stack of books on fire
“I think we should throw those books in a fire,” said school board member Rabih Abuismail.

A Virginia school board has had it with “sexually explicit” books in school libraries, voting 6-0 to conduct an audit to remove any such titles from school libraries across Spotsylvania County.

And some school board members want to take things a step further: They’d like to see the offending books burned.

Books Get Dewey Decimated

The Spotsylvania County School Board has already instructed staff to remove several offending books following a complaint from local parents Christina and Robert Burris, parents of a Riverbend High School student. They were initially upset by the amount of LGBTQ fiction that they found on their child’s school library app.

Then they discovered Adam Rapp’s book “33 Snowfish”, an award-winning book that includes adult themes such as sex, pedophilia, prostitution, and homosexual relationships. That was the final straw, apparently. The parents brought their concerns to the school board, saying that books with such explicit content simply do not belong in school libraries where teenagers can check them out. 

The board acted quickly in response. They voted 6-0 to remove all “sexually explicit” books from the school library, and are now planning a full audit of the library collection – a step that would likely result in many more books being banned. 

But for two school board members, even this response didn't go far enough. 

Fahrenheit 2021

“I think we should throw those books in a fire,” said school board member Rabih Abuismail. "I guess we live in a world now that our public schools would rather have kids read about gay pornography than Christ."

“There are some bad, evil-related material that we have to be careful of and look at,” said another board member, Kirk Twigg. “I’d like to see the books before we burn them so we can identify within our community that we are eradicating this bad stuff.”

Criticism quickly mounted online, with some drawing comparisons to fascist regimes that engaged in book burning. 

Others drew parallels to the dystopian novel "Fahrenheit 451" and wondered where the efforts will stop.

Many are concerned that a crusade to ban all "sexually explicit" titles would mean the removal – and potential burning – of some very popular books that happen to have challenging themes. A few that have already been banned in other school libraries include:

  • The Handmaid's Tale

  • The Kite Runner

  • I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings

LGBTQ Titles Targeted

It's worth noting that books with LGBTQ themes have been the most targeted for censorship in recent years. According to the American Library Association, Alex Gino’s novel “George” – featuring a transgender child – was the most challenged book in 2020. And in 2019, eight out of ten of the most challenged books had LGBTQ themes or content.

LGBTQ advocates say these books are crucial for gay teens, and that removing them from school shelves will only harm children, not protect them.

“Please, leave the queer books on the library shelves, where the queer teens can find them,” said author Maia Kobabe, whose graphic novel “Gender Queer” has been banned in libraries across the country. “As a queer teen, I desperately needed them. And the queer teens of today need them too."

What is your reaction?

94 comments

  1. Kurt Neuleuf's Avatar Kurt Neuleuf

    Great, burning of books of explicit sexual content, the foremost book they would have to burn is the Bible.

    See Genesis (19) : 33 36 , Genesis (35) : 22., Genesis (38) : 2. , Genesis (38) : 8 . 9. , Genesis (38) : 15 . 18. , 2 Samuel (13) : 11 . 14. ,2 Samuel (16) : 22. , Ezekiel (16) : 28. , : Ezekiel (23) : 3. , Ezekiel (23) : 5 . 8. , Hosea (4) : 12. , Hosea (6) : 10. , Hosea (9) : 1. , Genesis (9) : 21., 1 Samuel (19) : 24., 2 Samuel (6) : 20. ,: Isaiah (20) : 4. Isaiah (13) : 16. These are only just scratching the surface.

    Perhaps these Virginian parents expended so much energy begetting their children that it resulted in a short circuit in their neurons?? Who are the brave or fools who will burn the Bible? What a wonderful world it would be if they burned the Bible , Tanakh(Torah) and the Koran. all at once.

    1. Rev, Rene L.'s Avatar Rev, Rene L.

      To this day we bemoan the burning of the Alexandrian library, with much ancient writing and knowledge. I think we humans never learn from the past, and this is really the best we can expect from humanity! So let us burn, segregate, make war, and murder in the name of " we are better and you are different".

  1. Gerardo Salazar's Avatar Gerardo Salazar

    It begins by burning a sexually explicit book, then one that contains uncomfortable historical facts and those by philosophers and thinkers that disagree with their beliefs and then, before we know, the self appointed vigilantes will target books written by Communist, Jewish, Liberals, etc. and specially those considered subversive to THEIR way of life. Welcome to 1930s Germany, USA version, let’s burn everything and lock those who disagree in concentration camps. Have fun.

  1. Chris's Avatar Chris

    This is a public school system. Why is religion getting involved? If these people want their children to read about Jesus then do it at home or send them to a private religious institution.

    Not letting children learn about who they share this planet with will only serve to maintain the division and hatred and bigotry their parents are instilling in them. It'll be a shock to their system if they wander into the big wide world away from their small minded shelters and meet the people represented in those book they burned.

    1. pjm's Avatar pjm

      Exactly!

