Is nothing sacred?
That’s what many Catholics are saying after Mother’s Day Sunday masses were besieged by pro-choice protestors picketing the Church’s pro-life stance on abortion.
Pro-choice activists disrupted services in multiple cities in an apparent effort to call attention to Catholicism's role in opposing abortion.
The protests are part of broader unrest nationwide following a leaked Supreme Court document that seems to indicate that the nation’s highest court will overturn Roe v. Wade.
While outraged Catholics took to social media to air their frustrations, the pro-choice activists who organized the events argued that interrupting mass is entirely justified considering the Church’s long shadow in the fight against legal abortion.
Disrupting the Masses
Dressed in the signature red shrouds and white hoods of ‘The Handmaid’s Tale,’ several protesters entered the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels in Los Angeles on Mother’s Day in protest of the Catholic Church’s anti-abortion stance.
A video viewed nearly 1.5 million times on Twitter alone shows the protesters carrying a pro-choice sign down church aisles, before being escorted out by security and a handful of parishioners.
Protesters in Seattle similarly took their cause to the pews, demonstrating on the steps outside St. James Cathedral. Wearing hospital gowns with bloody marks over their wombs and bearing wire hangers as props, they laid motionless on the steps of the cathedral before trying to make their way inside – although security stopped them from actually getting in.
Is Church Off Limits?
The incidents – just two of many that occurred nationwide – have sparked a debate on just where the line is when it comes to protesting. Is it okay to disrupt worship for a cause you believe in?
Some say that interrupting the religious worship of anyone is wildly disrespectful, regardless of the issues. And many have pointed out that while pro-life demonstrations are a common sight outside Planned Parenthood, they don’t enter the clinic themselves to share their message.
Pro-choice advocates, however, argue that this is a matter of life and death. If Roe is reversed, women will die, they say. The Catholic Church, they argue, will have their blood on its hands.
It's worth noting that nearly half of U.S. states have ‘trigger laws’ that will immediately ban abortion – in whole or part – the moment Roe is reversed.
What do you think? Is Sunday church service fair game for pro-choice protests? Or is disrupting worship in sacred spaces a bridge too far?
84 comments
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John P Maher
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Peggyann Johnson-Hansen
Wow, you really hate the Catholic Church. Your comments target one church, however, you need to look at all the doctrines of all churches to make a fair judgement. What you may not know is that the Catholic Church does allow the death of a child under extreme circumstances. That is not the case with all Christian churches across the board. The seeking of power, greed, and domination can and does seep into many Christian and Catholic churches. Check out other doctrines of various churches in the name of Christianity and you will find the treatment of many cultures and people that historically have caused the death and destruction of humanity that differed from a church's beliefs and interpretation of scripture.
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Richard Darwin Richards
Christ is under attack yet again!
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Shirley Jean Davis
Jesus never mentioned pro or con on prolife, so please leave him out of this struggle. It's a purely human one.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Shirley, if Jesus really existed I bet he said a lot of things those retards didn't put in the bible. How can anyone put everything someone said in 33 years, in a book? They only put the things he supposedly said that they wanted people to know about, and abide by. Everything someone says in just one year would take up far more pages than what's in the New Testament.
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Richard Darwin Richards
He was always ministering to and healing the children. We kind of take that as pro life!!!
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Lionheart
I should think so. If he truly was the god of the Old Testament he was perhaps trying to make up for butchering them back in the day before he impregnated Mary and created himself.
Weird right? And people actually believe this BS 🤷🏼
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Amber Fry
Yes, children that were already born. Not just children but people who were sick, starving, destitute... alive and struggling in life. In that time a child was not a child until it was born and breathing. That is the real pro life.
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Richard Darwin Richards
So pregnant women mean nothing to you?
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Ronald Ray Villarreal
If you actually bother to read the Bible it repeatedly states the unborn are NOT alive or people, it also states life is nor sacred.
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Lionheart
I wonder if Jesus ever really existed, and if he did, I wonder what he ever really said 🤔
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Rev Mary
He did exist. Read Josephus, Roman historian. Then read the Beatitudes Matthew 5: v 1 - 12 then watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5OnF3sg0cY&ab_channel=TheChosen. Here is your answers ~ Chaplain Mary
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Lionheart
Josephus was not a contemporary historian during the time the said Jesus was alive. He never met Jesus, so he was only reiterating stories he’d heard.
