A new survey revealed that for the first time in decades, there are more men than women sitting in the church pews every Sunday.
The recently released research from the Christian research organization Barna shows a massive gender gap in church attendance, with 43% of men attending church, and just 36% of women.
This shift began in the wake of the pandemic but has surged dramatically this year – marking what researchers believe is the widest gender disparity on record.
In an astounding reversal of a downward churchgoing trend just a few years ago, the study also shows a general surge in worship attendance among both genders:
However, there's no mistaking the gender gap in this data. Now researchers want to know: are men rediscovering the church, or are women walking away?
Single Moms Out, Married Dads In
Barna found that married dads are now the most likely group to attend church weekly, with 41% reporting they’d been to church in the last week. Only 24% of single mothers said the same – a dramatic reversal of long-standing trends.
For decades, mothers were seen as the spiritual backbone of the American family, often credited with shaping their children’s faith. Now, the pendulum appears to be swinging toward fathers, who may be embracing a role as the primary spiritual influence in their households.
And leading this spiritual revival? Young men.
Before the pandemic, just 15% of Gen Z men said they attended church. Today, that number has exploded to 46% – a staggering 31-point jump in only six years.
What’s Driving the Female Exodus?
As recently as 2018, churches were asking: where have all the men gone?
That concern is now completely reversed.
While church engagement is rising overall, young women are lagging significantly behind their male peers. Barna researchers outlined several reasons why single and younger women are stepping away from church life, including:
- Workplace responsibilities and overcommitment
- A continued emphasis on traditional gender roles
- Programming that centers on nuclear families
- Scandals and failures of male church leadership
It’s that last factor, researchers say, that may be the most consequential.
“High-profile scandals involving male church leaders, along with toxic teaching and exclusionary practices, have eroded trust — especially among women,” the researchers wrote. “When women see repeated examples of moral failure, abuse, or hypocrisy in church leadership, it deepens their disillusionment,” Barna Group CEO David Kinnaman.
Where Do Churches Go From Here?
The numbers paint a complex picture of faith in the midst of a cultural realignment, where men are re-entering the pews just as women are quietly slipping out the back door. Is this a temporary change, or the beginning of a lasting cultural shift? Are women leaving because the church no longer reflects their values, or are men simply finding new purpose within it?
What do you think is driving this dramatic gender divide in American Christianity?
87 comments
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Can't believe no one has said the obvious, IT'S FOR THE SEX. Christian women are so easy and will believe what they are told. Simple as that.
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ServantOfJudgement
Could be. I know actual men want a family and sex leads to that for now.
Modern women prefer a very high body count and those ones hang out around drunkards with low standards. They know those chicks don't pretend and they'll cut out and collateral damage, with the doctors advice of course.
You sound like you've got experience taking advantage of innocent church women. I've not noticed what you say but I'm a straight shooter and treat women with respect.
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Walter J. Holbrook
That is outstanding news. For many decades women have been the pillar of the church while men shy away.
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Daniel Todd Kamm
I forgot the premise of more men returning to church- based worship being reported here.
Who, what, when, where, why, how, and to what extent? Though I hear that line of questioning is no longer taught in our elementary schools.
How are we defining male, here? Are F-M Trans folks hopefully being welcomed into the folds?
Have some men finally decided that the measure of a man is measured far beyond his measure?
Or have men returned to certain congregations to reinforce that one's measure is actually one's measure of control... out of oneself, but of one's family and by "extension" to others.
And there ain't no man... unless that extension is money.
Peace, Out and Playfully... tk
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Daniel Todd Kamm
Check your history and the impact of German Nazis and later Nazis of "all" kinds on reigniting centuries old anti-Semitic crap within their Christian church congregations. As in any time, some believed, some did not and found ways to fight back, each according to ability and custom. Others fell into line to stay out of trouble.
Like when the bully follows you home and your parents complain and the bully's parents are no better... and some of us then feel sorry for the bully.
But the Nazi infiltration and impact didn't stop there. Their "patriotic" dogma ran over their churches' karma, while making sure their compatriots stayed in line with the Nazi line...or else.
Nazi's then, "Patriots" now. Which is too bad for the Patriots who founded and fought for what was once a democratic republic.
Mr Trump once said that he had read Hitler's "Mien Kampf," and that he even agreed with parts of it. Fair enough.