    2. Rev Mark D's Avatar Rev Mark D

      Well you know you are not thinking clearly. If you ever actually read the Bible, in virtually every version published, you will see that Jesus was and taught just about the most tolerant and welcoming messages not anyone has ever preached, he put it into practice, and he made the messages pray explicit and clear. So maybe your problem is that you have already banned and burned a certain very important book, which had you looked into it, would teach exactly the messages you want taught, the messages you think are important, and did so repeatedly. They think Jesus Is God, so those messages of Jesus are really quite a thorat ATIV. It matters not what is written, but who is doing the teaching and interpreting to see the messages. Any idiot can get what they want out of the Bible oh, and that's the real problem, which is actually untouched by any measure concerning book banning. Also see my comment a little earlier or above and add that to this. Take a Xanax or something, this little book ban mean zero, and really it isn't a slippery slope, if we're on a slope it isn't because of these books or because of a local school library policy. Bigger problems cause this problem, you're really focusing on our tiny symptom that leads nowhere on its own.

      1. Chris's Avatar Chris

        Rev Mark,

        I've read the bible. In fact, I spent several years in religious schools specifically studying the bible. I'm not sure why you think I haven't since I didn't say anything negative about it.

        I did go back and read your other comments as you suggested, and I don't disagree that such things are readily available to anyone who wants to find it. My point is that this is public school system and as such religion has no place in it. I know many parents who attempt to shield their children from the realities of the world, to the detriment of the child. If a parent wants their children to learn religious beliefs they need to do so at home or send their children to private institutions. It's not up to a public school to teach one specific religion.

        Where you see this as one tiny symptom which means nothing, I see it as one symptom of a larger problem taking place across the country. School boards are deciding not to teach certain things which don't coincide with their religion. They're using non-factual texts in classrooms. And with the recent political climate of Evangelicals trying to push their religious beliefs into law for everyone, this is concerning.

        I have no problem with the teachings of Jesus. I think he said many great things. I do have a problem with people who do bad things in his name, though. They claim to follow him and yet act in a decidedly opposite manner, and want to force this perversion of the teachings of Jesus into law.

  1. Robert Edward Szekely's Avatar Robert Edward Szekely

    Censorship is ignorance presented as protector of or defender against things ill-defined. A republic, such as the United States, is a free market of ideas, and our school system should reflect that. Furthermore, these are subjective judgements based on the biases of adults who think that destroying the medium which embodies the idea destroys the idea. These adults generally operate from a worldview which assumes that LGBTQI+ literature is evangelistic propaganda - because that it what these critics of independent and critical thought would have on the shelves if it were their choice. This kind of "torches and pitchforks" mentality has no place in a 21st century first world republic. This business of attempting to symbolically destroy ideas contrary to the mainstream borders on the fascistic. Those who even consider of have the audacity to propose it should be ashamed of daring to call themselves Americans in the same breath.

    1. Gary Richard Noce's Avatar Gary Richard Noce

      Of course the books in question are not pornagraphic. These people are extremists. Oh Daniel Grey, you must be one of those trumptydumpty people spreading crazy and sick lies. My goodness you are hateful. Stop the hate, stop the lies !!! Robert, I can't agree with you more. Extremism has got to go.

      1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        still calling names because you cant prove me wrong. You do know that this damages any point you are trying to make

  1. Gary's Avatar Gary

    “Where They Have Burned Books, They Will End Up Burning People” - Heinrich Heine

  1. Tom's Avatar Tom

    The problem is not with the school library... The problem is with the parents and guardians, who have projected their own fears and curiosity on their children, and, rather than take responsibility, they blame the school for making them face their child-rearing deficiencies...

  1. Herbert Moore's Avatar Herbert Moore

    Wonder how long it will take them to realize they can't burn the internet?

  1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

    I’m all for books of religion being correctly placed in the “Fiction” section in libraries and schools. It would help children to see what they truly are.

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    1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

      CHL, are you in favor of books by the Donald and other conservative like-"minded" people being correctly placed in the "Fiction" section in libraries and schools, to help children see what they truly are?!!

    2. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

      Are you also for all of the Donald's books being correctly placed in the "Fiction" section in libraries and schools, to help children see what they truly are?!!

      1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        I’m all for placing all books written by modern day politicians from all political sides John in the fictional category. Thank you for asking.

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        1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

          As George Orwell (your former countryman) wrote in Animal Farm: "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". Likewise, even if all books written by modern politicians might deserve to be in the fictional category, some deserve to be there far more than others do and the books written by Trumpelstiltskin definitely deserve to be there far more than anyone else's books do! This also raises the question why, if you now admit that the Donald's books should be in the Fiction section of libraries, you have been such a fanatical supporter of his all through his alleged "presidency" and still prefer him today, unless you are a supporter of fictions and lies?! Why are you cynical about Christianity and its "lies", but totally gullible about the Donald's and conservative lies, instead of cynical across the board about all lies?

