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Hindu leaders say they want parts of the Bhagavad Gita taught in Louisiana classrooms.

Earlier this year, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry signed into law a controversial piece of legislation mandating classrooms across the state display the Ten Commandments.

The rationale, as explained by bill sponsors, is that the Ten Commandments are a historical document relevant to United States history, and that they should be displayed in classrooms for historical purposes – not religious ones.

While legal challenges are being mounted against the bill, it remains the law for now, and Louisiana students will probably see the Ten Commandments in class come this fall.

Now, Hindu leaders are seeking equal treatment under the law for a document important to their faith. 

What About the Bhagavad Gita?

It seemed inevitable: If Christians get their faith represented in the classroom, why not other faiths? Hindu leaders are the first to see if they too can adorn public school classrooms with their religious teachings, starting with passages from the Hindu holy text, the Bhagavad Gita.

The President of the Universal Society of Hinduism Rajan Zed explained that the Gita was massively influential on some of America’s most prominent people, particularly in the realm of arts and science.

He cites Henry David Thoreau, Alduous Huxley, Albert Einstein, and J. Robert Oppenheimer amongst those who held the Gita close to their hearts. Zed says that this makes the Gita similarly is a “historically significant document” that is also a “treasure that should be displayed in public school classrooms.”

The Gita’s presence in the classroom would make students “well-nurtured, well-balanced, and enlightened citizens of tomorrow,” explained Zed. And not to worry about the cost: He says the Hindu community will foot the bill for every single poster.

Commanding the Classroom

How did we get here? 

Proponents of the Ten Commandments requirement insists it's not intended to promote religion in public school classrooms, but instead to sharpen historical context for students. 

“The purpose is not solely religious,” explained the bill's sponsor, State Sen. Jay Morris. Rather, the Ten Commandments will be required for their "historical significance, which is simply one of many documents that display the history of our country and foundation of our legal system.”

Critics have labeled this justification as a less-than-subtle attempt to sneak Christianity back in public schools on very shaky legal grounds. “This is a historical document,” explained bill co-author, State Rep. Lauren Ventrella, in a CNN interview. “This is a historical document in Louisiana, because in Louisiana we believe in faith, family, and freedom.”

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A Growing Movement

The controversial bill has already been challenged in court, with the complaint arguing that it “pressures students into religious observance, veneration, and adoption of the state’s favored religious scripture.” 

Despite the legal opposition, more states may soon be following suit; there appears to be a national movement underway to further integrate the Bible and Christian teachings into the classroom.

Oklahoma State Superintendent Ryan Walters just directed all public schools in his state to teach the Ten Commandments, describing the Bible as an “indispensable historical and cultural touchstone.”

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Other states are said to be considering similar legislation.

Can Other Faiths Join?

This development begs the question: could other religions make similar arguments to be included in classroom curricula? How, exactly, is historical significance determined here?

There are nearly two billion Muslims on the planet and over 1.2 billion Hindus – should their faith be represented on classroom walls? If we’re talking purely American history… what about some of America’s homegrown faiths? Shouldn’t the Mormon Church get some classroom real estate? What about Scientology? 

It’s certainly a slippery slope.

Whether the Louisiana bill survives these legal challenges remains to be seen, but in the meantime, Rep. Ventrella issued a pointed message for the critics: if they don’t like it, “don’t look at it.”

Some wonder if she’ll share the same sentiment if Hindu leaders get their way. 

What do you make of the controversy? Should the Ten Commandments be posted on the walls of classrooms? And if so, should texts from other religions also be permitted? 

141 comments

  1. Chris's Avatar Chris

    Absolutely. Since this never was supposed to be a "Christian" nation, with the First Amendment flat out forbidding a National Religion, the 10 Commandments don't belong in public schools. However, if the Christian Nationalists are forcing it, then it opens the door for other religious beliefs as well. Hindu, Muslim, Pagan, all religions should be represented so the students can study about them as well. And if they demand their bible be taught in public schools the only way it should be taught is as any other piece of literature. It is not a textbook, it does not belong in public schools, but if these people are going to demand religious rights, it needs to pertain to all, not just theirs.

    1. Zekester's Avatar Zekester

      Agreed 100%

    2. amacooke's Avatar amacooke

      I think its a wonderful idea. Every person in any country should learn about everyone's chosen religion. Perhaps the world would be a more tolerant place.

      1. Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox's Avatar Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox

        I find it odd that you think religion would result in more tolerance. My experience is religion is harmful to women, minority groups, to those who do not share a specific, narrow version of christianity, and especially to the LGBTQIA2S+ community.

    3. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      Um no, your whole claim is utter hogwash. The ONLY thing that you got right is that the founding fathers didnt want a national religion, the rest of your claim has been historically proved wrong.

      1. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

        Actually no, it really isn't utter hogwash. Legal scholars discuss this sort of thing at length. As for it being hogwash, it's in their agenda. You should read the project 2025 information out on the web as well as what's written about it in many books now.

  1. Daniel Todd Kamm's Avatar Daniel Todd Kamm

    The USA wasn't founded on christian principals... or religion at all... it was founded on enlightenment and capitalist ideals of the rich and influential of their time. These were educated, upper and middle class people who took the reigns and created the revolution that we now hold so "dear."

    These were not, as a whole. religious people. They believed in science and philosophy. But like everything else in life, it was messy.

    Everyone else was dragged into it via incitement (propaganda) or conscription. Which was hard to get out of if one was an indentured servant at the time. Wasn't so great during Vietnam either...!

    Certainly some people fled the tyranny of the abundant abusive euro-christian-religious institutions in their own times... but they get way too much credit for that as a reason for founding principles except as a justification for those principals and the establishing of a "paper trail" so to speak... by those who cam later on... not to mention, a holiday tradition that's been elevated to a status higher than any religious tradition ever was... my G*d those airports at Thanksgiving!

    But those people fleeing from the endless slaughter that was Europe at the time came here long after euros had already invaded, exploited , enslaved and virtually eliminated through various means the peoples and resources they found here.

    Religion was simply one of many tools they used to justify themselves, which was no different than what was going on in europe at the time... and both still managed a profit.

    Later on with the "founding" of the US, the separation of church and state was essential... the founders knew what trouble religion could be, especially to the bottom line... and they knew religion was a powerful force in the hands of the uneducated and the reckless ... they knew that crazy people could very easily undermine their new club and general prosperity.

    So they carved out a place for prosperity and they carved out a place for religion. And never the twain should have met until the 700 Club and eventually Jim and Tammy Faye came along....

    Unfortunately, some can't tell the difference between these ideals. It's hard when one's mascara is running down one's face while begging for money....

    Still I have to take issue with statements such as:

    "Because GOD did not approve of anything Hindu unless they converted. The US was founded on Christian principals. Thusly, we should honor our SAVIOR, LORD CHRIST JESUS, and HIS FATHER. Amen"

    I would like to add that there was a mother in there someplace, after that father's hit and run... typical of so many fathers.... which is why there is family court and child support....

    And lastly and sadly...

    I would like to acknowledge several tragedies that have occurred this week here in our city... two of our local Jewish cemeteries were vandalized again this week... 180 or so headstones knocked over broken, etc... and several of our neighborhoods have been targeted this past week with anti LGBTQ+/- XYXPDQ etc. , antisemetic, KKK and right-wing christian propaganda ... right now, they are hitting most of the progressive neighborhoods, the universities, etc...of course....

