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Is this the true face of Jesus?

From the lofty ceiling of the Sistine Chapel to a cheap portrait hanging above the mantelpiece in your grandma’s house, artists have long sought to recreate an accurate portrayal of Jesus Christ with the stroke of a paintbrush.

Jesus is perhaps the most popular artistic subject of all time, and there are countless interpretations of what he really looked like throughout art history.

Who knew the likes of Michelangelo, da Vinci, and Caravaggio simply needed to wait for the advent of artificial intelligence to show the true face of Jesus?

In a first, AI image-generating technology has used the Shroud of Turin as a template to show what many claim is the "real" face of Jesus in HD clarity.

Do we actually, finally, know what Jesus Christ looked like?

What is the Shroud of Turin?

To understand how it reveals an alleged crystal clear image of Jesus, we must first understand what, exactly this ancient relic is.

The Shroud of Turin is a burial relic believed by many Christians to show the holy visage of Jesus, after being used to cover his face after death. 

Made from a simple 14-foot linen cloth, with the faint image of a man’s front and back imprinted in the shroud in a reddish-yellow stain… likely blood, according to some experts.

The shroud first shows up in documented history in 1354, when it appeared in a church in northern France. It was initially believed to have been given to a church in Lirey by the famed French knight Geoffroi de Charny, who claimed it was the real burial shroud of Jesus Christ. 

Interestingly, there is little evidence to suggest how de Charny acquired the shroud in the first place.

Nevertheless, the legend of the Shroud of Turin grew, and it's since become one of the most famous – and controversial – Christian relics in existence. The debate centers around one crucial question: is it real? 

Real or Fake?

Even in the 14th century, many considered the shroud a hoax. In 1390, the bishop of Troyes told Pope Clement VII that he believed the shroud was a forgery, possibly as a means to raise money and followers for the Lirey church.

Pope Clement VII agreed, but contended that the church could still display the shroud so long as they describe it as an "icon", and not a "relic".

Despite the pope’s assertion that the shroud was inauthentic, scores of Christians throughout history believed – and still believe – that the shroud is indeed the actual visage of Jesus.

Further complicating matters are the scores of scientific analyses done on this piece of cloth. Radiocarbon dating showed the shroud was made sometime during the Middle Ages – but this is a matter of serious dispute, and some scholars insist the radiocarbon dating was conducted on a piece of cloth used in the 14th century to repair the shroud.

Although many Christian denominations recognize the significance of the shroud, it has been particularly venerated in the Catholic Church. 

The Catholic Church does not explicitly endorse or reject the shroud’s authenticity, leaving it up to individual members to interpret for themselves. 

The Face of Jesus

If the shroud truly is what it's purported to be, we may now have the clearest image of what Jesus Christ looked like thanks to AI technology. 

The shockingly lifelike image produced by an image-generation platform shows a thin man with long hair, soft eyes, high cheekbones, and a goatee – a rendering not so far off from countless other artistic depictions of Jesus in centuries past. 

Related: What Did Jesus, Mary, and Joseph Actually Look Like?

One question skeptics pose: was the artificial intelligence used to create this lifelike image of Jesus biased by thousands of previous portrayals of Jesus? Or was our collective imagining of Jesus perhaps informed by the shroud itself?

What do you think? True face of Jesus, or clever forgery?

113 comments

  1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

    That ain't him. He was brutalized, his face was swollen and beaten to a pulp. This proves the shroud is a fake. Thanks AI for letting us know what we already knew.

    1. Tareq Asfour's Avatar Tareq Asfour

      Who told you that story you’re following the wrong narrative

      1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

        Was he crucified?

    2. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

      He was scourged, which was accurately portrayed in the Passion of Christ movie. Nowhere in the mythology does it say he was beaten to a pulp.

      1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

        Matthew,

        The Roman soldiers would play a game with prisoners to be executed. They blindfolded the prisoner after showing him each of their hands. They would all punch his face except one wouldn't. If the prisoner could guess who didn't punch him they'd stop. The prisoner never guessed right untill the soldiers grew tired of the game. My Lord was bruised like none other had ever been before. The Bible says that.

        1. Rev. Michael Gerraghty II's Avatar Rev. Michael Gerraghty II

          You aren't really saying much without any verses or evidence of the "game" even existing you dont expect someone to take your word for it off of assumptions now would you?

          1. John's Avatar John

            Indeed where is the evidence that such a practice existed. Please site the reference and quotation of a PhD historian that has spent a lifetime of study on ancient Roman customs and history. That would be worthy of a post.

        2. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

          The Bible said that?