          1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

            It seems to me John, that President Trump, and President Biden all have their failings, as do most politicians. I tend to vote for the party rather than the individual. Both have their failings though, and for me, the Democrat party has more failings than the Republican Party.

            As an example, I'm not in favor of the current open border policies, and I think that long term it's going to bite us in the proverbial butt. I'm all for helping those who are genuinely struggling in a humanitarian way coming from genuine war-torn countries, but for me, too many are jumping on the band wagon trying to get here from neighboring countries because we have a better standard of living. I'm also not in favor of shutting down our oil pipelines, which as you can see, is causing the obvious issues at the gas pumps. I am also not in favor of trading with China.

            Those who criticized President Trump during his term of office saying they'd do a far better job of containing Covid (Biden), and who criticized him for the number of Covid deaths during his term of office, have now been surpassed by the Biden administration, ie more deaths, and Covid still surges on. The left wing media is noticeably very quiet about it, but wouldn't be if President Trump was still in office.

            Of the Democrats, I actually quite like Tulsi Gabbard. To me, she seems to talk a lot of sense. It's okay to disagree John, and no doubt you will. That's the beauty of freedom and liberty, and the 1st Amendment....right? Thank you for responding, asking for clarity.

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  1. Weldon Joe Horton's Avatar Weldon Joe Horton

    Fascists can burn books, but not truth or ideas.

  1. CB Cuff's Avatar CB Cuff

    If said books are already in the library, someone at sometime approved them. Possibly they'd like to burn all the science, medical, history, and 'romance' books that contain information they don't understand or takes sides with. Ahhh to be 'Born Again', with half a brain.

  1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

    Please. The Catholic church promotes clergy on child pedophilia, that's why they want to block other forms of sex. Catholicism & the Republican Party need to go.

    1. Kevin Joseph Kervick's Avatar Kevin Joseph Kervick

      But there is an important attempt by militant Catholics to expunge the church of its homosexuality and predator problem. Check out the group called Militant Catholic for more information. They are an inspiring group trying to fix the problem.

    2. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      Oh really? then why have the most people who have been convicted for attempts to have sex with teens and prostitutes, according to the FBI Crime Report of 2020 clearly show that its the DEMOCRATS who do this by over 75% And you cant dispute this as these are the reports that come from every County State and local police agency in the US. In fact just recently you had a man and a woman who ran a childerns group BOTH being charged with sexual assault on children under the age of 18 and by a simple search you can see they were both Registered Democrats. Do a simple Google Search and out of the over 39 million sites saying this pops up, less then 5 million come back to GOP/Republicans, the rest are clearly Democrats and you can find that out by a simple search of the local voting records.

      You need to keep your opinions to yourself child.

      1. Tom's Avatar Tom

        That's a really interesting and concerning statistic. Where did you find that data broken out by political preference? I haven't found a website yet that lists that info but I'd be very interested in reading the report you found if you can provide me a link.

        1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          FBI Crime Report and the US Library of Congress as well as the AP and UPI archives.

          1. Tom's Avatar Tom

            I haven't found anything on those websites where you could break it down by party preference. Do you have a link to the web page you found that information on?

            1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

              simple use of google will set you right

              1. Alan Meunier's Avatar Alan Meunier

                So, basically, you cannot provide the requesterd information (because it does not exist). Did it come from Fox "news"? OAN? Breitbart? In my 60 years on earth I have seem many more GOP congressmen get arrested for sex crimes than any other demographic. I am a data scientist and know for a fact the data from the FBI does not include party affiliation.

              2. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

                I can and did. Whats wrong? mad because every time you post utter horse droppings and it gets proved to be false, then you get upset and try and claim it came from Fox? What part of the FBI Crime report did you seemingly not understand?

              3. Tom's Avatar Tom

                What part of the FBI Crime Report breaks this down by political party preference? I've used every Google search trick I know to find the information you claim exists but I still haven't found it.

                Maybe I'm terrible at using a Google search to find the correct information and that's why I can't find anything. This is why I have asked multiple times if you could provide me with a link to where you found this information. Just telling us to use Google doesn't provide us with information and I'm very interested in learning more about this data if it does indeed exist.

              4. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

                So basically I did provide information. So are you admitting that you cant use a search engine?

      2. Gary Richard Noce's Avatar Gary Richard Noce

        Of course the books in question are not pornagraphic. These people are extremists. Oh Daniel Grey, you must be one of those trumptydumpty people spreading crazy and sick lies. My goodness you are hateful. Stop the hate, stop the lies !!!

      3. Lyndy Borden's Avatar Lyndy Borden

        Please cite your sources properly. The FBI Crime report doesn't deal with political affiliation. Once again, you're wrong.