I don’t need to read the Beatitudes because they are contained only in a book written by human beings that never met Jesus. It’s like reading CNN and hoping to be reading the truth. 🤷🏼
So, with respect Mary, your references do not contain the answer. Thank you for your reply though
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Christine
CNN said Trump won the presidency, so I guess you proved your point
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Lionheart
🤣 Thank you Christine 🤣
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Richard Darwin Richards
Jesus is pro life all the way!!!
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Joe Stutler
His dad, however.... genocidal psychopath. Amazing so many actually worship that mythological critter....that's some serious stupid/evil right there.
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
His father isn't. Killed his own son, Jesus, against his will.. Killed a whole bunch of first born's. Wiped out the whole world with a flood. God is not and never has been pro-life.
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Richard Darwin Richards
There is no excuse for humans butchering each other, ALL lives matter!
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Susan Colmenares
Jesús was never pregnant.
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Richard Darwin Richards
Jesus is God and can do anything He wants, even be pregnant!
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Dawn Moneyhan
Thank you for saying this!
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Amber Fry
Of course he was. He helped the sick, the poor and the hungry. He dealt with people already here, breathing and in need. In those times life began at first breath.
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Robert Gagnon
Jesus never mentioned the subject. Attacking Catholics is way off base. Most Catholics are not radical haters of abortion. The Evangelists are the folks you want to go after. I am of the opinion that abortion should be put to the vote, and let the people decide. No one is happy with these so called representatives that have infiltrated our government. America grows closer to apartheid every day. Let the true majority decide.
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Amber Fry
The one thing most Catholics I've met are generally very good at is living their own religion as they see fit and leaving people to make their own choices to live with. Getting good with whatever god a person believes in is between each person and their god. Freedoms to choose as needed for one's self shouldn't be all that hard to understand and accept. Like or not, agree with or not... doesn't matter. Just accept that it's between a person and their god and in accordance to their needs.
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James Grainger
Why should churches be off limits, they have been at the center of controversy since the beginning. A woman or child who is the victim of rape or incest has the right to decide. It is between her and her God, not you and your God. I also believe that a time limit is necessary, after 4 - 6 weeks, it is to late to abort
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Kristi
You realize that 4 weeks is the day you realize you missed your period. And sometimes a preganancy test still won't say positive because the hormone it tests isn't in a high enough level then. 6 weeks is only being late on your period by two weeks. A woman who has an irregular cycle, this is not unusual.
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AnnaMarie Ingrassia
As long as these "sacred places" keep their fingers in the cauldrons of of politics and government, they should not be exempt of the freedom of choice of the people. How dare any clergy deny the holy eucharist to anyone because of their political stance. The Divine will be their judge and jury...not the clergy. If the churches want so much influence with and within the government of the peoples...then allow the churches, mosques & synagogues, etc...to pay their fair share of taxes ... as well as huge corps. and their upper echelon ! So let it be done...
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Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
Though I disagree with the Catholic Church's position, do think that worship services should be off limits. I'd apply that to pro-lifers protesting during services at a progressive denomination's church.
I think abortion should be legal, safe and rare. The decision should be between the woman, those she trusts and her doctor.
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Rev. John Bolen
I agree with you thoughts on abortion . I don't think any church service should be interrupted . If someone doesn't like what a church or denomination is putting out , then they should find one that fits their beliefs.
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Amber Fry
I don't know about that. If they can interject into the law and the lives of people then the people and the law should be able to interject into the church. Forcing people to align with their rules then they are being just as disruptive. Fair is fair.
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JaZe
The church does not stay off limits in politics, never. In past centuries when only some monks and priests knew the letters even kings trusted the church with secrets and sought their agency in negotiations and as intermediaries. Hence churches influence grew enormously due to the uneducated and it has stayed that way for centuries. Thus they dont want to let go of such power and influence.
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Rev Frankie PG
Sanctuary is defined as a place of refuge or safety. Being a retired U.S. Marine and an International Humanitarian Law Instructor I can assure you that churches have been a no touch policy for decades. Problem is, it's a no touch policy for those that abide by policies. Religious warfare has been going on for centuries even in B.C. times. Americans, though, are not used to resistance, hence the shock and awe of these non policy abiders. The people in L.A., that went into the church blatantly violated the sanctity of churches, while the ones in Seattle abided by it. Like many protesters, they're hearts are in the right place but they're not using their brains to get a constructive message across. These groups should really be protesting their state and federal legislative groups and elected officials for their failure to make an actual law since the Roe v. Wade decision was made nearly 50 years ago. On the federal level, a SCOTUS Ruling/ Decision is only as valid as an Executive Order by the President. A law is passed by the legislative branch and is interpreted by the Judicial Branch, hence the checks and balances.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Just because Jesus didn't have an abortion doesn't mean he didn't think about it.