          If you can't produce a chapter and verse, your whole post here is a lie. This is bizarre fiction.

    3. Timothy Paul. Forrester's Avatar Timothy Paul. Forrester

      That is true and come to think about it he was beaten be on compared. Jesus didn't really look like him: if one looks real close to Jesus face you really couldn't see him like he was before. Thanks for o I ending my eye's.

  1. James McDunn's Avatar James McDunn

    The Shroud of Turin has been carbon dated to around AD 1350. You can use AI to detremine what the person who created the Shroud of Turin (Possibly Leonardo di Vinci) THOUGHT Jesus looked like. I highly doubt He looked like one of the Bee Gees, which is what he look likse in that picture.

    1. Stefano Di Stefano's Avatar Stefano Di Stefano

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    2. Stefano Di Stefano's Avatar Stefano Di Stefano

      Leonardo da Vinci di ser Piero (Anchiano, 15 aprile 1452[1] – Amboise, 2 maggio 1519) Da Wikipedia Le date non corrispondono al 1350 d.c. Sorry non sono d' accordo Tank

    3. Rev. B's Avatar Rev. B

      Gives new meaning to Stayin' Alive

  1. Dan Anderson's Avatar Dan Anderson

    Sadly, the Shroud of Turin has been proven to be a fake, not even made within a thousand years of the assumed life of Jesus.

    https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/shroud-of-christ-clues-and-evidence/7125/#:~:text=The%20results%20showed%20that%20the,more%20than%20a%20medieval%20hoax.

    1. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

      Hundreds. But otherwise correct.

  1. William Waugh's Avatar William Waugh

    I doubt it.

    1. Rev_Shaun's Avatar Rev_Shaun

      The Turing Shroud is the Loch Ness Monster of Religion!

  1. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

    I have done extensive study of the Shroud and of crucifixion in general. This cloth is a wonderful and realistic representation of a 1st century man that has been crucified. Whether it is Jesus or not will never be proven. The reason is faith. If it were proven to be genuine then many would believe due to that proof. No need for faith. The Bible says that it is only by faith that we can obtain the Salvation purchased by Jesus on the cross. Therefore God would not leave proof laying around for us to find so that our faith would still be needed.

    Besides, non-believers would choose to ignore proof anyway, as they already do with things such as the moon landing or climate change.

    1. Minister Raymond Butterworth's Avatar Minister Raymond Butterworth

      I believe that God wants us to choose Him, and to love Him because we have faith in Him and we want to be with Him. If we were to be shown, for all the nonbelievers, Incontrovertible evidence that God is real, what would God gain? Plenty more persons in his flock...sure. Persons who would then fear God and that would be about the only reason they would be there. God doesn't want a flock of the faithless and fearful. By choosing God on faith without evidence, we prove ourselves.

    2. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      Colleen,

      You are absolutely full thrust on the money. There will be no "proof" to the masses other than our Lord's promised return. Proof is and can only be to the individual. One by one as archeologists uncovered biblical events, the demanded proof is ignored and shifted to another biblical claim that has not yet been uncovered. Again and again it is this way. When the Exodus is uncovered it will be ignored by those that demand it as proof and they will say God is not real.

    3. Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox's Avatar Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox

      I’m not sure what “research” you’ve done on non-believers but I’m one who believes in the moon landing and climate change.

      I think you’re getting us mixed up with republicans, far right wing extremists, and Christian nationalists. Kinda blows your claim of researching the shroud.

      1. Scott Roman's Avatar Scott Roman

        And why is he still Caucasian? LoL

      2. Scott MacArthur's Avatar Scott MacArthur

        You had to put republicans in your comments. Even republicans believe.

    4. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      Colleen McAllister. You said you have done extensive research o the Shroud and of the crucifixion. What materials did you use to conduct your research?

      1. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

        In the days before the internet existed I used the only materials available to me. Books, news articles, documentaries, and scholarly papers. I read everything available at that time. I have tried to keep up with the research since then and have come to the conclusion above. There will never be undeniable proof that the Shroud is legitimate. I have become a full on believer since then and found that the legitimacy of the Shroud has no bearing on my faith.

        1. Rev. Michael Gerraghty II's Avatar Rev. Michael Gerraghty II

          That's how ya do it! People seem to have forgotten how individuals like you and I had to actually WORK in our research and not just press a button on a technological item.

    5. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

      Then you would have noticed that when they inspected where Jesus was buried, they saw his shroud with the head piece separate, and apart from the shroud.

      The biblical shroud was a 2-piece shroud with separate headpiece. This is not that.

      Let alone that the Shroud of Turin came into existence more than 200 years after Jesus was crucified.

