Jesus healing a woman in a miracle
The gospels are full of Jesus performing miracles.

You’ve heard of Jesus turning water into wine, but have you heard of him taming fire-breathing dragons?

The Bible is full of miracles performed by Jesus. It was kind of his thing. The canonical gospels detail Jesus turning water into wine, curing lepers, restoring sight to the blind, and, of course, being resurrected from the dead – among many other miracles.

But did you know there are a bunch of miracles left out of the gospels? If we go beyond the canonical gospels and look at the New Testament apocrypha, particularly the infancy gospels, there are dozens of miracles performed by Jesus that didn’t make the Bible.

Here are ten miracles performed by Jesus you might not know about.

10. Jesus Tamed Dragons

In the Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew, Joseph, Mary, and Jesus fled to Egypt because King Herod, having been informed a baby will replace him as king, ordered the slaughter of all boys under two. They sought shelter in a cave, but it turned out to be full of dragons. Everyone was afraid, but Jesus easily tamed the beasts and commanded them to hurt no man - which they obeyed.

9. Jesus Turned Clay Into Birds

In the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, a five-year-old Jesus is playing in a brook when he fashioned twelve sparrows out of clay. When Joseph arrived at the brook, Jesus clapped, and the clay sparrows came to life and flew away. 

8. Jesus Stretched a Board

Later in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, Joseph is crafting a bed for a rich man. During construction, Joseph noticed that one of his wood beams was cut too short. Jesus took the short beam and miraculously stretched it to the proper length, and his father kissed and praised him heartily.

7. Jesus Purified Water

Jesus restoring sight to blind man in miracleThe Infancy Gospels of Thomas recount a very young Jesus purifying water from his words alone, making water from the flowing pools of a brook safe to drink with just his words.

6. Jesus Revived a Little Boy

Again in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, one of Jesus’ playmates, a boy named Zeno, falls off of the upper story of his house and dies. Jesus jumped down from the roof and stood over the boy and resurrected him there on the spot.

5. Jesus Cured His Brother’s Snake Bite

In the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (are you noticing a pattern here?), Jesus’ brother James is collecting wood for a fire when he was bit on the hand by a venomous viper. He seemed destined to perish then and there, but Jesus breathed on the bite wound, and the venom was neutralized. Also, the viper exploded just for good measure.

4. Jesus Produced a Feast From a Single Grain

In the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, an eight-year-old Jesus goes with Joseph to sow their wheat, but their yield is weak; They disappointingly only had a single grain. But Jesus miraculously turned the single grain into an entire meal, and they invited the poor of their village to join them in the feasting.

3. Jesus Made Three of His Disciples Immortal

In the Book of Mormon, Jesus makes three of his disciples immortal, granting them life until he returns for the Second Coming. Technically, that means that members of the LDS church believe Jesus's disciples are still walking the Earth today!

Over the years, people have reported encounters with kind older men who have stopped to help change a tire or assist lost travelers. These men supposedly had a holy essence about them, but there's no evidence they were actually immortal disciples in the flesh. 

Jesus cursing fig tree in miracle
Jesus cursed a fig tree for not having any figs.

2. Jesus Cursed a Fig Tree

This one is actually in the Bible, in both Matthew and Mark. In Jerusalem, Jesus approached a fig tree in search of fruit. The tree was covered in leaves, meaning fruit should be within, but there was not a single fig to be found. Jesus then cursed the tree, causing it to wither and die. This particular miracle is often taken as a parable, with various interpretations.

1. Jesus Cast Demons Into Pigs

This is another one from the canonical gospels. As recounted in Mark, Jesus met a possessed man. When performing an exorcism on the man, Jesus asks the demon’s name, to which he receives the reply “my name is Legion, for we are many.”

The demon(s) beg Jesus not to expel them but to send them into a nearby herd of swine, which Jesus does. Then the pigs – an estimated 2,000 in number – began rushing down a steep bank and fell into the sea, where they all drowned. 

Did These Miracles Really Happen?

The short answer: nobody knows for sure, but most Christian teachings view them with a hefty dose of skepticism.

