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The Ohio Department of Education is investigating a homeschooling network with thousands of followers which instructs children to “become wonderful Nazis.”

Logan and Katja Lawrence operate Dissident Homeschool, creating educational materials and lesson plans for neo-Nazis to teach their children how to hate at home.

At first glance, it might look like your average American school work. English, mathematics, history, science – all the subjects you’d expect to see are taught, but it’s all filtered through intense neo-Nazi, white supremacist propaganda meant to indoctrinate.

In these history classes, for example, children are taught that only white Europeans are capable of building societies, and that Adolf Hitler was a hero. In math class, they are taught racist and skewed crime statistics implying African-Americans are criminals.

Even subjects you think would be hate-free are filled with neo-Nazi rhetoric. One lesson plan teaches cursive handwriting through copying racist quotes from Adolf Hitler.

One may wonder how such unconscionable rhetoric is allowed to be taught to children, homeschooled or not. But experts say that these neo-Nazis have found an important loophole: state policies which prevent parents from being compelled to expose their children to materials against their sincerely-held religious beliefs.

Teaching Children to Hate

“I am outraged and saddened,” said Stephanie Siddens of the Ohio Department of Education. “There is absolutely no place for hate-filled, divisive and hurtful instruction in Ohio’s schools, including our state’s home-schooling community. I emphatically and categorically denounce the racist, antisemitic, and fascist ideology and materials being circulated.”

Yet there appear to be very few safeguards from preventing this in the first place.

Ohio law only requires that parents tell their local superintendent they intend to homeschool, provide a brief outline of the curriculum and teaching materials, and agree to instructing 900 hours per year… “unless the topic or practice conflicts with the religious beliefs of the parent.”

It’s that clause which experts say may allow the Lawrences to continue spreading Nazism to children untethered.

“I don't know whether religious beliefs are part of why the Lawrences have embraced this fascist ideology. but to the extent that they are, the [Ohio state] statutes would expressly protect that type of instruction,” explains Carmen Longoria-Green, board president of the Coalition for Responsible Home Education.

Teaching hate, at least at home, is probably legal.

Legal Loopholes

Experts say that home schooling regulations have been left toothless by decades of lobbying from religious groups who want less state interference in what they teach their children.

Young earth creationists, for example, cannot be compelled by the state to teach their children that the earth is billions of years old.

But what began as a movement to prevent children from hearing about evolution or receiving comprehensive sex education now appears to be morphing into dangerous new territory.

Nazis being able to teach fascism to their own children – and call it legitimate home instruction – is now a legal byproduct of the homeschooling system.

It’s unclear where things go from here, but Ohio is hardly the only state where this can happen. 

As one of Nazi organizers herself wrote, “for many states in America, it is so very easy to be in compliance. You send a letter… Just find out what you have to do, and quickly do it. After that, you can sit down and relax, and figure out how you will homeschool the children.”

What is your reaction?

91 comments

  1. Lady Victoria's Avatar Lady Victoria

    This is scary but not something that I am surprised to hear in this day and age. I had hoped that we were past this but as I can see it isn't going away. What happened to love thy neighbor? What happened to loving everyone? Why is there hate everywhere? I don't understand it and I think I would be afraid if I ever did understand all of this.

  1. Dr. Zerpersande, NSC's Avatar Dr. Zerpersande, NSC

    Hey, homeschooling is/was/always has been very popular among Christians. And I’ll wager that some of the rabidly hateful religious right that have made themselves newsworthy since 2016 are/were homeschooling. The religious shouldn’t have a monopoly on isolating their kids so as to be better able to brainwash them.

  1. Larry Mager's Avatar Larry Mager

    Even the "pagani" that I know who homeschool, do NOT teach hatred against "Christians", "Muslims" or other beliefs. Nazism IS NOT a religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is time ALL of us NON nazis get together and contact not only our State, but Federal, Senators and Representatives to put limitations on what constitue "home Schooling lessons!

    1. Jo-Anne Head's Avatar Jo-Anne Head

      actually nazism is a religion. don't be ignorant.