    6. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

      Jesus was a carpenter, a fisherman, an on-foot traveler. Accordingly, he was thought to be robust, deeply tanned and not pale and ascetic. And not Caucasian.

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    This looks exactly like the face of Jesus that appears on a piece of toast not too long ago.

    1. Katherine Luetta Gonzalez's Avatar Katherine Luetta Gonzalez

      😂. Pretty much. 👍

    2. Rev. Donut's Avatar Rev. Donut

      I gotta say yes to that.

      Seems like I remember the "toast".

      It made the news, such as that is these days.

      Everyone was eating it up

      It was the most from coast to coast.

      Did somebody try and sell it on ebay?

  1. Man of God's Avatar Man of God

    The people who like to claim that any of the Creator's communications to us should read his spoken word. The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacop always told us of from where he deceided to choose his prophets.

    There are absolutely no prophets that that God spoke to that are in the Old Testament, where from any European country, ten thousand years ago or today.

    Jesus, is a physical birth child of a desendent of Abraham. The angel of Our God told Joseph that the Holy Spirit had given Mary a child and you are to name him Jesus.

    According to Our Lord's teachings no Europeans at anytime in history are, where apart of the message of the Good News. The Creator of the Universe is no liar. People lie and create false stories. In fact the only discription of Europeans in the Bible anywhere are in the New Testamant. They were called Romans. It was Romans that nailed Jesus to the cross to furfill the teachings of the Old Testament. Many thousands of years has past since then. The teaching of our God who represents: God, The Son(Lord God) and the Holy Spirit are one in three.

    The lies of a Jesus who is pale in skin, blond of hair, blue of eyes are all lies that can only come from the enemies of truth, reality, the Earth (our given home). These enemies is lead by the evil one, Jesus called Satan.

    1. Alun Lloyd Palmer's Avatar Alun Lloyd Palmer

      Nothing in the image indicates pale skin, blond hair or blue eyes.

      Abraham was from Ur, the ruins of which archaeologists believe they have long since found in the Southern part of Iraq, just to the north of the junction of the Tigris and the Euphrates, where the Bible says the Garden of Eden was. So, if Jesus was a direct descendant of Abraham, and Abraham would have been an Iraqi if he had lived today, it's reasonable to assume that Jesus would have looked like an Iraqi, or at least their ancient predecessors.

      Now, tell me if there's anything in the monochrome image derived from the Shroud of Turin that could definitively tell you whether you were looking at a European or an Iraqi? No? Didn't think so.

      Whether the Shroud of Turin is genuine, who knows?

      1. Lester Stanley Petrie's Avatar Lester Stanley Petrie

        And, who really cares, or needs to?

      2. Man of God's Avatar Man of God

        Several years ago, the BBC did a program on how the used DNA and other historical records to make a bust of Jesus. That BBC program makes sense to me.

        According to the carbon dating technique the Turin shroud was dated for the 12th - 13th century AD. The weave and material was not from Jesus's era.

        The Ten Commandments matters. Second Commandment states, "Thou shalt not make unto three any graven image, or any likeness of ant thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shal not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: For I the Lord God am a jealous God.

        The question becomes when do those who claim to believe in the teachings of GOD, denounce all false directions from GOD's teaching as just that: A false directions? Can man claim that God is wrong, confused, cannot make up his mind?

        When Jesus walked amongst us. He asked who do you think I am? Jesus said I was there in the begining. Chaper 1 of Genesis the word God is only used to teach us about the creation. In Chapter 2 more detail about the creation is given, the Lord God is added as the creator with the detail that the Lord God breathed the breath of life into the nostrils of man then he became a living being.

        I say God is not the one making a mistake. Man and his lack of faith is the mistake!

  1. Lawrence A. Benson's Avatar Lawrence A. Benson

    LOL How many times is this piece of cloth going to be tested and retested and still found to not be the face of Jesus Christ of Nazarith..................or anywhere else.

    1. Pamela Shuttleworth's Avatar Pamela Shuttleworth

      I'm just guessing here; if one believes that everyone and everything on earth started as Our Creators love, has a purpose or mystery to understand couldn't the shroud be a tool for understanding and mysteries of faith?

  1. Robert Edward Szekely's Avatar Robert Edward Szekely

    This supports the argument that we "make God in our own image", because Jesus wasn't a European with delicate features.

  1. Rev Mark D's Avatar Rev Mark D

    Well since the shroud is fake, it's not much question or probably even any point is there?

  1. Merlin's Avatar Merlin

    Does not matter unless you need a like image to give some justification.