The miracles on this list are all sourced from accounts of Jesus’s life written long after his death. However, there are lots of different writings about Jesus and the supposed things he did – and only a small portion of them are considered canonical. 

When the compilers of biblical texts first gathered writings to include in the sacred canon of the Bible, they had to be selective in what they chose to include. This led to considerable debate about which writings were genuine and which were embellished or made up altogether.

What Are the New Testament Apocrypha?

The stories that didn’t pass the sniff test are sometimes referred to as noncanonical or apocryphal.

Many of the miracles on this list were taken from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, which seeks to fill in the gaps between Jesus’ birth and his adult years. 

This text is pretty firmly considered noncanonical by dominant Christians denominations. Over the years, some have even classified it as heretical, due to its depiction of Christ as having supernatural powers… and quite a nasty streak to go with them. 

For example, an early Infancy Gospel story tells of a child who spills water that a young Jesus had collected. Instead of showing forgiveness (like is taught in the Bible) Jesus channels supernatural powers and strikes the child down, killing him. Jesus later kills another kid – for the great crime of bumping into him – in the exact same way. 

Careful study also led biblical scholars to believe that the Infancy Gospel of Thomas was likely written in the 2nd or 3rd century A.D., centuries after Christ’s death, which cast further doubt on its authenticity.

Still, some of the miracles performed are at least mentioned in other texts – the story of Jesus breathing life into clay birds also appears in the Quran (5:110), for example. 

Regardless, the early church ultimately rejected the Infancy Gospels from inclusion in the Bible. And it was far from the only rejected text. A few other writings considered noncanonical include:

  • Gospel of Marcion (mid-2nd century)
  • Gospel of Mani (3rd century)
  • Gospel of Apelles (mid–late 2nd century)
  • Gospel of Bardesanes (late 2nd–early 3rd century)
  • Gospel of Basilides (mid-2nd century)
  • Gospel of Thomas (2nd century; sayings gospel)

That’s only scratching the surface; the list of historical texts not included in the Bible stretches much further than that. 

How Should Noncanonical Texts Be Viewed?

Does that mean such writings should be disregarded altogether? On this question, biblical scholars are conflicted. Some argue that because the stories themselves aren’t genuine accounts of Jesus’s life, it is best to simply ignore them and focus on the canonical texts.

However, others say that there is value in studying noncanonical writings. Even if the texts aren’t exactly in tune with the Bible in its traditional form, they still contain helpful lessons that can be learned from, these scholars suggest.

What is your reaction – how do you think we should view noncanonical texts? And what do you make of these supposed miracles Jesus performed?

69 comments

  1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

    1) brainwash children from birth 2) tell them about hell, demons, fire 3) if they don't believe, they go to hell 4) if they misbehave they go to hell 5) let everyone you know know about hell and demons and fire and SATAN 6) never question the word of Dog, you'll go to hell 7) if someone tries to show you why your belief is false...it's SATAN and you'll go go hell 8) give as much money to your church as you can, pastor does hard work spreading around the BS 9) all other religions are false and spread and encouraged by SATAN 10) only socialize with people who believe exactly like you, that what SATAN can't get into your head 11) just by saying the name SATAN shows SATAN that you love him 12) SATAN is real, SATAN is LOVE, SATAN want's what's best for YOU PRAISE SATAN

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      @Rev. Dr. Father JJ Well said.

      1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

        Thank you

    2. Rev. Howard Slayton's Avatar Rev. Howard Slayton

      People love every religion except Christianity. I don’t get it? Just hate on all the Christians. It will be fun!

      1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

        Playing the victim card I see. Okay so, let's take a look, shall we. Are the jews, muslims or hindus calling for removal of books in schools and libraries (in the US!)?

        Are the jews, muslims or hindus constantly crying about how they don't get special treatment (in the US)?

        Are the jews, muslims or hindus constantly trying to sneak their religious beliefs into schools (in the US)?

        Are the jews, muslims or hindus constantly trying to sneak their words or statues into public places (in the US)?

        Are the jews, muslims or hindus constantly trying to use their holy book to make laws and rules (in the US)?

        Are the jews, muslims or hindus constantly trying to find ways to repress, marginalize, punish and make illegal LGBTQ (in the US)?