Mr. Hitler and Mr. Trump? Half a dozen of one, ten of another. Hitler obviously the dozen and Mr Trump less so.
But the game plan hasn't changed, and we have seen among certain evangelic and other groups... a definite move from worship of g-d, to a worship of whatever ya wanna call it.
Call it yourselves, see if it answers, and you had better be ready when it does....
Peace, Out...tk
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P. Keith Benefiel
It's just a club. Guys like clubs.
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Patricia Sydney Solis
True, according to Joseph Campbell historically, women's menstruation mysteries held them together as a group. Men as outsiders had to create their special rites - hunt pigs, create a male-only hierarchical church based on Rome. Otherwise men feel powerless because women have the power to birth life.
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Durwood M. Dugger
Here are four theories that might individually or combined contribute to the relatively recent rise of young white male church attendance:
Politics - Since 2020 there has been a global increase in far right political movements. In the US it has been lampooned as the “Guns, Guts and Grits Movement and characterized by large scale social media propaganda efforts by White Christian Nationalists. This in itself could account for the rise in young white male church attendance as the many US churches foster those far right ideologies.
Business - Church attendance has always been associated with being a tool for business social leverage. Not unlike golfing - the church is often used to as a social leverage tool in in business to create more business relationships.
Before we dismiss this relationship between organized religions’ churches and business/economics consider that - religious activities, both direct and indirect, contribute approximately $1.2 trillion annually to the US economy. This according to the Relgious Freedom & Business Foundation US religious activities economic contribution includes: • Congregations: $418 billion
• Religious institutions (such as faith-based universities, hospitals, and charities): $303 billion
• Faith-based, related, or inspired businesses: $437 billion.
US GDP in 2025 is about $27 trillion. Religious activities contribute approximately 4.4% of the total US economy directly and indirectly.The combined $1.2 trillion contribution is roughly equivalent to the size of the 15th largest national economy in the world and a significant portion of the overall US GDP.
The rise and fall of church attendance has generally correlated inversely with the success of educational science programs. According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress, science testing scores in grades 4-12 in the US have taken a significant decline since the Pandemic and expectations are for a further and greater decline under the current anti-science administration.
Gender - Since 2020 there has been an increase in traditional gender role reversals, and as well in actual gender confusion or gender dysphoria.
According to "Gender Dysphoria Statistics in the United States” - Among children and adolescents in the U.S., gender dysphoria diagnoses nearly tripled from approximately 15,000 in 2017 to over 42,000 in 2021. The growth of gender dysphoria growth trend has increased into 2025. Why wouldn’t this trend include impacts on church attendance - where weaker gender roles allow males to imitate former female church attendance majorities?
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Charles Fredric Hough
I am dismayed to find such vitriol and contention on a site where supposedly ministers congregate. I am firmly convinced that in the Heartland and even on the coasts the traditional nuclear family still exists. A husband who loves and supports his wife and children naturally gives thanks for his blessings and seeks a Church home as an environment to raise his family to become moral, loving, Christian adults. Ergo, attends Church.
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Rick Scott
Toxic masculinity the alpha male syndrome is chasing not only women but others from the church. Seems single males lacking social skills are using the church to reinforce this theory.
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JaZe
In a world that is 360 degrees how can one spend a life time in a little cabbage patch?
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Carly Danyel Cramblit
Men going to church because religion is designed to put them at head of household where wives are property and their daughters are to be traded and sold. Sick, delusional and weak minded. there are no gods just be a decent human for crying out loud.
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ServantOfJudgement
Really? I didn't get that paperwork when I became a Christian.
You mean to tell me I can order my wife around and sell my daughter if I need a new car? She's very pretty and I need a new big truck to look like a real man. Maybe one of those extra wide diesel dualies.
What about my son, any special stuff I can use him for to get a leg up in life?
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Debra Michaela Clover
Just a note: There is no such thing as 'single' mothers or fathers. There are however, lone parents.
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Rhonda E Dixon
I'm a woman. The more I read the Bible with fresh eyes & an open mind during the current times, I can admit to being in disbelief of what I've been sharing & following. I haven't lost my faith in a Higher Power but I just cannot get past the concerns I've always had since I was a child. Now, I view the Bible just as a collection of stories & viewpoints from mostly men. I'm reading other biblical literature, such as the Apocrypha & The Ethiopian Bible. I don't like that the church has always been controlled by misogynistic, narcissistic, insecure, mentally challenged, greedy, manipulative, dishonet, power hungry, predatory men. I'm pretty much done with Christianity. I just don't speak openly about it, because one of the worst things is christian hate. I posted this here because I don't visit this site often. Go in Peace!