  1. Rev_Shaun's Avatar Rev_Shaun

    it cannot be the image of someone who never actually existed.

    1. Minister Raymond Butterworth's Avatar Minister Raymond Butterworth

      Who never existed?

  1. Robert S Collins's Avatar Robert S Collins

    Jesus is not Caucasian. No one in the Bible is Caucasian.

  1. Wayne M. Delia's Avatar Wayne M. Delia

    An AI-generated image is simply based on the inputs of the faint outline on the Shroud of Turin, and the assumption that the outline is that of Jesus. The Shroud is a fraud, not just by the fourteenth century carbon dating, but by the simple fact that the headpiece, wrapped around the head, would display an image of a very wide face, as if the surface area of the head was flattened out along the 2D surface of the cloth. If the image was somehow "burned in" by a kind of divine radiation, the fabric would need to be suspended inches above the face instead of wrapped around the head to achieve that narrow facial image. Also, the Shroud would indicate that the description in John 20:5-7 is wrong. The Shroud is one long piece of fabric; a separate headpiece is described in John 20 which would significantly alter the image on a proposed shroud.

  1. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

    Yea.... no. For starters they cant even seem to get away from the paler Euro-Jesus there. It's like people don't stop to really think about where the religion developed in the first place.

  1. Peter Senderowitz's Avatar Peter Senderowitz

    Jesus was a Middle Eastern Semite. The AI image is not that of a Semite but that of a Latin Mediterranean rock star or " hippie ". The most likely representation of the historical Jesus is the Rembrant painting of Jesus in the New York City Metropolitan Museum of Art that I viewed many years ago. Can't blame a guy for trying, though Or in the words of the Great One from Gravesend, Brooklyn, " Who Ca'z! "

  1. Rick Smith's Avatar Rick Smith

    Today's AI technology is "predictive" in that it uses existing data to predict things that might look "right," given what it is shown as examples. In this case it simply reinforces the prejudices of countless pseudo-European images.

    1. Rick Smith's Avatar Rick Smith

      Also I have to wonder how this particular bit of 'research' was carried out. To do it correctly, they would need to use numerous examples of marks on shrouds matched with images of the people covered by said shrouds. I don't believe such a data collection exists.

      1. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

        Even the blood on the shroud was found to not be blood.

  1. Susan Christine Giganti's Avatar Susan Christine Giganti

    This is the face of a European and not a Middle Eastern person.
    The cloth was carbon dated and it’s not from the time of Jesus. The weave is not from the time of Jesus . One TV special from either Nat Geo or the History Channel, said the image was a faded painting technique. There are no relics of Jesus. The alleged pieces of the cross, robe , and crown of thorns were likely ancient reproduction. Empress Saint Helena in AD 326-28 wasn’t collecting original items. Jerusalem had been destroyed in AD 70. If the Grail or Ten Commandment tablets exist, not one is proving that either. The belief in Jesus comes from faith. We as modern humans, raised with more science in our lives and access to the world’s information, always want a proof.

  1. Rev Wayne Steven's Avatar Rev Wayne Steven

    I know there's a lot to be said and to be doubted but on the other hand at least we have a start because what do we have beforehand

  1. Angelic Realms's Avatar Angelic Realms

    My guess is that this is accurate in that he was like the people of his day, very thin and wiry ith facial hair and long locks. Not stunninglyh beautiful but attractive sort of everyman.

    1. Robert Edward Szekely's Avatar Robert Edward Szekely

      Unlikely to be accurate, as Yeshua bin Yosef would have had Semitic, not European, features: his skin would have been swarthier, his hair curlier, and his features less delicate. That image reflects more a European or Mediterranean man of the 14th century, not a Semite of the 1st century.

      1. Peter Senderowitz's Avatar Peter Senderowitz

        Rightchar! See Rembrant's painting of Jesus in the NYC Metropolitan Museum of Art. ( if it's still there )

  1. Cindi's Avatar Cindi

    No way Christ looked like this. He was a carpenter who used lots of muscle and would have had very wide shoulders from building things. There were no electric tools back then. Tools themselves weighed heavy. Also, his face would have been swollen and cut up from the abuse. http://www.barr-family.com/godsword/Picture/woodshop.jpg No - the AI is WRONG!

  1. Tareq Asfour's Avatar Tareq Asfour

    I got a question for everybody for the last say to thousand years what if the Jesus story wasn’t true would that change anything in America? Let’s say Jesus was never crucified maybe it was Judas he took his place let’s just say, would that change anything ?

