controversial pro-lgbtq school mural
Can you spot the Satanism?

Is this mural promoting Satanism? You be the judge.

A high school sophomore in Grant, Michigan won a contest to design a mural for a local middle school health center.

The teen was instructed to include “smiling children” and to promote a “stay healthy” message. By all indications, she followed the prompt.

However, not everyone is a fan of the various artistic liberties she took.

Some local parents are outraged at what they claim is a pro-LGBTQ message that is discriminatory towards Christians… as well as some hidden demonic messages. Now, what was intended to be a simple and wholesome message of inclusion by the artist has turned into a flashpoint of controversy for this small Michigan town.

Spot the Satanism

“I put my art up there to make people feel welcome,” explained the artist at a local school board meeting earlier this month.

But some say that the mural is inappropriate because it contains pro-LGBTQ symbols.

For example, one child on the mural is wearing a t-shirt with the transgender pride flag on it. Another student in the mural is in a shirt bearing the colors of the bisexual pride flag, and another is wearing rainbow leggings. 

Other critics turned their focus on something far darker: supposed symbols of Satanism that appear in the design.

Their two main concerns:

1) A demonic-looking face that is incorporated into the center-left of the mural (which the creator says is just a symbol from the popular video game Genshin Impact)

2) A Hamsa hand (a sign of spiritual protection in many cultures) that is tucked away on the left side of the painting.

Those last two points led to accusations of witchcraft against the teenage artist.

"I feel like she did a really good job finding excuses to defend the things she put on," said a local woman, Katelyn Thompson, at the school board meeting. "None of us are that stupid."

Another local woman, Danielle Beight, said that the transgender flag on the mural was tantamount to promoting mental illness in children. "When adults pretend things that are like real life, it's a mental illness,” she said. “We need counselors, we need medication that's going to help bipolar disorder, fix their brains." 

And one man actually accused the mural of being a message of hate toward Christians. 

"We and our administration should embrace that and get all of this hate material out of our schools,” said Nate Thompson at the school board meeting. “Because it is hate material."

Is the Mural Immoral?

Despite the grievances of many, some students and parents came to the mural’s defense.

 "I am a conservative, right-wing, gun-loving American," said a local woman named Tracy Hargreaves. "But I've never seen more bigoted people in my life. We have an array of people in this little town, and I'll be the first one to support our Christian families. But we're not the only ones here."

Another student who identifies as queer explained that, as someone who is bullied in school, the mural makes them feel included and seen. Directing their comments toward outraged parents, they said “maybe you should be more concerned with your children's behaviors, instead of what art is on the wall.”

After the meeting, the district announced that they’ve reached an agreement with the artist to remove certain elements that weren’t part of the initial design pitch, like the "demonic" mask and the Hamsa hand. The LGBTQ symbols – which were part of the initial design, and were approved previously – will remain.

Citing their commitment to “civility, respect, understanding and inclusion,” the school says they simply will not tolerate “discrimination, harassment or bullying whether in word, deed or on social media.”

What do you think? Were the symbols appropriate for a school mural, and were the reactions from local parents inappropriate?

148 comments

  1. Rev. Dr. G. Waldron's Avatar Rev. Dr. G. Waldron

    Give me a break! Why do so many people always have to find bad? Just looking for something wrong is a brain problem, I think.

    1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      Christians do it all the time with the Bible. They can twist a quote in the Bible into anything they want.

      1. Susan Laschiazza Russell's Avatar Susan Laschiazza Russell

        Non-Christians do it all the time too. Human nature turns every minute of every day into personal reality. We are all in the same storm, not the same boat.

        1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

          @Susan Laschiazza Russell Why is is Christians do it more and are louder about it?

          Christians are in one heck of a wicked storm of their own creation and belief. Non-Christians just go about enjoying life. Only storms they encounter are the ones created by the Christians.

          Hope you know today's young people are looking at what the Christians are doing to society and our country and cringe. They want nothing to do with the Christian religion and Christianity and have a wonderful life without the storm.

      2. Susan Laschiazza Russell's Avatar Susan Laschiazza Russell

        Non-Christians do it just as much as Christians. Human nature morphs actual reality into personal reality every minute of every day to benefit (or shame, upset, depress, etc. depending on your mental health status) the individual's needs.

  1. Randall Worcester's Avatar Randall Worcester

    Seems to me that these bible thumpers want people to believe they’re so righteous that they should control what everyone else sees. If you think a gay pride symbol is bad and should be removed, what would you say to the self proclaimed atheist who doesn’t like that fish on your car? Would you remove it and say “ I’m sorry I didn’t mean to offend you” Hell no you wouldn’t! If you’re “so” Christian you would know that Bible you have tells you “judge not lest ye be judged” and judgement is for God when you stand in front of him and explain yourself. Remember the Bible tells you YOU WILL BE JUDGED FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, not what that person next to you did. I’m personally tired of Christians telling everyone they have to live their way. Myself, I’m Christian and I don’t give a hoot if someone is gay or straight.

    1. David Cox's Avatar David Cox

      What do you think Jesus would do?

      1. Olivier Ammour-Mayeur's Avatar Olivier Ammour-Mayeur

        Jesus was LOVE and COMPASSION, he was welcoming to anyone and he would embrasse the LGBTQ Communittee as a group of people asserting LOVE, COMPASSION and INCLUSIVITY!

        That's what he would do!

        1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

          Many people, such as yourself, put "love and compassion" over everything else and over truth, justice, order, and the will of God, but Jesus didn't even accept everyone in his time and tell people that there was nothing wrong with anything that they ever decided to do. He didn't accept the scribes and Pharisees just as they were and say that there "nothing wrong" with their being hard- hearted and only letter of the law people, but called them "whites sepulchres" and "a brood of vipers" and asked them "how shall you escape damnation?". He didn't accept the moneychangers in the temple just as they were and say that there was"nothing wrong" with their buying and selling in the temple precincts, but overturned their tables and drove them out with a scourge and told them "This is a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves!". He didn't just accept the woman caught in adultery as she was, but told her, after he had dispersed her accusers, "Is there anyone here who has condemned you? Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more"------not "Go and go on sinning, the same as you always have". So, the actual Jesus Christ today doesn't tell LGBTQ or any other sinners "Go and go on sinning, the same as you always have" but, the same as he told that woman, "Go and sin no more" and doesn't accept just everything that they do. There is a false "love and compassion", as well as a genuine love and compassion. False "love and compassion" just go along with whatever people want to do and tell them that they are always "right" to do it, and tell them what they want to hear, instead of what they need to hear, in order to be popular with them. Genuine love and compassion tell people the truth and correct them when they are wrong, and don't worry if that makes them popular with those people, but only care that it helps them to avoid those dangers and come out of wrong thinking and actions. Falsely "loving and compassionate" teachers and people are "tickling men's ears with pleasing fables and lies", as Scripture warns us against. You can make up a "Jesus" to suit yourself and after your own image, so that he will fit into the current propaganda and political correctness, but that isn't the real Jesus, who still demands that we reform our lives and bring ourselves into submission to God's will and teachings, not bring God's will and teachings into submission to our thinking and will and political correctness and current propaganda.

