Few issues have divided Americans more in recent years than the treatment of transgender people. Like the American public at large, religious groups are deeply divided on how far affirming trans identity should go in the years to come.
Now, people of faith are being forced to confront a difficult question: what does Christian compassion look like in an era where trans lives have become a political battleground?
"Not in Jesus' Name"
Days after Christmas, a group of pro-trans Christians gathered at the Wisconsin State Capitol in protest of violence and bigotry against the transgender community – violence that they say has been wrought in part by Christians.
The event, called "Not in Jesus’ Name," featured marches, songs, and prayers inside the Capitol Rotunda, and was an unmistakable repudiation of what they argue is unfair religious scapegoating of the trans community.
“Transgender people are under violent assault, both physical and spiritual,” stated Reverend Liz Edman. “For too long, such violence has been justified by appeals to religion. But we aim to follow Jesus, who taught us to catch stones thrown at vulnerable people, not throw them ourselves.”
“We believe that faith is something that we’re responsible to live well,” Edman continued. “And anytime you point fingers at somebody else and go after them, you have violated the terms of our covenant with God.”
Edman explained that the event was intentionally designed to align with the Feast of the Holy Innocents, which is in remembrance of King Herod’s slaughter of innocent children. “The story is a stark reminder to Christians today that faith demands courage, especially when innocent people are being preyed upon for political gain,” Edman stated.
A Fire and Brimstone Approach
You'll be shocked to learn that some religious leaders feel differently.
Just a month prior, Pastor Jim Burgen of Flatirons Community Church – a megachurch based out of Colorado – delivered a sermon on trans people which could not be less similar.
“Our children are being hunted and consumed by predators and pedophiles,” he preached, alleging that the LGBTQ+ community is grooming minors. “Our children are being in surgery to alter their bodies, to align with their misguided feelings in biology. And boys are unfairly competing against our daughters.”
Burgen explained that his church is trying to get several items on upcoming ballots for Colorado voters to decide on, including "[stopping] irreversible sexual surgery on minors” and “[keeping] girls’ and boys’ sports biologically fair.”
Any Christians who do not take up with his cause, he says, are “a traitor to your first allegiance, Jesus”, and that having beliefs contrary to his is “equivalent of mutiny and deserting your post.”
Related: What Does the Bible Say About Trans People?
A Spirited Debate
Same faith, different pastors, wildly opposing beliefs. For Christians watching these debates unfold, the divide is impossible to ignore.
One side frames trans affirmation as a moral imperative rooted in the gospel’s concern for the vulnerable and helpless. The other casts it as a threat demanding spiritual resistance everywhere from the ballot box to the bathroom.
Indeed, conversations about trans representation in media, locker room policies, and gender-affirming care for trans children dominated headlines throughout 2025.
What were once niche policy debates have become cultural flashpoints, with culture war battles raging everywhere from courtrooms, to state legislatures, to local school boards. And, of course, the original "third place" in American life: churches.
What do you think Christian faith demands at this moment, and where should the line be drawn?
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Rev. MichaelRS
Which kind of simple. When it comes to humans there's nothing in the Judeo-Christian scriptures that says God made anything else other than man & woman.
But in the Jewish Bible or the Christian New Testament whenever relationships outside of that contacts are addressed neither one of those writings has anything good to say about it.
And as far as the brain being in the wrong body goes; It's not like there's a physical assembly line where a male body is going by on a conveyor and one of the Angels reaches into the wrong box and sticks a female brain in that body.
But there is such things as mental illness and object reality.
If some degree of mental illness and objective reality did not exist then when it comes to people who have anorexia we should just accept their view of themselves and offer them a prescription for diet pills and a membership in Weight Watchers.
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Patricia Ann Gross
This is why doctors won't start hormone therapy until the person has been through at least two years of therapy to rule out mental illness and affirm a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Neither gender nor SAaB (Sex Assigned at Birth) are as binary as described in Genesis. Physical genetalia do not always reflect the DNA structure, and there are instances of extra X and Y Chromosomes. Beyond that, the wiring in the brain of intellect, compassion, and sexual attraction does not always match the sex organs society expects them to align with.
