney Solis

      My father was a World War II concentration camp survivor who endured years of family separation as a child. It’s horrific and continues generations of trauma. Amnesty International calls family separation torture on children. What’s even worse? Is that Trump orders indefinite detention for children. That is barbaric.There are no excuses for family separation. Anyone justifying it is immoral, without ethics and lacking basic human values. The entire immigration round up is for for-profit prisons and defense contractors lining their pockets. And that’s satanic. We need to take the profit out out of war and there will be peace in one minute. Defend children. Stop family separation.

      1. Jeffrey Conner's Avatar Jeffrey Conner

        So people who break the law and go to prison for 5 years should be able to take there family with them?? Or do we just not send them to prison for armed robbery, because it would separate the family.

        1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

          They should be able to contact their family and let them know they've been arrested at least. The people who ICE are detaining, some of whom are US citizens wrongfully detained, have not been given the chance to inform their families in many cases. Children can still go visit their relatives in prison, but children who have their parents deported without any knowledge of where they're being sent or when/if they will see them again is unnecessary cruelty.

  1. Steven Ferrell's Avatar Steven Ferrell

    Christians support the law. Christ also supported the law when he said to render unto the Cesar that which is Cesar’s and unto God that which is God.
    Christians should support Law Enforcement doing their jobs. It can be said that those who do not support Law Enforcement Officers doing their jobs, cannot be Christians.
    There are legal ways to enter a country and those should be followed. When ILLEGALS enter a country without following the laws, they are criminals.

    1. Brandon Terry's Avatar Brandon Terry

      Respectfully, there are so many verses that say we should treat sojourners as natives as well as Acts 5:29 that states that we should obey God’s laws over man’s when they are not in line. Also, 1 John 4:7-8 states God is love and only those who love are born of God and know God. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 define God’s love. Galatians 5:22-23 list the fruits of the Spirt by which we should all be living. Alternatively, the evidence of the flesh as listed in Galatians 5:19-21 include many acts I have seen that will insure people don’t inherit God’s kingdom. It even includes “and the like” so, yes… there are legal ways but you do not know the what led people to enter this country nor do you know why they have been waiting—neither do I. I have heard it is quite the process. In the meantime, they, for the most part, have been contributing members of their communities, which should mean something. For many on the other side of the aisle, this is driven by hate and money, both of which are not from God. So, instead of saying there are legal ways to enter the country, you may wish to ask, “what is the most loving way to help these people” for it may be you on that edge of the sword one day when you do not align yourself with Trump or his policies.

      1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

        Brandon, all humans love something.

        You'll have to find out exactly what is it were supposed to love and how were supposed to love it.

        Boiling the entire message of the Bible down to Love is very naive and misguided.

        For example: a man suffering from morphine withdrawals cries in pain and begs Please Please give me morphine! Do we love him and give his morphine? Do we give him enough to overdose from? How many years do we give him morphine? If we love him shouldn't we supply him morphine forever?

      2. Pastor George Day's Avatar Pastor George Day

        Brandon Terry

        Amen to that!

  1. Joseph Grieco's Avatar Joseph Grieco

    "Christians" who support ICE have no concept of the teachings of Yeheshua bar Yosef al Nassori. Instead, their theology is from cherry picking Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Joshua, Judges, some of Paul's Epistles, and parts of Revelations. These are the folks who would have turned in Anne Frank for an extra bread ration. These are the folks who would have turned in runaway slaves for a $10 reward. These are the folks who would have loosed the dogs on the folks at the Edmund Pettus Bridge for laughs. These are NOT Christ's people.

    1. Kevin Patrick Dabbs's Avatar Kevin Patrick Dabbs

      Lol. That is sooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    2. Joseph Saffomilla's Avatar Joseph Saffomilla

      And just like that, you can read peoples hearts and are fit to judge all men. Did I get that right?

    3. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      Joseph,

      You can always spot a cherry picker or someone who doesn't really ever digest the Bible when they call the book of Revelation, Revelations. Be cautious of taking biblical advice from such a person.

      My advice friend is put your own cherry basket down, start in Genesis and pray for the whole message, not just the stuff you want to hear. Turn to those many books Christians site for the subject. With that many books you say are sited it suggests no cherry picking occurred. You could be wrong about what the Bible says concerning law breaking invaders of a sovereign nation.