    Apparently they did not learn the ideals behind the Ten Commandments....

    Similarly this ideal:

    "Because GOD did not approve of anything Hindu unless they converted. The US was founded on Christian principals. Thusly, we should honor our SAVIOR, LORD CHRIST JESUS, and HIS FATHER. Amen"

    G*d grant ya'll peace...

    Reb tk

    1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

      why are any of you so stuck on what people 250 years ago said or did as it is apparently supposed to matter now? these same people also murdered suspected witches and technology and science were from the time in history also. they treated people with leeches. So if what they said or did as people of their time, would you rather your doctor kept a jar of leeches in his or her office too?

      1. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

        We are talking about the way this country was started. Medicine does continue to improve over the years based in testing and facts and has switched to transfusions so that blood drained is replaced by more. Even making sure blood types match has improved that. Now can we please stick to the main topic? This country was set up with specific guidelines in place. You don't have to like them but it is a fact. It was also given a way to change those guidelines by majority rule. The majority has not yet given up on forcing a very specific religion on the whole. If people actually educate themselves on our country it's development as well as how it's governance has developed they would better understand freedom to believe and practice as you see fit VS forcing everyone else to follow along according to your personal belief. The history of the bible and other religious books might also be a good idea. A little more understanding and a lot less demanding does everyone a world of good.

        1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

          And yet a narcissistic Nazi wannabe perv initiated an attack on this nations capital for the first time in this countries history by an excuse for an elected official and should be in a federal prison with all other terrorists, yet there are still people refusing to see what he is and most of them backward thinkers trying to bring back outdated and bigoted attitudes like those of the founding fathers. they had an excuse. they were people of their times with the development level available to them. Those of us in these more advanced times do not have that excuse.

    2. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      and your whole post is historically inaccurate.

      1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

        Without any sources, that's just your OPINION!

        1. Rev. Mike Eggleston's Avatar Rev. Mike Eggleston

          Nice one Michael.

    3. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

      Daniel,

      90-98% of the colonials were Christian which brought us this profound statement.

      "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

      This bold statement sets our creator on center stage, above any man or government. It the driving force and justification for defiance against tyranny.

      We most certainly were founded on biblical principles with its author center stage.

      1. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

        Yes, but that is from the declaration of Independence, not the constitution. We live by the constitution.

      2. Lady Mutt Cat's Avatar Lady Mutt Cat

        Yes. "All men". At the time that didn't include women or black folks. Do you really want to dredge that racist, misogynistic stuff up as an exemplar?

  1. Eugene T Rice's Avatar Eugene T Rice

    Whatever one calls sacred, the Christian bible, the Jewdaic Torah, the Koran, the Mahanaya sutras, or the Harley Davidson owners manual, should remain in one's home. The first words of our bill of rights gaurantee that "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion". The Ten Commandments should not appear in a publicly funded school, lest that indicate a preference to a certain group of believers. The role of a school is to teach the young how to think, not what to think. . .

  1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

    Unless it's a mythology class, religion doesn't belong in public schools.

    1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      Says who? SCOTUS has ruled time and time again that it does.

      1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

        And where is your proof that they know what they are doing? David Karesh memorized your Bible and called himself a prophet. He had plenty of followers too.

      2. Robert James Ruhnke's Avatar Robert James Ruhnke

        And someday soon, it can be struck down. You act like laws don’t or can’t change. Once these traitorous and clearly hyper biased judges are gone, better ones can replace their corruption.

  1. Theresa C. Marquess's Avatar Theresa C. Marquess

    To offer one, you must offer all. I may not agree with all religions, however, I do respect them. Personally, I believe in the Golden Rule. Do unto others...

    1. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

      Are you aware that the so-called Golden Rule is from the Bible?

      1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

        Are you aware that most religions, including religions older than Christianity, also include the Golden Rule in them? It's not unique to Christianity.

  1. John Condron's Avatar John Condron

    Bill Sponsor State Sen. Jay Morris is clearly "lying for Jesus (TM)" when she makes the "historical significance" claim. The Hindus will not be the only ones putting her "historical significance" claim to the test by demanding that their holy documents be displayed with equal prominence. If nothing else, the Code of Hammurabi has even greater historical significance than the Ten Commandments. Further, which version will be displayed? Her bill seems to single out one that isn't even a decent translation. How about the Egyptian version on which the Hebrew version was clearly based?

  1. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

    No, the 10 Commadments should not be posted in public schools. Period. However. If is then all other religions should be allowed to post similar tenets of their own faith.

    FYI I am a Christian, evangelical, Jesus loving, Bible believing.

    1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      And the SCOTUS has already ruled that it CAN be taught in schools. KNow what you speak of BEFORE you start to speak SCOTUS Engle v Vitale 1962

      1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

        She never questioned whether you could or couldn't, just that she believes they should not be. Why so rude?

      2. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

        Nope! you are wrong and you should know what you speak of BEFORE you speak Engle vs Vitale 1962

        "Citing Engel, the Court held that school-sponsored Bible reading constituted government endorsement of a particular religion, and thus violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Public schools may not prohibit student religious groups from meeting on school grounds after hours."

        "In his concurrence, Justice Douglas took an even broader view of the Establishment Clause, arguing that any type of public promotion of religion, including giving financial aid to religious schools, violates the Establishment Clause. "

      3. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

        Then the country needs new judges. as mentioned before what you are trying to push is the same as cult leaders like David Karesh and Jim jones. they knew your Bible better than mist others. what is your favorite kool aide flavor?

      4. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

        A severely corrupt SCOTUS.

  1. Pamela Kay Waters's Avatar Pamela Kay Waters

    Not religion should be kept out of schools and more teaching on bullying and respectfulness. Just because of the difference religions that are practiced here.

  1. Diane Minna LaFave's Avatar Diane Minna LaFave

    The schools should teach about all Faiths . And, yes , all Faiths should be able to display whatever that pertains to their Faith. I was educated about many Faiths in the 10th grade. IMO, it should also be taught earlier .

  1. Ashley D.'s Avatar Ashley D.

    As a Christian minister and Master of Ministry student, I am absolutely horrified and embarrassed by the number of comments here that don’t display any grace, humility or love!

    What American Christians seem to have forgotten, is that Christianity is based on Christology, following the teachings of Christ. His command was clear, love. I see so little in American Christians. Every conversation seems to turn nasty…

    Obviously this is a generalisation, but as an outsider looking in, I pray that there will be more grace, humility and love.

    1. April Camille Berg's Avatar April Camille Berg

      I totally agree with you. I’m glad someone still follows Mark 12:30,31. All one can do is lead by example.

  1. Rev Ned's Avatar Rev Ned

    Louisiana is 47th in education. The kids probably can’t read them anyway.

    1. Richard Faust's Avatar Richard Faust

      Something that would come from a Bigot or Racist. Why are you blaming the children?

      1. Lady Mutt Cat's Avatar Lady Mutt Cat

        Nothing bigoted or racist in that comment. Why are you attacking a perfectly valid opinion?

  1. Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.'s Avatar Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.

    I pwesonally prefer the Bagavad Gita. But it is too large to put on a wall.