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Steven Ferrell
We should love everyone, but that does not mean we should condone their sin. It also is something that should not be allowed for children to make life altering decisions and changes to their bodies, but should have to wait until they are adults. I personally know a person who ad a younger teen said she was trans and really a boy. The head shrinks convinced the parents she was trans, she used blackmail tactics to force parents to pay for hormone treatments, she reached 16, parents paid out of their pocket to have her breast removed, she dressed as a male, etc.
Now at 23, she has figured out she really is female and wants to go back to being female and is sad she messed up her body.-
Brien
Noone asked you to condone anybody. The only thing that has ever been asked is to stop the hate. You can believe whatever you wish without being hateful. I personally don't believe in your mythical being, but I don't go around being hateful to Christians. If we can find the common ground of tolerance, this world would be a better place. Peace ✌️
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Shawn Hutchison
The problem I’ve developed is men wanting to be in women’s sports.men wanting to be in women’s locker rooms.men wanting to be in women’s restrooms.pretending something that you’re not.the constant gas lighting is ridiculous by our legacy media and politicians.
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Ari Joseph Bertine
The first image in this article is captioned, "How should Christians treat transgender people?" Take away the descriptor and we have, "How should Christians treat __________ people?" Jesus had an answer for that, and the descriptor was not important. Poor, foreign, leprous, blind, lame, dead, sinful, you name it, he had the same answer for it. Trans people are not even mentioned in the bible, at all, ever, so it should be a completely moot point as far as Christians are concerned. Blind from birth, nobody accused God of making a mistake, Jesus healed it. Lame from birth, nobody accused God of making a mistake, Jesus healed it. So clearly there was acknowledgement of congenital conditions that need treatment, and no one said it was sacriligeous to want treatment, and Jesus went out of his way to set the example of helping people who needed help. Absolutely no reason whatsoever to have a problem with transgender people if one is going by the Bible.
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Jamie Frost
As someone with an ftm brother and dated a mtf.... No one's gender is anyone's business except theirs, their partner, and their doctors... So if people just ignored the status of another person's genitalia; trans or not..... Life can go on peacefully.
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Michelle C Larkins
As an Ordained minister from the ULC, as a transgender woman, and reading my Bible, Jesus says to "Love thy neighbor as Thyself," therefore as I see it your neighbor is everyone you interact with in your life. From your family, to your actual neighbors, to your co-workers, to the folks you talk to on the phone, or on the computer, in the stores you shop at, the restaurants you eat at, and just about everyone you meet during your daily routine. Who's to say that you haven't been served, talked to, helped by, or interacted with a trans person and didn’t know it? You might have even complimented a trans woman on her looks and not known sh was trans. We are all around you and many don't know we're there, many of us don’t go around declaring that we are trans, we just live simple quiet lives trying to blend in to normal life. Although, God did do the first transgender surgery in history when he created Eve. He took MALE DNA from Adam then had to completely change it to FEMALE DNA to finish Eve. He also added the parts so Eve could reproduce and placed them inside her body.
