slave painting from 1800s
The original writers of slave spirituals are largely lost to history.

When churches sing songs on Sunday morning, they pay royalties to the original authors or owners of that particular piece of music. But many slave spirituals, a mainstay for church choirs all across the country, have no known author, estate, or descendants to pay royalties to.

One Boston church hopes to make that right, and has come up with a clever way to pay their dues for their use of slave spirituals – literally.

Righting Wrongs by Paying for Songs

It was after the murder of George Floyd in May 2020 when church leadership at United Parish in Brookline began reckoning with their use of spirituals largely composed by enslaved Africans on plantations.

The majority-white church grew increasingly uncomfortable with singing those songs, knowing that, unlike other songs performed in the church, the original creators never received money or credit for their art.

They looked at the Black Lives Matter sign in their church, and wondered if they were living up to that ideal.

“What can make this right? What can make this not feel terrible? And how do we get through this?” minister of music Susan DeSelms recalls pondering.

They decided that they can’t fix the past, but they can create a brighter future.

"Today, we as a church will begin the practice of collecting ‘royalties’ for the spirituals we sing and worship,” DeSelms announced at a recent sermon. “Whenever we sing Negro spirituals, we will collect an offering that will support the development of Black musicians.”

Because the original authorship of most slave spirituals is lost to history, they’ve decided instead to pay it forward, and uplift the next generation of black musicians. They’ll be donating the ‘royalties’ to a local youth non-profit, Hamilton-Garrett Music and Arts, which is dedicated to the “development of Boston’s next generation of innovative artists through the celebration and preservation of Black music.”

How to properly pay homage to slave spirituals has been an increasingly big topic of conversation in churches across America in recent years.

Some congregations have brought in historians to give context to the lyrics, while others have invited musicians to describe how the slaves wrote the music. But this is likely the first time a church has actually paid royalties of a sort for singing spirituals.

They wanted to lead by example, hopeful that other churches across the country will follow suit.

Reckoning With the Past

Although they may be the only church paying royalties for spirituals, they’re not alone in reckoning with the sins of the past.

In 2019, the Virginia Theological Seminary announced a $1.7 million endowment fund for slavery reparations, hoping that it might be the first step in beginning to atone for their own slave-supporting past.

And in 2020, one historic NYC church announced that they were going to set aside one-tenth of their church budget to provide reparations for black New Yorkers.

Whether it’s in the form of royalties or reparations, churches across the country are trying to do their part to right America’s greatest sin. And it appears the summer of racial upheaval in 2020 has made this an even higher priority for many congregations. 

Still, not everyone agrees that monetary payouts are the right way to reckon with slavery. As one church leader was quoted saying, "individuals are responsible for their own sins, not for the sins of their father."

What do you think?

67 comments

  1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

    Wow! Soooooo much White Supremacy here! It's sickening.

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      Yes, I blame that white supremacist God of the Old Testament, David. He was such a nasty piece of work cursing Cain with a black skin for killing Abel, and then condoning slavery. And then, to top it all off, we had a somewhat white savior, and possibly white apostles, or so the stories go. A black savior would have been a nice touch by the authors, or even a black God. Anyway, the stories are what they are I guess. Thank goodness there is no evidence they are true.

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    2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      You ought to go see your doctor about that illness, David. That is, your psychiatrist.

      1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

        Whassamatter Carl? See yourself in my assessment?

    3. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

      I'd call it nationalist pride dear sir. Not gaslighting libtardism. Time to be a patriot and not an appeasiing freeloader

  1. SueW's Avatar SueW

    I’m shocked and disappointed to see so much privilege (and in some cases ignorance - I’m talking about you Pedro) in this group.

    We continue to benefit after all these years from the historical exploitation of slaves.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      You must be new around here, Sue. Some of our fellow ministers are far worse, but we are all children of the same universe. Have you met flugo yet?

    2. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

      Belch. Good leg there.

    3. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

      Ignorance. Calling sol e one Pedro is a sign of your own ignorance. Ignoramus.