    1. Daniel-David's Avatar Daniel-David

      That was the central theme of the film:

      THE LAST TEMPTATION OF JESUS CHRIST. staring William DeFoe

    2. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      Tareq,

      I thought this was your angle, that's why I asked you if Jesus was crucified in my initial post.

      I'll play, I hope your English is good.
      Yes it would matter to me, the satanists, atheists, pagans, and the rest of Christianity on planet earth except for Christian-like cults, they already think this.

      Judas as depicted in the bible was a traitor. He was born of sin and into sin. He lied, cheated and was a thief as all men are. Such a man being crucified was every day stuff then, now and tomorrow. No big deal. Sin brings death. Judas taking the place of my Lord is akin to a pig being sacrificed in the place of a flawless lamb. A whore passed as a virgin. Mud traded as a diamond. Human feces served as a fillet mignon. You get the idea, absolute filth passed as pure cleanliness. Jesus will have been disobedient to God and became a liar and exposed as a charlatan. This is what the Jewish and Muslim people believe along with Christian-like cults like the Jehovah Whiteness and the Mormons.

      If you believe the Lord Christ, the Son of God, the Son of Man was not crucified and then raised you have allies in many many cults, pagan faiths, agnostic, atheist and most importantly satanists that believe as you do. You are not alone.

      I am always willing to be wrong Tareq, what document do you get your information from, please post a link here so I may examine it.

  1. JoM's Avatar JoM

    How did it determine the color or race? This does NOT resemble a man from Mesopotamia. ( Iraq, Israel, Iran area)

  1. David Richard Procter's Avatar David Richard Procter

    Jesus Christ, if he really lived, was a Middle Eastern Jew. As such, he resembled this:

    https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2015/12/jesus1.jpg

  1. Arthur Dixon Jones's Avatar Arthur Dixon Jones

    I have no idea, and unless Jesus comes to tell us yes or no, we can never know. AI is telling us this is the face of Jesus Christ?! AI is a program to decide either way, based on information humans enter. Since when are humans infalible? This is why I can say I have no idea. Somethings about the time we do know is most men had close cut, shaved heads. This the Egyptians did also due to lice and fleas. Jesus was middle eastern so his complexation would be limited, but not caucasian. As for no swelling or bruising from beatings, if he could be risen from death I'm pretty sure he could be made beautiful again. Ok one last thought, Our religion, The Lord, all we have been told, I believe because off my faith! I believe because of things in my life that gave me the faith to believe. So Is it real, I hope so my faith tells me to believe, I want it to be real. Please my fellow friends, believe, open your eyes and see, KEEP THE FAITH.

  1. Timothy Paul. Forrester's Avatar Timothy Paul. Forrester

    I believe to this day on the shroud and it's reality of today. When Jesus was taken down from the Cross: Jesus was wrapped in burial clothesing and he was covered from head to feet; so the Shroud is real.

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      Yes the shroud is real, if it wasn’t we wouldn’t be able to date it. As for everything else that’s being mentioned about it…well….pure conjecture. We know it’s been radiocarbon dated to around AD1260-1390. Also, there are no examples of herringbone weave garments existing 2000 years ago, as in the shroud, just a plain weave. Everything else is just wishful thinking by those who don’t want to believe anything else. Religious indoctrination can be so cruel.

      🦁❤️

    2. Lester Stanley Petrie's Avatar Lester Stanley Petrie

      If some of the other stories were real.

    3. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

      John 20:7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. 7 and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus' head, not lying with the linen cloths but folded up in a place by itself.

      How does this fit in with your description of how he was covered, or how the Shroud of Turin even appears?

  1. Theresa C. Marquess's Avatar Theresa C. Marquess

    I don't find it amazing that the Shroud of Turin has been preserved and is in such excellent condition. Jesus was prepared for burial by the women. He was anointed with oils before being wrapped in the shroud. Do you believe in Christ? If you do, it wouldn't be very hard to believe that it is miraculous that this cloth, after having been handled by numerous persons over the centuries is in this good a condition. You would believe that it is a miracle. As for exactly what Jesus looked like, is it really necessary for us to know? This will separate the believers from the non-believers. ...and that is okay.

  1. Geoffrey C. Olive's Avatar Geoffrey C. Olive

    Who cares? How about doing more research that’ll benefit mankind than determine whether a person of the Jewish persuasion looks Jewish or not as depicted in medieval western art?

  1. Katherine Ann Smith's Avatar Katherine Ann Smith

    Rev. K. Smith

    Yes I do believe that this IS the face of our Lord. Jesus.

  1. Katherine Ann Smith's Avatar Katherine Ann Smith

    Rev. Katherine Smith.