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Sean J Kresge
Your point is well understood that it is nobody else's business and we should treat all with respect. I may not like the idea but I don't treat any LGBTQ+ community poorly. I have a couple friends in the LGBTQ+ Community. I have a dear friend that is Lesbian. I would do anything for her. What she does in her bedroom is not my concern. I do have a couple concerns though. First one: We test in sports for Steriods. As you stated God took a rib from Adam and changed the DNA. That means her DNA is different. Science can prove their is a difference. Why do we not change for DNA. Second opinion is that one of my friends is partially changed. He went from male to "Female" by getting breast implants, growing his hair out long (with male pattern baldness), Dressing in womens clothes, but not changing his/her genitalia. He/She still likes women and having sex with them. I believe that this is more a perversion than a belief is being wrong gender. He/She got told at work to not use the womens bathroom because when he went to pee a woman saw his feet facing the wrong way, saw how he looked and followed them and reported them. If your only doing something halfway are you serious? How should we really treat someone like this? Third children should never be oper6on. I kinda believe this is over hyped and doesn't happen that often but it shouldn't happen at all. Once a person is an adult. I would say same age to buy a firearm (21yo) they can make that decision. No government funded Healthcare should be used for sex-change. Fourth: If someone is Trans I understand that its their business in the bedroom and they shouldn't have to walk around disclosing to everyone. They should disclose at end of second date or before having sex with someone. I say second date because that shows the person has interest in pursuing something. If its a 1 and done they don't need to know. They weren't interested in more. I also say before sex because some people move faster than others. Nobody should be surprised after. They may not be ok with being "tricked" for lack of a better word. Again I say I treat others as I should with respect. I may tot agree with others decisions, but they are their decisions. I don't have to agree or like their decisions. We should stop trying to force people to agree. Gay pride parades are not needed. As i stated before what they do in rhe bedroom is nobody else's business so dont put it out in the streets. But that doesn't me I have to dislike the person. More people need to understand that. Love others as you would want to be loved. I enjoyed your comments that is why I responded to you.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Sean,
I can tell you've given this a lot of thought, but you've run off the rails a bit.
First of all, DNA is something that science hasn't figured out how to change. There are some gene therapies along with stem-cell research that has some possibilities, but not as drastic as you are suggesting. That gets into the real SciFi, cloning argument which is way off base for this discussion.
As for the guy that only went "half way," he may only be halfway through his transition. For all the ones I have known, the top surgery usually comes first, because the bottom is much more invasive, complicated and therefore more expensive. Not all insurance covers the full reassignment, so that people stop halfway through is not uncommon for that reason, yet they continue hormone therapy to control things like facial and body hair, breast size (for M2F) and muscle mass. These also present some of the gender characteristics you are assuming can be done by gene therapy/DNA change.
Third, I'm not sure which is creepier, the person who is turned backwards in the stall or the person lurking in the bathroom looking under the stall doors. When I go into a ladies' room, I go in, do my business, wash my hands and leave. I don't worry about what anyone else is doing in there, as it is none of my business. If there has ever been a man in a restroom where I was, I never knew it, because I'm not that nosey.
By the way, thank you for your respect and concern for this community. If you're really that curious about what they think and why they do things a certain way, just find one and ask them. Most are more than happy to educate those willing to get the right information.
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Geoffrey C. Olive
The development of male and female organs was due to evolution from single cell to multi cell organisms and nothing to do with a non existent male (or female!) god or gods! Why would a mono theistic god be male or female? If humans were created in god’s image, why would your (non existent!) god need sex organs or a digestive system, etc? This doesn’t make logical sense! Please explain why, and don’t say the usual religious cop out of god moves in mysterious ways!
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Patricia Ann Gross
Clara,
Thank you for a delightful and absolutely correct explanation on what I have come to understand of the transgender experience. Gender, as a social construct, is in in the process of deconstruction, which started back in the 1970s, and can't be totally dismantled fast enough. Gender is NOT one of two boxes, because Genesis says so. Even sex assigned at birth is not binary, as so many people have pointed out. I have to say, that I am encouraged by the overwhelming support on this topic, presented in this way, on this page today, especially compared to the hateful anti-trans rhetoric of previous blog posts. By and large, trans-people just want to live their lives and be left alone. They aren't a hazzard or a danger to anyone, but if you poke the bear, expect it to bite back.
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Clara Ries
I am a ULC minister and am transgender. Several years ago, the World Health Organization removed the mental health label from being transgender and now refers to it as gender incongruence. This is a much better term. Being transgender is not being a woman being born in a man's body. That is a gross simplification people sometimes use to describe the way they feel about themselves in a way they hope others can understand. Being transgender is a developmental issue resulting in an incongruence between mind and body, heavily influenced by social expectations. Our society has created very strict stereotypes for how gender should be and how it should be expressed. For many transgender people, these stereotypes don't fit and we are not accepted.