  1. Bishop William Dusenberry, DD's Avatar Bishop William Dusenberry, DD

    As an Oklahoma resident, and with the understanding that Dr.Walters (Oklahoma’s State Superintendent of Education ) is a proud patriotic American; and as ULC bishop, from Broken Arrow, Oklahoma (Oklahoma’s fourth largest city) I’ve recommended that Dr. Walters use the Bible ( which happens to be available from ULC ministries) the patriotic “Thomas Jefferson Bible”and for my fellow ULC clergy persons, I ask them to contact Dr. Walters in this regard, too. Oklahomans who support Bible-reading in the public schools, aren’t aware of the patriotic “Thomas Jefferson Bible” ergo they tend to favor the King James Bible” while unaware that King James was a tyrant, who did everything he could, to promote keeping kings in charge of everything in not only England, but in all of their colonies too. King James was a dictatorial tyrant, who wanted England to eliminate all hopes and expectations for the development of a democracy in the newly developing USA, But, hopefully in terms of the use of the King James Bible, in Oklahoma, there are enough public school students, and parents, who, if the King James Bible is used at all, in public schools, it should be used ina comparative religion-type class, which begins with the Egyptian acknowledgment of the Sun God, then a quick review of Greek and Roman Gods, which morphed into Judeo/ Christian Gods, until science replaced any more need, to continue to personify nature — by referring to nature, as God.

    1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      Again you are mistaken. You claim Dr Walters is the state head of Education, but his opinion does not mean squat. According to the McGirt decision in 2020 by the US Supreme Court, it ruled that the "Five Civilized nations" in Oklahoma now according to treaties own over half of the state of Oklahoma" and that INCLUDES Tulsa and Broken Arrow, do not have to follow anything this guy says as he has absolutely no authority over them nor their schools. Each Native American Reservation out there is its own separate nation with its own laws and its on form of government, meaning your false claim of being a Bishop, wont amount to a hill of beans or a butt burp in a high wind. So your opinion wont matter as neither they nor the Five Civilized Nations either will listen to your rantings nor will they have to accept your rantings nor his.

      You really need to stop trying to puff up your reputation as its not only not working, it makes you look desperate for attention.

      1. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

        Honestly. You cannot insist on proof and then ignore or deny when some is presented. Again, if you cannot understand the difference between belief and fact you really don't have the footing.

      2. Bishop William Dusenberry, DD's Avatar Bishop William Dusenberry, DD

        Anyone who’s unfamiliar with the White European Christian obligation (mandate) to do whatever they need to do (and, this was during the European Inquisition); to both, by any method known, conquer and/or convert — any occupant who’s not already a Christian, to Christianity, and this is the will of the Christian God. Google, then read, the “Doctrine of Discovery” and read it for yourself— then read, and re-read, Manifest Destiny, which every public school student learns from the get go.

    2. Rev. Michelle Love's Avatar Rev. Michelle Love

      I would like to argue that The Jefferson Bible was anything but patriotic. All Thomas Jefferson did was create a Cliff's Notes version of the King James version of the Holy Bible by taking excerpts from the text that he thought related his views on religion. In the process, he created a 98 page book that essentially removed any references of what made Jesus remarkable. And seeing that he owned over 600 slaves, that seems to make him a bit of a tyrant himself.

  1. James Mounts's Avatar James Mounts

    Is "The Ten Commandments" displayed in schools in India?

  1. Lady Mutt Cat's Avatar Lady Mutt Cat

    Absolutely! And I hope that Witches are demanding The Charge of the Goddess be put on those same walls.

    1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

      The Charge of the Goddess is not part of our Western heritage and, therefore, does not belong on the classroom walls.

      1. Ari Joseph Bertine's Avatar Ari Joseph Bertine

        Starhawk's "The Spiral Dance", for which she wrote the base The Charge Of The Goddess recognized as a cornerstone of modern Wicca, revolutionized the religious landscape for American Neopagans three generations ago. It established the link between feminism and witchcraft, which has been studied, celebrated and integrated into common American culture. It has spawned family traditions, college courses, countless pagan churches, and been integrated into pop culture. It qualifies as part of our Western heritage, by definition and spirit.

        1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

          Ari, I read Starhawk's book back in my 20's, but that doesn't make it part of our Western heritage. And, yes, many, if not all, of the earliest practitioners of Wicca were feminists. But that is not enough to give the Charge of the Goddess equal classroom space with a code of law written somewhere where between 2,500 and 3,500 years ago. The Charge of the Goddess didn't form an important part of the beliefs of three major religious faiths that literally changed the course of world history. There is no comparison.

  1. Samuel R. Williams's Avatar Samuel R. Williams

    The "10 commandments" are the basis for civil law in civilized countries. Students should be aware of them.

  1. taycomama's Avatar taycomama

    Perhaps a compromise is in order. All religions seem to agree on stealing, murder, and false witness, and adultery depending how you define it. So just post those four. The remainder - Sabath, graven images, other gods etc. are strictly religious and therefore unconstitutional.

  1. Daniel Ginther's Avatar Daniel Ginther

    We’re a Christian nation, Hindus can suck it

    1. Michael Lakota's Avatar Michael Lakota

      (ahem) The first sentence in the first amendment to the constitution of the united states of america is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" Plain english, easy to understand.

  1. Todd Leslie Miller's Avatar Todd Leslie Miller

    What we are looking at is Christians who want to make our country more like Iran. Right now, American Christianity sees itself as being under attack from secularists who want to destroy and get rid of it. You had something similar in Iran in the seventies where the Shah tried to destroy Shia Islam in that country because he wanted to ‘westernize’ his country. The result was the Revolution of 1979, the hostage crisis and the Islamic Republic of Iran which has been far more repressive than anything the Shah could have dreamed of. Far right Christians believe that this is the path to take to ensure that nobody takes their faith away from them.

  1. Philenda L. Daniel's Avatar Philenda L. Daniel

    Can Other Faiths Join? Asking this question alone… just goes to show me… how much bigotry exists in our society. Forget all the other religions outside of the Christian sects. Which version of the Bible will be installed in the school system? Which Christian point of view?

    Bibles I found: 1599 Geneva Bible American Standard Bible. Amplified Bible Berean Standard Bible Christian standard Bible Contemporary English Version Codex Sinaiticus Concordia Self Study Bible Darby Bible translation. The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible Douay-Rheims Bible English revised version. The Ethiopian Bible God's Word® Translation. Good News Translation. Greek Modern Bible Holman, Christian Standard Bible International Standard Version The Jehovah's Witnesses' Bible JPS Tanakah 1917 King James Bible King James Bible purple letter edition. Nag Hammadi Scriptures NET Bible New American Standard Bible New Heart English Bible. New International Bible Version New Living Translation Orthodox Jewish Bible Aramaic Holy Bible aka Peshitta Holy Bible NASB, The Charles F. Stanley Life Principles Bible NASB Zondervan Study Bible New Believer's Bible Spiritual Warfare Bible The New Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible The Holy Psalmody by Coptic Orthodox Church Bohairic Coptic New Testament Sahidic Coptic New Testament The Scriptures (ISR 1998) Webster Bible Translation. World English Bible Wycliffe’s Bible. Young's Literal Translation and I’m sure there are many lesser-known Bibles.