      Let's not place ourselves on God's great throne of judgement. We weren't invited to set in His place to do his work. Leave the condemnation of our fellow Christians to Satan and let him struggle for God's throne as he will.

  1. David Buck's Avatar David Buck

    "Render unto Caesar those things which are Caesar's" Immigration policy is most certainly the province of the government, not country music singers.

    These people are NOT being targeted because they are brown, or because they speak Spanish, they are being targeted because the broke the law of the land. Just because a bunch of idiots left the southern border of the US open for years, doesn't make it OK for people to sneak in illegally. Just because you forgot to lock your door, doesn't mean I get to come in and make myself at home in your living room.

    In any event, no need to break families up. The Kids can leave along with the parents.

    1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

      The bible says in like 23 different places about how god demands his children take care of the immigrant. None of those passages have any restrictions, not even legal ones.

  1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

    The bible says in like 23 different places about how god demands his children take care of the immigrant. It only takes like 5 places for people to say gay people need to be stripped of all rights. Hypocrisy much?

    1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      We're not a theocracy. Separation of Church-n-State remember? You won't let me forget it brother.

      No, we won't force our hateful Christianity on anyone. Instead we'll follow the secular laws put in place by non Christians. From what I've read, non Christians always know best.

      1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

        Please … Christians cite the Bible for so many reasons (all hate-filled) to influence American law and policy.
        (i.e., anti-LBGTQ+ rights, anti-abortion, slavery, male head of the household, cutting healthcare, etc…)

        But not for The Corporal Works of Mercy
        (Rooted in Matthew 25:31–46)

        1. Feed the hungry
        2. Give drink to the thirsty
        3. Clothe the naked
        4. Shelter the homeless
        5. Visit the sick
        6. Visit the imprisoned
        7. Bury the dead
        1. Pastor George Day's Avatar Pastor George Day

          Matthew Mastrogiovanni

          Would you have liked to experience a slow and painful death through dismemberment inside your mother's womb?

          Abortion can never be!

          1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

            I wouldn't have ever been alive to experience it so I wouldn't have cared. Can you tell me about the thoughts and senses you experienced while in utero?

  1. shiningwolf9's Avatar shiningwolf9

    Said it all. This is real truth. Anything else is someones hurt feelings of not being allowed to hate, or have other views of what christ taught, according to their own book.

  1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

    Let's not get our moral compass or biblical principles from a young boy who can't convey his thoughts without using the Eff word every chance he gets. It's a sign of low intellect and stunted emotional control.

    For a fun mental exercise, I recommend watching the boys rant with no volume. It'll tell you everything you need to know about him and his message.

    During his rant he said one key thing: blah,blah,blah- people trying to enter the country the right way- blah blah blah.

    These 20 million illegal aliens haven't entered the right way. They've entered our country against our permission. That means these 20+ million illegals really don't care at all what us citizens think, not in the slightest. Once here they traffic more in against our will. The lunatic leftist emotional outbursts do not trump the law we've put to protect our citizens.

    No sir - we citizens voted in the right fella for the job. Get to the back of the line and take this crappy country whiner with you.

    1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

      "During Donald Trump's first term, the Washington Post famously kept count of the lies the president told. The paper's final tally was 30,573" Good choice, citizen SoJ.

      1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

        Since your one of the very rare critters out there rev BH, I looked this up. The paper is naturally extraordinarily biased as pro liberal/left/Democrat.

        Anything trump repeated was tallied as another lie. A big one was "Russian collusion" which the FBI says no to. The number the post generated is therefore inflated, inaccurate and unfortunately a lie. I wish we could trust the press's stories but I just can't anymore.

        How can we tell if a paper is pushing their own personal agenda? No such tally exists for Obama and Biden was only tracked long enough to know he lies pretty often too. Then it stopped. Radio silence.

        I don't doubt for a microsecond our elected leaders all lie. It's terrible. Both sides do it but usually both sides ignore their own side. It's almost an insanity.

        I'll pick on Shawn Hannity. During Biden admin he's getting upset about giving Ukraine our weapons. So was I. Now that Trump is doing it Hannity thinks it's the wise thing to do. The left is opposite. Fine with Biden doing it but not Trump. When Trump does it he's Hitler.

