San Antonio Mayor Ivy Taylor

San Antonio Mayor Ivy Taylor

A Texas mayor caused quite a stir when she made comments implying that Godlessness caused poverty. San Antonio Mayor Ivy Taylor was fielding questions at a public forum prior to the city’s recent mayoral election when she was asked:

“What do you see as the deepest, systemic causes of generational poverty in San Antonio?”

Mayor Taylor’s response raised more than a few eyebrows:

“To me, it’s broken people. People not being in relationships with their creator and therefore not being in good relationship with their families and their communities and not being productive members of society.”

“I am a born again Christian, a believer in Jesus Christ,” she said. “I draw very heavily on that as far as the strength to do this job.”

Backlash

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the mayor’s comments were met with immediate criticism. Although roughly 6 in 10 San Antonio residents identify as Christian, critics noted, what message is Mayor Taylor sending to the other 40% of the population?

The remarks prompted a pointed response from the Freedom From Religion Foundation:

“As mayor, you represent a diverse population that consists of not only Christians, but also atheists, agnostics, Jews, Muslims, and Hindus… Nationally, about 35 percent of millennials are nonreligious. Imagine for a moment a mayoral candidate making such undeserved and broad accusations against Jews or Muslims instead of nonbelievers. The outcry would properly be swift and severe. It should be no different for nonbelievers.”

A Christian family standing before a crossAnnie Gaylor, a co-president of the FFRM, worries that other politicians will now feel emboldened to let their religious beliefs influence political decisions: “As mayor, [Ivy Taylor] has a bully pulpit, but it shouldn’t be an actual pulpit,” Gaylor argued. “It implies the root of all bad things is Godlessness. …San Antonio is not a congregation. She’s not a pastor. She’s a mayor. We do hope that she’ll realize not just what’s offensive about it, but that it is so wrong.”

Faith and Family

Mayor Taylor appears to believe that Christian faith is the bedrock of a successful society. That without first establishing a relationship with one’s creator, a person might struggle to form a strong connection with their family or become a contributing member of the community. In her mind, being a healthy, productive member of society means putting God first. If you neglect this duty, you could end up in poverty. Is there truth to this view?

Does Religion Make You Rich?

Critics have been quick to highlight statistics which indicate the contrary. For example, among the list of “most religious states in the U.S.” are Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Arkansas. Members of the “Bible Belt”, these states also happen to be among the poorest in the country. “So, what gives?” ask critics.

Mayor ApologizesA sign reading 'God Bless Texas'.

Mayor Taylor posted an apology on her Facebook page, insisting her comments were misunderstood:

I have devoted my life to breaking the chains of generational poverty… I’ve done so because of my faith in God and my belief in Jesus’s ministry on Earth. I believe we are all called on to help lift our brothers and sisters out of poverty.

I also believe in Original Sin, and that was the context for my comments. We’re all “broken,” from the richest among us to the poorest, until we forge a relationship with our Maker.

Despite her follow up statement, many non-religious San Antonians continue to express disapproval, insisting she should keep her Christian faith out of the public arena entirely. However, religious supporters have rallied around the mayor, proud that she has the courage to stick by her strong beliefs.

What do you think? Did the mayor step out of line? Does a lack of faith in God really cause poverty?

 

54 comments

  1. William w. George says:

    Poverty is caused by the lack of money in a monitory system controlled by the greedy S O B ‘s in corporate businesses, and supported by A Hole polition’s who chose to support a failed and discrimitory system, i’ve worked all my life ,where the HELL is mine ,you …!^*#^

    1. JOHN MAHER says:

      YOU SAID it WILLY, RIGHT ON, 100%, POVERTY is CAUSED by GREED, TRUMP and REPUBLICAN GREED !!!

      1. John Owens says:

        Yeah, John. Democrat greed never hurt anyone. When they lie and steal it’s to help themselves, not some corporation. Putz.