          1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

            Many people in here are always saying that the prohibition of homosexuality is "invalidated" because the same people who believe in and promote that teaching aren't following the Biblical laws against mixing fabrics or eating shellfish or other trivialities. Quite obviously, though, homosexuality is a much bigger and more pervasive issue than just some issues peculiar to ancient Jewish culture and so the prohibition of homosexuality is more relevant today than were those other prohibitions in the Bible. You might as well say that because people don't obey or get punished for violating the outmoded and ridiculous blue laws on the books across the country, they shouldn't have to follow or be punished for violating the laws against murder, rape, child molestation, bank robbery, and other major crimes. Likewise, our not following the outmoded laws in the Bible against eating shellfish, mixing fabrics, etc. isn't a valid reason for ignoring and not following the major teaching against homosexuality in the Bible.

      2. J. Lenton's Avatar J. Lenton

        Jesus spent his life associating with the oppressed of his time - poor people, religious minorities, lepers, disabled people, people labelled as 'sinners' by the orthodox religions of the day, and so on (see, among others, Matthew 9:10-11 and Luke 15:1-2), and giving them compassion and solidarity and relief where he could - he healed the sick, fed the hungry, etc. etc., while sharing with them a message of peace and radical non-violence, calling on them to “resist not evil” (Matthew 5:39), love their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45), and go unprotestingly to martyrdom while publicly forgiving their executioners - a tenet he demonstrated through practice when he was crucified.

        If Jesus were around today, he wouldn't be giving sermons in church telling people what 'sins' to hate, or complaining about the symbology of some mural or other. He'd be volunteering at a medical centre or helping out at a food bank or something - bringing not judgement or division, but love and support for those who need it most.

        1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

          J. Kenton, Jesus didn't only care about people's physical needs, but also about their spiritual needs and the state of their souls, since otherwise there was no reason for him to preach the Sermon on the Mount, which was about ministering to people's spiritual needs and not just feeding the five thousand, and he would have used that time spent on preaching in feeding and healing people physically alone. People need to be fed and healed spiritually, too. That is the purpose of preaching against sins that we should hate and against any immoral symbology in painting where it actually exists and any immoral ideas and teachings in literature or political ideologies, such as Communism and Nazism. Otherwise, we could just ignore wrong and immoral thinking until it results in Holocausts and Communist purges and repressions and dictatorships and other crimes and injustices, instead of denouncing and teaching against them and trying to stop them before they get that far. Or we could not preach against any immorality in art and films until the envelope has been pushed of what people will let them get away with and just accept to the point of child pornography and other sick subjects, instead of trying to fight against this immorality before it gets to that point and keep fighting it after it does. Some people go too far in seeing evil everywhere, which is as bad as not seeing it where it does exist, and Satan uses both to make Christianity appear "repressive" to people or make it actually conforming to the world. Jesus didn't just accept the sins of the harlots and tax collectors and other sinners that he associated with because he was with them, since he said that he had come for the sinners, not the righteous (who wrongly believed that they didn't need to be ministered to), but told the sinners "Go and sin no more". He wasn't physically ministering to the scribes and Pharisees when he called them whites sepulchres, but was ministering to their souls, and he was ministering to the souls of the moneychangers in the temple and against their physical interests when he drove them out and overturned their tables and said "This is a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves". So, yes, Jesus would be preaching sermons against sins if he were here physically in the world today and not just ministering to people's physical needs. This "Jesus" who would "only care about people's physical needs" is a false and unscriptural "Jesus", invented by people to have him not deal with their sins and not call anything sin, but only be a humanistic"Jesus" and only be "a good human teacher" and a social advocate and concerned with this world, instead of our eternity in Heaven or Hell.

  1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

    So what's wrong with satan? He gets a bad rep because someone had to be the fall guy for the psychotic, masochistic, misogynistic, homophobic, child-killing, narcissistic, insecure chris chen goad. Ave Satana, let the left hand path guide you

    1. Tamara Oelkers's Avatar Tamara Oelkers

      Right On, Reverend.

      Satan never delivered a single plague or flood that I'm aware of.

    2. Tareq Asfour's Avatar Tareq Asfour

      Who told you Satan/Lucifer was all that it was never all that is this what this Christianity has taught you G’D gave mankind free will. He sent down many angels and sent down many manuals of what is good and what is evil and what to do and what not to do and in the end whenever it comes Lucifer/ Satan as you know well deal with mankind‘s poor decisions so please don’t refer to Lucifer in that manner if you don’t know about him/her please

      1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

        So what you're saying is you are entitled to your belief but I am not entitled to mine? that's not very chris chen of you (or on second thought, maybe it's exactly chris chen of you).

        Anyway you can believe as you wish but you have no right to tell me my beliefs are wrong. Different, sure, not to your liking, okay, but not, no, never wrong.

        1. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

          Not at all the point. The point is not to project your belief onto everyone else. You do you. Live your life the way you feel is right and allow space for everyone else to do the same. No judgment, no condemnation, just do you and give people space to do the same.

      2. Dr. Darryl G Dykes's Avatar Dr. Darryl G Dykes

        No one person or entity can make a person do anything, It is the choice of the doer to do so. Fact I personally take responsibility for what I do. I do not blame anyone or entity for my actions. I pray for guidance and Grace while also seek forgiveness for my sin. I know I am not perfect, I try to live a life that pleases God.

  1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news to jj, but Satan doesn't exist. That concept was created by the church to control people. As to the artwork, It sound like a school that says it doesn't tolerate bullying is guilty of it themselves. they bullied the artist into changing perfectly fine work to cater to scared little bigoted fanatics.

    1. Arnold Eugene Karr's Avatar Arnold Eugene Karr

      Actually,.the character Satan is older than Christianity. In the book of Job, Satan (the Accuser) is a member of the heavenly court who searches out evil or imperfection in humans and reports them to YHWH. The elevation of Satan to semi-divine status may have come from Zoroastrianism, a Persian faith, which teaches there are two gods representing an ongoing conflict between good and evil. If we are going to create gods for ourselves, I think that's a more honest representation of how the world works.

      1. Doc Michael Pepper's Avatar Doc Michael Pepper

        Ah, refreshing. Someone who has actually studied the Bible a bit (and can even refer to the heavenly court. That is what bothers me most. Those who are so so adamant about how they think the Bible reads and what's in it whether that is how it's actually written or not.

        1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

          There in lies an issue that unfortunately clouds people's minds. The book can be interpreted and used differently by just about every reader. Only a minor issue most of the time but cult leaders almost always know the bible inside and out. They then pick and choose what to use to promote whatever their cult dictates to followers. On this thread alone a few responders have used their own interpretations to justify anti-God beliefs.

      2. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

        I didn't know that. Thank you.