  1. Rev. Dr. G. Waldron's Avatar Rev. Dr. G. Waldron

    I, like some, am sort of shocked at the ignorant (or should I say stupid) comments on the subject of slavery and blacks in general. There are a lot of godless commentators on here who feel compelled to say things that most Christ followers abhor. Yes, there are some who say they are Christians who follow the godless crowd in such topics. You can say you are a lamb, but if you like wallowing in mud and squeal like a pig; you are a pig.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Those christians always feel a need to be guilty about something. Most of them seem like self defeatists. Not only that, be but these are focused on the wrongs of others. Maybe it's a way for them to avoid looking at themselves, and seeking to make amends for their own wrongs. Maybe some of them even think they are fooling people into believing they are good people.

    2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      I think you will find that those who suggest they are godless is mostly because no one on earth has yet been able to come up with demonstrable evidence that any of the worlds gods, that people suggest they follow, actually exist. They only rely on faith, which of course we all know that no amount of faith makes anything fact.

      As Bertrand Russell once said: "Where there is evidence, no one speaks of faith'. We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence."

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      1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

        So, by your own quote here from Bertrand Russell, "Where there is evidence, no one speaks of faith", you don't have the evidence of "a mindless universe running itself", which I have asked you repeatedly to send me in a peer reviewed paper along with an example of a driverless and not remote controlled or computer programmed car driving itself and you haven't sent them, and so you should be calling atheism a faith, since that is what it clearly is!! "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"---Hebrews 11:1. That is the kind of "substance" and "evidence" that you have for "a mindless universe running itself" and for "prayers not being answered by anyone", which is more faith than I could ever have for them!! So, why are you, who have a more unrealistic and unreasonable faith than Christians do, criticizing our faith, since that is the whole pot factory's calling a single kettle "black"?!! There is a substance to some things that are hoped for and evidence for some things not seen, but "a mindless universe running itself" and "prayers not being answered by anyone" don't qualify for that substance or evidence standard, since that is reserved for things that can be achieved and become the truth, sometime, which excludes them!! Overweight people are right to believe that they can lose weight by dieting and exercising and to believe in that as yet unseen reality, since they can do so and have done so. Slaves and people under oppression by Communist or Nazi or other dictatorships are right to believe that they will be free again and hope and pray and strive for that as yet unseen reality, since it can and will happen and has happened many times in history. Other people are right to believe in the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen, since they can be achieved and be seen, someday, but no amount of your faith in "a mindless universe running itself" or "prayers not being answered by anyone" will ever make those things true!!!

      2. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

        You have more faith in your "mindless universe running itself" and "prayers not being answered by anyone" than we Christians have in our beliefs, since our beliefs are based on mindfulness coming out of mindfulness and something coming out of something. So, why are you criticizing our faith when you have a more unrealistic and unreasonable faith yourself, since that is hypocrisy and a double standard on your part?!! "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"---Hebrews 11:1. The Jews believed in the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen while they were waiting for the return to their ancestral land for thousands of years for the formation of the State of Israel, and their hope and faith helped or caused that day to come, without which it might not have ever come. So, some belief in the substance of things hoped for and evidence of things not seen is right and good, and there are many more such examples, but no amount of your atheistic faith will ever make the mindless universe start running itself or prayers not being answered by anyone!!

    3. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      I’m sure that you too are close to being a godless commentator if you don’t believe in the deities of Thor, Vishnu, Krishna, Brahma, Dionysus, Athena, Hermes, Poseidon, et al, to name just a few. I’m sure you have atheistic views on pretty much all of those, as I do, so if you do, you and I have a lot in common.

      Would I be correct in saying you believe in that other one that’s listed in what is called the Old and New Testament? I’m sure you know the one I mean, the one that never condoned slavery, and is supposed to have changed the color of a man’s skin for killing his brother…that one. I know, it’s a crazy story…right? Spoiler alert, people actually believe in it though, and even believe a woman was made from the rib of a man. As we are both Doctors, we know that’s not true…right? Please tell me you don’t believe in that story and give me some hope for the science we share.

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  1. The Gray Minister 's Avatar The Gray Minister

    I Minister Gray says I think this would be a good start.

    I have a great deal of many churches today because of what they buy. Some are doing a wonderful job of supporting many things that help many people all over the planet.

    But many I wonder. Fancy cars Fancy buildings Fancy Jewelry The list goes on and on.

    But yes I agree this would be a great thing to help the Black Community.