        1. Amber Fry says:

          All politicians. I wouldn’t focus on just democrats in this. Republicans have their fair share of guilt. They are the ones who think it best to save money by dropping programs that actually teach people how to decent living make a living and get off assistance.

          1. John Owens says:

            Like I said, when Democrats lie and steal it is okay. It is horrible of Republicans to think we should each spend our own money.

    2. Rev paul collins says:

      William very well said and so true

  2. Bernard Moleman says:

    So sad this woman gave in to liberal tears. Poverty is a choice, and anti-Christian. God punishes nonbelievers. Just look at the gay plague AIDS.

    1. Stephen Wehrenberg says:

      Are you serious? Is this sarcasm?

      1. Paul Hoogeveen says:

        One would hope it’s sarcasm.

        1. Brother John says:

          If you read other comments by Bernard, you’d realize this is not a joke. He is, but his comments appear to be sincere, albeit delusional and disturbing. But, hey, this is the ULC and all are welcome.
          He may be under the influence of Creflo Dollar and other Prosperity Preachers.

          1. Bernard Moleman says:

            And I would image that you are under the influence of pot smoking sodomite demons. If you read the BIBLE it is clear that Jesus gives wealth to believers and punishes losers who hate Him. The good men in the video earned their wealth from God. You are a jealous atheist loser.

          2. claude says:

            Mr Moleman, it is apparent you never received an education, that’s unfortunate. Where you mention atheists being losers I believe you’ve once again confused yourself. Christianity is the only sport where the winners are losers.

    2. John Owens says:

      There ARE plagues that bother believers and practitioners of faith LESS than they bother non-believers. Why would that be difficult to understand? Someone who practices NOT fornicating spends less money trying to attract other fornicators. Reasonable? TOTALLY! Women who practice NOT fornicating are 100% less likely to have children out of wedlock, making them more able to continue their education and/or careers, PLUS, they have fewer mouths to feed.

      Real believers are much less likely to be substance abusers, since they feel a responsibility to something greater than themselves to be lucid. Since they do NOT have a big substance abuse problem, they do not spend on the substance, and are more able to hold a job, less likely to be fined by the court, and less likely to be involved in crime associated with the substance abuse.

      Real believers are also less likely to be involved in ANY kind of crime, because of their BELIEFS. This helps keep them out of gangs, out of trouble, out of prison, and in a job.

      I don’t see how political correctness can deny these obvious benefits to being believers. I don’t think it’s limited to Christianity, although that is the proclaimed faith of the woman in this article. I think people aren’t listening to the whole story here. How could unbelief NOT cause poverty?

      1. John Owens says:

        Why is this comment still awaiting moderation? Did you need to have a meeting?

      2. Brian Chisholm says:

        What a load of bullshit, and also very presumptuous of you to feel you know what is in the hearts and minds of others. Kindness and compassion for your fellow human is not limited to the religious. And how great is it that some don’t feel held responsible to a higher power to do what is right by others . I don’t think I will be ultimately punished for my actions by a God, but still feel held to the belief that if you can help others and leave this world a better place you should. Don’t be so self -righteous, it fairly unchristian although widely practiced.

        1. Bernard Moleman says:

          CHRISTIANS don’t rape and murder out of fear of the holy retribution of God. This is why we are such good and kind people. Unfortunately atheists don’t have this morality and that is why they murder babies and commit sodomy all of the time. Muslims also lack this morality beacuse their god tells them to beat women.

          1. Joe Stutler says:

            Apparently you’ve never read the Bible. It’s pretty messed up, how much that imaginary sky fairy orders rapes and killings and such. Also, lots and lots of Christians in prison for rape and murder.
            Atheists don’t murder babies (virtually no one does…murder is a crime, after all). As for “sodomy”, it isn’t a crime.
            Muslims are just as good – and just as bad – as Christians and Jews. They all worship the same god, so that’s not really surprising.
            Circle back when you know what the eff you’re talking about (or when you get your coproencephaly treated).

          2. Stephen Wehrenberg says:

            This HAS to be sarcasm. It can’t be real. You got us, Brian! Hilarious.