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Dr. Bob Thomas
Organized religion has always sought its own goals. Christ had serious problems with the religious leaders, teachers, and historians. He called them out continuously, pointing to twisting God’s Commands for their own self gain. He also attacked the addition of their own traditions that left no room for mercy or the love of God. His ministry against the Jewish religious leaders was becoming so successful that they had Him killed! That alone should point out how messed up they had become. It is interesting that the Catholic Church today looks like the Jewish Religious Organization that He was struggling against in His time. It is no surprise to me that The Roman Catholic Church is so confused and misleading.
Young, single men are looking for guidance. The world has turned upside down and there is really no where for any one to go and learn how to be non confrontational while at the same time strong in their own beliefs. Polarization of personal beliefs has become confrontational almost by definition. Peaceful, constructive dialogue just doesn’t exist anymore. If this is because ultra rich individuals have kidnapped the dialogue and corrupted it for their own purposes; or there is costs a well funded organization that is intentionally destroying our society from the inside, I do not know. But no one can argue that things are happening in this country today that never would have before. Right now, men are looking at the church to see if that might be a place to restore some semblance of peace. I suspect that I just a short while that this increase will dissolve as they see for themselves that organized religion does not offer the peace that they are seeking.Unfortunately, no one actually offers that peace. All I can suggest is that we take a deep breath and think twice before we speak or act. That we consider the consequences of our actions before we do them. That we try to see the other persons point of view before we jump to gathering crosses and pitchforks.
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Velma Jean Taylor
I understand your perspective!!!
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Tom Herman
The article does not speak to "what Jesus would do" or any denomination for that matter. There are those who seem to need to post their own proselytizing into the comments. It only describes an increase in church attendance by men especially GenZ men and a decrease by women. I think there needs to be much more research into cause and effect before conclusions can become fact. There are multiple factors that can be attributed to this shift but without sound research they are all simply guesses. I for one would like to see research on the relationship between the empowerment of white male supremacy and the rise of Christian Nationalism for men and the organized movement of many Christian churches promotion of control of women, especially over their Healthcare choices. Again, these are just some factors for consideration but the careful reader may see where I'm going with this. I think religions need to cease forcing top down ideas of values and morality and allow their congregations to discover those for themselves.
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Catherine Isabella Osborne
Married dads versus single mothers? Well married dads are more likely to be part of a 2 income household, where Mom and Dad can hopefully make time for church. Single moms are more likely to need to work 2 jobs, especially in the post Covid economy, so this makes sense. Thankfully a lot of churches broadcast their services online now, so those who have to work don’t have to miss out completely.
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Florence V Shephard
More men going to church should be a comfort. My concern is not that more men are going to church, it is why are they going to church. If it is for faith that is great, if it is to tow the white nationalist philosophy, it is worth being wary of and most likely why women are leaving.
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Sheryl Kathryn Hussey
I think we must look at what Jesus would say and do. Jesus would not say, “Let all the children come to me, except the LGBTQ kiddos.” Jesus would not deny women a voice in their own health care. Jesus would celebrate our diversity. Jesus would want us to engage in civil discourse. Jesus would be shocked at masked men kidnapping women children and men off the streets and separating families, as a solution to a problem. Jesus would not condone using women and children as pawns in politics. Just my opinion Peace respect and blessings
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ServantOfJudgement
I can almost hear Jesus now.
Well Janet, I know you got drunk and fornicated with 5 guys and don't know who the baby daddy is. Go ahead and book on down to the clinic. Have the doctor's kill that little one so you can get through this tough time. Your sins are forgiven but please promise you won't do this again, and again like we talked about the last 6 times.
Ps, I'm not really worried about all the babies getting killed. A few million every year isn't a big deal, that's just white guy nationalist propaganda stuff but the drinking has got me really mad.