    I have another idea with what churches should do but how to make it happen with out the wrong people getting in the way and filling their pockets with money that could be used to change the future of the kids to come

    1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

      The best thing to help the black community would be to quit considering themselves victims. How about that. Then get a damn job. How about that. Quit using other peoples self pity. How about that. You make me sick. Then quit supporting communist organizations like BLM, ANTIFA, BLACK PANTHERS, etc. How about that. Anticolonial bs.

      1. Krystina S.'s Avatar Krystina S.

        Keith, your bigotry is astonishing and sad. You lack the most basic knowledge of history, to start with. You do not understand communism either. My family never had slaves, we are immigrants. However, that does not make us - as caucasian - indifferent or callous to the suffering of others. Shame on all of you who are expressing white "indignity" and racism.

        1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

          What I abhor are people who say I don't understand communism. The complacency thst you liberals have of embracing communism, and then gadlughting that it's great. Zsk the 70 million who died under Stalin, the untold millions under Lenin. Then let's begin with the millions under Mao dog dung, Ho Chi Minion, and Fidel Castration, Pol toilet bowl Pot, and then Venzuela. No you don't understand communism. Communism is godless and has no place in the Church or in Liberation Theology. And don't tell me Jesus Christ is a Communist and Christianity is Communism. You dneed to pull your head out of your liberal behind and study some real history. And please don't tell me I shouldn't make fun of dead political leaders responsible of millions of murders like Biden is of untold.millions of abortions here in the U.S. andvthe world over.

          1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

            Have you accepted Donald J. Trump as your personal Lord and Savior?

            1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

              No but I sure in hell will vote for him again since he still is the legitimately elected president.

              1. Ilmenheru Terikson's Avatar Ilmenheru Terikson

                You do know that speaking such lies as that prove you to not be an actual minister in good standing right?

                YO mods please report the aboves posts to the FBIs office in seattle. This guy may well have violence planned based on his posts.

  1. robert's Avatar robert

    What a bunch of horse manure! I don’t think there is any other need to offer any further comment!

    1. Gerardo Salazar's Avatar Gerardo Salazar

      Couldn’t agree more with you.

      1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        This could inspire many churches to quit singing slave spirituals.

  1. Robert Duff's Avatar Robert Duff

    I'm sure that the "Mickey Mouse Protection Act" time limit has expired on these songs.

  1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

    Give me a freaking break! Forgetting that by now all the songs that are sung in praise in churches worldwide are in the public domain which means there are NO royalties that need to be sent in...this is just another example of white pity. And that is nothing more then one group of people demanding money for something that does not belong to them and other mentally short morons wanting to do what they are told by ignorant morons. I could see a royalty being paid if the song was inside the ownership of the writer, but even movies and books fall into public domain after a set amount of time. But hey maybe the Cherokee and Iroquois should demand this church send US money because the government they are living under was copied from our articles of confederation so using their logic, we deserve compensation as well. makes about as much sense as this does.

  1. Angel's Avatar Angel

    Isn't that what my taxes are paying for? Extra social benefits to African American who qualify for services based solely on the color of their skin that I pay but don't qualif for because of the color of skin? This is getting out of hand. I agree, slavery is wrong but it wasn't me nor my ancestors that owned slaves. I'm not privilaged and I won't pay for crimes I didn't commit. Society is changing, and if people want change, they need to set thir own racism aside and come together as a community to make those changes and ensure this never happens again. Instead, the pendulum is swinging the oppoposite direction an the demands won't do anything but fuel the hatred that already exsists. You want me to know how it feels to be discriinated because I'm white? I already know, because I have had many, many discriminations since childhood, and race is only but one. But I don't demand money, the change comes from how I chose to handle it. I don't like it, I don't think it's fair, nor I do I think it's fair for anyone. I have been raised to treat everyone according to who they are, I give the same respect back in return for respect given. I do not favor one group of people over the other. and THAT is what will bring upon change in my family line. I will support equality, I will not support the inequality of "paybacks" that's happening here because swinging the pendulum in the opposite direction only creates more hate and will never lead to the society we all strive to become.

    1. Donald Richard Starns's Avatar Donald Richard Starns

      You do know that more (so-called) “whites” get government aid of one type or another than black folks, don’t you?

      1. Krystina S.'s Avatar Krystina S.

        I agree, Donald. These disgusting comments are not even based on reality, but on right-wing tropes which are racist. Shame on all of them.