      1. Marion Wolfe's Avatar Marion Wolfe

        Sorry but no it isn't.

        1. Sara Lizabeth Rawlins's Avatar Sara Lizabeth Rawlins

          I agree with you Marion. Nazism is not a religion but an ideology that supports removing others who do not look like them, act like them or believe like them. It is a movement that should have died with Hitler, but apparently those who hate, keep dragging him up out of his Hell grave to aggravate those of us who just want to live out our lives without all the drama these neo-Nazis seem to create.

      2. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

        Actually Hitler and the nazi's were Catholics and had the backing of the pope! They eventually even separated from the pope. Nazism is no more a religion than Republicanism is ... they are political organizations that want to control how you think.

  1. Robert James Ruhnke's Avatar Robert James Ruhnke

    Lawrences should be put in prison for child endangerment. Period.

  1. Rev Ned's Avatar Rev Ned

    Surprised?…Look who they elect in Ohio.

  1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

    My grandfather fought in WWII. The only good nazi, is a dead nazi.

    1. ether_ore's Avatar ether_ore

      So how is your sentiment any different from that being taught by the Nazi homeschoolers? You do not seem to have moved any farther forward in thinking than they have. Your grandfather fought in the Second World War, congratulations and thank you to HIM. What have you done, other than just deciding not to learn anything since 1945?

      I agree that nazism is evil, but they learned from their earlier generations just as you have learned from your grandfather. Just because your grandfather was on the side of the argument (anti-nazi) that people in the US commonly think is/was correct, and remains more popular, doesn't mean wishing for the death of those who don't think as you do is any better. If you truly believe in what you said, and were not just trolling, then in my view there is little distance between you and them.

      1. Marion Wolfe's Avatar Marion Wolfe

        Get the F outta here with your mealymouthed BS. Nazis earned their place and every single one that won't change should be put down.

      2. David Cox's Avatar David Cox

        We don't fight against flesh and blood but against evil spirits roaming around seeking whom they want to devour

      3. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

        it's interesting that in the country where Nazism originated .. it's illegal to promote, or teach it. It's also illegal to show anything from that regime including flags and other 'memorabilia',

        Those following it today believe the SAME things that WW2 was fought over! They believed they were the superior race and inferiors were to be eliminated, Thus the ovens. The movement started with banning then burning books they didnt like, deciding what could be taught and what couldnt and that no one could question them. What the world heard was just what Hitler wanted people to know at first... when he started taking over countries the world got involved.

        Now, people are trying to resurrect Hitler and his cause! The same things are happening today.. and you seem to be defending them!

      4. DubSpell's Avatar DubSpell

        Nazism is a closed system. It will not evolve or change. It is self-sustaining and irreverant toward its own environment which is why there are very few former nazis in existence. Anyone looking to "tale over the world" should indeed be taken down as their obvious perogative is to take others down. These types of systems and their propagators should be destroyed as they are not designed nor inclined toward openness or growth- this will NOT die or change on its own and what you say is completely oblivious.

        1. Kurt Werger's Avatar Kurt Werger

          Like the song goes "every body wants to rule the world" and you just proved it. You essentially say that coercion should be used to eliminate an idea with which you disagree! So now how is your m.o. different from the Nazis? Besides, you say that they are insular and self limiting. Why not focus on overcoming evil with good - instead of with a different kind of evil.

  1. Carla Jakola Smith's Avatar Carla Jakola Smith

    Nazism. I firmly believe in our First Amendment. Yet First Amendment Rights do NOT protect you from Hate Speech that brings harm to others based upon specific classification - race, religion, national origin, sexual identity, and disability.

    Nazism specifically calls for extermination of persons of color, non Christians, LGBTQ citizens and individuals with physical and mental disabilities.

    The United States of America should follow the lead of European countries and OUTLAW everything related to Nazism.

    The United States hasn’t come to terms with their OWN GENOCIDE OF THOUSANDS OF NATIVE AMERICANS and yet we allow citizens to STILL CALL FOR OUR EXTERMINATION under the 🇺🇸.