        Are the jews, muslims or hindus trying to control women's bodies and reproductive rights (in the US)?

        every since cheeses crust was nailed to a tree every cris chen since has been battling to be martyred

        1. Rev. Howard Slayton's Avatar Rev. Howard Slayton

          I feel that you sound really ignorant with your comments. And I don’t mean that to hurt your feelings.

      2. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

        @Rev. Howard Slayton Reason Christens are hated by so many people is the lies and misinformation they preach. In congress we have a Christians who is telling Congress the Jews have space lasers and they are causing all of the wild fires in California and in food processing plants. The Jews are trying to create a massive food shortage. Fact check me and hopefully you believe it's a lie being told by a Christians.

        Young people are hearing all of the stories of Christians pastors, priests and bishops rapping and molesting children and women and want nothing to do with the religion. They also see have Christians treat women, people of color, people who are LGBTIQA+.

        People hear about the financial scandals and rip-offs going committed by Church leaders and realize there is no God and that religion is just a scam. Look at the Mormon church which just got busted for hiding $200 Billion dollars from church member and the US Government for over 25 years. That money was give by church member to feed the hungry, house the homeless and assist those in need. Out of the $200 Billion dollars only 0.005% was spent on those causes.

        People especially young people are tired of being lied to and being deceived by Christians. They also see how Christians are spreading hate and violence. Would you want to be part of an organization that promotes haltered, violence, lies and deception?

        Don't take my word for it... Take a look on YouTube, TikTok and Facebook. There are millions of ex-Christians saying why they left left there religion and want nothing to do with it. Having lost their faith, they their lives have improved. They love life without religion and they are spreading the world of how much better your life is without religion, especially the Christian and Mormon religions.

    3. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      One man's heaven is another man's Hell, and vice versa. I think I'll stay out of heaven and Hell, and go to the Summerland. Regardless of whatever it's called, I've been given front row seats, for me and my minion, to watch the holy priest of St. Judas (Judas Priest), and a few others, perform live throughout eternity. Now that's what I call being in Heaven!

    4. Daniel-David's Avatar Daniel-David

      Fascinating, I can’t tell which side of the fence you are on?

      Are the devil and Satan the same or different?

      In the first chapter of Job, God and the devil make a bet, ‘skin on skin’ settles the bet! Does that mean they both have skin?

      Fire and Brimstone, what’s the source of that?

      When Jesus descended into hell, was the devil there?

      Are Satan, the devil and evil the same or similar?

      When the rain falls on the just and unjust who get the credit or the blame?

  1. CB Cuff's Avatar CB Cuff

    All possible if you believe in the bible, the book of myth, magic and metaphors.

    1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      And one has to wonder what you are doing on a religious site if all you do is complain?

      1. John P Maher's Avatar John P Maher

        SAME AS YOU, DANIEL GRAY !

        1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          Not complaining, I am educating you as I use facts and figures to back me up, unlike you who uses opinions from the darkest recess of your mind.

          1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

            No you don’t always use facts, Daniel. You sometimes refer to using only faith, which is part of your belief structure, devoid of demonstrable facts. Just saying, and correcting you.

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            1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

              Sorry Lion, I do. And I tell you where I got them from unlike you.

              1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Ohhhh, so you’ve suddenly stopped relying on faith then have you, Daniel, or is it only when you don’t have any facts to back it up?

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            2. Daniel-David's Avatar Daniel-David

              LionHeart,

              We all use faith in all aspects of our life. Faith and belief are different. I have faith that:

              1.) There is a eternal God that is the creator and sustainer of all things.

              2.) I believe the God of my understanding can take care of the details. 3.) I know that God exists the same way I know love exists. You can see it, feel in, be in it and know it’s all around you. The energy is unlimited and it’s the fingerprint of God on our soils.

              1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Thank you for explaining the feelings you get that you like to believe is associated in some way from your god. That’s totally okay. Others of other faiths and religions around the world get those exact same feelings that tell them it’s also the fingerprint of their god.

                I even have a friend that was on hallucinogenics that got great comfort from it, and claimed he could get in contact with his god, and that was okay too. It’s amazing how the brain works. Thanks for your comment.