      2. Jerimae Wade Sledge's Avatar Jerimae Wade Sledge

        That's bull because I am 100% disabled and all they will give me is $16.00 a month so me and my wife told them to keep it I live in the state of Alabama I get 1085 to support me and my wife and that's a month I'm all I can do is pay My bills and hope it doesn't go over I have to go without food so my wife can eat so if I was black down here I can get 1000 in food stamps+cash and what the Government owes me so I lost my life for you and your family in war but I'm the one who has to do without an you say black's and others don't get as much hahahaha good luck making people believe that.

      3. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        Donald, you do know that whites far out number black people in this nation, don't you?

      4. Angel's Avatar Angel

        lol, not true in states such as California, Arizona, ect.

    2. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

      Well said.

  1. Val Jester's Avatar Val Jester

    Virtue signaling at its very worst.

  1. Pedro Pagan Jr's Avatar Pedro Pagan Jr

    There was slaves because they owe money for services, just like we owe the government, telephone, electric, mortgage & car. Also slaves for a place to live, eat back then there was no government help. So let's see what God said about this and if you disagree complain to him. Bondservants, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ, not by the way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, rendering service with a good will as to the Lord and not to man, knowing that whatever good anyone does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether he is a bondservant or is free. Masters, do the same to them, and stop your threatening, knowing that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and that there is no partiality with him." - Ephesians 6:5-9

    "Bondservants, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ. 25 For the wrongdoer will be paid back for the wrong he has done, and there is no partiality.

    Masters, treat your bondservants justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven." - Colossians 3:22

    1. Donald Richard Starns's Avatar Donald Richard Starns

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    2. Donald Richard Starns's Avatar Donald Richard Starns

      Get your slaves from other tribes, and beat them, just not to death. Pass them on to your heirs, for they are your property, like your camels and your wives. Amen.

      1. Krystina S.'s Avatar Krystina S.

        Pedro and Donald, you are reprehensible. Slavery was a great evil, and slaves were not bondservents, they were kidnapped.

      2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        Donald, it takes a real sicko to believe such things.

      3. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        You’re almost right. According to the mythical God of the Old Testament they can die, as long as they don’t die within the first day or two. Exodus 21:20. If they die after the second day, tough luck I guess 🤷🏼

        I’m sure that’s one of the reasons the OT God has hidden itself away all this time. It’s too embarrassed to show itself, so it relies on apologists to make up stories for it to make out it’s either ok, or that people have got it all wrong. I think John Partin is one of those, trying to explain away his gods logic having screwed up.

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        1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

          CHL, do people even always or usually get what other people are saying correctly and understand what they are saying or do they put their own slant and spin on it, until it comes out the other side of that blender and filter meaning something slightly or wildly different from what they actually said?!! If there were perfect communication and understanding between people always in this world, we wouldn't have a great many of the problems that we have with each other. All of us who have dealt with other people's twisting our words and their dealing with our twisting their words know that it is our putting our slant and spin on other people's words. If we even do that to each other and misunderstand what other people are saying, when we can talk to them right in front of us, how could we not do that to God and misunderstand what God is saying, when we are only getting inspiration from Him and so don't hear Him correctly or just put our own words in His mouth? That isn't trying to make excuses for God, but our usual experience in communication with one another and so would be even more so with God. You know the game of a circle of people passing a story from one to another around the circle and it comes out differently at the end of the circle than it started out. That is just realistic, not a "plot to exonerate God from any blame" by me or anyone else, since people's words put in God's mouth obviously aren't His words. As I have told you many times already (and write it down and put it up on your refrigerator or tattoo it on your forearm or forehead or on your behind for someone to read it you, so that you won't forget it!!), when you become guilty of everything that other people accuse you of doing or saying, then you could, still wrongly, think that "God is guilty of everything that people have accused Him of doing or saying", but until then, don't do to God what you wouldn't want to be done to you and stop believing that God is guilty of everything that He is accused of doing or saying!! That is the Golden Rule towards God, too, and fair play for Him!!

    3. Ilmenheru Terikson's Avatar Ilmenheru Terikson

      To express your faith tradition as fact outs you as an insular minded enemy of our ministry here. If you can not accept that your faith tradition is a personal thing, and not something those who do not follow it should never hear one word about it from your lips, then you are not a ULC minister and have no standing here.