    2. David Cox's Avatar David Cox

      I can't believe that so many people hate God that much to talk bad about him like this blog always does. You criticize people and judge people. All of yall are Jesus haters. One day he is coming back for his true church those who truly belive. Not everyone who calls themselves Christian are Christian. Those who don't believe that Jesus died for their sins will be judged by God's law. Turn away from your sins and Jesus will forgive you

      1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

        why do so many people hate Satan? ever think that you got it all wrong and backwards and that Satan is the true path and that your goD and jebus are the path to hell? and stop quoting from your book, it's written by men who looked to control other men. Lucky for you my Satan is neither psychotic nor vengeful and does not care if you believe in him or not. nothing will happen to you if you don't. See...isn't that more pleasant than your beachy, moody, sullen goD?

        1. Candace Sue Singleton's Avatar Candace Sue Singleton

          The chris chen G'd is a jealous one. He used fear to coerce people into believing in him OR ELSE.

          Why give us free will and not let us exercise it? The chris chen G'd has set humanity up to fail. Perfection cannot be achieved because there is no such thing as perfection.

        2. Justin Long's Avatar Justin Long

          Ave Satanas. Ave te ipsum. Well said.

        3. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

          Why do so many people hate Satan? Because of what those who are following him and friends with him (and not just the public relations version of that) show us that he is actually like. Satan's actual followers and friends don't care about what people think about them and what they do or about their image and public relations, and those actual followers and friends of Satan are the murderers, serial killers, rapists, child molesters, genocidal dictators (such as Hitler and Stalin), domestic abusers, and others committing real evil in the world. Those other people claiming to be Satanists while not committing these actual evils are just public relations agents and trying to sell Satanism to the world and make it more acceptable to people. That isn't scapegoating Satan for all of the evil in the world, but just identifying him with what his own followers and friends say that he leads them into doing and what they say that he is all about. You can't have it both ways and Satan is leading people into all of these rotten things, but, somehow, he is better than all of these people!! That won't fly!! Satan can't be non-psychotic and non-vengeful when he is leading people into and inspiring them into committing psychotic and vengeful actions because their leader and inspirer isn't going to be better or nicer than they are. Satan isn't going to reward his followers and friends with a big party in Hell after they die because no people who hate other people even in this world throw parties for them (except a necktie party to hang them or a pig party to insult and ridicule and mock them or a party such as was thrown for Rasputin to kill him), and Satan hates all people far more than any human being could ever hate them, as he proves by all of these things that he inspires people to do. Satan has something far more rotten in mind for those who go down to Hell than any big party for eternity!! If you were trying to lure someone into a trap, you wouldn't come right out and show it for what it really is, but would disguise it and make it look as appealing as you possibly could because that is the only way that you will succeed in trapping and catching them. That is how drug dealers get people hooked on drugs and pimps get women into prostitution or cult leaders lure people into their cults or all other promoters of evil in any area lure people into their traps by making them seem "harmless". And Satan is far smarter than any human being and so what we can figure out to trap and lure people, he can figure out even better. "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds" (2 Corinthians 11:13-15). God hasn't set up humanity to fail and gave us free will, but there are consequences to our choices that we bring upon ourselves, including Hell. God has never sent anyone to Hell, but anyone who has ever gone to Hell put himself or herself there, the same as criminals put themselves in jail or prison by their own actions and decisions to commit crimes. The door to Hell is locked on the inside, as C.S. Lewis wrote. How many people do we know even in this world who exist in self-made and self-sustained Hells when the way out of them is clearly right in front of them, and still they stay stuck in their Hells of drug addiction and other problems. If people can even get stuck in Hells right in this life, how much easier must it be for some of those in the afterlife to get stuck in a Hell of their own making by becoming more and more entrenched over millions of years in their rotten thinking and rejection of God, and harder for them to come out of all that?!!

          1. Rev. Rory's Avatar Rev. Rory

            Yikes.

      2. Johnnie Roberte Lambert's Avatar Johnnie Roberte Lambert

        David Cox: Not everyone on this blog is chris chen. You show your intolerance by assuming that your religion is the only way. You have a right to believe what you believe and I have a right to my beliefs. I don't need forgiveness from your G'd.

      3. Nathaniel Robert Hunt's Avatar Nathaniel Robert Hunt

        David Cox Me (and all others) existing and living our lives as we see fit, worshiping Gods of our own choosing or no God don't mean we hate the biblical god, we have the protected right to live our own life without others telling us what to do, or trying to force their religious laws onto us.

      4. Amber Fry's Avatar Amber Fry

        Then shouldn't those judgements be made by God and not by other people? Everyone has very different ideas of what living as a Christian is all about these days so who is right? Who is wrong? Why bother trying to work that out when the whole idea is about minding your own way of life in your own Godly/Christianly way. Dictating it to everyone else, demanding of everyone else came out of fear, not love. God judges how you behave, not how you think others should behave. Anyone who claims to be Christian really needs to take more time studying what Jesus actually said and did. He was the one who said people could do what he did, be like he was. Study him more. Be like him more.

    3. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

      Satan exists if chris chen's goD exists. I can live without Satan but only if the chris chens are willing to live without their goD

      1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

        Believe it or not, that statement has a left handed kind of truth to it. Satan does not exist. Your belief may be real and you are entitled to it. We all must find the path that speaks to us. As long as others respect my right to my beliefs, I respect theirs. It is also true that the vengeful and spiteful, jealous God of the old testament has never been a true representation. That was all the work of the church to control the people. God has never wanted his children to fear him. He loves all his children the same. Even you. Fundamentals and conservatives often give the concept of "Christian" a bad rep these days. I am a gnostic Christian but anyone of any faith who follows Jesus real teachings, not accurately portrayed in the Bible, know the real meaning of Christian.

        1. George Pitagorsky's Avatar George Pitagorsky

          Belief without open minded and open hearted inquiry is ignorance. Look into your heart and question even your most dearly held beliefs to find the truth. Where's the love?

          1. Rev. B's Avatar Rev. B

            Belief without open minded and open-hearted inquiry is what the xtians call "faith".

  1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

    reading the entire story, it seems to me the school board bullied the artist into changing his work which had nothing wrong with it anyway .

    1. Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk's Avatar Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk

      Their wall, their choice.

      They asked the artist to remove some unimportant parts of the artwork and left all the important ones in. The artist agreed to do so, it's a non-problem.

  1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

    Insanity. If it was religious, better Lucifer than God. God does plagues and floods. Lucifer does Heavy Metal and orgies.

    1. David Cox's Avatar David Cox

      Well when Jesus comes back and the Bible was true all along it will be to late for you. You can hang out with Satan all you want then but things will be totally different than you think. I feel sorry for you and my prayer is that God will have mercy on you. You have no idea what's in store for those who reject God's free salvation. Study for yourself

      1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

        but you know that's not the case, right? when will you chris chens all learn that, while you are entitled to your beliefs you are NOT entitled to force others to believe or follow them. claiming nonsense from your b ible proves nothing. instead try just STFU and living like your je bus commanded you to. Huh...

  1. David Rodriguez's Avatar David Rodriguez

    I’m an artist and this mural is expressing every day life pros and cons .. Nothing daemonic about this painting ..