      4. Robert Gagnon's Avatar Robert Gagnon

        In 1970 I was ten, as was my neighbor John who as an alter boy. He told me what a priest was doing to him. He sad he'd told his parents and they beat him for saying such a disgusting thing about a priest. Saw the same ignorance with a friend of my daughters parents many years ago. Christians would rather tolerate the abuse of their children than be ostracized for calling out their leaders. It is normally those who complain the loudest that are the most guilty. I don;t believe sexually provocative (titillating) books should be in a school library. But informative books should be available for those seeking answers.

        1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          Sorry but I find this very hard to believe.

          And if a parent wants these books (straight or homosexual) in their personal library in their home they are more then welcome to purchase them. But they have absolutely NO right nor authority to introduce them to anyone elses children without their permission. To do so even in a school library, is and can be charged with distributing pornography and they can lose their license and spend time in prison.

          So again what you do with your children is up to you, but you have absolutely no authority to try and have gay or straight sexual books placed in a public or school library for under aged children to be able to get their hands on.

          You want these books, then buy them yourself

    3. Gerardo Salazar's Avatar Gerardo Salazar

      Promotes? Please, by telling lies you do not earn extra points. An example: “ THE TENNESSEAN | 4:06 pm CST February 18, 2020 The Southern Baptist Convention's Executive Committee expelled a Texas church Tuesday for employing a pastor who is a registered sex offender.”.

      Who is protecting pedophiles?

      1. Robert James Ruhnke's Avatar Robert James Ruhnke

        The Catholic Church literally shuffles around predatory priests instead of throwing them in jail yearly. Our goddamn society lets rapists go free daily. The southern baptist church firing one registered sex offender was done as a means to protect the other sexual predators there who are unregistered. An that’s a lot of them.

        1. Gerardo Salazar's Avatar Gerardo Salazar

          Not only among diverse clergy; you’ll find them all around us disguised as doctors, musicians, teachers and even family members. I’m an ardent advocate of life in prison/death for these asocial monsters.

  1. Charles Jude Platt's Avatar Charles Jude Platt

    Welcome to "Nazi" America.

  1. John P Maher's Avatar John P Maher

    JUST ANOTHER CRIME STARTED BY THE G O Pigs, ALL BOOKS ARE GREAT INPUT, UNLESS YOUR STUPID, WHO WROTE THE BIBLE ?

  1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

    If they really really want to ban sexually explicit books, they should start with the Bible. David and Bathsheba, jus' sayyin'.

  1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

    The really cool thing about this is... Every one of those books is available for free on the Internet. But Not-See's must have someone/something to hate. It gives their small lives purpose and meaning.

  1. Cheryl Anne Hamm's Avatar Cheryl Anne Hamm

    Not only have we not learned from the past we are now head down, mind closed, barreling back to darker ages. GOD granted us free will to live our lives and decide for ourselves if we want to believe or not, yet so many from religious organizations seek to tread upon the free will of those who have different ideologies. Don't see too many self-appointed "Gods ambassadors" doing actual God's work.

  1. Mark Hannon's Avatar Mark Hannon

    I would like a list of every book they want to get rid of so I can make sure I have a hardcover of every single one. I tend to like banned books. One of my favorites was the series, "His Dark Materials".

    I remember Literature classes with books written while sex and STD's had to be hidden in the text so they would be published. I wonder if the U.S. is headed toward this bleak view.

  1. John Anderson's Avatar John Anderson

    TL;DWTR: GROW UP, PEOPLE. People will still do these things, but they will do them under less than ideal conditions.

    If you want to stop these books getting out there, STOP DRAWING ATTENTION TO THEM. Burning a book only destroys that particular copy, there's another million or so out there. You CANNOT stop an idea, nor can it be successfully banned after being expressed. The only thing a parent can do is make sure that your kids are mature enough to understand. I think it is very strange how these people get so up in arms over something that Yeshua never comments on (the only references to homosexuality in any form in the New Testament are from the words of Saul of Tarsis, in the epistles), and yet claim to be standing up for the faith put forward by him. As a library tech myself, it's far more dangerous to burn a book than to simply let it rot unused on the shelf, because drawing attention to it will mean that it is signed out more, by people wondering what all the fuss is about. When "Erotica" by Madonna came out, the wait list was often over a year. Why? Because people were curious to see why everyone was so up in arms about it. The book itself was of questionable quality, but the hype made it sell millions of copies. Not everyone is the same, and that's a good thing. Getting information out to those who need it to realize that they are still members of society (and therefore cutting down on suicide rates) is better than forcing them into closets again. The Handmaid's Tale is over 30 years old, but it got added to these lists again because people saw things in it that they connected (in their OWN minds) with things that were happening in the real world. It was written well before these occurrences. Repealing Roe v Wade won't stop abortions, it will only stop safe ones. People will continue to do what they want or need to do, forcing it behind closed doors will only make it so that safeguards are removed.