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    Hasn't every culture had slaves sometime in their past? Slavery was very popular in Africa. I know in the country of Qatar slavery was just abolished about 5 years ago. They have an excellent museum on the history of slavery around the world. https://msheirebmuseums.com/en/about/bin-jelmood-house/

    In the United States we horrible at admitting the sins of the past. How is it we have a Holocaust Museum for something that did not occur in our country but fail to recognize the whites, black and browns who were slaves and murdered in our own county?

    1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

      To compare slavery with the Holocaust is the most stupid comparison. The Holocause was genocide. Slavery was not and million didn't die under slavery. Slavery has existed since biblical times and still does in the Islamic religion so get off the sad sorry topic. Scripture mentions that we are not responsible for the sins of our forefathers. No one ever brings that up. Sick of hearing about slavery while we have a tyrannical party trying to establish a Marxist society only to justify their Mafia run state. I just want to see justice carried out against all these Democrat bastards involved with Epstein and their uncommonsenseibile mandates.

      1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

        @Keith Allen Steele Eash If you think my comment is stupid let me see if I can change your mind. In the United State we had Manifest Destiny. It was the goal of our forefathers.to EXTERMINATE the Nave peoples as well as enslave. If you know Holocausts history you know Herman Goring gave an excellent argument comparing how in the United States had exterminated the Native Americans, preformed and forcing US citizens to have medical treatments they did not want and performing medical experiments without their consent and had enslaved people. He made a very good argumentum that what the US had and was doing is exactly the same as what the Nazi's were doing. And the court was agreeing with him. The US was afraid everyone at the Nuremberg trials would all be acquitted.

        How can you say our American forefathers did not engage in the mass extermination of Native People? From your comments it appears you would like our country run by a dictator with Adolf's ideology.

        1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

          Liberal gaslighting. Every society is guilty of treating lesser groups with bigotry. You have no frickrn clue of history. Comparing the U.S. to Nazism and the Holocaust is ridiculous. We did not try to kill the Indians off with mass extermination. Individuals in the government, mostly democratic like Jackson was guilty of several Trail of Tears. Still nowhere were we planning on mass extermination. Cry and bleed your heart out. Past history. I truthfully don't think you can read. Nowhere did I mention wanting a dictator like Hitler. You're gaslighting. I don't play games like yours truly. As I said Nazis were genocidal insane racist idiots. Even with how we treated the Native Americans is no comparison to the Holocaust. You're changing the subject idiot.

          1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

            Dude not sure what bible you’ve been smoking but it’s really screwing with your perception reality. What’s the difference between the US government plan to exterminate the Native Americas? Are you trying to say that the American Holocaust, the extermination of Native Americans did not happen? You do know the US government paid black $100 per Native American scalp, don’t you. And that the United States government stole Native American’s land and property and forced them to live in concentration camps called reservation. And that the United States had Nuremberg laws which prevented the mixing of the race or made it illegal for mixed marriages long before the Nazis did it. Take a look at how many Native American’s our white forefathers legally murdered/exterminated. Just as the Nazi’s had the Wannsee conference, in the US we had many. The trail of tears is like saying the Nazi’s had one concentration camp. Hitler may have said he wanted to rid Europe of the Jews, well the whites in the US said the same about the Native Americans over and over with Manifest Destiny.
            And what about the Hawaiians and the Hawaiian Holocaust. Are you trying to tell me the European whites didn’t try to exterminate the Native Hawaiians? That bible you’ve been smoking has messed with your mind or are you just a white supremacist?

            1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

              If you hate the U.S that much then pack your bags and leave. It's past history. Once again we didn't practice genocide. Native reservations were not prison camps. They didn't have fences around them. Get off it. Go argue with some libtard that revises history like you do. Past sins are past sins. I'm not responsible for the sins of my forefathers. Nor will I apologize for them. So go stick your head back up whete the sun doesn't shine. Once again to compare American history to the Holocaust is absolutely absurd. You should be more concerned with abortion. That's a Holocaust. So libtard go ask Kamala Harris to open her mouth . She'll accommodate.

              1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

                Is there a reason you can't be honest? Learn what's being taught in our schools. Ask any Native American or middle school child if they know anything about the American Holocaust. If they weren't sleeping or indoctrinated by your revisionist history they will tell you the our forefathers murdered Native Americans 20 million. That's 10 million more than the Japanese murdered in World War II with the Chinese holocaust.