            Just for the record, I’m a lifelong atheist (66) and have not yet murdered any babies, Nor do I commit sodomy all the time.

      3. claude cuff says:

        John Owens, you need to have your Dr. adjust your medication. Your commentary indicates you are suffering from delusional thoughts, and likely should not be allowed outside your home. Get help!

      4. Dennis Butler says:

        People don’t need belief in any god to refrain from bad behavior. Lot’s of people who truly believe in your god do exhibit bad behavior. Hell, your entire faith is based on that premise. You going to tell me your Adam and Eve didn’t believe in god? They are supposed to have talked to the guy, although even THEY never actually SAW him, just like everyone else in the bible, like Moses, Noah, etc.. But that’s another conversation.

    3. Joe Stutler says:

      Poverty is a choice? Is your comment the result of your choice to be ignorant or the result of your mother’s choice to give birth to someone with obvious end-stage coproencephaly?
      Your god isn’t real, by the way. Even the Goddess Anoia laughs at you.

      1. claude cuff says:

        Now Joe, Owens is probably from Texas and voted for Mayor Taylor. And lets not forget that other rightwingnut from Texas, George Bush #2, he too said some very bizarre things. They’re everywhere!

      2. Bob Squires says:

        To say, “poverty is a choice” is probably in its self a poor choice of words. What is a fact is that poverty is mainly driven by people who make bad choices. Not just once, but repeatedly and that is what the younger generations learn. You see poor families who, through several generations, parents are not married and in many cases, there is not a father living in the home who provides for the family either financially or emotionally. The primary reason it is called generational poverty is that young children do not have a good or successful role model in the elder members of the family. Consequently, all they know is what they see and learn from their elders.

        1. Tom says:

          Bob…on a temporal level, i agree with you…but on a spiritual level, which includes karma, there is no choice, as the poverty is the result of, and remedy for, previous lives involving money…Tom

    4. Magic179 says:

      You are an idiot, but I’m sure you knew that already!

  3. Reed Mathis says:

    As a Calivinist Huguenot, I believe God has predestined his believers to be more successful and have more bountiful lives than nonbelievers. That does not necessarily mean richer in money, as there are other ways to be rich.

  4. Minister Norman says:

    YES, because “Jesus was all about the Benjamin’s”… And poverty & disease are “god’s curse”…

    Funny how so many “Born Again(s)” preach that hateful gospel, until it hits home; like a Tornado wooshing their dreams away, or a Cancer killing their loved ones!

    What arrogant/ignorant Rubes, and how insulting to both “People of Faith” and Free-Thinkers alike.

    If any part of this clueless woman’s hapless statement was even remotely true, then why are there so many prosperous Athiets and non-religious folk Worldwide, and why also, are there so VERY MANY Faithful & Devout “Followers of Christ” living in abject proverty Worldwide?!

    Again, what myopic arrogance & ignorance!

    This kind of absolute stupidity “Guised as Religion”, doesn’t deserve anything but Condemnation!

    PS:

    Bernard Moleman, your comments also deserve Condemnation! Poverty is NOT a “Choice”, and for far too many Human Beings Worldwide; and AIDS is a laboratory engineered retro-virus (that is now a proven fact), that has effected promiscuous gay people worldwide, indeed (and as if too many straight people weren’t also sexually promiscuous), but it has also ruined the lives of innocent gay and straight lives alike; Worldwide; and I for one, believe Jesus would take pitty on all of them. What calous ignorance​.

    Thank GOD, I don’t believe in, or subscribe to your HATEFUL version of a small-minded vengeful anthropomorphic “god” or a money hungry, Darwinian “survival-of-fittest” plague weilding “jesus”.

    William W. George, you speak the truth! I couldn’t agree more.

    Jesus wasn’t preaching any “Prosperity Gospels” (that’s a “born again” (small “c”) christian Evangelical creation, but JESUS did Condemn the Money Changers, and the rich & powerful, and the greedy, and anyone who cannot forgive, and ALL LIARS!