  1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

    Oh for pitys sake! I have had a blue and white striped shirt like the child in the picture for over 45 years now....so now a striped shirt is a secret LBGT code? And as for the rainbow leggings, give me a break...Pippi Longstockings wore those in her books and that was way back in the late 60's, so I guess Pippi was a secret time traveling LBGT agent? Hows about these people just MYOB.

    1. Rev. B's Avatar Rev. B

      Daniel, my old friend, you must know that I speak the truth when I tell you it physically pains me to say this but...I agree with you.

  1. Stefano Di Stefano's Avatar Stefano Di Stefano

    Yes

  1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news to jj, but Satan doesn't exist. That concept was created by the church to control people. As to the artwork, It sound like a school that says it doesn't tolerate bullying is guilty of it themselves. they bullied the artist into changing perfectly fine work to cater to scared little bigoted fanatics.

    1. Dr. Darryl G Dykes's Avatar Dr. Darryl G Dykes

      Loi-Ann Neeb, Lucifer aka Satan aka The Devil aka the tempter aka El Diablo does exist Read Mathew chapter 4 starting at verse 1. Then let us know

      1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

        Believe as you will. That is your right. But I stand by mine. If you have seen my reply you know I am gnostic Christian and acknowledge that the bible is inaccurate. It was published by a corrupt church with its own agenda. I disregard anything that starts "the bible says..." or claims that as any kind of verification alone. If you wish to prove anything to me, I would listen and respectfully at that. But if your Bible is all you have, you come to the table empty handed.

      2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        I guess it looks like you’re one if those that loves to quote from a book, written by very dubious authors, that never met the people they are talking about, and no demonstrable evidence to back up their claims. Until then, all those stories and tales have to be taken with a pinch of salt, but you are of course free to believe anything you read.

        Spoiler alert, the Harry Potter books are also fictional stories, just in case you’re wondering, Darryl.

        🦁❤️

      3. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

        thank you for praising SATAN

      4. Rev. B's Avatar Rev. B

        "Read Mathew chapter 4 starting at verse 1. Then let us know"

        Okay, so you've convinced me he is a storybook character. Now what?

  1. Parson Golden's Avatar Parson Golden

    Well, seeing any evidence of “Satanism” in that mural is pretty much related to humankind, which invented the cellar dweller to begin with.

  1. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

    I think it's fine. People are getting a bit too fussy over little things that don't mean anything.

  1. Alicia Szot's Avatar Alicia Szot

    Seriously? It's about kids being superheros because they took the jab. Hmmm....maybe that's not too off the mark then.

    But, really....this is NOT Satanic! Who thought up that one? I guess Christians like to see Satan in everything they don't fully understand. Get a grip, people!

  1. Alexander Arends's Avatar Alexander Arends

    I guess you just can't please everybody. Other parents would be upset if there was a cross depicted somewhere.. We need to be civil, but stop trying not to offend anyone. Whoever drew this did a nice job in illustrating his/her own thoughts. It is a piece of art.

    1. Stacey Owens's Avatar Stacey Owens

      It's not about pleasing anyone. It's not about them who are reacting. There is no need to respond. keep it to yourself. It doesn't affect the person who is responding. People don't need to know that your the god police.

  1. Tareq Asfour's Avatar Tareq Asfour

    Just like the other person give me a break also. Im sick and tired of America’s right wing neo nazi fundamentalist christians monstrous movement constantly trying to trying push a new age agenda that was used in 1940’s

  1. Stacey Owens's Avatar Stacey Owens

    We live in a time when every self righteous person has to react when it doesn't pertain to them. Everything is a issue when it doesn't affect your life. I remember back in the day when people just kept moving forward, It was just news.

  1. brian ham's Avatar brian ham

    Get a life !

  1. The Gray Minister's Avatar The Gray Minister

    Wow.

    I follow Christ My Lord God The Word I have been taught acceptance. If the church has man made laws then They should follow them.

    But I look at the Red Words to see how to walk the middle path. All I see is acceptance.

    Sure I dont agree with a lot but like I say. If it’s not affecting my life or hurting me or others. Then let them use the free will that The Father Created us with.

    I’m sad to see this. So so sad.

    Jesus helped people that weren’t Hebrew & taught them to do this. Jesus didn’t get kicked out of the bar Jesus didn’t throw The Devil in The Lake of Fire, he told him get behind me. As in I will even forgive you if you walk behind me. But no one seems to see this. All they see is what the person claiming to be following the middle path, instead of learning for them selves.

    I could go on and on.

    Even when I preach the truth of what The voice of my Lord Jesus my God The Word tells me and I’m told go away evil spirit. I smile & go because fighting with the blind, deaf & dumb.

    So sad.

  1. Laurie Kinns's Avatar Laurie Kinns

    Unbelievable! Do these people have nothing better to do than pick apart a painting! People need to learn the meaning of the phrase ' it's not all about you!'

  1. Laurie Kinns's Avatar Laurie Kinns

    Unbelievable! Do these people have nothing better to do than pick apart a painting! People need to learn the meaning of the phrase ' it's not all about you!'

  1. Robin Cohen's Avatar Robin Cohen

    Ridiculous Christian pushers. I believe : freedom for all! This is a wonderful mural. I love everything about it. I see what was on the mind of the artist. Santa, Halloween, doctors, vaccines & peace. This was painted with an open heart and love. This artist is growing and learning to be well rounded and open to differences.

  1. AnnaMarie Ingrassia's Avatar AnnaMarie Ingrassia

    people who find anything "demonic" here are just paranoid and projecting their own prejudices. It is a mural depicting that children and adults should stay healthy year around. It depicts the christian holidays and other symbols which represent other religions, like the HAMSA. THIS "Universal Life Church" supports Wikka...and Judaism, Islam, etc... as well as Christianity. Why are the Christians trying to make this child's art evil? PROJECTION !!!!!

  1. Minister Jeannine of the Church of the Free Spirit's Avatar Minister Jeannine of the Church of the Free Spirit

    I think some people are just religious extremists who insist on spreading their ignorance! I recall being told my Yin Yang symbol was a sign of satanism, and that the same throng they told the Native Americans about their culture and spirituality just as "they" have gone around the globe destroying cultures not like theirs and reimagine them into their specific culture and religion! It's shameful!!! To These religious nuts, I say get over yourselves, the world doesn't evolve around your personal beliefs and religion!

  1. Nicholas J Page's Avatar Nicholas J Page

    Ok we know Jesus Christ died and was crucified and he has risen there has been scientific proof.But does Satan actually exist what proof do we have.Does hell exist again what proof do we have.We have none it's just that a myth.No real books no pictures apart from those made up.

    1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

      You may get as far as proof archeologically that he was crucified. But no proof of his death exist. He survived and lived a long happy life with his wife, Mary Magdalene, and his family. His mission was never to die for our sins. They are our own. But as long as you are not a dark entity, your place at home waits for you. We judge ourselves as to how well or not we lived out the charts we wrote for ourselves. before we reincarnated into this life. The bible was published by a corrupt church at the time. They picked and chose what to include. Then they edited that more for centuries. It is inaccurate. Replies that are nothing more than memorized verses from an inaccurate book do not help or add to the thread at all. If having one inspires you to be a better person, then it has done some good for you. But that is all.