    When we FAIL to learn from our history; we are DOOMED to repeat it. Karma works like that.

    1. Kurt Werger's Avatar Kurt Werger

      As soon as you start down that path, you create a weapon that unscrupulous people can use to silence opposition to their views. For instance, if I am aligned with the prevailing ideology (which has, historically, been wrong as often as not) and I don't like what you have said, I can censure you by labeling your ideas as "hate speech." You're ok with that? Because that is exactly what it will always eventually come to - regardlessof who isincharge. Focus on the hard work of inculcating love, justice and mercy to those around you and promoting it in your community. Leave the feckless power hungry politicians out of it.

  1. Rev. MichaelRS's Avatar Rev. MichaelRS

    Great Tread yank they're changing. I hate such extremists.

    Now we just gotta move on to the Marxist/Communist that are infesting the mainstream school system by teaching CRT, or versions of it under many other guises, that say versions white men are oppressors and evil and communism is good and all sorts of other baloney along those lines.

    1. James Riggle-Johnson's Avatar James Riggle-Johnson

      1) CRT isn't taught in K - 12 schools. It's only taught in law classes in college.

      2) Teaching school kids that being different is okay is NOT Marxist/Communistic.

      Why is teaching kids that not everyone is the same a bad thing? It's not WOKE!

      1. Rev. MichaelRS's Avatar Rev. MichaelRS

        Well here's the response to your 1st point. And these are not isolated incidents. Is it happening in various districts across the country. These sre JUST two examples.

        As to your 2nd &; 3rd points, that is OK, but 9 times out of 10 it is wrapped in further socialist/Marxist/Communist Ideology.

        1. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

          Please quote exact references as to exactly where CRT is being taught.. Which class in which school? Not some generalization but actual cases. So far NO one has been able to provide any factual information because it's all MADE UP BS! Remember spreading a lie, makes you a liar!

          You seem to prefer the Fascist/Nazi/Communist ideology that the right is pushing today...

          People are more upset by a man in a dress talking about treating people equally, than a teacher telling kids that it's ok to be racist and to 'eliminate' those they dont like!

          BTW "Woke" means 'Not asleep" to facts and reality!

          1. Rev. MichaelRS's Avatar Rev. MichaelRS

            Here you go...

            https://youtu.be/2CsYUuehW2A

            https://youtu.be/y99RPuOyT8A

            https://youtu.be/INZLuYPOEOs

            There are others.

            1. Marion Wolfe's Avatar Marion Wolfe

              All you've proven is how embarrassingly gullible you are. People who don't have country gravy for brains aren't falling for this BS.

            2. Tom's Avatar Tom

              Fox News regularly publishes disinformation and does not adhere to journalistic guidelines. They have gotten Tucker Carlson out of a lawsuit by claiming Carlson "cannot be understood to have been stating facts, but instead that he was delivering an opinion using hyperbole for effect," after he said it was an "absolute fact" that Karen McDougal "approached Donald Trump and threatened to ruin his career and humiliate his family if he doesn't give them money." https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9

              They've also published doctored photos on their websites to mislead their audience. https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2020/06/15/fox-news-published-doctored-photos-seattle-autonomous-zone-chaz/3188337001/

              They're the definition of fake news. Use a better source.

            3. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

              Remember FOX is an Entertainment network NOT a News network! They registered this way so they wouldn't have to be factual and could say whatever they want to. Try finding a NEUTRAL source like BBC or Scripps for real facts.

              1. Rev. MichaelRS's Avatar Rev. MichaelRS

                So the teachers and school administrators that were captured on video gleefully talking about how they were reworking CRT to be able to teach it without calling it CRT is what? Fake?

                And the various parents, Including parents "of color", showing up at school boards at various places throughout the country complaining about CRT, or by any other name CRT type lessons, being taught in their schools are all what, mistaken and/or paid actors?

            4. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

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  1. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

    This is wrong. If they wish to teach hatred and Nazism to their own children we cannot stop them. But we can refuse to allow them to call it schooling. If the parents won't teach correctly then the children should be sent to public school. Forcefully if needed.

