T-rex outside of mcdonalds
The folks leading the anti-dino crusade call themselves Christians Against Dinosaurs (CAD) and boast nearly 30,000 members in their private Facebook group.

Are dinosaurs a hoax cooked up by a shadowy cabal of scientists, perpetuated by the liberal media, to trick people out of believing in Christ? One internet group thinks so, and they’re calling for the removal of a Tyrannosaurus Rex statue outside of a Tucson, Arizona McDonald’s location.

The folks leading the anti-dino crusade call themselves Christians Against Dinosaurs (CAD) and boast nearly 30,000 members in their private Facebook group. Like many things on social media, it’s tough to tell exactly where the line between irony and sincerity is drawn.

The group appears to be filled in equal parts with trolls who find the very concept of the page funny, and legitimately aggrieved Christians who have a *ahem* bone to pick with dinosaurs. 

Level of sincerity aside, their social media campaign targeting the Tucson T-Rex dug up a whole lot of trouble.

Outrageosaurus-Rex

“Please help! This McDonald’s has this dinosaur and refuse to remove it! This is in Tucson, Arizona. Call the manager and demand the removal of this blasphemy!” read the post that started it all. Published by CAD member Josh Brown, the post also included the address and phone number of the McDonald's restaurant.

The statue in question is a beloved Tucson landmark, a lifesize replica of the world’s most popular dinosaur that was built in 1994 to coincide with the release of Jurassic Park. Its status in the community led to intense debate over the calls for removal.

This caught our attention, so we asked our friends on Facebook what they made of the controversy (check out the comments if you haven't already):

Local reporters actually reached out to Mr. Brown, who doesn’t think there’s anything funny about the dinosaur hoax. “It seems to me that every dinosaur story and display or dinosaur themed event is furthering the myth that the Earth is much older than the Bible says it is,” he told reporters.

“Yes, the dinosaur should go unless they’re willing to compromise with a plaque of some kind stating that it’s a fictional character.” 

(Might we suggest Ronald McDinold?) 

For what it’s worth, it sounds like the T-Rex isn’t going anywhere. “Absolutely not,” insists restaurant management. “People really seem to like it. It’s a landmark really.” And despite employee fears of harassment or even protests outside the McDonald’s, they’ve yet to hear a peep from the anti-dino crowd.

Jurassic Snark

It’s worth noting that even the most science-denying, die-hard Young Earth Creationists don’t believe that dinosaurs themselves are a hoax. Most believe that humans and dinosaurs coexisted 6,000 years ago, Noah had two of each species on his ark, but they eventually died out due to changing climate and over-hunting by humans.

One might argue that “dinosaurs never existed” really isn’t that far removed from “dinosaurs are 6,000 years old”. Both positions ignore science dating back to 1842, when dinosaur science began in earnest.

A charitable interpretation of “Christians Against Dinosaurs” would be that, perhaps, that’s been their point all along - to ironically poke fun at scientific ignorance.

To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park: trolls, uh, find a way.

And in case you have a deep interest in combatting trolls AND learning about dinosaurs, a rival Facebook group has popped up you might want to consider joining: Dinosaurs Against Christians Who Are Against Dinosaurs (DACWAAD). No, we're not kidding. 

All that aside – what do you make of Christians Against Dinosaurs? Clever trolling, or are they actually sincere? And on social media, where, exactly, do we draw that line?

27 comments

  1. Brenten Stevens's Avatar Brenten Stevens

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m guessing alllll of them graduated from Trump university .... How completely ignorant . I can provide reels of video of us removing fossilized large creatures far far older than the dinosaurs . You can’t change brainwashed fools minds until they actually remove fossils them self .

    1. Alicia Szot's Avatar Alicia Szot

      Good gods! How exhausting it must be for you to find a way to bring Trump's name negatively into EVERYTHING, even if it has nothing to do with him. I pity you.