    Let's just wring the wash out on this… among the Christian sects for a minute. There is bigotry amongst Christians just in the Christian denomination alone. What Interpretation is the correct one? …The One and the Only singular point of view for many Is the King James Bible… If you're in a Christian sect that is more Metaphysical than Evangelical, you are then deemed Satan Incarnate if, they are a judgmental bunch. In my mind posting the Ten Commandments is passive aggressive, judgmental, just based on what is stated in book, chapter, and verse of Luke 6:37: “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive and you will be forgiven.” And… insecurely bigoted based on my definition of bigotry: A defiant intolerance for any system of thought, belief, or opinion other than one's own system of thought belief or opinion. .The Master teacher I most respect is Jesus who is individualized out of ‘God’ yet not the whole of ‘God.’ Jesus equals a singular piece of the whole of ‘God’ and is not ALL of that which is ‘God.’ That would be like saying a single piece of the whole pie is all of the pie… that is not so. ‘God’ is greater than not less than. I would have to go with the Gnostic Christians point of perspective… when it comes down to it at this point, perhaps because I am enveloped in the Nag Hammadi Scriptures… which were hidden from other Christian sects to possibly avoid destruction of the texts by the one’s trying to obtain political power and earthly rewards like the ability to manipulate the Kings decisions/ policies of the time. With that said. Will the state take my children because I agree with a first century Gnostic Christians interpretation of Holy Events? Will I be run out of the school system as a Gnostic Christian, as a Coptic Christian, as a Jehovah Witness Christian, or for that matter Zoroastrian Christian … or whatever type of Christian that is not the same type of Christian as deemed appropriate and singularly correct by the Louisiana State Legislature… or any legislature in the USA? Latter Day Saints, to use the proper terminology, are Christians… Scientology is not compatible with Christianity. Just considering… the multifaceted jewel called Christianity... can incite bigotry and racism. Will I be shunned, banished if I said I was multi-denominational, that I deeply respect the Mastery of Jesus, his patience, and his death-defying commitment to The Word? Can I…Can I still freely and without obligation to the school system and legislative branch … believe and understand that The Light is greater than Jesus alone? Can I teach and believe the Word…The Light is so great that the whole of ‘God’ can administer to the children as they can accept ‘God’ through their appearance and culture… Yes, I can. Will I be allowed to freely believe to this line of interpretation and thought or will I be cast down and reeducated into the singularly appropriate Christian, they mandate me to be? So, there’s that to consider.

  1. Rev. Mojo's Avatar Rev. Mojo

    I thought Church and State were separate. If it is a public school ALL religions have to be presented to be an "equal" advantage/environment so on. All religions main book should be allowed at least in the school libraries!! Rev. Leilani Abbey Mojarro

  1. Kenneth Kling's Avatar Kenneth Kling

    We're talking about placing the 10 Commandments in a prominent place within the school. I recommend somewhere within the library, along with availability to information pertaining to each of the dominant Religions. Now let us sit back and watch the pissing match over which practices should be included. Since we appear to not be able to have peaceful discourse over most any topic, it seems to me why having any of these practices represented within the confines of a public school is warranted.

  1. Johnny Mac 's Avatar Johnny Mac

    Because GOD did not approve of anything Hindu unless they converted. The US was founded on Christian principals. Thusly, we should honor our SAVIOR, LORD CHRIST JESUS, and HIS FATHER. Amen

    1. Zekester's Avatar Zekester

      I feel ALL mythology should be taught to some extent in schools. Wether Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Celtic, Hindu, Buddhist, Wiccan or Judeo-Christian. It's all just mythology. Very important to see the growth and ideals of humanity throughout history. And they all have some bearing on society today. Why not?

      1. Rev. Michelle Love's Avatar Rev. Michelle Love

        I agree that all mythology should be taught at some extent in schools as long as the subject content is appropriate for students. I believe the reason why so many people who have actually read the Bible are opposed to having it taught in classrooms is because it touches on subjects such as murder, adultery and prostitution. And while these topics may have bearing in society today, there are some subjects that should be taught by educators and others by parents or guardians.

    2. Rev Deborah Dunkle (Raven Wolf Song)'s Avatar Rev Deborah Dunkle (Raven Wolf Song)

      Our country most definitely was Not founded upon any one religion. The point of our founding fathers was Not to have one representing religion. They were escaping the tyranny of a religion being forced upon them. Read your history people. Not dogma or the slanted stuff your being fed but the history of colonization and the founding of our republic. It’s even in the constitution the separation of church and state. Gee where did you get this idea we were founded upon Christianity?

      1. Rev. Rory's Avatar Rev. Rory

        "If the founders had not made their stance on this “Christian nation” issue clear enough in the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, they certainly did in the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli.

        Begun by George Washington, signed by John Adams and ratified unanimously by a Senate still half-filled with signers of the Constitution, this treaty announced firmly and flatly to the world that “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

        Despite the founders’ intent, later generations of Americans began to assert that the country they created was indeed Christian.

        https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/02/living/america-christian-nation/index.html

        1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          Sorry but if you read all the founders papers you will find that ALL of them except for 2 were christian, and the laws were based on the Christian religion just like the ones in England were.

          Nice try but its better that you know what you are talking about instead of using CNN as a source.

          1. Michael Hunt's Avatar Michael Hunt

            CNN is a better source than no sources, Daniel. Funny how you never provide any.

            Just because Christians founded America, doesn't mean that they intended for it to be a Christian nation. In fact, they explicitly state a number of times that we are not a Christian nation.

            1. Rev. Michelle Love's Avatar Rev. Michelle Love

              I would like to argue that America was not founded by Christians. Instead, I believe the majority of the Founding Fathers were Christians and that any pagan/atheist members were outnumbered when drafting the Constitution.

          2. Robert James Ruhnke's Avatar Robert James Ruhnke

            Many of them were deists who gave lip service to Christianity. The only thing you need to apologize for is telling the same lies over and over, Grey. The laws had many bases of origins, not just the one. The founders wanted a country based on the enlightenment era attitudes and ideas not just the dogma you’re pushing. One of these days you’ll realize you’re pushing 60’s era propaganda.

          3. Bridget Kielas-Fecyk's Avatar Bridget Kielas-Fecyk

            Nice try Daniel Gray, but no. The USA is a Secular nation, and no the Founding Fathers were not Christian. They were protestants and deists. There were a few catholics among them as well, but it was in no way a "Christian Nation", nor founded that way. IF it was going to be founded on any religion, it would've been founded on Protestantism as the vast majority were that or deists.

            And yeah, you can look that up.

          4. Tracy Anne Boudreau's Avatar Tracy Anne Boudreau

            Not to be rude, but your pretty funny. You have such a creative way of seeing history, lol.

    3. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

      your gOd doesn't need to approve anyone else's god. that's exactly the parochialism that so many of you kkkristofascists abide by: the only true view is your own which, as we all know, is completely wrong.

      the u.s. was 'guided' by kkkristofascist principals, but also by british common law. we are neither a british nation nor a kkkris chin one.

      the u.s. was also founded by almost exclusively white men, are you saying the u.s. should be a white nation only?