    1. Robert Edward Szekely's Avatar Robert Edward Szekely

      John Anderson: side comment - you stated that "the only references to homosexuality in any form in the New testament are from the words of Saul of Tarsis [sic], in the epistles". Could you please identify which ones, as the only reference I've found is in the Old Testament in Leviticus 18:12, which is directed at Levite priests. I tool believe that quotes in the Bible are often pulled out of context and weaponized, so I am curious which Pauline quotes could be included in that regarding LGBTQI people, so that I may deconstruct and refute them.

  1. Walter Riggs's Avatar Walter Riggs

    This de-escalated quickly: https://fredericksburg.com/news/local/education/spotsylvania-school-board-rescinds-explicit-book-ban/article_2c767e3e-a3ea-540a-b748-fab654fa9286.html

  1. Kathryn Darcy Smith's Avatar Kathryn Darcy Smith

    I googled for some images of the book "Genderqueer". It had comic-like illustrations of a boy sucking off another boy... yeah... kind of a trigger there. Probably should leave that out of the school. If the school board says it's not pornography, then what is? I'm a member of the LGBTQ++++ community and I find it inappropriate for the age demographic for which it is available.

  1. Edwin Merle Waltz's Avatar Edwin Merle Waltz

    I don’t believe in book burning but agree they don’t need to be around for kids School to learn three R’s. Not about being gay

  1. Edwin Merle Waltz's Avatar Edwin Merle Waltz

    I don’t believe in book burning but agree they don’t need to be around for kids School to learn three R’s. Not about being gay

  1. Edwin Merle Waltz's Avatar Edwin Merle Waltz

    I don’t believe in book burning but agree they don’t need to be around for kids School to learn three R’s. Not about being gay

  1. Edwin Merle Waltz's Avatar Edwin Merle Waltz

    I don’t believe in book burning but agree they don’t need to be around for kids School to learn three R’s. Not about being gay

    1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

      Edwin, how many times are you going to post the same message?

  1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

    In a public library put off in a section reserved for 18 and over, I would say absolutely not and to leave them alone. But in a SCHOOL library? What mental moron would ever think it was a good idea to allow pornography in a public or private school library with kids under the age of 18? I hope anyone who thinks this is a good idea knows its a federal felony to pander obscene materials to children. It violates 18 U.S.C. § 1465; 18 U.S.C. § 1466 and can land you in a federal prison for at least 10 to 20 years and be fined upwords of 250,000 PER instance (book/magazine/movie/etc) PER DAY! And it makes no difference if its straight pornography or homosexual pornography, federal law says it CANNOT be allowed to let children under the age of 18 see such stuff.

    Now what you allow your own children to see while at home is your business, but once you wander into the public arena, then you are in deep trouble and they have absolutely no legal leg to stand on as there are laws like this in every state as well as the federal laws. So if you think its ok to let children see pornography in a public school or even in a private school (colleges/universities do not count) then just go ahead and put in NAMBA or Homosexual or penthouse/etc in a school library and see what happens to you.

    1. Tom's Avatar Tom

      I think most people are objecting to what these groups are considering as "pornography". Do these books actually contain pornographic material or do they simply detail relationships that are deemed to be "immoral" by these parents? If they are labeling books such as "I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings" as "pornographic" then that would be a problem since there is no pornography in that book. Writing stories about a homosexual relationship or transgender persons might be viewed unfavorably by some groups but it wouldn't be pornography.

      By definition, pornography is "printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings" so discussing a sexual relationship wouldn't immediately be pornography unless it is written for erotic purposes.

      1. Gary Richard Noce's Avatar Gary Richard Noce

        Of course the books in question are not pornagraphic. These people are extremists.

        1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          Poor little lost soul. mad when proved wrong and you have to start calling names now?

      2. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        Didnt read the story did you? here is a quote from it "adult themes such as sex, pedophilia, prostitution, and homosexual relationships." Now if they can put you in prison for sexting, then you can be put in prison for this.

        Or are you saying that you would be ok with a school allowing your 10 year old child access to books such as these?

        1. Tom's Avatar Tom

          I did read the story which I why I know that this was a parent of a high school student, not a 10 year old child, having access to this book. I would probably be uncomfortable with my fifth grade student reading this book but I wouldn't have the same reservations about my high school student reading this as long as I was comfortable with their level of maturity.

          A book that discusses "adult themes such as sex, pedophilia, prostitution, and homosexual relationships" is not pornography unless the content is written for erotic purposes. I have not read the book myself (and I'm assuming neither have you) so I can't speak specifically about the content of "33 Snowfish" but from what I've gathered, it doesn't present these adult themes as erotic but as sad and horrific experiences that the subjects of the novel are trying to deal with.

          1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

            Seemingly you didnt as you forgot to mention the AGE of the student. as well as this being a freshman and well under the age of 18 which makes pandering porn to them a state and federal felony.

            Try again

            1. Tom's Avatar Tom

              Where in this article does it say the student was a freshman?

              What about these books makes them pornography? Simply because they discuss adult topics doesn't make them porn.