    1. Jo-Anne Head's Avatar Jo-Anne Head

      be careful what you ask for. If they can force one group, they can force another.

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    Why is this an issue? Christians have and still teach and promote hate.

    1. Charmaine Sophia Gilstrap's Avatar Charmaine Sophia Gilstrap

      Not true Christians.

      1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

        @Charmaine Sophia Gilstrap You will find TRUE Christians are actively teaching and promoting hate. And we are now seeing TRUE Christian billionaires funding advertising campaigns which promote and encourage Christian hatred for political gain and financial profit.

      2. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

        The problem is that the 'true Christians' are NOT standing up and calling these people, who teach this, out!

      3. Paul Edward Nunis's Avatar Paul Edward Nunis

        That's the 'No true Christian' fallacy.

  1. Mary's Avatar Mary

    Parents need to be charged with abuse and a hate crime if this is allowed. Charges need to be filled and once they are sitting in jail and risk LOSING their children maybe their tune will change.

    1. Kurt Werger's Avatar Kurt Werger

      Such a very dangerous proposition Mary. Do you want anyone to have the power to label your own ideas as hate speech and take your children from you? I'm sure that there are people in the world who disagree with you on fundamental issues. If they should come to power, do you want them to have such weapons at their disposal to use against your family?

  1. Kenneth Eagle Spirit's Avatar Kenneth Eagle Spirit

    This is monstrous. Teaching children, or anyone else, to hate is a despicable thing. God is love, and that's the best definition of Deity that I've been able to find.

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      God is love? Well, not quite, Kenneth. Did you skip the stories in that book about drowning nearly everyone on earth, which would have included women, children, babies, even pregnant mothers. Not to mention the first born children he killed due to his anger management issue with Pharaoh. I won’t mention his approval of slavery, and his edict that it’s ok to beat them, as long as they don’t die in the first one or two days 🤷🏼

      Perhaps you were referencing a different man made deity?

      🦁❤️

      1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

        God is love. Man hates. Anything that referred to or is the product of hate, was not of God. That is why the bible you quoted is so questioned. That is why the flood story is allegory and never happened. He had nothing to do with killing children or anything that went against His love of all his children just the same.

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          Are you suggesting then that all the stories in the Bible of God of killing the first born children, the condoning of Stoning people to death, and the condoning of slavery and beating slaves, are all allegorical?

          🦁♥️

          1. David Cox's Avatar David Cox

            Lionheart you have no understanding of the Bible. You are a God hater your heart is hardened and you look at all the negative things in life. Something must have happened your life and you blame God. Sin entered into this world and destroyed everything but God made a way to save everyone from it Jesus took our place to die in our place so we could be with him. Study the Bible for your self and ask those questions to God and you will find your answer in the word of God. The bible is a whole and scripture will interpret scripture. Don't pick and choose a scripture and try to discredit the Bible. Read the other scriptures that will shed light on your question. We live in a sin infested world because Adam and Eve sinned because of Satan tricked them all the evil all through the ages is because of the sin from the beginning. God made a way if we accept what Jesus did for us we will go to have eternal like where there we will never die no more pain or tears total love and happiness no more evil or sin

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              Truth sounds like hate, to those that hate truth, David.

              I’ve read the bible, and my head is definitely not in the sand, like so many who claim to have read that book, and claim to understand it all.

              I really don’t want to come across as being rude, because I know you mean well, but…..just the fact that you have accepted the tales of Adam and Eve in that book, tells me of your gullibility. You obviously don’t have any understanding of the science in genetics, which then tells me you don’t have the intellect to understand logic, reason, and critical thought.

              I know you can’t see this but unfortunately, you have been duped. That is what indoctrination does. It closes one’s mind to be able to see what truth really is, evidenced by the science that we have at our fingertips. If we close our minds to science, we put our heads in the sand, insisting that no one can see what you see.

              Epistemology is a wonderful thing, David……if you will allow it.

              🦁❤️

        2. Jo-Anne Head's Avatar Jo-Anne Head

          Lori ann, there is geological evidence showing the flood did in fact happen.