    2. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

      Satan and hell do not exist. We are living as close to those concepts as we can be.

    3. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

      sorry charlie but there is NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT JEBUS EVEN EXISTED, much less came back as a ZOMBIE). SATAN exists at least as much as your goD, probably more better gooder existings

    4. Dr. Darryl G Dykes's Avatar Dr. Darryl G Dykes

      Satan does exist read Mathew chapter 4 starting with verse 1. Hell is mentioned in the bible at least 55 times.

      1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

        @Dr. Darryl G Dykes Not so fast. Try reading Ezekiel 23:20.

        1. Troels Qvist's Avatar Troels Qvist

          You dont know..I guess we all will find out one day

          1. Arnold Eugene Karr's Avatar Arnold Eugene Karr

            Or maybe we won't. Maybe Qoheleth was right: "The dead know nothing." (Ecclesiastes 9:5)

      2. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

        @Dr. Darryl G Dykes This is what's great about the Bible, it's full of contradictions. You say Hell in mentioned in the Bible 55 times. Other say 31, But most say the word "hell" does not appear a single time, not even once, in the Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament. And the word "hell" is not in the New Testament either. You can easily confirm this fact yourself, by using an online Bible search tool to scan various Bible translations for the word "hell.

        So Dr. Darryl G Dykes how can you make it appear 55 times?

        This is why young people don't want nothing to do with Christians and the Christian religion. People just make stuff up.

    5. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

      he exists. I've met several of his children.

      1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        Wow, so you’ve met both Nancy Pelosi, AND Kamala Harris? That’s quite amazing.

        🦁❤️

        1. John D. Partin's Avatar John D. Partin

          If Colleen McAllister had met Trumpelstiltskin, that would have been meeting more the child of Satan or actually Satan himself than any two or twenty or two hundred or two thousand Democrats that you or any other brainwashed Trumpophiles could come up with, except in your own hypnotized and slavish view!!

    6. Arnold Eugene Karr's Avatar Arnold Eugene Karr

      History is not a science in the same sense as physics and chemistry, so there is no scientific evidence for any claims about Jesus or anyone else from the ancient world. Historians attempt to arrive at a consensus about what most probably occurred in the past. Most will agree that Jesus existed, that he was an apocalyptic preacher and that hi was crucified on orders from Pontius Pilate (who is probably no more or less likely to have existed than Jesus). The resurrection is a statement of faith and not an historically verifiable fact.

  1. Simon E Blatta's Avatar Simon E Blatta

    Does this mean that Hobbits are real? I've ready several books that mention them. Cool.

  1. David Rodriguez's Avatar David Rodriguez

    I am an artist and this mural is expressing every day life pros and cons nothing daemonic about this mural ..

  1. Alun Lloyd Palmer's Avatar Alun Lloyd Palmer

    Nothing wrong with the mural. Those who complained want their beliefs to be the only ones allowed in a country that is supposed to have separation of church and state. Next they will be trying to get the Supreme Court to ditch that principle. I am an atheist ULC minister and I am English but live in the US. Back home we have an established religion, that which is called Episcopal in the US, but nobody would ever dream of making these kind of loopy complaints. Mind you, church attendance is about a third of what it is in the US.

    1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

      1st Alun we do not and never have had any thing like Separation of Church and State as the Constitution was ratified in 1787, and the very first mention of this myth was in 1802 from Jefferson to his Danburry Conn Baptist detractors. Now the ONLY way you can add or subtract something from the US Constitution is by a constitutional amendment which has never happened concering this myth of Separation of church and state. The Supreme Court of the US cant do it nor can anyone else. So there is no principal to ditch as it never existed in the first place. And how can you claim to be a minister for a religion (and yes atheism and humanism have been ruled to be religions by our Supreme Court) like atheism? Atheists dont believe in a Deity therefor they have no need of someone to "preach" to them about it or about something they claim does not exist. Maybe you need to choose your words more carefully.

      1. Arnold Eugene Karr's Avatar Arnold Eugene Karr

        The 1st amendment rectified that oversight in the Constitution in 1791. Though the text of the amendment does not contain the words "separation of church and state," Jefferson's inference is quite defensible and, in my opinion, correct. It is also evident from the original text of the 1787 document that a purely secular government was intended. No mention is ever made of God or any specific religious belief or institution, and religious tests for public office are explicitly prohibited.

        1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          Nope sorry they are not and never have been. Case in point the religious school that applied for and was denied rubber shavings for their playground. It went all the way to the SCOTUS and the SCOTUS ruled in a SEVEN TO TWO decision that this violated the 1st amendment. No say what you want but when you are wrong then you are wrong. And if you want anyone to believe your myths then post a links PROVING this is what happened. I wont hold my breath on this waiting.

      2. Candace Sue Singleton's Avatar Candace Sue Singleton

        So, you're a Boebert convert. If chris chens get their way and merge politics with religion, then anyone that is not chris chen will probably either get jailed, censored, exiled, murdered. You can't convince me that won't happen. Do we remember the Crusades? Do we remember the Burning Times? Over the centuries it has been chris chens that have committed the most atrocities against FELLOW human beings for simply not believing what they believed.

        I've been watching society lately and I think there will be another Crusade/Burning Times. I'm truly concerned for my grand-children.

      3. Nathaniel Robert Hunt's Avatar Nathaniel Robert Hunt

        Daniel Gray So my pagan church and all other non christian churches can be involved in politics then?

        1. Daniel Gray's Avatar Daniel Gray

          sure can. as long as you are a recognized religion then yes you can be.

  1. Kathleen Miller's Avatar Kathleen Miller

    This is so ridiculous. A person cannot say anything because someone will be offended. Now a child apparently cannot express themselves through art. In my opinion there are people out there that just look for things to complain about. Everything put out there for the public will have some foolish and uneducated person complaining. We as a nation need to stop backing down because someone is offended. What happened to free speech ? We have to walk on eggshells for these people. I for one will continue to say and express myself as I always have and if someone complains about me or you or anyone for that matter, too bad. They can go live in a bubble.

  1. Nicky's Avatar Nicky

    I see the items the school board is referring to as being demonic and or witchcraft related and a few other items that I find odd, in my opinion I see no reason for those items to be in this particular mural as for the (RAINBOW) symbol has been taken from a sweet add to a nursery or a care bear is now referred to as a (GAY) symbol now and I personally find it repugnant why couldn't the LBGTQ community create an original symbol or why couldn't ppl just see a rainbow as a rainbow...PERSONAL IM TIRED OF EVERYONE GETTING THERE PANTIES IN A TWIST ABOUT EVERY LIL THING OR BEING OFFENDED OVER THE MOST STUPIDEST THING.....WHAT I WOULDN'T GIVE TO BE A KID AGAIN LIFE WAS SWEET NOW IT LEAVES A VERY SOUR AFTER TASTE......SO OVER IT !!!!