              1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

                it clearly states that in the local news. And it clearly states that this child was taken there without the parents permission

              2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

                Tom, I think it meant the student was new meat.

    2. Lyndy Borden's Avatar Lyndy Borden

      They want to burn books by Margaret Atwood (A Handmaid's Tale) and Maya Angelou (I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings). I'm guessing you haven't read them because, you don't seem like the type of person who can read, but these books have nothing to do with pedophilia, and don't have much in the way of sexual themes, these are books that are fine for the average high schooler to read.

      If all you Christian snowflakes want is for your kids to read the bible and only the bible, your kids are going to get dumber (and if you look at the education levels in the states, you'll see that's already happeneing).

      1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        No sorry, these books should be left alone. And if you want porn available to your children then you do it on YOUR time, not in a public setting. Thats why you wont go to a public library and see Penthouse or Hustler or adult movies available to borrow or read or rent. And thats why you are seeing books with adult themes graphically stating straight or bisexual or homosexual sex being removed. Again if you want to allow these books for your children, then do so. But you have NO authority to force a school or a public library to make them available just to sooth your feelings.

  1. Reverend Gary's Avatar Reverend Gary

    It was better "in the beginning" when everyone was naked and hid nothing, but there was only one. "Adam" was all alone in the "garden of eden."

  1. Rev Mark D's Avatar Rev Mark D

    Well I don't think I ever learned a whole lot from books after I switched to the now universally available internet and phone apps and phone services, on which all kinds of sex is available and extremely explicit, from A to Z, and because they are multi-sensory and visually available, Plus not only social medium but social groups is where the kids learn perhaps 99% of what they learn when it comes to this topic...thereby always far more effective teaching media than some non-school-library book...as anybody even passing familiar with and competent with child development, teaching and learning, and developmental and clinical psychology, and knows much of anything about kids anyway, I can certainly attest.

    When the flooding sea or river has broken down a large part of the dike, you don't accomplish the reverse by taping over a finger or or a thimble's worth of wall. So BFD.

  1. Rev Mark D's Avatar Rev Mark D

    Has it occurred to any of these people that just about any book around is now available as an e-book? Or that one tiny little chip can hold several hundred books at a time? Some chips are even 8 Ball to store over a thousand bucks oh, and we're talkin chips that are less than half a natural fingernail in size. Some software rather handily available even allows you to go in and highlight the good parts.

  1. Kevin Joseph Kervick's Avatar Kevin Joseph Kervick

    We learned this month that 37% of young adults now identify as LGBTQ, which is an absurd notion, given that the best research has the actual number around 3%. This strongly suggests social contagion at work. We also learned this month that educators in LGBTQ clubs are literally "stalking" youngsters' social media footprints for opportunities to recruit them. Put these two stories together and you see something dastardly at work. Kids lives are being destroyed by unnecessarily dragging them through this sexual morass. I believe this is child abuse for diversity, equity, and inclusion cash. The more kids they can convert the more status and cash they get.

    We are also seeing growing calls for acceptance of "minor attraction" and we also know from research that gay men often say their first sexual experiences were with gay adult men. Celebrities like Milo Yiannapolis have blown the cover on this dark open secret. The Catholic Church is a haven for homosexual men hitting on boys. 87% of the sexual abuse victims over the years were adolescent boys abused by a gay priest.

    Is it possible these gay-themed sex books are grooming impressionable and insecure kids into a lifestyle they would otherwise not enter? I think so.

    Our society is too sexualized. Any effort to remove sexually-explicit material is a good thing. Ministers should be on the side of chastity and innocence. "Burning" the books was hyperbole and meant to make a statement that these materials are harmful. I wholeheartedly support these parents trying to protect their kids.

    1. Robert Edward Szekely's Avatar Robert Edward Szekely

      Kevin - what is the source for those statistics you've cited?

      1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        he wont tell you as he cant, they are made up. Even the last US Census showed only .5% of the population claim to be LGBTQ, and if he does reply he will give you some source that has not had their paper peer reviewed meaning its just their opinion and not based on fact

  1. Ryan S Romanek's Avatar Ryan S Romanek

    I don't agree with burning books, however I do agree with banning the books from my sons curriculum. I am sending my son to a Christian school next year due to New Jerseys incessant push to educate my children the way they want them to think like a mindless drone for the states benefit not ours. When has it been ok for anyone to teach your children about these subjects and WE THE PEOPLE continue to let these fools influence our lives.

  1. Ruth Veale's Avatar Ruth Veale

    Whether we like it or not, the LGBTQ is here to stay and there's nothing we can do. I really don't see how burning book is going to stop this.

    People are who they are, my daughter is a Lesbian, I don't love her any less and a accept her as she's my daughter and I love her. I'm here for her if she wants.

    If you burn books, people will be more and more inquisitive, just don't make it a big deal and just go about your daily business.