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Rev Mark D
Everyone who is pro-abortion was deliberately not aborted.
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Amber Fry
Nobody is pro abortion. It's about choice. You don't have to be for it to realize and understand sometimes situations arise that abortion is necessary for the life and livelihood of the woman involved.
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Peggyann Johnson-Hansen
The Ten Commandments of God in the Old Testament state "Thou shall not commit murder." It is true that God does not reveal the specifics in relationship to abortion at any stage of human growth. However, it is worthy to note that the life of the said child contains fifty percent each of the mother and father's DNA, which develops into a unique individual in his or her own right to life. The semantics relating to the rights of life have to include the child that remains a combination of fifty percent of the mother and father, thus creating a new unique individual. Why do we as humans believe we have our own rights to live, while eliminating the child(s) right to live? In effect we have become a society where human culling continues to occur at any stage of the development of a human individual. If we see our humanity equal to that of an animal, then such culling seems acceptable. However, if one believes that each individual, however conceived, is an individual created by God in image above that of an animal then culling remains an afront to God our Creator.
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Richard Darwin Richards
So true! Our society has become so ugly and has no respect for ANY life let alone decency and manners!
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Dawn Moneyhan
The first point is in your first sentence. You are allowed to hold fast to your belief system, however, it is YOURS and does not apply to others. The big debate is over when life actually begins. That is a religious debate and differs from person to person. We live in a nation where we are allowed freedom of (and from) religion. One cannot declare when they believe life to begin as a blanket statement that applies to all people. It doesn't work that way. Among the Christian religions the debate seems to be about which part of their Bibles and what version of the Bible each is using. Some believe it is at conception, some believe it is at "first breath". Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Reversing Roe v Wade takes that protected right away from every woman in the country and hands it over to a lower government to declare for her. Some republicans in Congress are already talking out loud about making it a federal ban as soon as they hold the power again to do it, at which time they will be declaring their belief system as law over every woman in our country.
I don't much care who believes what, so long as they aren't hurting others around them. This is a constitutional right that is being invaded and taken away from us.
Also just a reminder.. we ARE animals too. We are 1 species of many millions of species that inhabit this planet. We are not always (or often, it seems) the smartest species. We are not better than any other species. We only have 1 planet to share together. Christianity has not only condoned but led the genocide of peoples around the globe since its conception. Then it spend the rest of history covering it up, hiding it, ignoring it, and eventually attempting to justify it somehow using excuses. If Christianity had won then I wouldn't exist today. If Christianity had won my entire family would never have existed.
I find it hypocritical to defend Christianity and all of its atrocities and then claim any kind of "pro life" stance. I could offer you nightmarish stories of how Christianity helped raise me to hate myself, to believe I was dirty and uncivilized, to be pitied and molded to save me.
As for invading church services... I am remembering the abortion clinic bombings and protests where healthcare facilities were invaded by angry Christians who caused a lot of destruction and death. These people are making a peaceful statement and not hurting anyone. How can the church even begin to complain?
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Richard Darwin Richards
You are definitely acting like an animal! You do have a choice not to!
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Lady Celynia
Take religion out of it. What does science say about the development of life?
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John D. Partin
Dawn Moneyhan, those who have committed all of those atrocities and helped raise you to hate yourself and think that you are dirty and uncivilized and to be pitied and molded to save you weren't following Christ's teachings to do unto others as they would have others do unto them or love their neighbors as themselves or do unto others as they would do unto Christ himself. So, all of Christianity can't reasonably be blamed and hated for what people who weren't even following Christ's teachings did to you or others. That is no different than some black people hating all white people for what some of them have done to other black people or themselves or some white people hating all black people for what some of them have done to them or other white people. Or some Jews hating all Germans because of the Nazis or any people hating all people in another group. Their hatred and your hatred are all bigotry and the only way for them and you to be delivered out of that is through forgiveness and not lumping all people in a group together. Those people who did that to you and similar or worse things to others were false apostles and wolves in sheep's clothing and whited sepulchres, who Satan puts into the Church for just such effect as it has had on you: to discredit and defame the whole Church. Why is it right for people to take out their revenge on church services for what those few or even many who, unthinkingly, were unloving toward abortion clinics and not Christian did to them?!! The Church does have the right to complain against that, the same as you would have the right to complain against anyone's disrespecting or harming you because of what other people have done. Biologically, we may be just other animals, but there is much more to us than just our biology and physiology, and that is our souls and spiritual nature. The downside of thinking of ourselves as "just animals" to "justify" our own pleasures and ignoring God is that it ignores God and "justifies" treating people as "animals" for their enslavement, persecution, torturing, murders, abortions, and denial of basic human rights and freedoms, but Satan gets people to focus only on the "good" side of viewing themselves and others as "animals", while ignoring the bad side. Every woman who ever gets raped or child who is molested has that happen because those who did that to them thought of them as "just animals" and "things to be used for their pleasure". So, how can any feminist and self-respecting woman just go along with that "thinking" that "people are just animals", which causes so much misery and violation for so many other women, children, and even men?!! "Man is just another animal" is the Seventh Satanic Statement in The Satanic Bible, which should tell you and all other truly thinking people that it can't possibly be right thinking. All true Christians are pro-life and it isn't hypocritical for them to take that stand, since they aren't responsible for what others have done at abortion clinics. God bless you and give you healing from your pain and help you to forgive.