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Christine Nolte Joyce
The pandemic, the forced isolation and the economic insecurity of the past decade seeded the already fertile ground for the TP USA indoctrination campaign. The pandemic amplified the existing lack of meaningful community and connections for men. TP org infiltrated college campuses, high schools, and a vast number of financially struggling churches across our nation in an extremely well funded and well planned strategy to build a new "army" of "Christian soldiers" for what the HF boldly calls a Second American Revolution. And they have utilized Social media, podcasts and Gamer influencers with scalpel-like precision across the digital hemisphere. Remember, TP is an arm of the Heritage Foundation and is a coalition partner involved in the implementation of Project 2025. (You can look it up) They label themselves a Conservative movement but have been categorized as both a Christian Nationalist movement and a Christian Zionist movement by those who study the history of such movements. A case can be made (and has) that it is both. Once again, religion/faith is being perverted and bastardized for political power, control and greed. It has nothing to do with following the actual teachings of Jesus Christ. In fact, Jesus teaches us to beware of false prophets (Paula White-Cain, for example) and false apostles (I posit that C K would have qualified as such). We are in spiritually dark and dangerous times with people being so easily seduced by the "wolf in sheep's clothing".
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Rhonda E Dixon
Anyone who signs onto the christian nationalist/TPUSA are racist PERIOD! They want to eradicate or oppress anyone who is not a wealthy white man.
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ServantOfJudgement
Rhonda,
Does that include the black Americans that love and agree with Mr Kirk? I've heard black Americans can't be racist so I'll let you sort that out.
What about the latinos, Asians, indians and all the rest of the Not Whites that followed the man, are they racist too?
I'm not wealthy but I am mighty white, should I be watching out the window for TP associates or change my bank so they don't hack my wife's money?
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ServantOfJudgement
Hardly so Christine with your assessment of Mr Kirk but not his efforts. With his efforts you're spot on. He boldly walked directly into the enemy's stronghold and laid waste to its walls again and again.
Mr. Kirk most definitely did as the Bible commands it's believers to to if gifted in that way, which he is.
As far as false teachers go, yep, Paula White fits that one well. There are a bunch out there. If you hear Christians say it's ok to break the law, say the Bible doesn't teach that God is not in opposition to the act of homosexuality (Jesus said thinking it is a sin, even tougher), partake in breaking the law or aiding those who are breaking the law, you've got a false prophet/teacher on your hands. If churches fly the rainbow(God's promise) for pride(Satan's sin) stay away from that church, it's got a false teacher running things.
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Katherine Anne Chapman
Perhaps disenfranchised younger men are going back to the patriarchal churches looking for validation, and hoping to find female partners who are still buying into that dialog. Meanwhile, young women who are disenchanted with the patriarchal paradigm are exiting in droves. Mismatched hopes and expectations. Statistically speaking, of course.
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Dawn Stone
I believe many women are leaving the church because their faith has been shattered by traditional teachings about “roles” that keep them spiritually and emotionally indentured to men.
For too long, the same men who claim to lead in God’s name have abused that power - twisting scripture to control rather than uplift. Women are tired of being told to submit, to stay quiet, to shrink. We’re realizing that solitude and self-sovereignty often bring more peace than servitude disguised as faith.
What we’re seeing now is a shift. Women are awakening to their strength - recognizing that we’ve carried the emotional, spiritual, and practical weight of creation all along. We bring life into this world, nurture homes, hold communities together, and still somehow were told we were the “weaker vessel.” That lie doesn’t hold power anymore.
As for the rise in male church attendance, I can’t help but wonder if it’s rooted in a genuine search for love and faith - or in the hunger for power and control. Too many modern churches have become “Paulians,” preaching the word of Paul over the teachings of Yeshua. Love, compassion, and equality - the true heart of Christ’s message - have been replaced with fear, domination, and doctrine.
Women are saying “no more.” We were meant to be cherished, loved, and protected - not silenced and used. The age of submission is over. The new world being born is one where women remember their worth and no longer bow to distorted versions of faith.
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ServantOfJudgement
The spirit of the age is pulling women into witchcraft and paganism.
I know of no Christian woman who is treated in the way you, the left and universities say Christian women are treated. All Christian women I know are pampered by their husbands.
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Steven Ferrell
As others have mentioned, the article talks about married dad vs. single mothers and make no mention of married mothers vs single dads. This really is a very lopsided discussion.
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Mark P. Bender
What would Jesus say?
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ServantOfJudgement
He's say it's great news and tell those men to be good role models for their wives and children.
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Rev. Klaire ThD, MA
Last gasp?