    Bernard, I forgive you. Let’s hope “Your Jesus” does; and William, I think Jesus would whole-heartedly agree with you; if with less “colorful” language. LOL

    Ultimately, too many take the Bible as “The Absolute Word of God” because they either don’t​ know any better, or haven’t studied it’s true origins: Which is convenient for purposes of self-righteousness, and spewing hate!

    Jesus, wasn’t what most paint him to be (as their own personal bledgion), but he did say a lot about LOVE, and SHARING, and FORGIVENESS!

    I believe in an enlightened forgiving “Higher Power” — Or then, just how HIGH & MIGHTY could it actually be?

    God save us from ourselves!

    1. John Owens says:

      You are injecting “hate” here, where there is none, so, in essence, you are creating it. This woman said nothing offensive, but you attribute a lot of offensive thought (of which you cannot know, unless you are truly psychic) to normal Christians in general. Just because you hate evangelicals does not mean THEY are full of hate. I am not an evangelical, but they make PRETTY DECENT neighbors. You might consider that, and I furthermore submit that OFTEN people suffer financial distress DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR CHOICES, and/or their parents or families’ choices. When a whole community continues making those choices, POVERTY IS INEVITABLE. If they have no hope in God, who tells us not to be lazy and irresponsible or criminal, their only hope is in the lottery, which is a huge waste of money for poor people, or the government, which cannot efficiently operate anything. Why would you rob them of the hope in God?

  5. JOHN MAHER says:

    I believe POVERTY CAUSES a LACK of FAITH in GENERAL NOT just TOWARDS GOD but EVEN MORE in HUMANITY, EVER BEEN THERE ???

  6. Amy says:

    This floored me. While I am not a christian, I have seen enough broken families from all faiths to know that religion doesn’t cause poverty, but has caused many a broken home. Though I haven’t seen it as much lately I know growing up in the 80s many kids who ran away from home due to a very strict religious(not just christian) household.

  7. John Owens says:

    It is not inconceivable that belief in God and trying to follow God will decrease poverty. Religious people are less likely to use drugs or drink heavily. They are also less likely to gamble heavily, commit crime, and have single parent households. Statistically those are huge contributors to poverty, particularly when whole communities are participating in them. I really don’t see the problem with what the mayor said.

    1. Joe Stutler says:

      No, they have their own special hells that they inflict on their families and society. The mayor is obviously delusional, arrogant, and rude. She’s but one example of why we need far better mental health services in our nation.

      1. John Owens says:

        Gosh, Joe. Your venom is completely over-the-top here. You have your own mental and emotional issues, like everyone else, but you are being completely bigoted and judgmental just as you think others are. Church-going people do not inflict hell on other people, at worst, they don’t inflict more than anyone else.

        1. Joe Stutler says:

          Westboro Baptist is but one example of the hate and bile inflicted on our society by delusional god-botherers.
          Many believers are decent people. Certainly not all of them, not by a long shot.

    2. Amber Fry says:

      Actually studies show they have a higher degree of people who use drugs or drink heavily. Jails are also roughly 75% Christians depending on the polls you read. The idea is that if God forgives and a belief in Jesus guarantees you a seat in heaven then what does it matter? I have heard this directly from many Christians from all over. It’s a gross misunderstanding of how it works. Christianity teaches charity and humility at its depths, things lacking horribly these days across all sects these days.

  8. Tom says:

    Actually, if you take away the religion aspect of God, it is true that a lack of knowledge of God causes spiritual (and, with lesser import) poverty…i read what the mayor said as trying to bring people together, although she uses too much emphasis on religion

  9. Richard Filaski says:

    The mayor is correct. Believing in God helps to develop values in the home and in the person. Without both we generate a person of crime. This a fact based on statistics.

    1. Brother John says:

      The Bible/Jesus sure has some great advice regarding family values, doesn’t it, RF?