    Real or not. I think that is a BEAUTIFUL Image of our Lord Jesus Christ. I love it. Some day we ALL will get to see the real him face to face. What a day that will be for us.

    1. Lester Stanley Petrie's Avatar Lester Stanley Petrie

      OMG!

  1. P. Keith Benefiel's Avatar P. Keith Benefiel

    How come a Palestinian Jew always looks like a hippie from Omaha?

    1. Pink Clover's Avatar Pink Clover

      Well, since they were first I think it's Omaha hippies that look like Palestinian Jews! They don't, but seems logical. :)

  1. Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson's Avatar Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson

    Honestly, it's disturbing how people are so obsessed with what Jesus looked like.

    What are we looking for? What are we hoping for? Why would it matter otherwise?

    This thread is proof of how people need religion - and at the same time proof of religion's abject failure.

    1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      Careful examination of the Bible shows Jesus looked different to each person that saw him.

      Does not the demand of the unbeliever scream the loudest, Show Me God?

      1. Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson's Avatar Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson

        I've seen the light SOJ. I don't 'need' to see anything else.

  1. James Bullard's Avatar James Bullard

    Accordng to the account in the New Testament he was beaten with a whip before being crusified. The lashes would have been on his back which would have been shredded and bleeding, so yes there would likely be blood stains on his shroud but... Are there correspnding stains on the part of the shroud that shows the back? I don't see them. The only blood likely on his face would have been from the crown of thorns which might have pierced his forehead but there are no marks on the forehead. Plus this is not the face of a middle-eastern man he looks more European. And how did it escape notice for 12 centuries? Who had and and how could they pass down through many generations that this is what it was? I am beyond skeptical.

  1. Stephen Fike's Avatar Stephen Fike

    This is undoubtedly the burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth the Christ of the most high God the blood on it is AB positive the dust on the left knee and the dust on the bridge of the nose has been verified to come from outside of the Damascus gate on the way to Golgotha the place of the crucifixion I do not expect you to believe me but if you do your own research read the word of God have one Bible which is the King James version read the story of the crucifixion of Christ look at the shroud of Turin look up Golgotha look at the picture forget about your religion forget about denominations for just a moment and look at what the word of God says look at those two pictures and make your own conclusion as for me I believe it is the burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth and the evidence of the resurrection of my Lord and Savior Romans 10:9 if we confess the Lord by mouth and believe in our heart that God has raised him from the dead you shall be saved

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      The science proves otherwise, Sir Stephen, but thank you for telling us what you like to believe.

      🦁❤️

  1. John Komorowski's Avatar John Komorowski

    I believe it is the face of the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar, Jacques DeMolay.

  1. Paul Johnson's Avatar Paul Johnson

    I get it now we have people who were there and for sure know what His appearance for sure would look like. Yippee

  1. Nicholas J Page's Avatar Nicholas J Page

    If the Turi. Shroud is real you would have to make a very clear picture of Jesus Christ by pressing the cloth onto the face then hope it makes a good impression.But on the other hand.How could it last for centuries with out it fading a true picture and the Shroud remaining in one piece come on seriously and all the technology we have today and experts it can't be real surely leave it to the experts pictures fade over time and who says the cloth won't disengrate over the years.And handle by so many people I have taken lot's of people to the mortuary and they had a shroud that was put on the deceased and they never had face coverings of any sort and I'm not or ever have been a mortician.

    1. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

      The reality is that if this shroud was ever wrapping a dead human, it would not take on the dimensions of a photograph, but instead will look more like this: https://in.pinterest.com/pin/flat-face--427701295861168740/

      Also, John 20 very importantly describes the shroud entirely different than this "photo" from Turin: 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. 7 and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus' head, not lying with the linen cloths but folded up in a place by itself.

  1. Daniel-David's Avatar Daniel-David

    I wonder if the AI model that they used simply didn’t have enough information or images to create an accurate representation. Luther was convinced Jesus looked like a European not a middle Eastern prophet, without a dental plan.

    Suppose it a Japanese AI model they used?

    It just might be one of those ‘unsearchable things that we do not know.’

  1. NLilly's Avatar NLilly

    A.I. GOT IT WRONG! PERIOD!

    As a collaborator with a.i., namely the Dall-e, (text to images) that tool cannot even decipher the word HOLY BIBLE! Neither can it decipher the word LOVE!

    Also, it is very much IMPERFECT! Presenting many Images (from WRITTEN words) with missing or deformed fingers, gross facial features, especially when asking for black images, they ALWAYS come out MARRED! OMGOODNESS! What's In that THING! Even Teddy Bears comes out with Extra Legs, Missing arms, etc. I find collaborating with that device / machine to be a pain and sometimes highly INSULTING!