    1. Arnold Eugene Karr's Avatar Arnold Eugene Karr

      Why not create an original symbol? I'm not sure there can be any original symbols after tens of thousands of years of human artistic representation. We can only reinterpret and revalue what has gone before. "We stand on the shoulders of giants."

  1. Daniel Joseph Morse's Avatar Daniel Joseph Morse

    There are 435 obscenities elected to the legislative branch of FedGov. Fix that. Our foreign policy is an obscenity. Fix that. Some kid's bogus poster is not the concern. The brainless parents who breed are the concern. My point of view is that of a Combat Infantry veteran of VietNam. I like guns and don't like liberals. Things like this make me VERY glad I carefully didn't have children. I leave no hostages to idiocy when I die.

  1. Jack Gerber's Avatar Jack Gerber

    When I first saw the the picture of the mural and read about the objections of the Christians I was amazed. I couldn't figure out how anyone could find it offensive in any way. I am curious now, though. Do those of you who are devout Christians see the work of the Devil around you a lot?

    At first I was laughing at it but then I realized that as a Wiccan, I see the work of the Goddess around me all the time as well so it appears that this is a natural part of being a human being.

  1. Christal L Merkey's Avatar Christal L Merkey

    I personally didn't see anything wrong with the picture. Just because some little girl was wearing rainbow colored leggings and there was a ghost on there doesn't make something satanic.

  1. Christal L Merkey's Avatar Christal L Merkey

    I personally didn't see anything wrong with the picture. Just because some little girl was wearing rainbow colored leggings and there was a ghost on there doesn't make something satanic.

  1. Geoffrey C. Olive's Avatar Geoffrey C. Olive

    Has anyone ever considered the scientific evidence of the universe that everything consists of atoms? The simplest element is hydrogen which is a single proton referred to as positive, and a single electron referred to as negative which circles the proton in the same way as the Earth circles the Sun. Neither atomic component can exist independently although nuclear physicists have managed to split the atom with consequences that could eliminate human existence! Applying this proven logic, religions, particularly xtianity, seem to think that their god is good, and the devil is bad and must be eliminated! Neither can exist without the other! If you believe the religious nonsense peddling you are also by definition a selective science denier! Just accept that whenever there is a positive, there will ALWAYS be an equal and opposite negative. Neither will EVER eliminate the other! So, just assume the universe is all there is and it’s made of atoms, no god(s) or devil(s), creator (who or what made the creator?) or anything else! Become an atheist and enjoy a wonderful life! Remember there is no such thing as a “before life”, so why should anyone believe there is an “afterlife”?

    1. Geoffrey C. Olive's Avatar Geoffrey C. Olive

      PS. Don’t forget Santa is an anagram of Satan!🤔🤪

  1. Theresa Gull's Avatar Theresa Gull

    What the actual #%*@?? I think this is a beautiful message of inclusion. People need to have their heads examined, constantly looking for the negative. And here we are breathing life into these ridiculous accusations.

  1. Jowanna A. Peterson's Avatar Jowanna A. Peterson

    No offensive material seen by me here. People can interpret anything they want to make something what it's not. I personally don't like the gay oriented colors but at this point who cares? It's a health awareness poster.

  1. Reverend David's Avatar Reverend David

    I myself believe that we should all live our lives without demeaning or belittling others. Everyone has an opinion and has a right to express that opinion. I wish you would stop calling people Bible thumper as that is a derogatory term and insults anyone who reads the Bible. I was born Catholic and went to church every Sunday and every holiday because I had no choice. Due to that I grew to dispise the Catholic religion. If we could all just try to teach compassion, tolerance, love and acceptance to others maybe people would understand that we are not all alike but we all deserve to be treated with respect.

  1. Elaine A. Bentley's Avatar Elaine A. Bentley

    I am a 70 yr old Heterosexual Catholic woman and, call me crazy, but when I looked at this picture, I saw a very talented artist. If she added her own twist on it, ok, I understand the school board didn't approve. But to rip it apart and to accuse her of all these wrong doings is ridiculous!

  1. Ernesto Manuel Gomez's Avatar Ernesto Manuel Gomez

    We, as followers of Jesus, should live as we are convinced of His love toward us, of His grace and forgiveness. If we live our lives before others as we ought, what can a poster do to sway anyone's opinion. Look at, see it for what it means to you,embrace it or reject it. If a poster can harm, how strong is our confidence in our faith?

  1. Douglas Stephen Saldivar's Avatar Douglas Stephen Saldivar

    As far as I can tell EVIL (by whatever name you wish to call it) is alive in the world. The idea of an Anti Christ as a great deceiver is important. Many "Christians" and "Moslems" believe they are following god's laws as told to them by false preachers. But they have been deceived and are now creating divisions, judgments, and anarchy in the world. They refuse to believe the existential threats to our world. They refuse to follow the real teaching of our saints and saviors. They want to build a grim world where all people must believe as they do and those who don't must face human judgment and punishment. Those who truly understand, know that GOD wants us to love one another and leave the judgments to an eternal wisdom

  1. Arnold Eugene Karr's Avatar Arnold Eugene Karr

    Back in my days as a house-church Jesus freak, our pastor always referred to Satan as "the Enemy." In that context I take the words of the prophet Walt Kelly literally: "We have met the Enemy and he is Us." We are Satan when we choose to accuse, condemn, and destroy.

  1. Donald Michael Woodward's Avatar Donald Michael Woodward

    Religion can lead to extremism and many in the U.S. are beginning to fail at knowing where faith ends and fanatacism begins.

  1. Keith's Avatar Keith

    OMG! This is just a child being a child. Using their imagination. Why can’t people just see things as they are, and not put titles or labels on everything? If people have not broken a law or committed a punishable crime then leave them be. Our society use to be much simpler and everything was just fine. Then one day someone started making much a do about nothing. I guess their lives were so miserable and they had nothing to do so they wanted to make something out of nothing and get into everyone’s business. Let kids be kids, life is tough enough as it is.

  1. Michael Siebielec's Avatar Michael Siebielec

    I find it rather odd, but not unusual at this point of time in the USA, that there seems to be no representation of a white boy in the drawing. We as a society continue to push a female agenda in schools that relegate boys to only sports and as an impediment to girls' successes. Of course, no one seemed to notice this. Boys are falling behind across the nation, but no one seems to care.

  1. Renee Hendrix's Avatar Renee Hendrix

    There is absolutely nothing wrong or satanic about this mural. The people complaining are probably parents upset that their child's mural wasn't chosen.