        I'm never fine with giving anyone any of our weapons ever.

        I only want a secure nation with safe streets and a place I can work for my wife and kids until they throw dirt on my face. We're losing that my friend.

        1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

          Trump lies at a historic pace. He is unique in presidential history regarding the extent to which he lies. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2021/04/30/who-lied-more-during-their-first-100-days-biden-trump-or-obama/ https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/

          The Washington Post is left-center in their bias, yes, but their numbers are credible in this case. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/

        2. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

          Glad to be a rare critter. Never was a lemming.

          Thoughtfully, courteously written, SoJ. Keep it up.

  1. Dorothy Hawkins's Avatar Dorothy Hawkins

    Here's Bryan Andrews' song: "The Older I Get", which inspired him to speak out:

    https://youtu.be/vfx1vN4rVHI?si=PSF56wz2BBSVm5Ep

  1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

    I agree, Keoni. Perhaps many came across the border illegally because there would be no way they would pass all the background checks for legal residency. I suspect that might be the reason many are not taking up the option of returning back to where they came from with options of applying later legally to enter the US.

    🦁❤️

    1. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

      All I am saying, is come to the USA legally.

  1. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

    Illegal aliens should not have greater rights & privileges than a USA legal resident.

    Why not become legal ?

    USA citizens, who work at minimum wage jobs, do not get the same financial aid, housing assistance, educational assistance, food assistance, etc... than a minimum wage employee.

    1. Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox's Avatar Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox

      Please elaborate on the “greater rights” you claim undocumented human beings get that you do not get. You offer blanket statements with no proof to back them up. It sounds like you’ve bought into the fake outrage fomented by the current administration.

      1. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

        I was once a part of a joint task force, for ICE, located at 36 Federal Plaza, in NYC.

        I was trained by ICE, was briefed by ICE, and executed an ICE arrest warrant, for an illegal Mexican citizen who was convicted for several separate felony sex crimes.

        Did you know him, Elizabeth ?

        1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

          It seems to me you just used the art of deflection to avoid actually answering the question asked of you. Please show me your research and percentages of the number of people arrested and charged with felony sex crimes that are illegal aliens in comparison with the number of home grown people charged with the same crimes? I mean since you did bring up that topic yourself...

          1. Patricia Ann Gross's Avatar Patricia Ann Gross

            He's talking about one immigrant.

          2. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

            I don't have to show you, all of the court records, of felony convictions, of illegal aliens. You must prove, via public records, that I am erroneous. My power & authority came via an immigration arrest warrant, that was based on his prior felony convictions and subsequent returns.

        2. Patricia Ann Gross's Avatar Patricia Ann Gross

          Keoni,

          How did this person have "greater rights" than anyone else? Wasn't he innocent until proven guilty just like everyone else? If not, he had fewer rights.

          1. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

            An Immigration Arrest Warrant, is based on the prior Felony Convictions & Subsequent returns, that establishes Probable Cause.

            1. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

              Illegal Aliens were receiving financial support, housing, educational benefits, food benefits, etc... more than a minimum wage eployee would receive.

              1. Patricia Ann Gross's Avatar Patricia Ann Gross

                Where? Unless you have legal documents, you are not eligible for such benefits. I know some places will accept children without papers in K-12 programs and some food closets distribute to anyone who comes through the door, but government run (through DHS and HUD) food and housing programs require proof of legal status. Also remember that legal status through TPS was yanked indiscriminately from half a million immigrants by this administration, so prior to that they were eligible and legal.

              2. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

                Let me redo my statements.

                Come to the USA legally and not illegally.

                ICE is enforcing immigration laws that are already on the books. Protest against Congress, to change the immigration laws.

                Illegal aliens who commit crimes, should not be given any legal status.

                When protesters block any law enforcement officers (like ICE), they should know the difference between a peaceful protest and a violent protest.

              3. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

                ICE officers are the ones who need to learn the difference between peaceful and violent protest. There was nothing violent happening when these officers decided to shoot pepper balls at these protestors' heads.

                https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/video-federal-agent-shoot-chicago-pastor-head-pepper-ball-broadview-ice-protest

                It's not the protestors who are violent, it's the masked thugs kidnapping people from their communities and sending them to places unknown without any due process or family notification.