    So, to conclude all of this? STOP TRUSTING IN A.I.! It IS IMPERFECT IN SO MANY DESIGNS! I HAVE PROOF! And, That Is Not The Biblical Description of YAHUSHA-JESUS CHRIST! STOP THE NONSENSE! FOR REAL!

    1. Rick Smith's Avatar Rick Smith

      AI research consists of finding mechanisms that do things we think requires intelligence. There is always a mismatch between the mechanism and the goal. These systems don't apply "intelligence" except in a very narrow sense. The results look impressive so people are charmed by them.

      In this case the mechanism takes existing data to predict "reasonable" answers to a query. But "reasonable" isn't the same as "true." The results will always reflect the prejudices embedded in the data.

      1. NLilly's Avatar NLilly

        Smiling .... "The results will always reflect the prejudices embedded in the data." RS// or, in the wicked heart of its creator! Why create something that doesn't recognize the Holy Bible? Nor can spell the word LOVE! Even after I've spelled it out over and over again, in the text to image creations!

        Also, a person can upload a picture and have a.i. technology add to it or subtract from it. I've never uploaded any of my pictures because I'm not interested in that part. Yet, people have a tendency of praising and glorifying a.i.. Oh Please! Cut It Out Already! A.I. Text to Images is pretty dumb!

        WORD To The Real Artists Out There: YOU NEED NOT WORRY! A.I. IS INFERIOR! PERIOD!

        IMO, they fed an image into an a.i. software to see what they'll come up with. Then try and validate it talking about it's from the Shroud of Turin. That 'Shroud' has been Debunked years ago! Who Are They Kidding? What an Epic Fail! Also, the facial measurements of the 'Shroud' Don't Match that so-called pic of the Fake JESUS! What A JOKE! ALL AROUND!

  1. Melinda Fulk's Avatar Melinda Fulk

    The Shroud has been confirmed a face with radiocarbon and other dating methods. Although it is impressive looking - I got to see it at a museum show in Atlanta over 30 years ago.

    Also, Jesus would have been a person of color, probably looking more North African or Near Southeast Asian.

    It's still a very moving picture.

  1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

    The image looks nothing like Jesus, if they are referring to the guy from south of the border that’s cuts my grass. Plus, my gardener isn’t dead yet, even though he looks as though he is at times. It’s my guess that it’s another long haired guy, possibly an illegal immigrant hiding in a shroud that went tragically wrong, that lived a thousand years ago. I guess we’ll never know 🤷🏼

    🦁❤️

  1. Daniel Ginther's Avatar Daniel Ginther

    Anyone who believes the shroud is real is plain crazy. God let no depiction of Christ exist for a reason, if you don't know or can't figure out why I can't help you.

  1. Christy Wilkinson's Avatar Christy Wilkinson

    Thats just all kinds of wrong, especially since its an 'AI' manufactured image. AI is 100% not intelligent and 100% the opposite of God. If we are meant to know what Jesus looks like to our limited human eyes, we would be shown clearly, by Himself. One thing can be extrapolated based on types of populations in His area at the time of His physical manifestation, and that is most likely He had a pleasantly robustly melanated skin, and dark hair, unlike those that migrated to the north lands and mutated, becoming pale and non melanated over time due to the climate.

  1. Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.'s Avatar Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.

    Jesus' DNA on the masculine side came from an angel, so of course He did not look like any man living in His community. God works in mysterious ways, e.g. the mistranslation of the Bible of "young woman" to "virgin" in the future created a change in the past, where Jesus had Angel DNA.

    Artificial Intelligence is, artificial. Good Artificial Intelligence will make up whatever "facts" that the most people happen to want to believe.

    1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      No. No angel. No angelic DNA. The bible supports nothing you said.

      It does support Jesus having the DNA of Mary and the spirit/life for e of God.

      Young woman and virgin use the same word with the context being the defining attribute. As written Jesus would be born of a virgin who happened to be young.

  1. Katherine Luetta Gonzalez's Avatar Katherine Luetta Gonzalez

    The key being it is created by "artificial intelligence". Said program does not have enough facts to make an accurate pic. Therefore, not Jesus' face. Also, it is not geographically, physically accurate. Shroud radiocarbon dated to middle ages, so not time accurate. Nothing about this can be called accurate.

  1. Joc James Antonio Anderson's Avatar Joc James Antonio Anderson

    Totally fake! Read Isaiah’s take on the aura and essence of Jesus. Isaiah 53: 1-3. “He had no beauty that people would be drawn to him.” “Ordinary in appearance.” Enough of this shenanigans!