      1. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp's Avatar Catherine Ohrin-Greipp

        Oh stop it. Why do you have to go on the attack?

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          Alicia is correct. If we’re going to bring politics into everything we might as well cover the two dinosaurs of Pelosiasorus and the rapidly aging Bidenadactyl.

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          1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

            I thought Brenton paid Trump a complement, by speaking about a university named after him. I can see naming a nursery school after Trumpelstiltskin, for the level of mind he obviously identifies with, but a university? I don't think so.

    2. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp's Avatar Catherine Ohrin-Greipp

      Brenten is so right on. It would be much more relevant if they formed a group, "Christians Against the Sin of Poverty" and actually did something positive for humanity.

  1. Alicia Szot's Avatar Alicia Szot

    I have a born-again Christian cousin. One day, her husband felt the need to tell me that the earth was 6,000-some odd years old. I looked at him pretty strangely. I told him that the Earth, the other planets and the universe was billions of years old. He told me I was wrong. So, I said, "If the earth is only 6,000 years old, how do you explain dinosaurs?" His answer: Those bones were planted by Satan to make us doubt the word of god.

    That was it. I was done. There's no sense trying to talk sense into a zealot.

    I always felt bad for their kids, who will never have the pleasure of going to the Museum of Natural History and seeing all of the wonderful extinct species there. They will never visit the Planetarium to learn about the wonders of the universe. They will never have an open-minded conversation about any of this. It's sad. And what's even sadder is that before my cousin married this nutjob, she was "normal"! She love the Museum of Natural History and was open to all beliefs and the rights of people to have their beliefs. As soon as she married this guy, I, being Pagan, was evil not to be spoken to. We were best buddies growing up since we went to school together (she's 1 month older than me).

    These people feel that their beliefs are the only valid ones, there's no sense catering to them or trying to get them to see reason on anything. I hope the city, McDonalds, or whomever is responsible for this T-Rex doesn't cave to these jerks.

  1. Paul J. Fumero's Avatar Paul J. Fumero

    Incredible. These christians would get rid of Jesus if he did not fit into their crazy beliefs. I bet they believe the earth is 5,000 years old... LOL. Yiu cain't fix stiupiiid! (in a cowboy drawl). I wonder how they would react to the human footprints found beside the dinosaurs? They already had the skeletons of giants removed from the Smithsonian. Or that the entire story of Jesus birth death and resurrection was also in the story of Horus, the egyptian God of the Sun. I wonder if they would recognize him if they ever came across him? I would peg present day christianity at about 10% correct and the rest is all invented crap to support a narrative that benefits a certain group. But you'll find out the hard way eventually. BTW, I've already met him. He said why are you asking me what you already know? LOL

  1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

    so a small bunch wants to deny dinosaurs? Ok so a simple question to shut them up is "God was supposed to have made everything, so whats so hard in thinking that he made dinosaurs?"

    1. Lori Mongillo's Avatar Lori Mongillo

      Even better, ask them why God, an all powerful creator, would create the devil? That's a real puzzler. And why would God even keep this evil doer around? Just for fun? There are so many things that don't make sense in the wonderful world of the Christians.

      1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        There is a lot of stuff from people on this thread that if you would look at it and not know they truly meant what they said and believed it, they would be sitting in a rubber room with the backwords tux

  1. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    Help save the dinosaurs from the Christians. Join the Facebook group Dinosaurs Against Christians, (DAC). The dinosaurs survived becoming extent when the Earth was hit by a meteorite, I'm sure they will survive an attack from a Christian group who is trying to do something God did not want to happen.

    Do you think the folks in this Christian group eat chicken? Thanks to Darwin we know the ancestors of today's chickens and birds were the dinosaurs.

  1. John Condron's Avatar John Condron

    I think "Trump University" has (deservedly, IMHO) become a synonym for "poor education."