The transgender umbrella is a big umbrella. It includes a wide variety of people who do not see themselves as CIS, someone fitting the physical and societal model of gender. Non-binary, demi-sexual, aeromantic, transgender man/woman, etc. The long list can be confusing for those who are in the community. That's okay.
Being transgender is an act of creation. It is who we are. It does not matter if the reason is physical, mental, or societal. It is a reality and it is legitimate. We are people of god. All of us.
Vengeance and hate are opposed to justice and love.
We are living in a world driven by capitalism and patriarchy. We want to win. We want to beat our opponent. If I give you something, my piece of the pie gets smaller and and your gets larger. The one with the most resources, money, power, social clout, wins.
But we are told "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus".
In reality, a rising tide floats all boats. There is no pie beyond what we artificially created. Justice is more important than enforcement. Love for all is better than protectionism and class.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Clara,
Thank you for a delightful and absolutely correct explanation on what I have come to understand of the transgender experience. Gender, as a social construct, is in in the process of deconstruction, which started back in the 1970s, and can't be totally dismantled fast enough. Gender is NOT one of two boxes, because Genesis says so. Even sex assigned at birth is not binary, as so many people have pointed out. I have to say, that I am encouraged by the overwhelming support on this topic, presented in this way, on this page today, especially compared to the hateful anti-trans rhetoric of previous blog posts. By and large, trans-people just want to live their lives and be left alone. They aren't a hazzard or a danger to anyone, but if you poke the bear, expect it to bite back.
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Kevin Joseph Kervick
A priori affirmation in professional counseling is unethical and ineffective. https://rumble.com/v73uew4-a-common-sense-ethical-framework-for-psychotherapy-with-questioning-youth.html.
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Rev. Donut
Gay or Lesbian. No Trans.
I could pretend to be White, or Black or Latin or Asian. But that would be "pretending to be" and not being.
In the same way, some men "pretend to be" women and some women "pretend to be" men. They are not.
This seems to have grown into an attention getting movement. Especially by those with little to no other skills or abilities.
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Cheryl Pettijohn
Jesus gave us two commandments. None of them were to judge others. God loves his creations, including members of the LGBT+ communities. He created them the way they are, including starting out in the wrong bodies. I have found that trans people are the most compassionate, most adept at critical thinking people. They have to be to survive.
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Sir Lionheart
If he’s real, isn’t the Christian god supposed to be omniscient. Do gods, if they are real, make mistakes? How about those that like to identify as dogs, or pony’s? Are they really any different than those who want to identify as the opposite sex?
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Tami Tabone
My thoughts on this are that whenever you don't want certain people to have rights, belittle others for who they are, and try to isolate certain groups, as l9ng as they are not caus8ng harm to others, that is not being spiritual. The God i have studied and loved, accepts everyone just the way they are. The key words here on both sides are "harm none".
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Keith David Harry
If you’re a man and want to be a man, have at it. If you’re a woman and want to be a woman have at it. If you’re a man and want to be a woman, have at it. If you’re a woman and want to be a man, have at it. If you are Christian, Jewish, Muslim etc, and you want to worship your God, have at it. If you don’t believe in religion and you don’t wish to worship a religious figure,have at it. If any of the above somehow offends you, STFU and MYOB. Worry about YOU and YOURS !!
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Chaplin Confidant
From a pragmatic perspective, strive to honor an individual’s civil right to free will even with regard to sexual orientation / predilection. Jesus never forced anyone (saint nor sinner) to do anything by coercive means or brute force. Instead the scripture promotes compassion, empathy, understanding and free will. Furthermore, one’s civil rights trump personal opinion and conjecture. For example, I cannot personally condemn one to heaven or hell for their life choices.
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Joseph Grieco
It has a lot to do with the basic philosophy of the denomination, and the academic training of the individual clerics. Someone in the Southern Baptist Convention is less likely to be pro-transgender than someone from the Congregationalist churches. Episcopalians are more open to this than are Roman Catholics, although those who received their religious training in the Vatican II era are more open than those who were trained during the papacies of John-Paul II or Benedict.