                🦁❤️

      2. CB Cuff's Avatar CB Cuff

        Not complaining, just stating facts. 'Faith' does not confirm reality. Schizophrenia is not limited by religious beliefs alone. But, it is predominate among most with a fanatical world view that the bible is truthful.

        1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          And again thats YOUR OPINION and not based on fact or science.

  1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

    It’s laughable isn’t it, and people actually believe this stuff, and I think it’s because they’re scared that it might not be true, because if it is true, they belief they will go to hell for doubting it all, so they hedge the fence, just in case. It’s called religious blackmail. Most religions use this tactic.

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    1. Pamela Renee DeSalvo's Avatar Pamela Renee DeSalvo

      I totally concur with your statement that it is religious blackmail. It's sickening is what it is.

    2. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

      actually no. goD knows if a person actually believes or is just 'believing' to play it safe. deciding it's smarter to believe than not is in fact, not believing. and the big girl up/down there already knows so...yeah, eternal hell for those that think playing black AND red is playing it say. nope, they are going to hell...well, let's at least let them think they are

  1. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

    Growing up Mormon I would not take anything from that source. As to the others ot is very possible thar they were left out of Cann because they do not really affect our Salvation. Not sure where but I have heard the story of the young boy falling from the roof.

    The Bible itself mentions that there are many miracles performed by Jesus that were not recorded.

    As to my favorite miracle it would be that he gave his life so that anyone willing to acknowledge his sacrifice might have eternal life. No greater miracle than His amazing love.

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      @Colleen McAllister Being Mormon, don't you think the biggest miracle is the First Presidency kept it a secret the Mormon Church has over $200 Billion Dollars in stocks, bonds, shopping malls and real estate to feed the hungry, house the homeless, assist the sick and help those in need? That's your tithing and Fast money the church has. Yet the church only spent 0.0005 % to do the things you and your fellow church members gave the money to do.

      1. Rev Mark D's Avatar Rev Mark D

        Douglas, that is beautiful, $200 billion while children and slave labor live in poverty all across the church, and so poorly educated they are virtually and utterly disabled as children and as adults. The original beautiful con is still alive...got to wonder whose is the most successful long-running con, Mormons or Scientologists? And remember, it's all tax-free.

        1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

          @Rev Mark D Not only is it tax-free some of that $200 Billion dollars IS tax payer money. How you ask? Mormons church members give so much to the church many of them can claim they live in poverty and receive government assistance or your/my tax dollars.

          Not only that the $200 Billion dollars the Mormons have invested in stocks, bonds, shopping malls and real estate they have been able for the past 25 years to manipulate Wall Street and real estate prices in their favor.

          If you are a US tax payer, invest in stocks, bonds or real estate you should be outraged that a tax exempt church is screwing every American in the name of God.

      2. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

        Most everyone knows about the wealth of the Mormon church. Nearly as much as the Catholic church.

        But I am not a Mormon. I left the church when I became a teenager. I was never indoctrinated. My immediate family pulled away at the same time. I am Baptist by practice. And born again Christian by faith.

        1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

          @Colleen McAllister Sorry, thought you were still Mormon. Have you seen all of the anti-Mormon videos on YouTube and TikTok or the Ex-Mor posts on Reddit and Facebook. The stories the ex-Mors are telling especially the women are heart braking. Having left the church they are so much more happy and they are trying to get other Mormon kids out of the church brainwashing.

          At the same time Dallin Oakes has realized this is being a problem and is trying to get Mormon kids married and to have kids right out of high school.

          Would you be interested is sharing your story growing up Mormon and leaving the religion?

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    This stuff goes on everyday. Just visit Las Vegas you can see it for yourself watching Penn & Teller, Piff the Magic Dragon, David Copperfield, Murray or Chris Angel.

    Magic acts at the time of Jesus were just as popular then as they are today.

    As for cursing a fig tree and making it wither and die, I've done that miracle many times and I don't even have to curse.