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Amber Fry
Right but you cannot murder what isn't alive yet. In the days these things were written life began at first breath, not in the womb. Using the bible to try to justify this only shows people do not know the bible as well as they think they do.
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Richard Darwin Richards
Jesus said I knew you when you were in the womb. How much clearer can that be?
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
Overpopulation is responsible for each of the following major social problems; ergo those steadfastly opposed to the use of birth control are clearly enemies of all societies— including their own.
To oppose population control, in this day and age, is to participate in the extinction of the human species.
Snoring culprits (besides the arrogant Roman Catholic Church) the Southern Baptists; MAGA’ers; White Christian Nationalist Evangelicals; the GOP in general, and the GOP in particular, all major supernatural religions, apathy, ignorance, superstition — and a complete lack of awareness of anything to do with demography.
Religion brought about the “Dark Ages” and now, due to its refusal to readily observe how overpopulation is destroying the Earth — humankind is in the verge of extinction.
There is absolutely nothing supernatural that any human mind can comprehend — yet about seven billion humans admit to a beliefin the supernatural
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Teresa de Jesús Cruces
Hello everyone,
Disagreement should never be mistaken for disrespect. People are allowed to disagree with each other. Until we better grasp the conditions for mutual understanding, our disputes are unproductive. Unplanned pregnancy is a significant problem in our society. Those who oppose abortion think that the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to make it (Illegal). Thousands of women die worldwide from unsafe abortion, and numerous others suffer grave injuries ( hemorrhaging, infections, etc.). These have nothing to do with religion. It has to do with cultivating our Society; it is about the lack of education on family planning and related issues. Community family planning should be central to achieving a low abortion rate. This way, unwanted pregnancies would be reduced through successful strategies ( sex education, family planning, etc.). The world needs to educate itself in another way; having a better understanding of the evolution of our consciousness. Peace Profound Blessings Teresa www.luzimperium.com
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Lady Celynia
I agree. Education is key. Unfortunately we have thousands of years of conditioning to fight if we ever hope to fix this. Religion should be a lovely beautiful part of life. It should not be part of politics. Women should never have to lack family planning tools and medications. No one should ever be made to feel less than for being pregnant and giving birth. We must realize human beings are designed to have sex, generally at what is considered a young age today. Being pregnant and giving birth should never be seen as ruining someone’s life. Our thinking must change along with the almost complete lack of support for women.
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Amber Fry
In the same token needing an abortion should never be used to make a person feel less than either. There are far too many things in a person's health and life that makes the availability necessary. It is a heart wrenching decision to make in the first place. Support in that direction should also be acceptable.
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Keith Graham Ainsworth
No, Jesus was born to an unmarried mum who could have aborted the fetus, good thing she didn't
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David Benrexi
We have killed so many times declaring it is our right that we make the Nazi Holocaust seem like a minor irritation. Today, another 3000 innocent children, fully human, will be brutally slaughtered. America made a covenant with death. We are drinking the blood of our own children. Only God has the right to decide who gets to live and who must die. This isn't healthcare. This isn't love. We're killing our own children. This is innocent blood.
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Tessa Ferard
There is a time and place for protests. Churches and schools alike are never the place. NEVER I don't care the circumstances.
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David Weller
A Right wing anti abortionist killed Dr. Tiller IN HIS CHURCH in Wichita Kansas. The catholics and their ilk can deal with some protests at their doorsteps. In fact, since they are publicly funded (they pay no property tax, so others get to pay their share), they have no right to be upset when the public takes umbrage at their behavior and pickets their tax free churches.