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Tami Tabone
I thought Biblical teachings show that God accepts us just the way we are. It is not our place to judge others. I recently watched a documentary called Intersex. About people who were born with both genitalia. I was surprised that this happens 8n more than 1 in 2,000 births and is usually kept quiet. So what about those folks? They are written off?
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Patricia Ann Gross
Tami,
You are correct, and that is all because God has made us just the way we are. To call someone evil is to call God evil. We all need to keep our own house in order before we start worrying about what is in someone else's pants.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Joseph,
John-Paul II and Benedict are both post-Vatican II popes and actually were involved in the writing of the policies develooped during the Council, which was before their papacies. They also had a huge hand in moving the agendas forward once installed to the papacy. However it was Francis and now Leo that have become more open to the LGBTQIA+ communities. One step at a time. A huge ship that took 1900 years to create doesn't turn on a dime.
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Rev Ned
🌈! BOO!!
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James Riggle-Johnson
Only human beings would presume to decide which of God’s creations are acceptable and which should be erased. What we’re seeing in the assault on the trans community isn’t a sudden moral awakening—it’s a political strategy. At some point, a group of politicians sat down and asked the obvious question: Who can we scare people with enough to win elections?
Enter the trans community: We’re told they’re everywhere, lurking in schools and locker rooms. We’re told boys are lining up to dominate girls’ sports. We’re told children are being rushed into surgeries en masse. None of this resembles reality—but fear rarely bothers with facts.
What’s especially disappointing is how quickly some religious institutions signed on. They revived a well-worn warning: They’re coming for your children. It’s the same script that’s been recycled for decades: the LGBTQ community is dangerous.
Meanwhile, trans people endure hatred, suspicion, hostility, fear, and legislation aimed at their very existence—all in the name of “protection.” One has to wonder who, exactly, is being protected here.
Trans people are not what’s dividing us. Politicians decided fear was profitable, and too many Christians decided it was righteous. If your faith is truly secure, then relax—leave the judgment to God.
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Robert Hauck, MD, FAAP
Please read John Fugelsang's "Separation of Church and Hate," or at least a summary of his message. John documents the efforts of the radical Christian-in-name-only movement to transform the United States into a Christian Theocracy. Promoting cruelty and hate toward our trans fellow humans couldn't be farther from Jesus' teachings. Attacking trans people is just one of multiple strategies aimed at changing our society. (By the way, Fugelsang is a follower of Christ's teachings and extremely well-versed on both Old and New Testaments.)
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Ellen B. Wentzel
People are all born different. Shame on you if you are not intelligent enough to know this and practice bigotry.
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obere mchugh
All Human being's are of the human Race, we are all in deserve to be treated with respect and tolerance for there is no one unifying whole world single religion nor creed, we each are on our own journey and yes our free will and individuality is what makes each of us unique to our selfs. NO one deserves to dictate how one another is viewed or precieved within the world. not taking nationality, ethnic origin into accout or any other catagory that is really meant to divide and make judgment about or to others, we are all of one world and we are all one race the human race all connected by common aspect stop seeing and stop using differences as a tool of worth as all these sub-catagories and divisions just bring about hate fear and stupidity.
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Brien
I wish I cared what a belief based on fear , ignorance, and hate thought of anything but I don't. I will never understand toxic people, no matter how they justify their views. I prefer to ignore toxic people because the power they have comes from the attention they receive. Peace ✌️
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Rev. Davis
As a trans woman who is also an ordained ULC minister, I am compelled to say that trans people are beloved of God and under the special care and protection of the God who opposes oppression and liberates the vulnerable. Any theology that differs here has profoundly failed to grasp its basic tenets. What is clear is that the religious right lost the marriage equality fight and needed a new Boogeyman to fundraise against, and we appear to be it.