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Percy Kleinops
All the comments ignore a spiritual quest, spirituality within. There is so much noise telling everyone what everyone should do or be that it has distracted from the kingdom within. It is there were we find God. Women are turned off by voices that leave them empty within. Men are hearing calls that demand they display their historic dominance over their domain. That dominance excludes the spiritual. When ignored there is an urge to seek it, if you listen. Gen Z are feeling it, but If men or women are not fed spiritual food that satisfies the spiritual hunger they will not return.
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Ronaldo
I noticed that this article said that 41% of married dads said they attended church, but only 24% of single mothers say they did. What about the unmarried dads, or married mothers? In the past, when most mothers stayed at home to raise children, they had time to go to church, taking their children with them, and used that time to fellowship with other women and learn from them. They traded childrearing information and recipes, for instance. Men went to church when they had the time, but some worked on Sundays, so could not go. Those who could did so because the Bible says they should hold each other accountable for their actions, which tended to help guide them down the narrow path of righteous behavior. This was during a time when personal reputation was important, so that helped. I suspect that many unmarried fathers, especially those who are not caring for their children, tend to avoid church because they don't want to be judged by their peers.
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Lee Jason
I agree completely with you and must add; Men didn’t want to be judged by their peers and growing up there was always the sigma that men deal with things themselves. However with the numerous availability of resources for women there is very few for men. Married men might be finding the church again because they have nothing else to help them through troubles within their family units. Women have empowerment everywhere and there seems to be a huge shift in women against men. Maybe this too is bringing men back to the church so they can feel like they belong somewhere and have a network as well. In the past it was often men who dominated the home and how they did it was kept quiet. I don’t condone it at all. Now it has flipped and many married men are finding themselves in abusive homes with nowhere to turn. Many don’t speak out because of our age old sigma so men getting together through the church may be an alluring answer.
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Lee Jason
In my situation I see it for maybe men are at a loss and need something larger than themselves to look towards. As a child and younger man I was always involved with the church. Then with all the scandals with the church I fell away from it. However after being completely decimated through a divorce and having my family ripped from me from lies I found myself looking for that larger belief system again to get me through it. Anything to keep me from giving up. Divorce is at an all time high as well with record amounts of men being accused of abuse within their family. Men, their families and reputations are being destroyed in a system that doesn’t believe them at all. Suicides of divorced men is skyrocketing and from what I have seen many are lost. Many are bringing their kids back to the church on weekends they have their kids. Younger men are inundated with women all over the internet and most of them do not come across as family oriented. Many are proud in their femininity to have many partners and stray within relationship’s. I think there has been a massive shift in morals within society and this could be causing the church shift as well. I don’t know I’m not a statistician just what I have viewed in the last few years.
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ServantOfJudgement
Sorry to hear of your troubles Lee. I like your positive attitude and outlook through it all. That's tough to do.
Women are being programmed to see men as a, THE problem and men are being programmed to be like women. Some men and some women are finding glitches in the new programming. An old ancient Truth sheds light on these glitches.
Like a chemists separatory funnel, the national division is becoming more and more visible. As of late, the left is applauding the assassination of CEOs and campus speakers, men must see the evil coming.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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John T. Watson
My only comment is this. Do you believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ or are you just playing a game? I for one not only believe Jesus was born of the virgin Mary, lived and performed many miracles while preaching His gospel, went to the cross and died, and three days later arose from the dead, and then eventually rose to Heaven where He sits at the right hand of God the Father. It is in Jesus Christ I believe and trust for my salvation. Argue all you want about numbers but in the end only God knows what is in each person's heart.
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Joseph Grieco
It's not so much G_d knowing what's in each of our hearts, but the damage to the reputation of Christians everywhere by the actions of these who so publicly profess their faith, but at the same time take actions that would have made Yeheshua weep in shame at what was done in His name.
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
As a full-time missionary, under the auspices of the Universal Life Church, denomination “Secular Humanist Pantheists” — I’ve hypothesized that white males are now attracted to fundamentalist Protestantism, because the GOP has now commingled itself with white Christian males, who, after they find out what the “Doctrine of Discovery” is (simply by Googling it) makes converting to Doctrine of Discovery supporters, somewhat inevitable. After all, whatever other opinion do white Christian Nationalists have, than help fulfill “Manifest Destiny” which is taught in most of the USA’s public schools?