                You are right, God causes millions of abortions every year just in the United States. God's the biggest mass murderer there is.

  1. Lawrence Rosenblum's Avatar Lawrence Rosenblum

    If the songs are protected under copyright law they should definitely pay royalties - but if the songs are in the public domain, no.

  1. Frank Peter Guarino's Avatar Frank Peter Guarino

    Reparations, the thought of it for slavery makes me laugh. Anybody know of Anthony Johnson? First legal slave owner in the U.S.A., odd thing, he was black. He was black just like so many other slave owners, so how today are we supposed to tell the difference? Wanna hear something even more interesting? African tribes were the sellers of Africans to the colonizers, so once again, how do we know which blacks we're giving the reparations to? Now for the perplexing part: whites were slaves too 🤯

  1. Frank Peter Guarino's Avatar Frank Peter Guarino

    The thought of reparations for slavery is hilarious. How did all of this slave stuff start? Was it something the colonizers of the Americas just came up with or had it been around since biblical times? How did the colonizers get a hold of slaves? Is it true that people would just go into Africa and kidnap them or is it true that African tribes would sell off their undesired? If it's true that it was the tribal leaders (whether they were African or American Indian or Hispanic or white🤯) how do we know that we're not giving reparations to descendants of those tribal leaders? Here's are a couple of things that we do on our: 1) Anthony Johnson, he's super significant because he was the first BLACK man to not only own slaves, he was also the first AMERICAN to legally possess a slave😵 2) Slaves didn't have a racial qualification, as a matter of fact being a slave was not discriminated against because of your race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, political affiliation or any other means.

    So how do we know who is really entitled to any form of reparations? Even a slave could've been a decedent of a slave owner or seller. So give to organizations like BICOP, BLM, HBUs, etc.? It's really white pity. Giving to an organization that actually supports MLK's dream and desire of not discriminating based on someone's skin color but rather by the content of one's character, is what will create more peace rather than division. It will create more harmony that spite and it will create an environment of incision rather than delusion.

    1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

      very well said but we know these idiots feed on their emotions rather then the organ between their ears.

      1. Frank Peter Guarino's Avatar Frank Peter Guarino

        @keith- all of its are lost sheep at points in our lives. As good Ministers we are there to help guide them... with or without that muscle lol

        1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

          lol

    2. Ilmenheru Terikson's Avatar Ilmenheru Terikson

      FPG, your posts indicate you are severely ill mentally and in need of treatment, possibly even in need of being contained and medicated for the safety of society around you. You are not a minister you are a threat to human life.

      1. Frank Peter Guarino's Avatar Frank Peter Guarino

        Hello Ilmenheru, I welcome you to provide a valid argument regarding my post. All you've said is hyperbolical. As a matter of fact, I'm a medically retired Marine Corps Military Police and Air Force Security Forces Sergeant, that has spent over 30 years in government (local to federal), serving the people of this great nation. I am third generation American, so there might be positions that I'm missing. Feel free to elaborate?

  1. Kurt Neuleuf's Avatar Kurt Neuleuf

    Easy answer... Go to Pirate bay and download whatever slaves songs you find.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Or Kurt, why not download songs by Paul Robeson like Nobody Knows The Trouble I've Seen, Ol' Man River, Shortening Bread, or maybe even Fat Li'l Feller With His Mammy's Eyes.

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    They'd have to pay me a lot of money to sing any Christian songs, not the other way around.

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    I wish I knew the words to Kalenda Rock. All this talk has got me to feeling very spiritual, and makes me want to sing!

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    I wouldn't say I'm anything, Waldron. I just simply am. I am what I am and that's all that I am. I'm Popeye the sailor man. Toot! Toot!

  1. Thomas Edwin Peterson's Avatar Thomas Edwin Peterson

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  1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

    You need a roll of toilet paper. Alot of """"coming from your mouth.

  1. Keith Allen Steele Eash's Avatar Keith Allen Steele Eash

    No but I sure in hell will vote for him again since he still is the legitimately elected president.

  1. Nathaniel Joseph Merritt's Avatar Nathaniel Joseph Merritt

    This is silly, just as paying "reparations" to modern-day African Americans for slavery is silly. (No living African American was ever a slave and I was never a slaveowner!) Hey, my ancestors were Welsh. Any Brits here I can sue for wars against my people? I have suffered horribly because my ancestors were killed by the British.

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