If you're not trans, you have no idea how stressful it is just to exist right now. I had to flee a red state where I was in danger of becoming a statistic a few months ago. All of us in the community know someone who should still be here who isn't. A teenage trans girl right here in WA took her life after the election. We're accused of being violent extremists for expressing ourselves while the media fuels pseudoscience and debates our civil rights to generate controversy for profit, conservatives call for the FBI to round us up, and even many liberals are afraid to speak up for us because of the intensity of the moral panic right now. It has to stop. We need your voices. We are human beings, children of the same universe, made in the image of God like everyone else, and our rights are inalienable too.
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Colleen McAllister
Many of us simply feel uncomfortable with Trans folks. That is no reason to treat them differently. Even if it were a sin, and it's not, then we should treat a Trans person as we would any other sinner love them, support them, and show them God's love.
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Katelynne Shouse
Transgender people have been around since the beginning of time and we are not going anywhere now....the Christofascist bigots can kick rocks!
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Katelynne Shouse
Transgender have been around since the beginning of time and we are not going anywhere....the Christofascist bigots can kick rocks!
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Cyndi McReynolds
As the grandparent of a trans woman, I have something to say. Prior to her coming out, she was suffering with severe anxiety and depression.
She confided in me that she had frequent thoughts of self harm. We got her into therapy, thinking that it was a phase that teenagers go through.
Nothing was helping. She began to have anger issues because none of us understood why she was feeling this way.
She went through this pain for years before she finally told her mom, my daughter that she felt like she would never be "normal" because she was not a young man; she was a young woman.
When She finally told me, my first thought was Alrighty then. We need to go shopping. She was so happy that we were all there to support her. Our love for her wasn't changed. That's why a she waited so long to tell us. She was afraid of being rejected.
Of course, when someone you love is suffering you stand by them and hold them a little tighter. You support them and help them through it.
Before she came out, I was terrified that I would lose my grandchild. Since then, she has developed into a happy, healthy, productive member of society.
I am terribly proud of her.
I pray that one day the world will come to accept the fact that body dismorphia I'd a real medical condition and should be treated as such. Trans people are not pretending to be something their not. It's not "playing dress up".
If you believe in the sanctity of human life, then you need to understand that people are dying because they can't live a lie. They are just as precious to us as they ever were and they deserve our love and support.
God cares for every one of his children. We were not put on this Earth to judge one another. We are told to love each other as we love ourselves. If you can't love someone because you've judged them to be unworthy, then what does that say about yourself?
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Michael Hunt
Thank you, Cyndi, for sharing such a personal story and for being so supportive of your granddaughter. I'm so glad to hear they're doing so much better since transitioning!
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Vincent Nania
You have moved me grandma. I was fully against the trans movement and the coming out of people there. But you have given me pause. the phrease "body dismorphia is a real medical condition and should be treated as such" relieves my aingst where I believed it was a satanic possession and should be shunned, will now let me view it with more love and acceptance if the individual will seek medical/psychological guidance. my greatest fear and belief lies in the pressure of trans believers influencing youngsters who feel "social" dreaming that they can be trans just to fit in and please contemporaries when they are actually not trans, but they have not matured enough to have the strength to be themselves before they genuinely know who they are for life.
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Reverend Paula Copp
As long as nobody is bothering anyone, who cares? Let people live their lives the way they want unless they’re hurting others… time for MYOB!
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Geoffrey C. Olive
Unfortunately there are people, religions, and governments that do care in the most negative and worst possible ways!👎💩
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Nicholas J Page
I agree when men used to cross dress yes they were known as Transvestites or drag Queens but when I was a boy we never heard of transgender people but know a day's it's common knowledge i was born a male and when I die it will be as a male why are so many people changing sex it doesn't seem right .No one should be punished for changing gender who are these activists any way who tells them what is right or wrong its nobody's business except for the transgender who wishes to change. Mind your own business activists.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Nicholas,
The only problem I have with your post is that you make it sound like there is a long line of people wanting to change gender, which is far from the truth. The issue has come to the forefront when certain public figures, actors, and polititians who are transgender have come forward, and are "out and proud." (Chaz Bono, trans-man and son of Cher, Kaitlyn Jenner, trans-woman and athlete, and Sarah McBride, trans-woman and US House of Representatives). What every one of these people went through is not for the faint of heart. It started with years of therapy, followed by hormone treatments, and surgery. The issues they still contend with include more than social backlash. There are also issues with insurance (for example gender-specific diseases like prostate cancer and reproductive system issues pre-reassignment surgery). Even if these issues are eliminated during reassignment, they aren't generally covered by insurance, so it is all out-of-pocket, which is why only the uber-rich are able to take the complete path to reassignment, There is not a large contingent of people stepping up to groom the kids or to accept this for themselves, regardless of what those that are peddling fear want you to believe. Thank you for the support you give to this community.