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Charisse Matisz Cordero
Why Catholics? The majority of polled Catholics (57% last I checked) were pro-choice and vote consistently liberal. Probably because in most areas, like mine,we are mostly people of color and likely to be Democrats. The Evangelical Fundamentalists have been far more vocal against abortion and have a lot of $$$$$$$.
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Charles Thomas Norkus
Wow. Having read all of these comments, it's difficult to know where to start. I'll ignore the obvious "outliers" and focus on those interested in genuinely listening, sharing, and learning. The Didache was written during the late 1st century or early 2nd century as instructions from Jewish Christians to Gentiles who had become believers in Jesus. In the Didache, abortion is condemned. Like some other early beliefs of Christians that became obvious by AD 200 - belief in the Real Presence (of Jesus in the bread & wine), infant baptism, bishops (chief elders) administering multiple groups of Christian believers, etc. - Christians today can accept that these beliefs (some or all) were corruptions of what the earliest Christians believed, or gosh, maybe they got it right and we modern Christians might be off base. (An acorn is not meant to stay an acorn.) Even so, regardless of any religious beliefs, does anyone really believe that a fertilized human egg will result in anything but a human being? I agree with those who called for more education, literally knowledge, about the human body, and also moral education that would include the value and place of sex (e.g., Tim McGraw sings, knowing the difference between sleeping with someone and sleeping with someone you love), accountability of partners to each other, considering beforehand the consequences, and accepting to live responsibly with one's actions. This (is about to sound really naive but) would result, I believe, in fewer people seeking abortion for convenience sake, and increasingly limit it to only emergency situations.
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Daniel Gray
As long as they were not causing any problems and as long as they were not blocking a public sidewalk or entrance to the church or harassing the people wanting to go into the church, there shouldnt be a problem. ON the other hand the second they start any of the above, then they get told to leave or else as a persons rights do not stop because it ticks off someone else.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Whatever happened to the baby that Jesus and St. Judas had together. I bet one of those hermaphrodites got a secret abortion.
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Nicholas J Page
Its a woman's body and personal choice to have an abortion. Keep this sort of subject quiet. I don't want to read about it in the media or social media What upsets me most .Is through no fault of their own .Some women like my wife can't have kids due to a medical problem and I had the snip many years ago as I have 2 grown up daughters. To be honest I hate the A word.
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JPrime
Anti-choice protesters that stand in front of a clinic are not legally allowed to enter the property. But if it was allowed, I can practically guarantee that they would be flocking in like avenging vultures, ready to acost those who have made their choice with all the rhetoric and guilt they can carry in those little flyers! Shoving pictures of the results of dead products of conception and all the misinformation that goes with it into the faces of those already traumatized by what needs to happen. Well, I say “facts before feelings”. Your religious beliefs are just that, your feelings. And while you are entitled to feel ALL your feelings, no one should be forced to live by them. I am pro-choice, but do not agree with abortion as birth control. I do, however, agree that a person has the RIGHT to choose what they do to/with their own body. Period. You can feel what you feel, but standing in the way of someone’s choice because it’s not what you believe or would choose for yourself? No, this is not the way. Everyone is different, everyone’s situation is different and you are not the authority over someone else’s choice. You don’t believe in abortion? Don’t have one! If you’re a guy, do your part to prevent abortions: have a vasectomy. Does that thought make you uncomfortable? Hmmm…I wonder why that is…
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Richard Darwin Richards
To add further rights to our bodies , our choice, vaccines and masks should not be enforced against our will!
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Amber Fry
Last time I checked pregnancies were not contagious. The virus is, and deadly to many. Not getting vaccinated is a choice but that goes with choosing to self isolate so you don't catch or spread it and masking up when in public for the same reason. When it affects only you, I'd agree. When it affects society on the whole, sorry, but no, I cant in good conscience agree. People who care about others make better choices.
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Richard Darwin Richards
Abortion is not healthy for the baby or the woman's body or society yet you condone that. A cold is just too much for you to take people's freedom of choice away?
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Newman Millhollon Turner
Jesus flipped a few tables in the Temple's courtyard. Some of those who witnessed Him do it were outraged.
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Lionheart
Yes, I think I read that story in that book. I never quite got into the plot of that book. It seemed to be all over the place at times. I wonder if there is any truth to any of it? I doubt we'll ever really know.