  1. Bishop William Dusenberry, DD's Avatar Bishop William Dusenberry, DD

    Ernest Haeckel, in his "The Riddle of the Universe" noted that "there is nothing supernatural in the Universe, that the human mind can comprehend." ergo, miracles, by definition, are supernatural -- ergo, they are incomprehensible -- except to those brought up to believe in miracles in order to gain access to a mythological Christian Heaven -- in which one can reside for ever and ever -- as long as they accept the mythological son, of a mythological Christian God, and now (according to the GOP) have never voted for anyone who's not a MAGA'er.

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      @William Dusenberry Ernest Haeckel's "The Riddle of the Universe" is a wonderful book. A must read for every Christian. Christians love to talk about his embryo pictures and tell false stories about them.

  1. Sharrell Ronald Taylor's Avatar Sharrell Ronald Taylor

    I just don’t understand why so many negative comments. We all have a right to believe what we want. If you don’t believe or like something that is put on here,move on

  1. Mokgatle Reuben Khuduge's Avatar Mokgatle Reuben Khuduge

    My name is Reuben Khuduge, I reside in Johannesburg, South Africa. It is not true that people across the globe are in favour of all religions except Christianity. The growth and expanction of Christianity comes from our Heavenly Father"The father of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ", whereas the growth and expanction of none Christian religious denominations are merely influenced by the dying men and women.

  1. Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.'s Avatar Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.

    My favorite is taming the dragons. Dragons are easy to tame as long as you NEVER call them "little" or "sweet". It would be a miracle if a little boy had the wisdom to tame dragons.

  1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

    so why are there no dragons?

    1. CB Cuff's Avatar CB Cuff

      There still here, we just call them lizards now. Komodo for example....

      1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

        @CB Cuff Where's the fire?

  1. Dr. Zerpersande, NSC's Avatar Dr. Zerpersande, NSC

    “ What are some of your favorites?”

    That people still believe this nonsense.

  1. Janet Marie Moland's Avatar Janet Marie Moland

    Wonderful book to read is The Gospel According to BIF!

  1. Stella L. Wright's Avatar Stella L. Wright

    I do believe in miracles, but I surely don't understand why so much criticism in these comments, The stories in some of the ancient books may not have been recorded faithfully or accurately, but we need to keep the faith and teach others the great wisdom of the God-inspired men and women who came before us.

    God made us and gave us the right to choose how we believe/worship Him. Just look at all the religions, all of which give us man-made rules for worshipping. Jesus taught us to love others. Loving someone means we accept the differences and the unlovely parts, too. He taught us forgiveness, too. Not so easy.

    Keep the faith, folks. God loves us as we are.

    1. Joe's Avatar Joe

      Hmm, I wonder why so many Christians don’t follow those golden rules? There is nothing but hate in this world, everywhere you look.

  1. P. Keith Benefiel's Avatar P. Keith Benefiel

    Everyone should read "Lamb, the gospel of Biff, Christ's childhood friend". It replaces the Goatherds book of myths.

  1. Ann's Avatar Ann

    People tend to believe or disbelieve based on their own experiences, how open minded they are and how aware they are. Believing also comes with responsibility.

  1. Thomas Roy Lantis's Avatar Thomas Roy Lantis

    James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. I have read everything I can get my hands on to seek the truth; the Bible front to back every word over 40 times; the Book of Mormon many times; the Quran; studied The Early Church Fathers intensively; many of the reformers books; several of the early philosophers, etc.. If you want to use James 1 for your answer, study the subject to the best of your ability. Weigh the pros and cons and make an educated guess. Ask God if you have made the right decision. Ask God if you have made the wrong decision. You can only test the spirit of each question if you ask it. Live the rest of your life believing in the answer to which you have arrived after praying. Since each of us has a different path to live for God we may get different answers to some questions than someone else. As a Christian you are here to serve Jesus Christ, our true King. Where He sends you is where you can do what He needs you to do with the special talents He has given you. Peace to you all.

  1. Rev. Dr. G. Waldron's Avatar Rev. Dr. G. Waldron

    These books were left out, because there were less proof that they were sound writings. We know little about Jesus' early life. Who would really know? Mary and Joseph. Perhaps Mary did pass on stories of Jesus' early life. Maybe some of the stories were true in these books, but just not enough evidence to trace them back.