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Barbara Harris
And then there is Ted Haggard former Pastor of New Life Church in Colorado. He preached hate and disgust towards the LGBTQ community. And then he was brought down when it was revealed he had sexual encounters with a gay prostitute and was doing meth. The old "do as I say and not as I do".
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Sir Lionheart
As far as I’m aware, no one is breaking any laws if a man wants to think he is a woman, or a woman wants to think shes a man. Back in the day there were many men that liked dressing up in women’s clothes, commonly known as transvestites back then. Does that term still exist? I don’t hear it anymore.
Anyway, I don’t see why anyone would want to punish them, especially Christians, as long as they are not harming anyone and breaking any national laws here in the US. Some other countries might have different ideas about that, especially Islamic countries, who don’t seem to have any tolerance with anyone that does not comply with Sharia law. 🤷
If someone wants to dress up as a dog or a pony, I’m also okay with that. They just need lots of love, bless them. 🤗
Happy New Year to everyone.🥂
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Geoffrey C. Olive
Xtianity is mumbo jumbo at its worst!
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Islam is definitely in the race.
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Geoffrey C. Olive
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Vincent Nania
Islam is an invented political fantasy written in 691. It mandates force and compliance to conquest. Jesus said we do not have to tolerate oppression. we can defend ourselves against it. Islam will dissolve as Muslims become literate and learn there was no Mohammed and Sharia Law violates all human right and ethics. It cannot survive love.
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Iris Smaus
There are many different belief systems within the whole of Christianity, but anybody that has read the Bible thoroughly knows of no instance where Jesus ever advised anyone to punish people, but quite the opposite, mind their own business and behavior, not be watching and commenting those we don't approve, we've got too much to do minding our own, it's self-righteous and lacks the sweet spiritual essence of true Christian thought. Jesus's severest rebuke was for those who condemned others, so although there have been and continue to be harsh attitudes from those hypocritically claiming Christian piety, it is not in line with Christian teachings. Those individuals who continue to have that harsh, condemning attitude are hypocrites, their words and actions completely absent of genuine spiritual love. The Quran also contains very strong warnings against watching, judging, pointing the finger at the wrong behavior of others, even worse are false accusations, that's a very serious offense in Islam.
It's important to keep in mind that many of these Biblical ideas come from the Old Testament, and there are many things that priests of old assumed God would not like - as if anyone could possibly know that - so they wrote those ideas into scripture as absolute fact, when they are not. For example, it states that if a woman is raped and does not scream she is just as guilty as the rapist - now we know that is unjust - is God unjust? Is God that stupid? Of course not! So it's a stupid, illogical, unjust law - how about avoiding wearing linen and wool together? Think God cares about that? No eating of pork or shellfish - yet every Christian I know eats them and doesn't pay attention to the other so-called 'laws' in the OT - except the one dealing with homosexuality - that one is paid great attention to, the only one paid attention to - and is very revealing of hypocrisy, of so-called 'Christians' breaking the Third Commandment against taking God's name in vain - to manipulate people for selfish gain or push a particular agenda - that is just what's happening right now - and there's nothing remotely Christian about it.
There's even more misunderstang of Islam - how many Christians here know that Muslims revere Jesus and believe he will one day return to earth to rule it? Show of hands....
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I am male I have relationship with person with out gender. Who considers her self female. My former partner a gay man died in 2021. last year we had service and spread his ashes.