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Joseph Grieco
Most Public and Parochial Schools limited the discussion of "Manifest Destiny" to a brief and discredited topic covering the early 19th Century history of the US. Especially in justifying continually breaking the treaties signed with the native populations based on expediency. Where you see it pushed beyond the limits are in many of the private "Church Run" schools. There, they often link it to the Christian Nationalism they teach, developing a lock-step attitude of many of the youth regarding this.
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Reverend Paula Copp
I’m not a bit surprised… look at the rise of “christian nationalism”. It’s allowing young white men a feeling of belonging to a “righteous crusade” doing “god’s work.” The entire dogma of christian nationalism is to keep WASPs (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant) in charge. It’s a disgusting method to keep oppressing women and minorities. It’s just just another nail in the coffin of a dead America.
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Keith David Harry
Yet I’m sure if those same white males were out there promoting your Rainbow coalition of Unicorn, socialistic transgender indoctrination to oppress what a real woman or man is ; you’d have no problem. However, because you lump every white male into one category ( as I did above ; ridiculous isn’t it ) I would posit that YOU are as much of the problem as those that you decry. If you wish to worship, then worship. If you don’t, then don’t. I judge you on character; and you have been measured, weighed and found extremely lacking.
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John E Karlin
Got an F in basic science huh?
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Keith David Harry
Whose science? Proven science, or your made up agenda science.
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ServantOfJudgement
Don't sweat it Keith, the basic science they're talking about 2+2=2,3,4 or 5 depending on what 1 and 0 equal which is usually 2 or 7 and sometimes 12.
Super duper easy to understand once you forget all about the science you think you know. I think once you do that you're golden.
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John E Karlin
And you too got an F in basic science. Logic also. Too bad.
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John E Karlin
Got an F in basic science huh?
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Lionheart
Yes, Obama and Biden (12 years total and that’s a long time) have a lot to answer for. 🤪
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James Riggle-Johnson
Funny, I didn’t see anything about Obama or Biden in her comments.
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ServantOfJudgement
Maybe it's sarcasm because of the last 3 presidents two aren't white anglo Saxon protestants and the third is definitely not Christian at all, I hear he's Satan. The last VP was a chick who was the first black Asian Latino chick president ever.
Definitely looks like the white anglo Saxon protestant nationalist movement I hear so much about but never seen.
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Lionheart
James: I was referring to 12 years of administration under Obama and Biden that has contributed to dead America, referenced by Paula Copp. I’m sorry you didn’t see the connection.
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John E Karlin
List provable examples of Obama and Biden creating a dead America. LOL.
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Lionheart
I’m sure you are not serious, unless you have been living under a rock during their administration. Can you honestly not see how society has gone crazy over these last couple of decades, with looting, burnings, mayhem in many liberal cities/states, the creation of sanctuary states and cities. Illegal aliens being given jobs over American citizens. The failure of Obamacare with its increasing prices. Record inflation under Biden, the creation of woke ideologies, free money being given to illegal aliens and housing them in hotels when our own homeless citizens are on the streets. Our borders were basically opened to let millions of illegal aliens in, and we lost 300,000 children in that effort with no one knowing where they went. How much more do you need to realize that America has been on a downward spiral for quite a few years and was slowly dying? I’m firmly convinced that if Kamala Harris had won the election, it would’ve been the end of the United States as we once used to know it.
At last we have someone that has the spheres to get this nation back on its feet, which is not going to be easy. It’s possibly going to take a few years to correct the damage. I’m sorry if you do not like President Trump, but it is what it is for at least the next three years, and hopefully longer.
Finally, other countries are now starting to look up to the United States like they used to. It’s possible you won’t be able to see that, depending on what color glasses you’re wearing.
Anyway, sit back, relax, and enjoy the remainder of this administration. Let’s all hope that America can once again be great and a safe place to live in.
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Patricia Sydney Solis
Once again, these trolls who can't use their real names are here to paste their nonsense. Just ignore them and use your critical thinking skills. Besides, the reality is that most countries are turning AWAY from the USA. Trump has made the USA a pariah.
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Lionheart
Thank you for your thoughts, but not to worry you only have to wait another 3 years before the next election and it might even be possible that the Democrats have a leader of the party by then. How confident are you that you might win next time? 🤷
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John E Karlin
So you can't post valid, reliable source, reference for your claims (delusional opinion) too bad. Your jabbering is not evidence or proof of anything.
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Lionheart
Would I be correct in assuming you don’t live in LA, Portland, Colorado, NY, or Chicago?