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      @Rev. Dr. G. Waldron Do you know about the Oxyrhynchus Papyri? The Oxyrhynchus Papyri was found over 100 years ago and contain drafts of the Bible. The Oxyrhynchus Papyri show us the authors of the Bible did not all agree on what should be in the Bible and even made significant changes to the text.

      Here's a podcast about the Oxyrhynchus Papyri https://radiolab.org/episodes/297250-help-transcribe-ancient-papyri

    2. Rev. Jim Sutton's Avatar Rev. Jim Sutton

      Not really. At the Council of Nicaea in AD325, the books the Council decided to leave out of The Bible were chosen because they did not match or support the Council's agenda. The idea about how little something is biblically known is spread all throughout The Bible itself. Those left out books are just like The Bible - - - in most cases all that's known is only in The Bible and not historically. As such, why should The Bible be anymore or less reliable than those books ? Plus, who decides whether or not there's enough proof. As I mentioned in another reply, many things in The Bible are only mentioned once. Does that make them less provable or believable than things mentioned multiple times? Obviously not since multitudes believe in them. And as you say, who really knows.

  1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

    Dont know what the author fable was taking but the only two that are actually known are 1 and 2. The rest are nothing more then a fantasy as this "cough cough" myth maker is making statements that nobody but the author knows about. And if they are unknown as the author claims then where did they find them?

    The Fig Tree is listed Gospel of Matthew, 21:18–22

    And as for casting demons into swine Matthew 8.28-34; Mark 5.1-20; Luke 8.26-39

    the other 8 claims are nowhere to be found. So you have to wonder why he/she/they made them up

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      @Daniel Gray Other stories are from the Bible part 3 otherwise known at the Book of Mormon. You know the Mormons who just got busted for having kept $200 Billion Dollars a secret from church members and the government. And remember YOU contributed to that $200 Billion dollars with your US tax dollars. The Mormon church collects so much in tithings from the Mormon church member the church helps them get on government assistance so they can give more money to the church.

      Mormons just like Christians are sharing what a scam religions are. I don't think Scientology can top the Mormons when it comes to scamming people.

      1. Warren Calvin Wall's Avatar Warren Calvin Wall

        Give Scientology time. They haven't been around as long as Mormons. One day they may rival the Vatican.

      2. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        Sorry but the Book of Mormon is not and never has been "The Bible part 3" except in your opinion. And not trying to be mean but that does not really apply for anything

        1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

          @Daniel Gray Why do you comment about things you know nothing about. Bible part 1 is the old testament. Part 2, new testament. And Part 3 is the Book of Mormon. How come you don't know that?

          1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

            No its clear that when you say about commenting on things you know nothing about, you are speaking about yourself. NO Mormon will admit that their book is Bible part 3 and NOBODY but YOU has ever made that assertion or claim. As a matter of fact I did a google search on the claim that the Book of Mormon is Bible part 3 and I got back a resounding GOOSE EGG for that claim.

            Try again and this time try and make the fairy tale a little more believeable

            1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

              @Daniel Gray Dude are you that daft? The Book of Mormon continues where the New Testament leave off. God told Profit Joe to write the Bible Part 3. Here's the proof you were not able to find.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47TPFnxzp3c&ab_channel=juniperson

              1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

                Oh and BTW, Guess you have not bothered to look as this is a freaking MUSICAL, so what you are doing is trying to use a freaking musical as a fact source? Really dude? And you want to call me daft?

              2. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

                @Daniel Gray Don't you just love the musical? Is there anything that's factually incorrect in the song? BoM is a continuation of the Bible, so it is part 3. And like the Bible it is a work of fiction to control people. You are daft if you don't understand that.

              3. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

                Only in your opinion. But I find it intensely amusing that you would try and use a musical to validate your fantasy

    2. Rev. Jim Sutton's Avatar Rev. Jim Sutton

      Many things in The Bible are only mentioned once. Does that make them less believable or legit? Repetition doesn't make anything more believable or legit. Just because I, or anyone, say something over and over and over and over ad nauseam doesn't make it true, right, correct, or real. I've always found repetition to be the poorest type of argument in proving, or defending, anything. It's like only answering with "Because."