  1. William McMillian's Avatar William McMillian

    There is a much larger issue. Separation of church and state. The pilgrims came to avoid persecution by the Church of England. And here we are seeing “Christians” trying to impose their beliefs on others. Wake up Christ was not a blue-eyed Max von Sydow. He was raised in a religious community and later he was persecuted because he didn’t conform. He was all about love

  1. Cindy L Edgar's Avatar Cindy L Edgar

    I'm pagan I do not worship the devil like all the Christians think that we do the Christians should look at their own selves in the mirror before they start judging everybody else or judging paganism I'm I am so tired of people supposed people especially the Christians judging paganism as a satanic thing we don't worship demons we don't worship Satan paganism has been around a lot longer than Christianity so I would start judging Christianity if I was everyone they're the ones that made sacrifices to people that didn't believe in one God and only one God they're the ones that have the witches killed and sentenced to death for no reason at all so start judging Christianity cuz I do

    1. Loren William Kinzel's Avatar Loren William Kinzel

      "All the Christians" think that you worship the devil? Now I must say Paganism doesn't have quite the "brand recognition" that Christianity does, but the basic principles of paganism were in my grade school textbooks in the late 60's / early 70's. No devil or human sacrifice mentioned. Like all other walks of life, not all Christians think alike. Boebert & Marge Greene are news. we hear about them. If a man walking down the street hears preaching that he disagrees with but keeps his mouth shut, we don't hear about it as it is not news that sells. So don't judge me by the idiots you see in the news.

  1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

    I agree. The Vatican is guilty of heinous acts against innocent people throughout history. Just so we remember God had nothing to do with those acts. Corrupt men who made up the church were totally responsible as we are responsible for our actions to this day. The term Christian applied to someone living Jesus true teachings no matter what church building they enter or not is a person living a true spiritual life. It is those, like history's Vatican, commiting atrocities out of hatred but trying to use God to justify them, that have no right to the title "Christian."

  1. Mary's Avatar Mary

    Wish I new how to vote up these nice people and comments they are leaving. There's nothing evil about this mural. No satan and these people posting don't know anything about satan. This is pure superstion and that's all. Stop gaslighting people.

  1. James P. Applegate's Avatar James P. Applegate

    OK. For people not watching Disney as u can see clearly some designs are from many Disney Shows. The Hand with the eye is from Gravity Falls, the bottom left with Frog and Caterpillar Cat is also Disney show Annphibian, then the signs which people think it's witchcraft well again another Disney Show called Owl House. Like I said look at it don't judge it. It is amazing!!!

  1. Marcy Reynolds Cunningham's Avatar Marcy Reynolds Cunningham

    The Mural s a collective, beautiful, wondrous piece of ART. It reeks of LOVE and connection.

  1. Angela Guyton-Cyril's Avatar Angela Guyton-Cyril

    I am happy that a child can see the world without so much hate. How many adults can say they see the world like that? A child sees the unity that we can bring.

  1. Richard Darwin Richards's Avatar Richard Darwin Richards

    It definitely follows the "woke" guidelines and therefore should be considered immoral.

    1. Rev. Dr. Father JJ's Avatar Rev. Dr. Father JJ

      "woke" = dog whistle for chris chen nationalist who want to make AMERICA a chris chen nation and rule it according to sharia law. NEVER I say, NEVER will that happen. let's let SATAN rule as he is far more peaceful and calm and fair than the chrs chen, jew ish or mus lim goDs. AVE SATANA!

      fun fact, if you actually read (even silently) the name of satan, you have let him into your heart and brain. welcome to club SATAN

    2. Olivier Ammour-Mayeur's Avatar Olivier Ammour-Mayeur

      Right, so men cheating on their wives, like "taking women by the pussy", but pretending to be good Christian; stealling money by forging their income to not pay taxes; exploting people by telling fake news twice a day just to make more money; killing people (because it's their right!) are not immoral??

      But a nice none discriminatory painting is?

      Then, I guess you probably need to go to therapy to sort things out about what really matters in life.

      1. Richard Darwin Richards's Avatar Richard Darwin Richards

        We do not support Biden so your diatribe does not pertain to us

  1. Pastor Jim's Avatar Pastor Jim

    It looks like an LGBTQ mural to me.

    1. Simon E Blatta's Avatar Simon E Blatta

      When I view it, I see beauty, warmth, talent. Depends on the lenses one wears. Through lenses of love, beauty is reflected. Through lenses of hate or fear, beauty is obscured.

    2. Olivier Ammour-Mayeur's Avatar Olivier Ammour-Mayeur

      Ever wondered why it is so problematic to you that you have to "exorcise" everything you consider LGBTQ??

      For me that is the real question! Not the mural.

      1. Pastor Jim's Avatar Pastor Jim

        Nope. Good luck with that (finding the answer too your question).

  1. Rev. MichaelRS's Avatar Rev. MichaelRS

    It's supposed to be a mural about kids staying healthy. Why does there have to be a nod to sexuality or religion, one way or the other, in it at all?

    Or, if you have to have them, why not "include" all the other symbols, such as ULC has at the bottom of this blog post, and a kid wearing a Straight Pride patch or piece of clothing?

  1. Parson Golden's Avatar Parson Golden

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  1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

    Mr. Cox, Be careful you do not go that far into confusing anyone who does not believe exactly as you do to be God or Jesus haters. I do not think as you do but respect your right to your beliefs. I very much so believe in God, Mother and Father, and Jesus. I just do not believe the Bible is accurate in many places.
    But you are correct that God loves and forgives His children. News flash... There will be no next coming or any such thing. Jesus never really left us. He and his teachings are always here for us. He lived out his human life with his family then returned Home.

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      There is no evidence whatsoever to support what you’re saying, Lori-Ann. You are totally free, of course, to believe whatever you want. We only have here-say of anything he taught, and that’s if he ever really existed, which it’s possible he did, or at least someone like him may have existed.

      We still have no demonstrable evidence that your god is real, or any of the worlds gods for that matter. 🤷🏼

      🦁❤️

      1. Lori-Ann Neeb's Avatar Lori-Ann Neeb

        Believe as you will. The teachings I follow do give me proof that I have no trouble taking on faith. But, given the mindset you seem to have, I doubt it would be enough for you. So I will just say have a good evening. And I did mean that. It wasn't sarcasm. lol

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          I totally respect your comments, Lori-Ann. I do however only believe in demonstrable facts to support my beliefs. I have no reason to believe that Krishna, or Vishnu, or Thor, or even your God, are real.

          Whatever the reasons you have for not believing that Krishna, or Vishnu, or Thor, et al, are not real gods, I have exactly the same reasons for not believing in your God, so you and I are very similar in that we don’t believe in many of the worlds gods, do we? It’s just that I believe in one less God than you do.

          I am totally happy to believe in your God, if you can demonstrably prove your God is real. If all you are doing is relying on “faith”, which is no different to all the other worlds gods that other people believe in, then you are no different to them.

          Thank you for your reply though 🤗

          🦁❤️

  1. Krystina S.'s Avatar Krystina S.

    What a lovely mural. I don't understand how any ADULT could be so petty and cruel as to try to destroy the beautiful meaning behind the artist's Superhero themed Health Mural. As far as I know, the RAINBOW is a Jewish/Muslim/Christian symbol, A PROMISE FROM GOD "I WILL NEVER PUNISH MY PEOPLE AGAIN with cruel, planet-destroying flooding." Thus, the Rainbow imagery means NOT Judging. It also stands for many things in cultures throughout the world, as well as being the primary, vibrant colors children love and are drawn to. Rainbow CareBear and the Care Bear logo seen, is that gay? It was never gay for my children or grandchildren. As far as bicolored or striped clothing- well, ever since there were textiles, there were stripes and color blocks. I mean, really. Germs and diseases can be scary, and I think the smaller images show what whirl around our minds as we go to the doctor- fear, anxiety, hope, need, support. Why is everything always about something satanic to evangelical christians and some other kooks? They need help, not pandering to their belligerent, bullying, intimidating, demanding, cruelty.