    4. Tecla Caryl Loup's Avatar Tecla Caryl Loup

      How do you know that God didn't approve of Hindu or other principles? Did He/She tell you that (the false gods canard)? Are you saying (without explicitly so stating) that

      I believe that comparative religion is possibly a worthwhile study, I just can't swallow the concept of "my religion is the Only True One and all others are Not". Especially when at core they pretty much hold similar beliefs. And I see so many who profess Christianity who do not follow Jesus' primary concept, which appears to be to love one another. In my opinion, it's shameful to run around condemning others who might hold similar but not strictly identical beliefs. So maybe people should lighten up and learn to tolerate what, in the larger scheme of things, amount to small differences.

    5. Donald J Rothschild Jr's Avatar Donald J Rothschild Jr

      Amazing how people are brainwashed. “America is a Christian Nation”. Think again.

      Here is what some of the Founding Fathers had to say:

      Thomas Jefferson: “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”

      James Madison: “Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together”.

      John Adams: “The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion “.

      People fled Europe because of religious intolerance. Why would you think they would com3 here just to replicate what they fled.

      1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        Although all the founders did not want a theocracy or a state religion as in England, virtually all had an expectation that the nation would be primarily Christian, because most of the founders themselves were Christian, and most of the citizens were, as well. A vast majority, in fact.Nov 1, 2020

        In the People v. Ruggles (1811), the Court declared that “the people this state, in common with the people of this country, profess the general doctrines of Christianity,” and that “the morality of the country is deeply en grafted upon Christianity.”

        In terms of their religious views, the Founding Fathers were a relatively diverse group of men. Some were Christians; 2 were deists. Nevertheless, as a whole, they were heavily influenced by Christian thought.

        Sorry but your cherry picking does not benefit you nor anyone who believes your nonsense.

        1. April Camille Berg's Avatar April Camille Berg

          Many of our founding fathers were also Freemasons.

        2. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

          No sir, they were Deists. Look it up.

          1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

            No, Amber, some were deists, most were Christians. Look it up. Start with the Great Awakenings. Next a good theological textbook will prove most helpful. Finally, reading some good biographies from offer great insight too.

            1. Bridget Kielas-Fecyk's Avatar Bridget Kielas-Fecyk

              Actually, look it up. The majority of the founding fathers were deists with others being protestant. Very few were Christians. Hence why the USA is a Secular nation, not a christian one. And as for "Look it up" This took less than 3 seconds to google.

              https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-founding-fathers-religious-wisdom/#:~:text=Many%20of%20the%20founding%20fathers,solving%20social%20and%20political%20problems.

              1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

                Bridget, once again your comment shows a lack of understanding. Protestants are Christians. However, to check my understanding of our early nation, I asked Google AI. Here is it's response, "Yes, most European Americans at the time of the United States' independence in 1776 identified as Christian, with about 98% being Protestant and 1.9% Roman Catholic. The original 13 colonies were governed by Christian states with established churches, but they also allowed for different relationships between church and state. For example, some colonies had a weak establishment that affirmed Christian faith without a preferred denomination. The Great Awakening in the 1730s and 1740s also strengthened the colonists' commitment to their faith." Once again, my statements were correct. The source you cited is "The Center for American Progress (CAP) is a public policy research and advocacy organization which presents a liberal viewpoint on economic and social issues." per Google AI. Your sources are skewed and present a narrative it wants to be true, not what actually was true. This error occurs because such journalists focus only on a couple of the early "fathers" instead of the peoples as a whole giving a distorted understanding. These men created documents that all Christian citizens could accept and thus, as the peoples' REPRESENTATIVES, not their masters, our nation's inception was as a Christian people.

            2. Robert James Ruhnke's Avatar Robert James Ruhnke

              Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin viewed Jesus as a great teacher but not as God

              https://apnews.com/article/american-founders-christian-nation-conservative-beliefs-4ea388e8d80c54016a6a4460cbef9b82#

              The experts disagree with your assessment. They have been influenced the way everyone was influenced by it, but they also foresaw the dangers of Christian theocracy and what your lot bring to it. Those dangers are repeating once more. Your definition of good biography is nothing but rose lensed hypocrisy and propaganda.

              1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

                The personal beliefs of a couple of men isn't reflective of the beliefs of the peoples who were 98% Protestant and 1.9% Catholic. Those are the peoples who constituted the new United States of America, not the personal beliefs of a couple of slave holders.

              2. Robert James Ruhnke's Avatar Robert James Ruhnke

                Not exactly Kester, there were many who weren’t as fanatical or zealous who chose more forward views of the enlightenment era of the time which drew from both spiritual and secular in nature. Im not saying Christian principles weren’t part of the founding, I’m saying you’re over exaggerating their importance. They weren’t the Christian nationalists youre trying to make them out to be. Conservatives are constantly projecting an idealized version of the past that never existed onto their politics.

              3. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

                James, you wrote, "Im not saying Christian principles weren’t part of the founding ...." On this we agree. I think you are also correct that the elites of the time, who were followers of the enlightenment ideas, held that religion (by which they meant Christianity) should be based on reason and philosophy which lead them to a faith based in "natural religion" which was most assuredly not fundamentalist. The population, however, did not hold to such elitist views. They were Puritans, Quakers, Anglicans, Methodists, Congregationalists, Catholics, Presbyterians, Baptists, and Lutheran's. I believe it was John Adams and James Madison who didn't want a democracy because they believed the uneducated masses were too ignorant for it. These "uneducated" citizens did hold sincere Christian beliefs which they believed were divinely revealed in the Bible and their church and did not hold to the views of the elites. Since this group of the 'great unwashed' were the vast majority of our newly formed nation's citizens, our nation was a nation of Christians and as you said it reflected those Christian beliefs in its founding via our documents and laws. I don't know what you think are the beliefs of Christian nationalists, but that's a discussion for another time. Btw, I found a website for the Project 2025 agenda and will read it. Thanks for the tip.

    6. CB Cuff's Avatar CB Cuff

      Comments like that remind people why the fabric of American society is being torn apart. Maybe you could socialize a bit more....?

    7. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      Until you can demonstrably prove your god is real, it remains pure myth, but thank you for your comment. 🤗

      🦁❤️

      1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        And until you can prove that God isnt real then your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          I know what you mean, Sir Daniel. I’ve tried proving Fairies, Elves, Gnomes, Vishnu, Thor, Sasquatch, and even the Loch Ness monster are not real but it’s hard to prove things don’t exist isn’t it? I bet you believe in all those as well, right?

          Just as a heads-up, we think Leprechauns aren’t real, but you are more than welcome to believe in that as well.

          Thank you for telling us what you like to believe. You’re not on your own though. People throughout the world believe in their gods as well using the same illogical reasoning.

          🦁❤️

          1. Rev. Mike Eggleston's Avatar Rev. Mike Eggleston

            Thor must be real. We have evidence of Him every time we hear thunder.

        2. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

          Dude... seriously. Every single thing points to not. You are free to believe what you wish but you have no right to tell anyone else how to believe. Belief isn't fact. Until you understand that there is no discussion with you.

          1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

            And your belief isn't fact either. But rather than say there is no reason for discussion, the opposite is true. This is exactly why discussions should be held.

    8. Robin Anne Hannon's Avatar Robin Anne Hannon

      Johnny Mac read your history. This country was not founded on "Christian principles." The Pilgrims who came over wanted to escape the tyranny of the King that was tied to the Church. Both were corrupt and power-hungry. The bedrock of American history was the separation of church and state. This was to assure liberty of religious beliefs and practices and ensure that the USA would not be run by tyrants, kings, or any religious body. What schools tack on their walls is far less the issue than a form of Christianity that is not Christian in the least and has gained a hold and wants to bring everyone under their thumb. This is just the beginning of yet another round of religious overreach in the name of "Christianity."