    The world would be a very boring place if people were same.

    1. Kevin Joseph Kervick's Avatar Kevin Joseph Kervick

      I disagree. We can stop the contagion and return the LGB to the status of an important small minority. We can also reverse the trans contagion phenomenon that is killing children. It is our responsibility as moral leaders to do so.

  1. Gary Richard Noce's Avatar Gary Richard Noce

    This sounds a lot like Nazi Germany !!!

  1. Dan Anderson's Avatar Dan Anderson

    In 1972/73, the Placentia Unified School District in Placentia, California, banned "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" because it HINTED of an abstract form of reincarnation. It amazes me how terrified some people get when something which is slightly to one side of their belief system will trigger them off to where they get hostile.

    Why?

  1. Allen Haas's Avatar Allen Haas

    I believe that parents have a responsibility to guide their children to make responsible choices. Burn books? Well, no but if it is done as a private action rather than a government sanctioned action then my objection is personal as well. School boards are not appointed by God to decide what's suitable. They are elected officials entrusted by parents with a certain degree of in loco parentis authority over children - authority brings with it responsibility. There are images and books which are simply not suitable for children. Graphic depictions of violence for example. Isolating on a few books begs the question. If parents want their children to have access to books addressing graphic subject matter they are free to purchase those books and put them on the shelves in their home. I wonder how many actually do that. As citizens we have a right to object to the things on which public funds are spent.

  1. Clinton Kim Knight's Avatar Clinton Kim Knight

    I find the comments here neither tollarant or inclusive! Protecting a child from morally unacceptable literature is the job of the parents and to explain why to that child.

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      I agree, but sadly, it’s surprising how many parents seem to be clueless as to what is acceptable for children and what isn’t. Children are so gullible, and religious parents have great influence on young immature minds that can cause trauma later in life trying to escape the bonds religion has on them. Many don’t even see the Bible as being sexually explicit portraying low moral standards. Just a quick read of the Songs Of Solomon is a classic example. And then there’s the misogynistic verses that denigrate the worth of females. It actually surprises me that females embrace the Abrahamic religions and worship that god. 🤷🏼

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      1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

        For you, of all people, to call children or anyone else "gullible" and say that they have "immature minds" that others can cause "trauma... trying to escape the bonds" others have put on them, considering your own submission to and enthrallment by Trumpelstiltskin's and conservative lies and indoctrination, is really laughable!! You don't see the Donald as having very low moral standards, as everyone else quite clearly sees about him. He is misogynistic, as his name calling and treatment of women and numerous adulterous affairs with women prove!! So, why are you talking about the Bible's immorality or anyone else's brainwashing, when you don't even recognize and admit the immorality in your own guy right in front of your face and your own brainwashing?! Some immorality in the Bible or human thoughts put into God's mouth or actions don't negate "Love your neighbor as yourself", "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you", and other gold in the Bible, since that is the real Word of God! The Donald has shown us who he really is and a few half-hearted and for mere politics' and appearance's sake "good" things that he has done don't disguise that true Donald from us, anymore than Hitler's bringing Germany out of the Depression or having the Autobahn built disguise the truth about him from us!!

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          I've already answered your concerns John in the post further above, if they get posted it. If we had to vote for people, and not their governmental policies for the nation, I doubt any politician would come out favorably. We can all point to flaws of character, and President Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, the Squad, et al, all have them, as well as President Trump. Thank you for your concern though and allowing me to clarify my reasoning. It's okay to not agree. Isn't it wonderful we are in a country where we can do so. Some countries are not so lucky, most of them are left wing socialist countries where many people are trying to get out of. Hopefully, when those refugees get to vote here in the US, they will remember what they left behind and previous voting practices, and will never vote left wing again, but who knows? 🤷🏼

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          1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

            Why are you only now, after you have been pressured and questioned into doing it, admitting that Trumpelstiltskin has personal flaws and made many mistakes and deliberate acts of meanness and indifference to people, but weren't doing so while he was in office, and, instead, were going along with him and making excuses for the wrong things that he did or just plain ignoring them and refusing to even see them or admit that they were done at all?! It was (and still is for other Trumpophiles) all of your going along with him and approving of everything that he did, while condemning just as indiscriminately and unthinkingly everything that Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, and other Democrats did and do that make many people believe that you are all very lopsided, unfair, and unrealistic in your thinking about the Donald and Democrats. An admission that you have to be pressured or questioned into making is immediately suspect and doesn't sound very sincere at all, but like something that you will drop and revert back to your former position once the pressure and questions are gone. I'm very happy about your apparent "enlightenment" about your guy, though it does sound like the Klan and Nazis trying to put a public relations statement out about themselves and say that "we aren't racists, but only for white people" and just more of that kind of PR, but, as I asked, why did it take pressure and questions to get you there, instead of your being there right from the start, as other people were about the Donald? People who are fleeing from criminal gangs and seeking asylum in this country aren't "just jumping on the bandwagon of trying to get to this country because we have a better standard of living here", but genuinely need help, which, if you really care about unfortunate people, as you claim above, you will be in favor of giving to your less fortunate brothers and sisters! Everyone can't come here from England and other well off countries, comparatively, and go through the regular admission process, anymore than emergency room victims of heart attacks and gunshot wounds can go through regular hospital admission procedures, since many people need special consideration, and you can't just say "I've got mine and am here, and to Hell with these less fortunate people", in essence, if not blatantly! The good or baby that you throw out with the bathwater in the Bible tells us to love our neighbors as ourselves and do unto others as we would have others do unto us and care for the stranger in our midst. Why would people even from left wing countries never vote left wing again when it is the right wing and Trumpelstiltskin and conservatives, such as yourself, who didn't want them to get in here and argued against their doing so and tried to block them from coming into this country? And you think that they should be grateful to all of you for that and vote exclusively right wing from now on because of your "great concern for them"?! On what planet?! Because that isn't happening here!! What has "left wing" got to do with it?