              4. Patricia Ann Gross's Avatar Patricia Ann Gross

                Great response. Too bad it didn't answer a single question but stated generalities that most people would agree too. I'll just add two things: When a person claiming to be an ICE agent, but refuses to identify themself and covers his face like a common thug, he is probably a common thug.

                What about the half million that came legally under TPS status, but had that status yanked indiscriminately by this administration before they were able to have their screening hearings? The easiest way to "create" illegal immigrants is to suddenly declare that things like TPS and H1 visas are no longer valid. What's next? Green cards? Half a million people were lied to by this country. How proud are you now?

            2. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

              Keoni Ronald May, "An Immigration Arrest Warrant, is based on the prior Felony Convictions & Subsequent returns, that establishes Probable Cause" Also, in too many cases, on color and accent.

      2. Kevin Patrick Dabbs's Avatar Kevin Patrick Dabbs

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      3. Rev. Donut's Avatar Rev. Donut

        No border = No Country = No Gimmie Dats.

        The USA is the best country in the world.

        And you know that because no body is "breaking out", Only breaking in.

        How many other countries do you suppose will allow people to violently protest and injure others and burn down their own stores and and facilities, carry some kind of flag from "their" country and scream they hate the Country they are in but won't go back to "their country"? You know, the one they love sooooo much, but don't want to leave where they are?

        You don't see people breaking into, for example Russia or Poland. Because Poland and Russia will, at a minimum, toss their butt out, if they are lucky.

        Not a lot of people breaking into Venezuela, Uganda or Nigeria, or Haiti are there? Wonder why?

        The USA has a right to protect it's borders from those that have and do and will try to break in and use up a town's, a city's, a state's and the USA's assets. That means Money. Taxpayer Money meant for helping those legal citizens in the USA experiencing difficulties.

        Millions upon Millions of people from all over the world have come to the USA legally. They did it the right way.

        The Previous administration, ran by Otto Penn, wanted to flood the USA with people and then magically give them voting status so they could try and stay in power while increasing housing cost and the cost of everything at the expense of Legal, USA Citizens of every race color and creed.

        They want power and to keep the minorities of every race and creed and color under the "Governments" Thumb.

        Talk to somebody that escaped Cuba.

        Big News. The Latins that came legally and others from around the world that came to the USA legally don't want the illegals here.

        No one is splitting up families. If Illegals self deport before they are caught, they may take their family with them. That's their choice. Not only will they get a little money to leave and a free plane ride home, but they will also be allowed, after a period of time, to apply to come to the USA Legally.

        1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

          A plane ride "home"? Check out the list of paid countries where you actually may be deported to. Here's a few: Eswatini, Rwanda, South Sudan, Uganda. Imagine being booted off a plane there with a sandwich and a bottled water.

        2. Pastor George Day's Avatar Pastor George Day

          Rev. Donut

          Well articulated. I believe that's remarkably equitable!

    2. Scott Smith's Avatar Scott Smith

      Yes, why don't they become legal? BECAUSE WE WON'T LET THEM!

      Think of the babies brought across the border by their parents 30 years ago. this country is all they know. We had DACA, then the Republicans ended it. Why?

      Create a legal path for people to become citizens should they choose to.

    3. Rev Ned's Avatar Rev Ned

      Many people buy into the MAGA BS. Sadly, you are one! Jesus was the wokest person to ever walk on this earth.

      1. Robert Thurber's Avatar Robert Thurber

        I agree.

        1. Kevin Patrick Dabbs's Avatar Kevin Patrick Dabbs

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          1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

            16 emojis is 15 too many.

    4. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

      Keoni, "USA citizens, who work at minimum wage jobs, do not get the same financial aid, housing assistance, educational assistance, food assistance, etc... than a minimum wage employee."

      Neither do the 60,000 federal workers Trump has fired so far. Nor the workers who've lost businesses and jobs due to his tariffs. Nor do medical workers in diminished and closing hospitals. Or vets whose benefits have been cut. This is your president's doing, not some impoverished (South) American's doing.

      1. Keoni Ronald May's Avatar Keoni Ronald May

        Minimum Wage Employees (millions for all 50 States), far outnumber, the fired Federal Employees (60,000 your number). Minimum wage workers will always exist and Federal Employees can always return under a new POTUS.