    9. Rev. Rory's Avatar Rev. Rory

      Brahman, who is the foundation of all existence approved, according to Hindus! No, I am not Hindu.

      You are welcome to honor your God in your church and in your religious schools as should other people that have beliefs have the same opportunity. The country was not founded on a specific religion and those that are convinced otherwise have been sold a false narrative driven by a political agenda that goes back for decades. So honor away! Good for you! Leave our kids alone as we wish for them to follow a different belief (and it includes a lot more empathy and understanding.)

      1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        wrong as usual People v. Ruggles (1811), the Court declared that “the people this state, in common with the people of this country, profess the general doctrines of Christianity,” and that “the morality of the country is deeply en grafted upon Christianity.”

        1. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

          Ok, and I see it is a blasphemy case based in freedom of speech. As in Ruggles was free to express his opinion. Upon appeal it became a freedom of speech issue. The whole purpose was to tear down the blasphemy cases. You might want to dig a little deeper before bringing the law cases into this. The fact of the matter is that the founding fathers did not support religion in government for the simple reason of "Which religion". What you are missing is the humanitarian aspects that many different religions overlap with, some not even related to the Abrahamic faiths.

          1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

            That is not true, Amber, as I've pointed out before, Federalist Paper No. 2 specifically states that peoples of all of the states shared the common faith of Christianity.

    10. Keith Graham Ainsworth's Avatar Keith Graham Ainsworth

      How do you know that god did not approve of anything hindu?

    11. Ahmed Abduljabar Al-Hujazi's Avatar Ahmed Abduljabar Al-Hujazi

      Try reading Thomas Jefferson's "Letters on Toleration". See what the drafter of our constitution said about religion and the state. Also, keep in mind that in the 17th century a large portion of the slave population in the US (approximately 20%) were Muslim, and had an impact on Jefferson, regarding his thoughts on religion. He even owned a Quran. So, given all that, maybe we should include Quran in the classrooms as well, since it's a historical document influencing how the USA was established.

    12. JaZe's Avatar JaZe

      People came here often running from religious persecution. Are persecutions starting all over again? Perhaps they never went away.

  1. Edward D Torres's Avatar Edward D Torres

    Creationism, the God Hypothesis, Intelligent Design have a higher scientific probability over Evolution. Atheism no God of Creation is a Religion. Secular Humanism is Religion no need for God for one Moment of Silence. History is divided by birth of Jesus in History Books. Every State in the Union recognizes a God of Creation in their Preambles to their Constitutions. American Settlements built Christian Churches to establish their Communities and send Representatives from the Church Leadership that wrote the US Constitution and State Constitution. God Bless America the people of the Bible spreading the Truth of God.

    1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

      please prove your statement "Creationism, the God Hypothesis, Intelligent Design have a higher scientific probability over Evolution." otherwise it's just silly nonsense (and I suspect you have no clue what you even mean by 'probability'.

      p.s. I wonder how many days this comment will take before it gets approved

      1. ServantOfJudgement's Avatar ServantOfJudgement

        Edward's use of the word probability is probably this:

        The explosion we call the big bang and the resulting perfect cosmos along with flawless self replicating life leading to a super creature from mud that called himself mankind in is akin to saying the entire Encyclopedia Britannica resulted from a printing press explosion. Probably not how we got the encyclopedia and probably not how we got here. Probably both were assembled by design.

        Your posts won't get blocked if your nicer when you insult. You're not getting censored because of your philosophy, it's most likely your vernacular. Weekend posts can take a loooong time to approve.

        1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

          I find it odd that some people feel compelled to speak for others. danny has his wits, I'll wait and see if he responds as opposed to the self-appointed such as yourself.

          1. Daniel Todd Kamm's Avatar Daniel Todd Kamm

            I do have my wits, thank you, and as a social scientist with a penchant for psychology, history and archaeology, I have an appreciation for finding answers to many questions.

            It's interesting how we all read things through our own lenses.

            That said, I would like to recommend an interview I overheard today on NPR on a series of socially based studies that were conducted to try to understand why people believe in conspiracy theories and worse, outright misinformation.

            What was interesting to the study coordinators and the point they had to re-test multiple (I think 6 times) to verify their findings as closely as possible, was that individuals who sought to independently verify information on their own were more likely to access inferior websites, wrong information, and then accepting that information instead of looking at the sources of the information, verifying the legitimacy of the agent distributing the information, etc.

            I am all for independent inquiry, but then that is why they call it independent inquiry.

            But if this result holds true, it would be best if we all test the waters of whatever it is to we hold to be true before we immerse ourselves in it and wind up like the people caught up in a flood who prayed to G-d to save them and after potential rescuers passed, drowned, and then were angry at G-d... who of course said... "I sent ....

            Blind faith and faulty inquiry is the true path to the blind leading the blind...straight to the hell some people believe in... I'm Jewish... we have no hell... so those who believe something else can chew on that one too.

            And as for the references to leeches... these are still being used and explored scientifically... as are maggots and lots of other gross things... including psychodelics... madam...do some homework... but make sure you verify your sources!

            Peace Out, Reb tk

            Thank you Rev Dr. Father JJ for your comments.

            1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

              Daniel, you wrote, "individuals who sought to independently verify information on their own were more likely to access inferior websites". So, you think people should turn to the professionals like social scientists to give them the truth because the man in the street just can't seem to get it right on their own? Since your source for this insight was NPR, a left-wing and very woke source, perhaps the advice you gave is not very good as you seem to put too much blind faith in a poor source for accurate and truthful information.

    2. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

      The Bible has nothing to do with any of that. it is a book published by the corrupt church in power at the time to forward it's own agenda to control and manipulate the people. they picked and chose what they wanted to include and edited that even further until it all fit their plans.
      That book should be considered separate from any sense of true faith and spirituality. And the fact that people have allowed it to influence so much throughout history just means they bought into the Catholic convert or be tortured and killed line too. Read some real history on the inquisitions and atrocities committed by the church. The history of the Vatican is some interesting reading too.

      1. Thomas P. Davis's Avatar Thomas P. Davis

        From what I understand, King James solved the problem of churches competing against each other to butter him up, by placing them all together to write a book that they all had to agree on. Thus, preventing one group from instilling their personal beliefs in their version.

        1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

          If he would have done that then all texts would have been included without editing and the book made available to all by educating the mass population s to read instead of picking and choosing according to their own agendas then giving the church total control forcing the people to think they needed the churches approval for every single thing. The church has always had its own agendas based on greed and power. That is why priests can not be married now. In the middle ages or so priests married and had families. Then the money counters decided married priests used more funds and their children created inheritance issues with properties the church wanted to keep for themselves. History about the church and bible is not pretty.