    2. Lyndy Borden's Avatar Lyndy Borden

      Which books are they burning?

      The Handmaid's Tale, Kite Runner, these aren't inappropriate books, I read them in hs and elementary school. If you're too much of a snowflake to handle the content of these books, don't let your kids read it, burning these (critically acclaimed) books is a stupid action, and you're depriving kids who actually care about school more than your dumbass bible.

  1. Stephen E. Goll's Avatar Stephen E. Goll

    What Idiots!

  1. John Ball's Avatar John Ball

    Parents should have the right to choose what is in their children's school library. We may not like what they excluede, but it is their school. The real issue is much bigger, of course, becaue school is a process of indoctrination.

    1. Cara Eve Lair's Avatar Cara Eve Lair

      And what if there is one parent that disagrees with the others? Do you think that parent should be overruled or should that parent have equal say?

  1. Kevin Charles Stoneburner's Avatar Kevin Charles Stoneburner

    It starts with burning written works, and ends with burning the writers themselves.

    I’ve never understood the mindset of “Forbidden Knowledge”, or “I’m the parent, and I said so.”

    Let them explore their intellectual pursuits. Invite argument. If your position is so weak it cannot withstand debate with a child, perhaps it’s time to rethink your position.

    We are training young humans to become adults, thereby making ourselves obsolete. That’s the plan. Do not punish or prevent them from “Thinking without permission.” It’s something that needs practice, or they’ll grow into adults that act without thinking.

    (Sorry, I’ll yield the pulpit now.)

  1. Marathuzula's Avatar Marathuzula

    Seems dangerous to have a public school board chaired by someone who invokes a religious sentimentality. I think the only criteria we need is: Knowledge is Power. I don't know what kids should be reading. I don't know if kids should be reading 'x', but if a kid is trying to find 'x' I know it should be in the library for them to learn about. Talking about Trans issues and book burning is 100% a throw back to Weimar Germany a hundred years ago. Institut Fur Sexualwissenschaft was definitely a target of early Nazism.

  1. Dennis McGaughey's Avatar Dennis McGaughey

    It would be nice if we could remove all this sin but we live in a sinful world.we have to keep praying & seeking God our eyes on him .yes they need to get rid of that crap

  1. Leona Weisenbach's Avatar Leona Weisenbach

    I have not seen the books they are talking about burning. But I do feel everything is age appropriate. Knowledge over fear....this also is how you veiw the world... reality. I'm not against teaching religion...all religions.... World religion.. How we teach sex education...It's more than an sex act...It's emotions....We need Children to be critical thinkers and not to be pushed into anyone's bullshit.

  1. Tim Yorty's Avatar Tim Yorty

    If a public school library / school board is going to decide which books can and can't be allowed based on the beliefs of the school board members - isn't that a violation of the 1st amendment - at least on a local level?

    If you don't want your kids to have access to sexually explicit material, then you better make sure they don't have a cell phone.

    If you haven't raised your kids to believe and accept your own beliefs what does that mean besides that you don't trust them?

    As a parent don't you realize you can raise your kids a certain way but when they reach the age of reason they have the God-given right to freedom of choice? And that's something you can't control - at least not forever.

    The problem here lies with the adults trying to enforce their religious beliefs on everyone's kids in a public school when they should actually expend much more effort teaching their own kids about truly accepting Christ and living their lives in obedience to Him - then the kids would 1) have choice 2) have knowledge of what sin is and the power of Christ to overcome temptation. Then books in some library would have no influence on or attraction for them.

  1. Kevin Joseph Kervick's Avatar Kevin Joseph Kervick

    It is a homosexuality problem. Efforts are underway to purge the Bishop class. It will undoubtedly create a much smaller church.

  1. Kevin Joseph Kervick's Avatar Kevin Joseph Kervick

    “Tolerance and apathy are the virtues of a dying society.” Aristotle

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