  1. Melinda Fulk's Avatar Melinda Fulk

    I want to make fun, but I won't. This kind of rabid, literaly belief in a book who's second chapter is mainly counterfitted by folks pushing their own agend, is only getting worse. Science denial isn't a joke as it's becoming more and more prevalent in our country - you can't be the greatst country on the world, or the leader of the world, when you have so many people screaming that the earth is flat, dinosaurs are either fake or only a few thousand years old, that certain forms of birth control are actually abortifacients - even when proven wrong, or that our president is the savior of the world. (Regardless of who they are - they're still just human.)

    Just my two cents, but I've been doing a lot of reading and studying on conspiracy theories of late, as well as current social and political happenings. sigh

  1. Wen's Avatar Wen

    “ That’s the way that the world goes round” (or flat) :)

  1. Christian's Avatar Christian

    Often I would explore the highest hills and mountains in America, and when I would draw close to the top - I would always stop and dig.
    Dig and dig until I would find what I was looking for: sea shells. Sea shells embedded in the rocks on the hill tops and mountains. A humble reminder that we are only visitors, only travelers passing through our vacation in life, planet Earth our playground for a few decades of life.

    We are Spirit. We find our Being in our Souls. We live for Love. We are created to Love Life and Enjoy Existence. However long or brief our stay.

    Do not weep for the dinosaurs, they had their time too. But it is the Spirits of dinosaurs that weep for us.
    For them, they could not escape the sudden and violent end of nearly all life. This was their fate. The dinosaurs weep for us, and for our 60 million children slaughtered by abortion, murdered before drawing their first breath... Never to see the blue skies with their own eyes, never to taste the sweet air of planet Earth, never to feel the warm glow of Sol's light on their skin... Nearly one in five American Citizens exterminated by the concentration camps of Planned Genocide in U.S.A. Executed before they were born.

    Will you stand in Judgement at the end of your time, at the end of the World ? ''I saw what they did. I said nothing. I did nothing. I saved no one."

    It is the dinosaurs that would remove US, for even as they would rip and tear, kill and eat, they never sacrificed their own offspring to false idols. With massive bodies, and some smaller brains, even the dinosaurs cared more for their eggs, than humans care for their own children.

    1. Ilmenheru Terikson's Avatar Ilmenheru Terikson

      Ok so you are as mad as these folks. Abortion is not even close to murder, and guess what in times of famine, egg laying creatures eat their own eggs, the same way a lion will eat its own cubs to survive and have a chance at another breeding season in better times. Animals big and small are pretty good at shedding pregnancy when times of stress are high. Its people who seem have lost this natural perk as we evolved. Its just another one of the many reasons pregnancy is so very risky for women, and they have every right to call dibs on their body over some unwanted thing sucking away at their body like a parasite.

      Any theological scholar of any standing in the global community agrees the OT is very explicit that the soul does not exist in the body until after physical birth. Until then in the eyes of the abrahamic faiths, abortion is in no way a sin. We know the jews alongside the greeks made use of abortion herbs that were considered as common to have at a party as a cup of wine.

  1. Charles McKenzie Jr's Avatar Charles McKenzie Jr

    It's funny to me that so many people blindly believe in science and ignore the fact that the "science" used to determine how old something is varies so much that it's dumbfounding to think anyone would accept any of it. Their hypothesis is simply too unreliable when they try and use carbon dating on fossils. First a fossil rarely contains their original carbon and fossils are contaminated with carbon from the environment during collection or preservation procedures which makes it too unreliable. So how it is that any of you who believe you are intelligent could hear a scientist say dinosaur fossils are between 240 to 270 million years old and blindly agree is beyond me. But what is even more mystifying is when people who blindly believe in the accuracy of scientists scoff at the people who believe the world isn't millions or even billions of years old and don't even consider any of the evidence that the earth and everything else surrounding it points to it not being even a million years old. But these people who believe that the existence of the dinosaurs are a myth just because they think it is furthering the myth that the Earth is much older than the Bible says seem to not even read it themselves. There are many many animals today that aren't listed in the bible but would fit under the title creatures great and small. And for the ark argument obviously there were some of his creation that he didn't plan on letting continue after the flood and that would be evident by realizing the ark wasn't built to contain that large of creatures. Seems to me these people believe that the earth is older then they realize they do otherwise they wouldn't care what anyone thinks about the age of a creature God made in the first place.