  1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

    why not? The ten commandments have been questioned as one of the many discrepancies in the bible. It is much more likely that Moses saw his people misbehaving and wrote the stones himself. several of the supposed commandments are very similar to Egyptian counterparts and Moses was raised Egyptian so would have known them to use as reference. God would never say He wanted his children to fear Him. He loves unconditionally. That alone is a red flag that they were not transcribed or written by God. But a pissed Moses hoping to scare the people to his version of straight might have said exactly that. So if that fiction is supposed to be mandatory then they should include all literature from all faiths and let the people choose what they want to keep or lose in their personal beliefs

  1. Jimmy Moon's Avatar Jimmy Moon

    This is America, not India. KJV HOLY BIBLE only. ALL others are false gods with a little g.

    1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

      according to you, but to over a billion indians there GODs are real. why do get to decided who's religion is acceptable and whose isn't?

      1. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

        Neither was Christianity originally but, hey... here we go.

    2. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

      there is no hate like Christian hate!

      1. Rev. Mike Eggleston's Avatar Rev. Mike Eggleston

        There is no hate like Christian "love".

        1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

          A christian with a good spiritual heart that follows in God's true wish for us to love each other without regard for religion or race could show genuine love. Most fundamentals and Conservatives have ruined the word from the meaning that may have once been intended. The word is all to often associated with hate, judgment and violence to anyone who does not think exactly as they do.

    3. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      Is there a real God then, and if so, can you demonstrably prove your claim?

      🦁❤️

      1. Richard Faust's Avatar Richard Faust

        The answer will come in death, so roll the dice or flip the coin. I know where my resting place will be. Praying you find Him

    4. Lady Mutt Cat's Avatar Lady Mutt Cat

      And your nasty desert warrior god is the only real one? IF that's true, I'd rather be an atheist.

  1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

    Bagavad Gita is not part of our Western heritage. It doesn't get equal billing as an historical document. But by all means it should be in school libraries.

  1. Rev Morse's Avatar Rev Morse

    This is the USA, not India. Most Americans have never heard of what they want to put up, but they have the ten commandments.

  1. Richard Faust's Avatar Richard Faust

    Can I go to India and have the Bible put in all areas where their Holy Book is? What about the Muslim world or the Buddhist's or any other predominate religion in some other country. One nation Under God/ In God We Trust / etc.

    1. William Lewis Vass's Avatar William Lewis Vass

      That one nation under god didn't exist until the 20th century as well as the in god we trust. This nation and it's founding fathers wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights without religious bias. We all have the freedom to follow our own beliefs without christians constantly trying to force their doctrine down our throats.

  1. Richard Faust's Avatar Richard Faust

    Disappointment is inevitable, Misery is optional

    We all have disappointments in life. We get disappointed with ourselves, disappointed with other people, disappointed in what life is throwing at us. But, we can overcome these feelings of disappointment. But, only if we let Christ into our daily lives, leaning on His guiding and trusting His plans for our life.

    While we can't all avoid disappointment, we can effectively deal with it. Jesus even tells us in John 16:33 that 'in this world you will have trouble.' So, even though we find it hard to deal with disappointments, we are told in the Bible to trust God in His promises to us. The hardest part is, trusting Him when His plans don't make sense to us.

    The alternative is to be miserable and to give into worry and depression.

    When we can recognize God's goodness, even in our disappointment, we begin to really know God. It all comes down to a choice. Trust God or worry and be in misery.

    Psalm 34:18; The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such as have a contrite spirit. We often wish we could escape troubles – the pain of grief, loss, sorrow, or even the small daily frustrations that constantly wear us down. God promises to be our source of power, courage, and wisdom, helping us through our problems. Sometimes he chooses to deliver us from those problems. When trouble strikes, don’t get frustrated with God. Instead, admit that you need Gods help and thank him for being by your side. John 16:33; These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” Jesus summed up all he had told his disciples this night, tying together themes from (John, 14:27-29; 16:1-4, and 16:9-11). With these words he told his disciples to take courage. In spite of the inevitable struggles they would face, they would not be alone. Jesus does not abandon us to our struggles either. If we remember that the ultimate victory has already been won, we can claim the peace of Christ in the most troublesome of times.

    When Disappointment comes: Don't let misery take over.

  1. Bernie James Rocheleau's Avatar Bernie James Rocheleau

    I'm a high school social studies teacher and here's the main problem with this law.., the mandate. Our principle historical documents, the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and others are not "required" to be posted in classrooms. By making it mandatory, they have taken an "historical" (their word, not mine) document and definitely made it religious nationalism.

  1. William Lewis Vass's Avatar William Lewis Vass

    I find this whole thing ridiculous. The ten commandments is a historical document for the US? That's just a load of crap. It holds no historical value for the US. Stop trying to push this country backwards. This is a time to be moving forward, to becoming more enlightened. The ten commandments is of historical value for the Jewish people. I say if the christians get what they want then every religion should be able to put up their own "historical" documents. Hence why there is religious freedom in the US. If you go back in time you will find the original pledge of allegiance had no reference to god and our monetary system didn't have in god we trust printed on coins and bills. Stop trying to make christianity a national religion or we will end up just like the countries that have national religion. If you want a tyrannical leader who strips away your rights then I suggest you move to north korea.

    1. Marion Elizabeth Kafka's Avatar Marion Elizabeth Kafka

      The Bible is never outdated. Within its pages there are all the answers you could ever want. One just needs to look. And, I agree that all religions or lack of should be equally respected. I read a quote once, if I have lived my life for God then I will be welcomed into my father’s house. If what I have believed turns out to be untrue, then it is only my life that has been wasted. I hurt no other with my beliefs and don’t believe in pushing it on to others. If all cannot be accepted/respected then there should not be any in school. I would like to see it in schools but others beliefs cannot be ignored. Change comes from within not without.

  1. Marion Elizabeth Kafka's Avatar Marion Elizabeth Kafka

    I don’t remember Jesus saying that in that way. I could be wrong. What draws people to Christianity is observing people that live their lives for Christ. Who knows whose eyes would be opened, hearts stirred. We need to make every opportunity count. And satan, well he will always be there no matter from where it comes. That is way prayer is so important. It is the most powerful weapon. I understand your fears, but fear can cripple us. Jesus wants us to live with joy not fear. Satan can bind a person with fear, but faith and walking with God will set that person free.

  1. Peter Couldwell's Avatar Peter Couldwell

    Islam is a ideology not a religion also Allah is well known as being a paedophile 😡💯

    Therefore, this should be refused 🤔💯

    1. Nonnye Lynn Lucky's Avatar Nonnye Lynn Lucky

      Are you being facicious? Islam is a religion AND Allah is the name of the same god as the Jews and christians's God.

  1. Walter J. Holbrook's Avatar Walter J. Holbrook

    Remember, this is not for religious purposes. Is that not what the bill was passed for. The one true faith is Christianity. Now here come the "salt" this is why the founding fathers felt a need for separation of church and state. Pandora's Box is open to all sorts of religious faiths that will fight to be represented in schools. Remember that constitutional law of freedom of speech and also to practice religious freedom. .

  1. Walter J. Holbrook's Avatar Walter J. Holbrook

    Remember, this is not for religious purposes. Is that not what the bill was passed for. The one true faith is Christianity. Now here come the "salt" this is why the founding fathers felt a need for separation of church and state. Pandora's Box is open to all sorts of religious faiths that will fight to be represented in schools. Remember that constitutional law of freedom of speech and also to practice religious freedom. .