        3. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

          Where do you get your info from? Not from actual historical documents obviously...

  1. Mark Stricklett's Avatar Mark Stricklett

    Gee, does Jim Jordan have something to do with this......

    ;-0)

  1. John P Maher's Avatar John P Maher

    YEH WELL THANKKK YOUR CORRUPT G O Pig - SWINE POLITICOS and THEIR TRAITOROUS VOTERs ALL !!!

  1. Wallace da Silva Santiago's Avatar Wallace da Silva Santiago

    O nazismo e um verdadeiro cancer... nazismo, racismo, classismo, preconceito sao todas maculas psico-sociais de pessoas doentes...

    O triste de gente assim, e que eles tambem estao nas nossas igrejas... cansei de ver homens brancos saindo de perto de negros que se sentam ao seu lado dentro das igrejas

    Inclusive pastores dizendo que nao se deve casar com pessoas de outra classe social ou raca

    vivemos em um mundo enfermo.

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      De hecho, vivimos en un mundo muy enfermo, Wallace, y no veo que mejore en el corto plazo. En comparación con cómo eran las cosas hace 60 años, parece que hemos retrocedido. El crimen parece estar más desenfrenado que en cualquier momento que yo recuerde, y nadie parece estar haciendo nada al respecto, a menos que sea un crimen muy serio.

      🦁♥️

  1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

    I wish there was some way to stop this, but I cant see how as its no different then Muslims who teach their children Islamic radicalization. The third term is “Islamic radicalization”. This is an insightful term as it indicates the type of political change sought by the extremists: radicals promise progressive change according to the political spectrum. and that all people who don't follow the Islamic religion should be killed or forced to live in servitude (slavery). No matter how you look at it all believers and non believers alike have tried to use religion or no religion to their point of view.

  1. James Mounts's Avatar James Mounts

    Learn to hate in home school; learn tto hate in public school; what a choice. Only hope is school choice and private school.

    1. Joe Stutler's Avatar Joe Stutler

      Public school doesn't teach hatred. It would take a seriously stupid enemanozzle to conflate public schools and Nazi homeschools.... seriously stupid indeed. And evil.

      1. James Mounts's Avatar James Mounts

        Joe, judging by the hate dripping from your comment, I would wager you are the product of a public-school education.

        1. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

          So you support parents teaching their kids the glory of Nazism? I went to both public schools and private schools when i was in school... both taught that Nazism is wrong and should only be taught as an evil that needed to be prevented.

          Homeschooling is NOT the place to educate kids today...Parents like those who are talked about in the article have no idea what they are talking about or teaching other than hate of those they feel 'better than' .. and that sounds a lot like what you are saying..

          Many of us had parents who fought in WWII and had friends who were killed fighting against the Nazi's. Today many seen to have forgotten this and think that it never happened!

          1. James Mounts's Avatar James Mounts

            Richard, please have someone read my comment and explain it to you. What I said was both home schoolers and public school teachers can teach hate--the one teaching hate of non-whites, the other teaching hate of whites. At least with school choice parents can move their children away from the hate of the day..

            1. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

              You apparently didnt read my comment... Homeschooling is the primary way hate is taught.. it's the entire point of this entire meme!

              1. James Mounts's Avatar James Mounts

                What an ignorant statement to make-- "Homeschooling is the primary way hate is taught." Projecting one, or some, home schooler's sins onto all home schoolers is intellectually lazy.

              2. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

                Where did I say "ALL"? YOU added that! So stop trying to twist words to support your side. GO back to the top of this and READ what it says please!

              3. James Mounts's Avatar James Mounts

                "Homeschooling is NOT the place to educate kids today...". Those words are yours. I am sorry if I thought you were speaking ENGLISH where denying home schooling denies ALL home schoolers.

        2. Kurt Werger's Avatar Kurt Werger

          Oh - ouch! I'm public school educated! And I agree with you on this. Joe has put his faith in the infallibility and unquestionable benevolence of our beurocrats and public school policy officials. They would never have an agenda other than the good of our children and society...