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Michael Hunt
I have family in LA, friends in NY and I just visited Portland a month ago. None of those cities are warzones or burning to the ground. You've just been drinking the Kool-Aid jug dry.
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Lionheart
Just as I thought, you don’t “live” in any of those places. It’s what i suspected.
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Michael Hunt
So because I do not specifically live in these cities, I am unable to speak on what is occurring there? Even if I go to these places and see what is happening there with my own eyes, as I did in Portland, my experience is invalid simply because I'm not there every day? Even if I have friends and relatives who do live in these places and they relay to me what they are witnessing in their city, my retelling of their experiences holds no weight?
You still cannot support any of your claims with reliable sources and have resorted to dodging the questions and criticisms brought to you instead of defending your claims. I can only guess this is because you recognize that you have no sources to back up your claims because your claims aren't based in reality.
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John E Karlin
Whether I live in those places or not is irrelevant. You post claims that you can not validate with any valid, reliable references. That is the FACT. Just BS.
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Joseph Grieco
Yeah, after all, who needs things like access to health care, voting rights, projects to improve the roads and internet connectivity into rural and less affluent areas, updating educational facilities, encouraging literacy, as well as the greatest increase in national wealth in decades. Stuff like that makes the populace too hard to control!
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Lionheart
Our homeless citizens need access to healthcare, and mental healthcare. Our homeless citizens need major help. Take a look at some of the streets in Los Angeles for instance where millions of dollars were appropriated to help with that crisis. No one seems to know where that money went. Hopefully Gavin Newsom knows. Yes we need voting rights, mainly for American citizens, and those that are actually alive. 🤭
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John E Karlin
Post valid, reliable source for your claims. Otherwise, no reason to believe any of it.
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Lionheart
Presumably, you don’t live in Los Angeles County like I do. If you did, you would not be asking that question. Measures were approved consisting of millions of dollars to help our homeless from our hard earned money. Come and visit Los Angeles and see for yourself. That’s all the proof you will need and you will also be left wondering where that money went because there has been absolutely no improvement whatsoever, and in fact, it’s possibly worse than it has ever been.
Interestingly, I notice homeless illegal aliens were given money and in many cases free board and lodging in hotels of which I am sure many of our homeless citizens would have loved to have had that luxury.
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Patricia Sydney Solis
Trump just bailed out Argentina with $40 billion. Where's America First? Use those billions to help the homeless and fund healthcare! Trump and the GOP shut down the gov to avoid Americans' healthcare! Yet a billionaire hedge fund investor benefits from the Argentina bailout, a country that's defaulted before! USA buying Argentina pesos but not funding homes and healthcare. Pretty wrong.
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Lionheart
Oh, do you mean he can’t use any of the money to form an alliance with Argentina that DOGE found being wasted for people of other countries by Dems? I didn’t hear you saying America First with Biden’s wasteful spending. I wonder why? 🤔
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Michael Hunt
Because "America First" wasn't the policy position of Biden.
Your ducking and dodging of questions presented to you is tiresome and your repeated attempts to distract away from the legitimate criticism brought against your points only underscores the shallowness of them.
Learn how to find legitimate sources for your information instead of the mysterious, nebulous sources you have still yet to ever name. Are you too ashamed of your sources of information to admit to what they are or do you just make things up based on what you think and feel?
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Lionheart
You are so right that Biden’s policy wasn’t America First, possibly America Last. 🤭
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John E Karlin
Your jabbering opinion is not a valid, reliable source, reference. Guess you don't have any.
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Lionheart
Bless your heart, you must be really hurting that your Party didn’t win the election. Not to worry though, only another three years to go before the next one. I’m thinking it should be possible for your Party will have a leader by then?
It’s totally okay if you think my opinion is not valid. Fortunately, many people had the same opinion as me at the last election and that’s basically all that really matters.
Please don’t feel obligated to read my posts if you are finding it difficult with my replies, or if they don’t meet your expectations. We all have different views, thoughts, and opinions here at the Monastery blog. It’s so nice to be just a happy loving respectful family here.
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John E Karlin
The Republican in the Republican youth group (that goes up to age 40) is no kid. He posted: "I love Hitler". That pretty much says it all about who they and you are. End of discussion.
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Lionheart
Are you under the impression that because one person says something stupid you think everyone is the same?