        The General Public has forgotten, that our National Deficit, is constantly growing. Any POTUS, will have to reduce spending, to stay within the USA spending budget or increase taxes.

        The USA must take care of itself, before it takes care of the rest of the world.

        All under performing government agencies, must take a financial hit, in order to reduce the National Deficit.

        I am a Vietnam War veteran, and I have seen some waste, at some VA facilities. When there are more VA employees, than there are veterans being serviced, that is waste. Civilian doctors can have a receptionist, a secretary, a billing clerk, and a nurse to assist a doctor. That number is far greater at a VA facility.

        Tariffs are a financial double edged sword. It is a long term financial gain, at a short term financial shortfall.

        The price of gasoline is dropping.

        Businesses that have been doing business with China, will be taking a financial hit because of Tariffs. Buy American is behind the Tariff Financial Strategy.

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          Sadly, I’m in the blue state of California where gas prices are still well over $4 a gallon, and unhoused American citizens are in record numbers sleeping on the streets. Gavin Newsom and the Mayor, Karen Bass are fighting to keep illegal aliens here as best they can. They possibly need their votes. 🤭

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          1. shiningwolf9's Avatar shiningwolf9

            Hard to believe ULC is allowing people to use their backwards, and backwoods ideologies of hate and discrimination to infiltrate any posts. And the misinformation about how so many people are crossing the border. Your ancestors did the same thing, only worse. Torturing, and killing some of my ancestors, stealing land, etc. Where are your penances for what your ancestors did, and even today, with the elections, stopping indigenous people from voting; stopping needed government funding for housing, food, etc., this very day. PRIVILEGE, for Theives, Haters, Killers.... Where is the "white man's" so called christianism teachings? We have never seen it.

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              I totally understand your anger and concern about your particular tribal ancestors who, like so many people back in the day, were tribal settlers. It’s my understanding there was a lot of inter-tribal warfare way before the white man even helped to settle this land.

              I’m sure warfare was initiated by both natives and European settlers. It must have been a very difficult time for everyone involved settling this land.

              Purely as a matter of interest my ancestors were not involved settling and populating this land in the United States. I am a first generation immigrant having legally immigrated here with my family to the US in 1987.

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    5. Bridget Kielas-Fecyk's Avatar Bridget Kielas-Fecyk

      Keoni Ronald May You stated:

      >>>Illegal aliens should not have greater rights & privileges than a USA legal resident. >>> >>>Why not become legal ? >>> >>>USA citizens, who work at minimum wage jobs, do not get the same financial aid, housing assistance, >>>educational assistance, food assistance, etc... than a minimum wage employee.

      So I ask you the following:

      1) How do they have "More Rights" than the average US citizen?

      Simple answer, they don't. US Citizens have the right to vote, the ability to get onto Federal Assistance programs, are able to get proper insurance, etc. These are things that undocumented migrants do not have access to. The MAGA crowd and the mouth-pieces that whip them into a frenzy can claim that undocumented migrants are getting ALL these freebies and is draining medicare and social security, etc., but the fact is, and yes you can look it up, emergency care for an undocumented migrant, which is paid via a medicare program that also covers homeless americans, only counts for 0.001% of the total federal spending on medicare / medicaid. That is less than even half of 1%.

      2) You just contradicted yourself. You said americans who work minimum wage jobs don't get the same assistance as minimum wage workers. I think, in your haste to try to vilify undocumented workers, you were trying to claim that undocumented individuals get generous housing stipends while working for minimum wage.

      This is 100% false. While some STATES do provide extra stipends for individuals who are currently going through the legal asylum process, which, btw, still lists them as undocumented despite the fact they are going through the court system to get their permanent residency cards, which means they ARE working respectfully through our legal system as required, FEDERALLY, there are no such stipends for undocumented migrants.

      Furthermore, while some EMPLOYERS provide temporary housing for seasonal migrant workers, documented or not, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT does not provide this in any way, shape, or form.

      So now that I've debunked your premise completely, I ask again, how in the he** do undocumented migrants have "more rights" than US citizens?

  1. Najah P Tamargo's Avatar Najah P Tamargo

    Najah Tamargo-USA

    AGREE!!!!

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