      1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

        No, but the two I mentioned are actually stated. None of the other so called "eight" are mentioned anywhere

  1. John P Maher's Avatar John P Maher

    JESUS H. CHRIST ???

  1. JaZe's Avatar JaZe

    So much exageration and wishful thinking. No wonder fairy tales are still so popular - again wishful thinking since many had their basis in real events which were revamped and beautified.

  1. Warren Calvin Wall's Avatar Warren Calvin Wall

    Give Scientology time. They haven't been around as long as Mormons. One day they may rival the Vatican.

  1. Alice Zimmermann's Avatar Alice Zimmermann

    It’s true that the Bible is full of symbolism, that there are ancient texts/scrolls which were not included, that there have been more than one version of the Bible… but in this modern age of unbridled literary liberty and neo-myth-making, it’s good to distinguish the difference between new stories and long-cherished recorded cultural stories & traditions. That’s why scholarly consensus and organization help us keep historical facts straight. Where’s the bibliography for this “new” information? It’s entertaining and not altogether implausible but it’s nice to know where it comes from.

  1. Bishop William Dusenberry, DD's Avatar Bishop William Dusenberry, DD

    Rev Taylor opined that “we all have the right to believe what we want” — when Taylor should have stated was that “we all have the right to believe whatever those in our tribe (AKA, religion) brainwashed (in Sunday School) to believe.”

    A “Belief” is something incapable of being proven to be based on facts” — and without being capable of believing myth-based religious hocus-pokes, no one would ever be religious.

    Don’t believe me?

    Provide a physical description of the Christin God (in whom you profess to believe) so that your fellow ministers can have some idea of what the hell you're referring to when you mention the Christian God,

    Because the Pantheist God is the same as nature, it’s easy for Pantheists to prove their God — just go out in your backyard and point to everything you can see — then proclaim “everything thing that there is is God” or as the ULC proclaims “we are all one” — which is easily provable,

  1. Annette Andrean Hickson's Avatar Annette Andrean Hickson

    Am not upset all the stories are Beautiful except the killings , am sure there is so much more to our salvors life as also each of us . Maybe one day we will hear it all . We will have all the time in the world 😇

    1. Paul Johnson's Avatar Paul Johnson

      You know there wouldn't be any killings if men would adhere to the plan. Look at David in charge of the nation and not satisfied so takes a married woman as though she was his property and then has her husband killed in battle for what to cover his PRIDE too ashame to admit that he had done wrong. Most things that happen today may seem terrible however when you take another look you see the real picture man not willing to surrender to GOD and lets his PRIDE control him. And as always good and evil has a problem existing together but one day hopefully that will end and there want be any more evil.

  1. Paul Johnson's Avatar Paul Johnson

    I can't start to put into words the foolishness of man. Take a moment to see if you find any benefit of the time wasted on trying to prove one person more right than the next. It just doesn't make sense. Either there is are there isn't a God! For sure something has managed to keep this planet and the rest of the universe togeather, and it wasn't science. Like it are not it's what we have and we should get around to making the best of it. My next observation deals with some who feel like it is okay to twist things to make it fit their situation; by that I mean how in the hell can we re-create(reproduce) if you only want men to be with men are women to be with women. So that some feel like it's their right to trick are abuse children while they are growing up. But some do believe it is their right and it is your right to believe what you want too, but it shouldn't be your right to blame others who don't believe what you do. If this is the norm then get ready there want be anybody left after the next hundred years. So as screwed up as you want to be it just doesn't work except to embellish ones PRIDE which finally graduates to EGO(Easing God Out)( so that you think that you can take GODS place). Just keep it up and you may get what you desire. A loss of words and a loss of life and the loss of your rights to be people who have always wanted another path than the one that was laid out for us. As some call it fiction book. However many don't believe that there is a Devil are God so let's change it to GOOD and EVIL you get to choose. However when choosing remember there are consequences; some are good and some are bad, but you get to choose. I don't get to choose for you so don't blame me for the pitfalls if there be any. And this is just my opinion and your entitled to your opinion but this shouldn't give cause for a dress down; as it has been presented in many of the statements of today.

  1. Susan Colmenares's Avatar Susan Colmenares

    When will we recognize that God didn’t write any books?

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