Here we have someone that looks to be a liberal being arrested for saying something stupid in the way of threatening some peoples lives. Do I think every liberal is the same? I hope not!
https://www.wwlp.com/news/crime/massachusetts-woman-faces-charges-for-threats-against-ice-agents/
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Robert Berry
What kind of insensitive thing is that to say? Why throw rocks and mud when it's not even pertinent?
A dead America? I somehow failed to notice our Nation's death. If you mean when Trump mishandled a global pandemic that killed over ten million people and left nearly 15% of American worker unemployed? It was just a wound that Biden healed and returned us to a booming economy.
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ServantOfJudgement
Robert, I agree it was terrible for Trump to ram a poisonous vaccination that doesn't vaccinate through the rigorous testing protocol we all rely on.
What's worse, under Biden by his direction OSHA attempted to force Americans to take the poisonous jab under penalty of poverty. That would have crippled America and killed millions more.
Thank God the Justices Trump appointed got in the way and saved the people and country from certain catastrophic failure from such a fascist president.
Let's hope Trump isn't fooled again during his historic second term.
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Patricia Sydney Solis
These trolls Like ServantofJudgment not using their real names are paid to stir up trouble. They have no credibility. Ignore them.
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John E Karlin
You are correct. They are nothing but right wing trolls. Christian Nationalist who are not Christian and very Anti-U.S.
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ServantOfJudgement
Dearest Patricia,
Lefties will swat, beat and murder their opponents. The end justifies their means. Observe the cheering of our fellow Christian's assassination, Mr Charlie Kirk.
For what it's worth my full proper name means "God's Gracious and Handsome Servant of Judgement".
PS, it's not very nice to call people names Patricia, especially fellow Christians.
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John E Karlin
You are no Christian.
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J. Anderson
...still the same old query, does a periodic attendance to bow your head in public grant one a 'hall pass' for not 'walking their talk' outside of the temple?
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Joseph Grieco
They need to be seen publicly expressing their faith. Just like the ones described by Yeheshua, wearing their finest robes, standing up and shouting their prayers, rather than doing it quietly in a corner unseen by anyone. That way no one can deny their Christian Credentials when they set out to deprive others of their rights.
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Lionheart
Which, if true, possibly shows that us men are possibly more gullible than women? 🤪
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Patricia Ann Gross
Naw. It's that the Fundamentalist Evangelical Non-Denominational Fringe (with absolutely no theological training or education) speak to young boys doing their test-drive of testosterone. The notion that women are "playthings" and to be kept silent appeals to them, as something they can be the master of.
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ServantOfJudgement
Back in the good ole days Patricia young men would go to the bar where girls would line up for those test drives. Now church is the place? They got a back room for that stuff for privacy?
Asking for a friend....
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Over the centuries devotees of all religions have ebbed and flowed with the times. The fact that more men than women are currently joining the church is also indicative of the times.Most people join an organized religion to belong to something meaningful, in essence, to find God. However, what a lot of them really find is a church full of people all hoping and praying for the same meaningful experience. The fact is that all people have their own biases, insecurities, prejudices, and fears; attitudes and emotions that they honed over a lifetime, and even though they are not easy to shake, they manage to set them aside for one hour every Sunday. They spend 1 hour each week in a pew, forgetting about who they really are, and hoping that God has a plan for them. They spend the other 167 hours of the week forgetting about God, his plan, and going about the business of who they really are, warts and all. Organized religion isn’t for everyone. At one time I thought it was for me, but I learned something along the way; I don’t need a priest to talk to God for me, I talk to Him just fine on my own. I don’t need a room full of people all chanting the same phrases and prayers that they have been chanting every Sunday since they were old enough to to recite them correctly and in cadence with the rest of the flock. I can chant just fine on my own and in my own words. I don’t just talk to God on Sundays, I talk to God every day. I don’t ask him for anything outrageous, like riches, or winning the lottery, I don’t ask him for miracles, like when my brother was dying from leukemia. I asked Him that my brother be greeted by our parents and other family members, and friends, and that he be surrounded by love and protected by Angels of light. God has already given me this life and an eternal soul, what else could I possibly ask for? I thank Him for my life, my eternal soul, and all that He has done for me. I thank Him for my family, friends, and Spirit Guides, who are always with me. It’s easy to talk to God, He doesn’t have to answer. Just know that He is the Creator of all things, and He is eternal, and so are we.