  1. Troels Qvist's Avatar Troels Qvist

    It sure is satan that Orchestrated this bad penmanship.. All hail SATAN. Norwegian black metal 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  1. John Anthony Laben's Avatar John Anthony Laben

    What really annoys me is how the rainbow a sign from God has been corrupted by Satan to mean something else

    1. AnnaMarie Ingrassia's Avatar AnnaMarie Ingrassia

      the rainbow has been corrupted by anti human humans...just like the swastika has been misappropriated by Nazis. Satan had nothing to do with it...It is all the doing of humans...

      1. Candace Sue Singleton's Avatar Candace Sue Singleton

        I agree. Humans are the worst creature on the planet, absolute worst. At this point in time there is no redemption either. We are slowly destroying the one world that we can live in. Humans will destroy themselves with their entitlement. And we ALL feel we have entitlement over the world in some degree or another.

  1. Douglas Granter's Avatar Douglas Granter

    Why is no one addressing the real evil in this mural, HELLO KITTY! THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!

  1. Theresa Gull's Avatar Theresa Gull

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  1. ronald's Avatar ronald

    people try to read to much into about any thing I say it is good let it lieI don't believe she had any intension to do any thing other then the school ask for.

  1. Daniel George Edward Mulhern's Avatar Daniel George Edward Mulhern

    The curse of Babel is perfect and unassailable.

    Truth is in the heart alone.

    Absolutely NO symbol, word or belief is, or could ever be: Truth!!!

  1. Tony Walter Parlato's Avatar Tony Walter Parlato

    Do people realize that anything deemed ‘satanic’ is actually Christian? It is, after all a Christian construct born of the Bible they prop up with great zeal. So… any notion of a devil or Satan is purely Christian. So, what are they ACTUALLY in favor of?
    So many people are worrying about protecting their prescious children from exposure to anything ‘other’ instead of educating them on thinking through these instances and framing them as learning experiences. Exposure to something does not mean condoning that something. In fact, when you take literature as an example, can’t you argue that schools are trying to get their students to have a new sacrifice ceremony in town, because they are reading and analyzing ‘the lottery’? Get a grip you righteous bigots..

  1. Burruss Scott Williams's Avatar Burruss Scott Williams

    as a retired teacher I wish more parents were concerned with their own kids behavior, how many times did I meet with parents about their child bulling other students or other anti social behavior. the old standby, "come on, he(or she) was only joking, people have to learn to take a joke, kids have to toughen up, its a hard world out there",

  1. Burruss Scott Williams's Avatar Burruss Scott Williams

    I am going to contact the local Chamber of Commerce and report the local Muffler Shop. They must be Satanists. When I picked up my truck (muffler and tailpipe replacement) on October 31, the last 3 igits on the odometer were "666". Then I remembered the service manager had one of those goatees and to top it off they were playing "country music" on the radio. Satanic muffler installers, I knew it

  1. Michael Andrew Smith's Avatar Michael Andrew Smith

    All people have a belief system to help answer the question, "Why am I alive and what meaning does my life have?" Some of the most hateful people were and are those with deeply held religions who cannot accept any deviation from their "one and only true religion"

    Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and all the rest are not the end all but attempts to answer those questions of why. It amazes me how hurtful, hateful, unbending such peaceful people can be when their religion is threatened!

  1. Rolland Pitzer's Avatar Rolland Pitzer

    It’s time for people to get a life. As a Christian I am tired of these so called Christians so pious that it’s their way or the highway. This has gotten entirely out of hand I wonder what they would think if they saw the artwork in the Vatican. I have and it covers every corner of religious view of good and evil but I don’t see them picking on the masters but sure as hell can pick on a kid. You should be ashamed of yourselves and I believe that you might be in for a rude awakening when it’s your turn to meet your maker. It’s very clear in revelations when it talks about people that claim to be Jews ( Christians) who are not. You should be asking for forgiveness and maybe you can get a break but you have become so mean and bitter I seriously doubt that you will change. You wonder why people are turning away from the church do you think Jesus had a problem with the poor the sick or the ones not of his persuasion. Listen to the children after all they are gods favorite

  1. Rev. Rory's Avatar Rev. Rory

    The hamsa is a depiction of a human hand, often, though not always, with a central eye motif.

    The symbol is widely used across much of the Middle East and North Africa The Hebrew word hamesh means five, as does the Arabic word khamsah. In Muslim traditions, it is sometimes known as the Hand of Fatima, named for one of the prophet Muhammad's daughters, according to Frankel. In some Christian usages, it is referred to as the Hand of Mary. It's an image recognized and used as a sign of protection at many times and in many cultures throughout history, traditionally believed to provide defense against the evil eye, a powerful notion in many of those cultures.

  1. Mitchell Harwood's Avatar Mitchell Harwood

    People see what they want to see. If they want to "the devil" in Japanese anime cartoons, then they will see that. It says more about the parents mental disorders and hang-ups than it does about about the artist or young people in general.

  1. Terri Lynn Rose's Avatar Terri Lynn Rose

    In the article one person says we are not stupid and to that I say: " No, just ignorant and judgemental. I wonder what would Jesus say? " And please bipolar meds, counseling that comment or must be suffering from the detrimental side effects of Big Pharma ! Seeing things that are not there due to fear and ignorance can lead to some forms of mental illness. Perhaps some counseling for the judging ones to find out what they fear in the illustration; and why would be more appropriate?

  1. Daniel Todd Kamm's Avatar Daniel Todd Kamm

    She did a beautiful piece from her heart, showing love for all kinds of people. Her critics need to heal their own hearts. Reb tk

  1. Chris Cunningham's Avatar Chris Cunningham

    The satanic face? Looks like an Oni mask from Japanese culture. There's also Hello Kitty, and a "cat"erpillar.

    "discriminatory towards Christians" apparently now means that it is inclusive of other cultures and faiths. I see the Hamsa hand, and I see a lotus flower, along with the symbol for peace. If you want to find fault in something by selecting individual icons, you are forcing yourself to divorce those symbols and icons from those around it. The supposed satanic face is literally adjacent to the peace symbol.

    I shouldn't even have to complain about people having issues with the rainbow leggings (never mind the matching shirt). If that is somehow offensive to you, clearly you're not mature enough to remember Rainbow Brite. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw it.

    It takes a particular world view to think everyone is against you, and find fault in everything. Something that is inclusive of multiple cultures and symbology, note the individual in the center with a head scarf. This is an inclusive piece, and if being inclusive is viewed as anti-anything, then the fault lies with those feeling they are on the receiving end of that anti-sentiment.

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