      “I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.” Matthew 10:35-36

      “And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life”.
      Matthew 19:29, Mark 10:29-30, Luke 18:29-30

  10. Marius Gabriel Burja UBACK Möbius Galactic Storm Marymoose Quantum 4/14 says:

    Every one has an interpreter. Mine is in me and me in him. Love of money is the root of all evil. A faithful servant is rich in the holy spirit. The fruit of the holy spirit is TRUTH. Truth is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. The lamb is vulnerable the lions are the money makers.

    They are the slave master of SINFULNESS who use people for money. Honoring God with all your heart and soul along with your abilities you aquire from knowledge of God and work skills Understanding that your doings are a major part which brings you to wisdom. We are not to fear God but to love God in His way and that is to become a living saint a holy spirit temple body of Jesus Christ. Jesus gave Judas the money task and outed him as Satan. So Judas took his life to enter back in the spirit realm.

    All who have money are his minions. A wise man has wisdom as his commodity and only keeps God as his provider. A wise man is a lion and a lamb. He is THE LION WHO PROTECTS THE LAMB AND NOT DEVOURS IT BECAUSE IT IS NOT A THREAT TO HIM. HE feeds on the beasts who trample the lambs. They go running streaking and stampeding with great destruction. A TRUE Lion enjoys peace and being the King of the jungle. He takes on challenges not feeding on easy pray. They do not bother with mice who go about their business. A lion can lay in the pasture with the lamb. What happened to that Lion?

    Man kind happened to that Lion? Mankind started hunting that Lion through observations of the nature of the beast. Then man kind because the beast who started hunting other men and enslaving them. Yet the lions because caged slaves to Mankind no longer King of jungle. The lioness is a worriorette and the lion a tool for governance. The pride kills all the lambs. Then has to go up the food chain. The bigger they are the harder they fall. Yet they don’t see the little ones untill spring comes along and surprise!!!!! Jesus is here.

    To collect that which is His. Time to pay for your sins and corrupting the lions by teaching them bad behavior while you led by example and stole food from the lion. As Marius Gaius was the Lion of Judah He is now back as His son was Gabriel Jesus the Christ you all crossed. The messenger angel of God. Not only did you cross him but you cut off the head of Michael John the Baptist. He too belonged to God. Now God will burn you if you do not turn back power to His lambs that you slaughtering pigs kill in the name of peace. Need I say more? You killed the prophets by driving them away and they couldn’t live amongst you. They were overwhelmed by your evil doings secluded themselves and disappeared while wondering off into the wilderness and taken up in the same tower of light in Gods solar system.

    You forget that there is a Creator and the wind of His breath spoke all into existence. I am His son and sun. His breathing moves me. Solar wind and earthly winds as well as the Universal wind of all planetary chain reactions. I will now use my words to fire you all up with passion and cut you to the bone with truth of my tung as the cold northern wind does chill you because you do not know what I am and you do not believe even when you see and hear. You look for more explanation and you make up your own belief other then the truth I tell you that My Heavanly Father sent me.

    To be a guiding light. I am his messenger and now I will harvest souls and reap the fields of grains and slaughter all your animals that you count on for food. You will be left starving and naked in the cold ice age that has begun in June of 2015 because you didn’t not honor my real Birthday and you made a mockery of me in December and made my life a muck A swamp. Now you will sink in the mud and freeze as every season I will intensify the storms. I loved you all untill you oppressed me suppressed me depressed me and destroyed my life my wife and my family and then to top it all off you blamed me for it and many are confused no longer believing in me and my sacrifice.
    You will roast or freezer burn as I do not care about you since you do not care about me.