  1. Robert Gagnon's Avatar Robert Gagnon

    As long as humans are involved there will be hate. Give everyone the same face and they will divide by ideas and principles. In the 60's I was taught in Catholic school that the Irish are all the same so they divided by religion. But that was described as a good war for the Catholics. I think the Nazi's have the same rights as the trans folk with their opinion. In then long run neither are doing their kids any favors.

  1. Robert Hauck, MD, FAAP's Avatar Robert Hauck, MD, FAAP

    It was only a song in a popular musical but Rodgers & Hammerstein got it right. It spoke volumes: "You've got to be carefully taught." Obviously the neo-Nazi understand it well.

  1. Rev. Laurie G. Cleveland RN's Avatar Rev. Laurie G. Cleveland RN

    3. Ok. This is mybtake on it. It's wrong, no matter what way you look at it, ethically, morally it is wrong. Has what history taught us needs to be played out again?

    My daughter met Moti, Jewish boy at 4-H camp in Spencer, MA. As friends do, they write and occasionally meet. The nextvsummer, he went to a camp in Israel. When not there, he spent time with his grandparents. He wentbto an exclusive school in Brookline. The camp that he went to a camp that taught him how to shoot and kill. He did that every summer until he graduated from Mamodidies. All Jews whether they have dual citizenship or not have to serve 2years in the Israeli army. I knew from my ownbexperience and before that, my mum's that yhe likeluhood of marrisge was slim to none, but I wanted her to have that experience. I believe that the onlybway that we can get rid of hate is to teach love. If you approach it from that angle, everything shifts like a kalidescooe.

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      Sadly army training teaches hatred of others and is a form of brainwashing..

      1. Joe Stutler's Avatar Joe Stutler

        You're referring, of course, to the Salvation Army. They do indeed have a reputation for homophobia.

        1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

          Joe Stutler No, I was referring to a country's army, guess I should have used the term milatary to include other branches of service. But in my experience it's the army and marines brainwashing is the worst of all of milatary branches. But I do have to agree with you the Salvation Army should be included.

        2. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          Must be magic living in your house Joe, especially since you seemingly hate everything.

  1. Nicholas J Page's Avatar Nicholas J Page

    FFS leave the past where it belongs there is enough hatred in the world as it is.Make home schooling illegal in the entire world Stop the spread of hate before it's too late.

  1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

    This is nothing new. There have always been fringe sects that teach their own kids and segregate the kids from the greater society. You would probably be just as shocked to hear what they teach in Amish, Catholic, Mormon, or Evangelical schools. And let's not forget right-wing Orthodox Yeshivas. They all teach the kids to despise "the Other".

    1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      and you would be surprised what they teach in public schools when they try and indoctrinate the kids. Here in my state we had teachers flying gay rights flags in their classrooms, and yet demanding that kids with religious sayings on their shirts had to be removed even though the Supreme Court said you cant dictate what a kid wears in school as long as its decent and does not show private areas.

      And then you had teachers taking kids, who had nothing to do with this CRT crap; telling them that they should be ashamed of the color of their skin. When I found this out I went to a board meeting and then demanded they either stop or do the same thing to Black and Spanish students. BOTH of these groups had Native American slaves and the Spanish actually committed genocide in wiping out completely some Native American Nations/Tribes in the South west. So if you are going to try this nonsense against one race, then you better be ready to do it against all races as not one of them has not had slaves.

      1. Robert James Ruhnke's Avatar Robert James Ruhnke

        Comparing a really crap interpretation of CRT and Pride to Nazis? By the gods you’re showing that there is such a thing as ultra stupid, Gray. Pull your head out of your white ass and cite your sources you coward. The difference between being LGBTQ+ and being Christian is that one is not born Christian, one is indoctrinated into it. Also no one is telling kids to feel ashamed. Kids feel shame because they know their parents at home probably exert many racist behaviors. An it’s okay to not fell okay. Also. By kids I mean college students. CRT is a college level course. American history should not be sugar coated as you’re trying to do. To look back at history and feel only good things means you’re not looking at closely enough. As you tend to do Gray. Your cherry picked BS reeks to high heaven as it falls from you mouth.