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      You are incorrect Charles in your posting. Radiocarbon dating is only good for up to about 45,000 to 50,000 years. To date fossils older than that, geochronologists use different techniques such as radioactive decay of isotopes found in rocks using mass spectrometers.

      So, “what is funny to you”, as you started your article, is only funny due to lack of knowledge in the field of geochronology. You state that it’s dumbfounding that anyone should accept the science of dating materials, but in reality it’s only dumbfounding to those that are in actual fact dumb to the science, but you are not on your own. There are many who have similar views to yourself who also lack the knowledge/education in a variety of sciences. Religionists had similar issues with believing in the heliocentric system of planets revolving around the sun. And when Galileo showed, using science and mathematics, that the geocentric system was false, he was incarcerated for the rest of his life because uneducated religionists wanted to believe something else.

      Here is a good article that you might want to educate yourself on: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-do-scientists-date-fossils-180972391/

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      1. Lori Mongillo's Avatar Lori Mongillo

        Nice

      2. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        um sorry but Radiocarbon dating is no good at all. They did this on a live mollusk and it clearly showed the mullosk was well over10's of Thousands of years old...yet they were living fresh water mollusks https://online.ucpress.edu/abt/article-abstract/82/2/72/109723/Radiocarbon-in-Dinosaur-Fossils-Compatibility-with?redirectedFrom=fulltext

        I mean even scientists now say that radiocarbon dating can and does screw up the timeline as it clearly comes back with errors, in fact a simple google search came back with over159,000 different sites showing while and how carbon dating is wrong and needs to be scrapped

        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180605112057.htm https://www.sciencealert.com/radiocarbon-dating-ancient-levant-region-calibration-inaccuracies https://www.siliconrepublic.com/innovation/carbon-dating-accuracy-major-flaw https://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/31/us/errors-are-feared-in-carbon-dating.html https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/carbon-dating-crucial-scientific-technique-jeopardy-thanks-our-pollution-heres-easy-way-fix-it-180961345/

    2. Ilmenheru Terikson's Avatar Ilmenheru Terikson

      Ken Ham fan eh. Sad, you should try reading the book or playing the game by Baily Stardust she is like a 14 year old author of a childrens book teaching evolution. Sounds like you could really use the help to learn basic science.

      Also wall o text much? Like really just doing a break before the "But what is even more mystifying" part which is the start of a fresh statement and thus new paragraph would of really made that train wreck at least not also an eye sore.

      Let me explain it to you,no wait skip that your not worth the time creationist. Go get bathed in your gods warm white love as he spreads it all over your back while you say thank you god to your local priest while wearing your old altar boy costume.

  1. Arch Bishiop Rev Robert E Wright Jr's Avatar Arch Bishiop Rev Robert E Wright Jr

    hey Remmber this God has created all lifeforms on earth including anmials and dinosures before our time he knows what hes doing if you dont belive he created it all look in your bible becouse if you dont belive god dosent love all creaters then you dont love god

    1. Lori Mongillo's Avatar Lori Mongillo

      I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you really should get a spell checker here Mr Arch Bishop

    2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      Thank you for your very educated reply, or should that really read uneducated reply? You might want to consider just going back to school to try and get an understanding of logic and reason, but I am thinking education might be your first course of action.

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  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    Those pages in my bible are missing. I must have used them rolling papers. Eventually, that whole damn book will be going up in smoke,Robert. By the way, I've never heard of an archbishop before who did such a good job of misspelling words.

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