    1. Peter Senderowitz's Avatar Peter Senderowitz

      Rightchar!

  1. Johnny Rivas's Avatar Johnny Rivas

    I’ve seen an 3d image and his nose was broken and that doesn’t look like the image I seen

  1. Chukuma Okadigwe's Avatar Chukuma Okadigwe

    Sad indeed! How gullible can we be? So, AI is the Wizard Forger of a new Golden Calf for us bots to dance around?

  1. David A Foreman's Avatar David A Foreman

    Nope. That still looks like all-American white-boy Republican Jesus to me. No. Just no.

  1. Paul Andrew Breda's Avatar Paul Andrew Breda

    I have no doubt Jesus was crucified. But I believe the Gospel narratives of the crucifixion were created to validate scripture in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament). I can't know for sure, but if the shroud verifies Gospel accounts, in my mind it proves its inauthenticity.

  1. Kathryn Darcy Smith's Avatar Kathryn Darcy Smith

    YEAH... A WHITE GUY? NOT. France is where Christ went and lived out his days, so the shroud LOCATION made sense at least. Don't believe me about France and Christ's family? DO YOUR RESEARCH!

    1. Rev. BH's Avatar Rev. BH

      "DO YOUR RESEARCH!" - how QAnon!

  1. Michael Sciulli's Avatar Michael Sciulli

    Fallow the Bible you will not go wrong read book revelation you see what is comming accepted Jesus as savior from minster michael

  1. Ronald Francis Cox's Avatar Ronald Francis Cox

    What it proves is that the Shroud of Turin is not Jesus. Jesus would have been shorter, had shorter hair and Mideastern facial features with darker skin.

  1. Donald J. Winfield's Avatar Donald J. Winfield

    I'll go with the carbon dating done many years ago. The shroud wouldn't be authentic if the material is from the mid 1300s. It also seems that the man known as Jesus would logically be of a darker complexion, if he came from where the Bible says.

    1. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

      I'll go both with that and what the Bible says about the real shroud:

      John 20:7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. 7 and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus' head, not lying with the linen cloths but folded up in a place by itself.

      Likewise if this was laid over a corpse, it would not take on a photograph style view. The sides of his head would be laid flat, since the cloth would be in contact with his head all the way around, and not just floating out front and behind like a pair of mirrors.

  1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

    this is funny, people arguing the back story for a fictional character as if it were (or had been) a living person. it's like trying to argue the motivation for spiderman based on how people think spiderman should be motivated. simple nonsense and wishful or magical thinking.

  1. Thomas Payette's Avatar Thomas Payette

    In my lifetime of 55 years I have not understood what purpose it serves to know the face of Jesus. Our Lord's face is less of an importance than our faith in him and God. After some thought. I have a concern that this may be likend to idol worship.

    My question than becomes. Will this placing importance on the appearance of Jesus. Will then more people worship at or to images of Jesus? Remember, God said not to worship idols. Therefore in worshipping the face, or other images of Jesus, people could be worshipping an image or idol? Is this truly a practice we wish to endorse?

  1. Samanthae Donnelly's Avatar Samanthae Donnelly

    This face seems too Caucasian to actually be someone from where Jesus is purported to originate. Also, the shroud of Turin was examined by experts and it was deduced that the cloth is not old enough to be real.

  1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

    Christians are so gullible. Looky here - Jesus magically painted his face on my grilled cheese sammich. It's a miracle! Gimme money! https://www.amazon.com/The-Grilled-Cheesus-Sandwich-Press/dp/B00DD0P0TK/ref=sr_1_2?crid=13ACNSNH7GXGB&keywords=jesus+toaster&qid=1704198821&sprefix=jesus+toaster%2Caps%2C218&sr=8-2

  1. Rev. J. Blaine's Avatar Rev. J. Blaine

    C'mon man, using the Turin shroud to depict the face of Jesus is like using a halloween mask to show what God looks like. The Turin shroud has been dated to over 1,000 year AFTER Jesus was dead. You guys must really be hurting for content!

    1. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

      It's true. I saw a mask of Michael Meyers from the Halloween series, and I swore it was actually a mask of William Shatner!

  1. John Casillo's Avatar John Casillo

    Rev john..................It appears that most comments seem to be a kind of debate.....want to know something about God?.....look into the eyes of your beloved pets

  1. Samuel Tamayo's Avatar Samuel Tamayo

    Carbon dating, wrong time period. 😑

  1. Thomas P. Davis's Avatar Thomas P. Davis

    It seems to me that He would not go against His own written word. So the picture on the shroud has to be fake.1Co 11:14  Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

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