        1. Charmaine Sophia Gilstrap's Avatar Charmaine Sophia Gilstrap

          You are not correct in that! We are all born Christians, but we choose to follow His word, because it is a choice. Being born LGBT? 75% of the time IS a choice and those people (especially transgender) indoctrinate their children! As well as teachers! I'm sorry, but 2 adopted children of transgender people weren't born transgender, they were taught by their parental figures that it is "normal!" It is NOT normal. I saw a transgender person speaking about getting their children "gender affirming" drugs and it is their right. NO! Leave children alone!

          1. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

            Charmaine, You have the indoctrinated backwards idea of reality. When did YOU choose to be non-gay? If being gay is a choice... there must be a time in your life where you consider being gay to choose one side or the other.. right? By your reasoning you need to be taught to be straight or gay, and you made a choice... But that is NOT reality. People are born with their sexuality YOU want to deny that because of your hate and fear .. not because of reality and facts. Your ideas of "normal'' are NOT normal but misinformed bigoted hate! BTW.. that is NOT a Christian way to think!

          2. Robert James Ruhnke's Avatar Robert James Ruhnke

            That was the second dumbest thing I’ve seen typed today Charmaine. That’s not how being LGBTQ+ works. I was never indoctrinated into that. Accepting someone for who they are isn’t the same as indoctrinating them. An I wouldn’t let you adopt Kittens, let alone a human being. you’re spouting garbage propaganda that doesn’t actually happen. Gender Affirming Care is far more complex than you understand. Besides. There’s extreme cases where cis girls get hormone blockers because they develop too early. An I don’t blame them. You leave children alone. You’re the one corrupting them into being bastards and con artists.

            1. Tom's Avatar Tom

              Now I want to know what was the dumbest.

      2. Kevin Joseph Kervick's Avatar Kevin Joseph Kervick

        Right. We need to be clear whom are the aggressors and whom are the victims.

  1. Michael Patrick Ferrell's Avatar Michael Patrick Ferrell

    Weak parents creating weak children.

  1. John P Maher's Avatar John P Maher

    THE POLITICAL SWINE SCUM MILLIONAIRES LAUGH @ the LAW and STUPID VOTERS, LEGAL NAZI TEACHINGS, TIME FOR ANOTHER CIVIL WAR ???

  1. Alana Charnise King's Avatar Alana Charnise King

    Education has always started in the home. Why is this news? People who are bigots/biased have always taught their family the creed and beliefs they live by at HOME. The homeschooling network is just a convenient way to stay connected and brainwash subliminally as well as outright. It’s funny how the same folks who are up in arms about “CRT” and LGBTQ studies are crickets about this. Nothing about Nazism is religious, but it does go to show that hate will always exist and we see who the main proponents of it come from. Also, for one of the above comments, Latinos are not Spanish descendants, as “blacks” were also here pre-colonially. Both were colonized, so to educate would mean to dispel falsehoods that have been taught for years. The comment is proof that history has been whitewashed.

    1. Kurt Werger's Avatar Kurt Werger

      The HUGE difference is that "wokeness" is being aggressively promoted in our public schools, whereas these Neo Nazi knuckleheads are mostly insular and without any outside support. Roll out a swastika on my school's auditorium stage and you will see this retired Army officer fight through a mob to tear it down. No, if anything, conservatives are showing disproportionate tolerance and restraint.

      1. Tom's Avatar Tom

        Woke : aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

        I would certainly hope that "wokeness" is being taught in our public schools. Meanwhile conservatives are freaking out that kids are being taught that gay people exist or that people of color have historically received lesser treatment than white people in America. How dare our schools teach children the truth!

        FOH

  1. Kurt Werger's Avatar Kurt Werger

    This is the "cost of business" when living in a free society. You can have liberty or you can have coercion; not both. Whether or not people do it in their dining rooms, over dinner, or during a homeschool session, parents will inculcate values in their children. The fascist rhetoric is execrable but so is anti-Christian "woke" ideology. Feckless power hungry politicians always have an ear open for the misguided cry from the public "somebody, do something!!" And just like that, another cancerous piece of legislation is inflicted on us. Let's, instead, combat hatred by inculcating love, justice and mercy (Micah 6:8) in our own children and within our congregations and communities.