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Richard Darwin Richards
It has survived and thrived for 6 thousand years so I believe it will be around for awhile.Read Revelations and it is very accurate with where we are currently.
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Lionheart
Yes, it’s amazing how ignorance, and lack of education, can survive on superstition, and fear.
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Richard William Mc Peake
Evil and Satin has power, and these protesters are vessels. They, protesters, are losing this battle. This choice is to be returned to Statehood powers. Only evil would disrupt a service inside their house of worship. Notice, they are not doing the same to Jewish temples or Muslim services- knowing the attendees may not be so cheek turning. Being a woman does not remove the responsibility one has to the Creator God. I believe everyone needs to insight RESPONSBILITY to our Creator.
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Robin Lynn Frank
No religion has the right to impose its beliefs on those who do not share those beliefs. Since churches are seeking to influence political decisions, I see no reason that churches should not be taxed.
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Ellie_Loves
Honestly, Yes! I 100% back their rights to protest when these bills are being fueled by extreme right wing evangelicals. No one should hold power over a women's body, much less a religious sect that does not represent a considerable amount of the population. These dark age beliefs are holding us back from truly evolving. But when white nationalist are pushing to impregnate women and children to further their agenda and species is a disease that needs eradicating. Even the bible states that life begins at first breath, not an underdeveloped zygote floating in embryonic fluid. It is okay to have different beliefs and be Pro Life, but once you cross a line and start inflicting your beliefs on another human being the gloves come off because you crossed a line. Stay in your own lane.
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Terry Barnett
Correct me if I am wrong but taking a side pro or con is just an opinion of the preacher. He can not be speaking for the whole church. The greatest gift god gave man was the freedom of choice. As for the walking inside a church and distrusting service, that is out of order. If they want to stand outside and whole a corner and wave a banner then fine but entering a church is disrespectful to god and everyone.
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Raymond L Born Jr
I am all for burning of all churches and all for abortions! There is no such thing as jesus christ, its just a damn myth!!
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Rev Mary
your violence is tragic and must be a terrible way to live with such hate
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Lionheart
But not as violent as that God of the Old Testament that killed all those first born little children, or those he drowned.
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Rev Ned
No.
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Richard Lee Cornell
Want to make the religious churches mad. Tax them as a corporation in the State they are located in. I pay State corporation taxes on my 501(c) (3).
Me think that all should also pay their fair share.
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Lari
Churches seem to feel perfectly justified to invade the legislative process in an effort to force their views on everyone else, so I think everyone else should feel perfectly justified in invading their houses of worship. It's the churches who violated that boundary first, not the citizenry. If they minded their own affairs they would be left alone. I think everyone else should feel justified to invade their private, sacred spaces until they leave our private, sacred spaces--our bodies--alone.
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Michael Tracey
"Respect" is really the concept here. I have no problem at all with protestors having their say outside. That's their constitutional right. I will defend that right with my life if necessary. However, there are limits that MUST be observed in all of these cases, and a protestor interrupting another persons devotions is closer to violating the right of free speech than it is to exercising it.
Having a right to free speech that is guaranteed in our body of law does NOT mean that you as a protestor have a right to prevent some one else from exercising his or her own right of free speech. And respect is the cornerstone upon which your rights and mine must be built. We must respect each other's rights or our world will be plunged into the sort of chaos that very few alive today can remember living through.
Respect for each person, as a person no matter how they are different from you. You do not have to live like that other person, you don't even have to like that person, (Though I wish that you would try) but having respect for them is they key to living in a just and peaceful world. Respect provides a path to empathy, empathy to understanding and understanding will lead to peace.
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Gayle Morris
I believe that any man that impregnates a woman that he is not married to should be immediately castrated. Problem solved. Women don't get pregnant on their own & I believe that castration would end the war on abortion. If women don't have a say over their own bodies, it follows that men shouldn't either.
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Donna J Enneking
Places of worship are not places to protest. They are sacred ground and it is very disrespectful. If you want others to respect you and your opinions, then respect them as well. I believe we are asking the wrong questions and abortion shouldn't even be up for debate. God gave man/women, dominion - pure and simple. That starts with one's own body. No other human being, religious group or government has the right to usurp that.
Reading through these comments breaks my heart. We are a broken community.
Eric, if we all agreed with each other this blog wouldn't exist.
It's not the disagreement I take issue with, it's the lack of civility. Some of these comments are nothing but hate and vitriol, well beyond any value to debate.
Well said
I am saddened by the hate speech as well. The apple hasn't fallen far from the tree.
It makes one wonder why Jesus would ever come back to this!