  1. Nonnye Lynn Lucky's Avatar Nonnye Lynn Lucky

    The problem with many "Christians" is they are not. They mostly want to be What they think are Jews. They have no idea what the new testement says and couldn't care less. Not one person/bot on here who claims to want the 10 commandants up in schools have a clue about the 10 commandants. It they did they would hide themselves and hope never to be noticed. Recommendation be ye person or bot - go read the Bible and pay a little more attention to the new testement. For that matter - if you want to promote the old testement - read it first. Especially the the person/bot on here who claims Allah was a pediophile. You might be a bit surprised at how the god of the Isrealites threated children. Soiler alert - murdering and en slaving them was not only ok but commanded by him.

  1. Bishop William Dusenberry, DD's Avatar Bishop William Dusenberry, DD

    In the Christian Heaven the Ten Commandments are all the laws which are required to be followed; and because Heaven is a kingdom with the Christian God as the eternal king, there’s no democracy — which accounts for why GOP Tory wannabe’s want to be ruled by a dictatorial DJT —because Heaven ain’t free — it’s ruled by a dictator who relies only on a Holy Ghost to enforce the Ten Commandments he gave to Moses, merely 2199 years ago.

  1. Murray Nick Jones's Avatar Murray Nick Jones

    I think any faith, who wishes to, should be allowed (or even compelled to) place the tenets of their faith in Louisiana's classrooms. When I say "any faith" I mean "any." Pastafarianism, Church of Satan (whose tenets are akin, yet superior, to Judeo/Christian Big 10), TOPY, Universal People, etc., et. al. Fair is fair, right? Besides, Christians should realize that since Christ became the new High Priest, he was obliged to present NEW LAW (Matthew 22:36-40). He did so with his two commandments, which superseded the 10 commandments, which in turn, were an aggregate of the 619 +/-previous laws. Therefore, as Jesus said, he didn't come to change the law, but to fulfill it. That means that his life and death completed the contract of the old law (which includes the 10 commandments) and that being the new high priest, he brought new laws, only two of them. James 2:10 states: "If you live by the [old] law and break one of the [old] laws, you are guilty of breaking all of the [old] laws. Tough act to follow, huh? So these self-righteous and pious law makers trying to "stick it to the man" by forcing archaic and irrelevant old laws are simply "crashing cymbals." They are pontificating and using this legislature to distract from their abysmal education ratings, rampant poverty, poor healthcare, and other sins against their constituents. It's all smoke and mirrors so they can say, "Hey, we did something," when they really did nothing at all, worthwhile.

  1. Michael Lakota's Avatar Michael Lakota

    Instead, how about a required course in Comparative Religion and Philosophy? HOW to think, not WHAT think!!!

  1. April Camille Berg's Avatar April Camille Berg

    Ok…um… Christianity came from Judaism. Judaism came from Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrianism came from Vedic Hinduism. Can someone correct me if I’m wrong?

    1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

      April, I was suspicious of your link between Judaism and Zoroastrianism because I've read about both in my past readings and there are significant differences. Though I do think that some of the earliest Hebrews brought various religious beliefs with them as they coalesced into a more homogeneous people. So, I asked Google AI to check my understanding and this is what it said, "While some scholars claim that Judaism borrowed from Zoroastrianism, it's difficult to document this influence, especially in the early stages of Judaism. The evidence is circumstantial and doesn't always hold up to scholarly scrutiny. However, it's likely that Zoroastrianism influenced the development of Judaism and Christianity."

      1. April Camille Berg's Avatar April Camille Berg

        I thought so Russel. I too remember reading about a link. It seems like the natural progression of the history of religion, along with movement of people. It’s always been fascinating to me how ideas are woven throughout different religions and cultures. 🙂

        1. Russel A. Kester's Avatar Russel A. Kester

          Indeed! Great conversation. Thank you.

  1. Bridget Kielas-Fecyk's Avatar Bridget Kielas-Fecyk

    The United States of America is NOT a Christian Nation. Both the 1st Amendment, and the Treaty of Tripoli, make that clear. Also, the USA is not mentioned anywhere in ANY bible - except the TRUMP bible which is just evil.

    The founding fathers did not found the USA to be Christian either.

    If there is to be the CHRISITAN bible in classrooms, then they MUST, or be proven to be illegally biased, also put the koran, the torah, the Witch's Bible, the Satanic Bible, the Guru Granth Sahib - which is the bible of the Sheik religions, etc. also all in the classrooms as well.

  1. Rev. Michelle Love's Avatar Rev. Michelle Love

    I believe that posting the Ten Commandments in classrooms can be problematic for several reasons. While I concede that someone may want the Sixth Commandment to be posted as a deterrent for school violence, I can see how posting the Fourth and the Fifth Commandments can backfire on the school. If a child decides to take keeping the Sabbath day holy to heart, I can see a lot of grades dropping because a whole day has been taken away from their schedule to do homework and study for exams. If one is mandated to honor one's mother and father, a child may not feel comfortable reporting abuse or neglect in the home and may suffer in silence for years. In addition, adultery is not a subject that should be a topic of discussion in the classroom unless you are in English class talking about the book The Great Gatsby. On top of it all, the opening line of "I am the Lord they God. No other Gods come before me" is asserting that the teacher should be the child's main source of guidance and not their own parents.

  1. Thomas Christopher Medina's Avatar Thomas Christopher Medina

    This is an end run to try and use religion to restore morality in our society. It won't work. Individuals influence society, and in turn society influences individuals. It's now become too much, too little, too late, and now the chaos will run it's course. Anyway, in response to this article. Instead of covertly (deceitfully, lying, thou shalt not lie), (get my drift) trying to force feed religion in the classroom, why not lead by example in our personal lives. Unless, of course, you don't even realize how short you fall of your own ideals. Part of the reason for this societal dilemma is that many of the individuals who support this cause are themselves contributors to the problem, and can't even see their part in it. Our society didn't become what it has overnight, it's been a long time coming. Give a moral inch, and you'll end up giving a moral mile.

    If Christianity receives recognition in the classroom, then why not do the same for other religions? If morality is the goal, then isn't any kind of a moral compass better than no moral compass at all? Why not let people choose whatever path works for them? If you want to influence and make an impact on society, then lead by example and practice what you preach at home. This way your children won't need to discover or receive their moral learning, (or lack there of), from an institution.

  1. Ari Joseph Bertine's Avatar Ari Joseph Bertine

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Government is not allowed to make any laws respecting a particular religion, therefore the law that Louisiana has made cannot respect only Christianity and must allow other religions to include their materials in classrooms as well. That goes for Hindus, Muslims, Neo-pagans, Zoroastrians, Satanists and any other religion out there. ALL written religions texts in America are historically relevant because all of them are a part of American culture.

  1. Julie Armstrong's Avatar Julie Armstrong

    What we need is more religion. Yes in classrooms. Say the Pledge to our FLAG. If other religions want to include their Bibles/the Vedas/Torah etc This will give children a chance to make their own belief and turn To GOD. They will realize there are only 2 sexes Man and Woman Male and Female and we can not Change this.We are made the way we are for a Reason. Figure out why. Children have no rights to decide to mutilate their bodies until they are legal to vote, fight in wars, drink, smoke etc. Parents who want to do this to their child have No GOD in their lives. SO yes, put these History/Culture/Truth/Religious/Spiritual books in classrooms. The World will be a better place

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