  1. Jacqueline Vida's Avatar Jacqueline Vida

    Yeah, you're going to need to back that up with proof! Anyone can say anything (as we know).

  1. Paul Edward Nunis's Avatar Paul Edward Nunis

    So called 'sincerely held religious beliefs' (even though they violate every credal precept of the coopted religion), are a too tempting refuge for every kind of scoundrel... just like faux patriotism, faux integrity, etc.

  1. Andrew B Shatner's Avatar Andrew B Shatner

    Responding to Paul Nunis, Why are we subject to hate ? In the Gospel to Luke, Jesus expresses a perspective that as long as the "Gentiles trod upon Jerusalem" the gentlle nations have come into the Kingdom! The jews recaptured Jerusalem since 67 BC in 1967 AD the sixth day war. I feel everyone can discern the diminishing of Christian faith as well as all faiths since 1967. Jesus concludes his exhortation with "will the Son of Man find faith on earth". Hence, the development from the Apostasy of the Gentiles, Hate!

  1. Robert W Stone's Avatar Robert W Stone

    Is this really surprising given that the former president was a narcissistic, homophobic, misogynistic, racist who took his cues from the dictator of North Korea? I’m sure it makes his tiny willie semi stiff imagining the US troops jack stepping in front of him after making January 6 a national holiday!

  1. Charles Thomas's Avatar Charles Thomas

    Explain the difference between this and the Gay pride or BLM or Antifa forcing their beliefs on others? It would seem that we as humans have lost our faith in others.

    1. Tom's Avatar Tom

      One group are Nazis teaching children to hate non-white people, the other groups are celebrating the acceptance of the LGBTQ+ community, fighting for equal rights for the Black community (particularly in response to disproportionally higher rates of police brutality), and fighting back against actual Nazis who wish to terrorize minorities, respectively.

      Talk about a false equivalency...

    2. Richard Basen's Avatar Richard Basen

      Charles. how many gay's or black people have firebombed a white church full of people or shot one up? And then get praised for it? How many white 'christians' have been rounded up and fed to gas ovens? When did a gay person insist that you had to become gay or tell you that you were inferior because you werent gay?? Remember Anti-Fa is Anti Fascist.. so if you are against AntiFa.. you support fascists!

  1. Father Frederick's Avatar Father Frederick

    Scary. Shocking. And disturbing. However I have yet to find anyone who knows of, or knows those who are either Nazi leaning or hate provoking. Even some of the cases in the courts which deal with children have not even whispered the words or ideas believed to be at the focus of this subject. So forgive my skepticism. And perhaps it's because of the Ohio Department of Education's history of floating falsehoods and casting innuendos that has me challenging the story. I realize that this is a juicy story to some, and especially those who don't understand "thou shall not bare false witness", but the media seems to be spreading this around as hard, or more, than the many of the stories we've found out after 3 to 4 years were made up. I would respectfully say we should decline opinion on something which we have no first hand knowledge of.

  1. Greg Traver's Avatar Greg Traver

    Your comments are speaking so loud that I can not hear the Love you claim to emulate. A wise person once said, "If there be any virtue, if there be any praise, then think on THESE things" I'm not seeing that here so it's time to move on

  1. Wilberta M. Berry's Avatar Wilberta M. Berry

    In case any has been under a rock, the rise of Nazism has been on the rise in America since 2016.

    Why a faction of people would want to emulate a losing group of people as with the rise of the Confederacy in America again is beyond reason.

    However, Nazism is not anything I believe Jesus would be preaching.

    Therefore there is nothing Christ like in any hate moment. So I can without a doubt say these people are definitely not lovers of the Lord.

    So Nazi Homeschooling is nothing less than indoctrination of hatred towards your fellow man of every other race and persuasion since the creator made all men in its image.

    No difference than White Supremecy teaching hatred towards others too. Something you won't find in Jesus' teachings.

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