    All of you will die and I will turn this planet into the same as the other planets because I hold the key and the key is me. Always was is and will be me. Marius Gabriel Burja UBACK Universal Born Again Christian King of the Kings of the world that My Universal father God created. It is all in his will the Bible is His book of love life testament of a living God. It is HIS WILL TO ME AND MY DEED TO THE PLANET AND THE UNIVERSE. NOW GO AND SEARCH BY THE TIME YOU FIND I WILL TAKE A THIRD OF THE WORLD POPULATION AND YÖU DID NOT SEE ME COMING. I AM HERE IN WILMETTE ILLINOIS USA I AM ER TO THE THRONE AND I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT TO THIS WORLD.
    JUDGEMENT IS NOW. FEEL MY WRATH. I AM AMERICAN ROMANIAN​ ARAB HEBREW I am all NATIONALITIES IN ONE MAN BODY FORM AND I AM BREWING UP THE STORMS. LICK MY BOOTS AND FEET YOU FILTHY BEASTS AND ANIMALS WHO DENY ME JOY AND PEACE AND MY KINGDOM.
    🔥❄💨🌌
    I am WATER WALKER NORTHERN RANGER WIND STORM OF TRUTH. I am also Mahdi US Gabriel Alla Burja. Enjoy your living hell that you created but I will walk this planet eternaly until I decide to do something else. Good bye RELIGION HELLO FAITH. NEW WORLD.
    I am the missing link to the JIGSAW puzzle I am the key and no one can have me. The end of you and beginning of ewe, me. Eat me. As you have crumb by crumb now I will drink your blood. I am Earth wind fire and water. Flesh of God Spirit of God and I mind what YOU HAVE DONE. YOU HAVE OFFENDED ME FOR THE LAST TIME.

  11. Amy says:

    I really think it comes down to a person’s morals which can develop without a religious backing. I know quite a few Atheists and there are some most moral people I have come across so I can’t really understand why people believe you have to be christian to be a good person. morals and religion are not mutually exclusive. All the religions that I have studied or heard about still have moral beliefs they advice for their faithful. Especially if you’re in the public eye using statements such as High Power, the Divine, and such labels would cover the many faiths rather than coming across as .. If you’re not a christian then you’re morally corrupt.

  12. Steve Wehrenberg says:

    Please share the source with us.

  13. Paul D Gilbert says:

    There is nothing wrong with the mayor stating her perspective, even though it is a religious one. She said “To me, it’s broken people. People not being in relationships with their creator and therefore not being in good relationship with their families and their communities and not being productive members of society.” Clearly “broken” people, poor family/community relationships, and not being productive are part of the problem. I doubt the relationship with creator part but I have to admit there is some evidence that a religious viewpoint is correlated with greater success. The backlash people are out of line. The mayor made no “undeserved and broad accusations”; she didn’t make any accusations at all. I’m not religious myself but I support free speech. The “Freedom From Religion” people are trying to censor a perspective they don’t like. Being open to all perspectives is better for society. Her comments should be a starting point for discussion. We need to defend free speech from people who think they have a right to not be offended and not hear viewpoints with which they disagree.

  14. Amber Fry says:

    Oy… Atheism has nothing to do with it. Lack of a combination of education and confidence is what causes poverty. Greed and selfishness of the wealthy is what causes poverty. Laws made by morally bankrupt millionaire and billionaire level politicians is what causes poverty.

    1. Joe Stutler says:

      Truth.
      Gods have nothing to do with it…. except perhaps to further deplete scarce resources from the struggling worshipers into the coffers of the church/mosque/temple/etc.

  15. Dawn says:

    Greed contributes to poverty. When we do not value equality or humans, when we focus on self and not us or try to capitalize on suffering we have poverty. Not all beings believe in a god or they may have a different perception about or relationship with god. Although religion is helpful for establishing faith, compassion and kindness , people are capable of cultivating these traits with out it if the develop or have the right mindset. Meditation can develop the mind. Charity can develop the mind. Giving and even reading positive info can develop a good mind.

  16. Rev. Ned says:

    My God does not hate the poor. My God love atheists because they don’t go around killing people, then claiming He made ’em do it.

  17. The Prophet of Life says:

    There are many causes of poverty. Atheism, in and of itself doesn’t cause poverty. There are an awful lot of rich atheists in the world. Poverty is primarily caused by lack of opportunity, lack of education or bad choices. Some may argue that people who lack faith have a disadvantage when it comes to peace of mind during life’s trials and tribulations but people with stoic values usually overcome life’s trials and tribulations because they believe that they are inevitable and prepare to weather them, irregardless of whether or not they believe in God.

  18. Victor Reichstein says:

    Poverty is caused by a lack of education. When one cannot think for themselves, due to lack of critical thinking skills, they tend to follow rather than lead.
    Understanding what God wants from us, or expects from us, must be obtained through personal understanding, not through what others tell us the word means.

  19. B. E. Scott says:

    Her beliefs are based in pure ignorance. That’s what they get for electing a religious nut to government office.

  20. Dennis Butler says:

    There are far more hardcore Christians in POOR neighborhoods than there are in more affluent neighborhoods. I live near Detroit, and the place has a church on every corner and they get PACKED with all kinds of god-fearin’ folk every week. They are deeply religious. And poor. So was jesus.

  21. Name (required)PH says:

    Poverty in the US is caused by the extreme wealth imbalance. Working people create wealth, the top 2% take almost all of it and leave a tiny percentage of it for the working classes who created it. It’s because of not just greed, but more than that–wealth addiction. A wealth junkie needs more and more to get their fix, they never feel they have enough. We live in a country in which the number one career choice for psychopaths is CEO (google “top ten careers for psychopaths” to see.) This is because the way business runs in the US, psychopaths excel at it. Psychopathic capitalism is a perversion of what capitalism is supposed to be: a great system that rewards hard work, innovation and honest competition.

    Lack of belief in God didn’t cause this. I’ve known Atheists who donated a lot of their time and money to help the needy. What caused this is a lack of empathy, a lack of personal integrity and a sense of entitlement that staggers the imagination. Belief in God doesn’t cure these problems. The cure is to develop a sense of justice, because it’s unjust that the people who make the products and provide the services should only receive the barest fraction of the worth of what they provide.

  22. Revd John says:

    Some of the richest countries in the world have the majority of the world’s atheist. Scandinavia, Britain, France, New Zealand, Germany, Australia etc. The woman is a buffoon and needs to do more research before she speaks. As I have stated before, Jesus would not be in America because as far as he knew – it did not exist – the earth was flat and Spain and the Sahara was as farthest west you could go. His father obviously hadn’t taught him much geography!

  23. william Fox says:

    From my own experience, the fundamentals of the statement are completely true. In any or all of the aspects of life, where God is not present, there is no or less prosperity than where God is full involved.

  24. Sister Anna says:

    If you dig seriously into the origins of the Abrahamic religions you find that what is in the Christian Bible is heavily edited, redacted, and altered to fit particular biases. The roots of this set of religions go back many thousands of years but what we have today bears very little resemblance to what it was back when. Thus, Biblical accounts are inaccurate at best and possibly even wildly fictional.

    But let’s assume, for the sake of argument that the Gospels are reasonably accurate. In these accounts who did Jesus hang out with? It wasn’t with the elite of his society, nor the wealthy, nor the pure of heart, nor the powerful and influential. It was with the poor, the derelict, those beset by problems mental, physical, and spiritual. And his thesis is that you should try to better their lot, regardless of whether they agree with you regarding religion or not. And it is true, a hungry man cannot think clearly. But if you can get some food into him, ease his pain, get him to think clearly, perhaps you can reason with him.

    Does this mean, to borrow the phrase, “My way or the highway.”? In my opinion, not. We are all individuals. That you have brought someone to the point where they can see what you are offering does not mean they have to accept it. They might be fine without it – that is for them to decide.

    If you want to sell someone your message, don’t shove it down his throat. Lead by example. If he sees value in what you are doing, he might well sign on. If he doesn’t, remember we all approach these fundamental issues each in our own way. What is valid for me is not necessarily valid for you, and vice versa. Religion is not a one-size-fits-all deal.

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