Evangelical Christians and transgender TikTok star Dylan Mulvaney might not see eye to eye on much, but they may agree on one thing: God has a plan for everyone.
Last month in her variety show entitled "365 Days of Girlhood," which celebrated the one-year anniversary of her gender transition, Mulvaney discussed her relationship with God and said that she believes that God didn’t make a mistake with her.
During a performance of "Running Up That Hill" by Kate Bush, Mulvaney paused the show. "I'm going to say something that might make people feel a little bit uncomfortable," she said.
"I'm trying really hard to maintain a relationship with God… I don't think He made a mistake with me, and that maybe one day, I will actually be grateful for being trans, that this isn't some curse, but it's just a different path to the same destination.”
Most Christians would agree that God indeed does not make mistakes. But where do transgender people fit into the picture?
And how did we get here? Let's start with a quick recap of the latest culture war drama to hit the internet.
From Influencer to Outrage
Mulvaney has had quite the rise to prominence in the last year. Raised in a conservative Christian household, Mulvaney exploded in popularity as she documented her male to female transition daily on TikTok, where she amassed nearly one billion views and over 10 million followers.
She became so popular that in October 2022, she was invited to speak in a presidential forum on trans issues with President Biden. As a prominent influencer and activist, Mulvaney was also offered sponsorships with popular brands – some of which have faced backlash from religious and conservative consumers.
Most notable on that list is Bud Light, who partnered with Mulvaney to promote their beer earlier this month.
She posted a video on Instagram encouraging her followers to drink Bud Light and watch the NCAA’s March Madness tournament, and also showed off a customized Bud Light can with her face on it, sent courtesy of Anheuser-Busch.
Then the backlash began.
This Bud's Not For You
Protests against Bud Light and other Anheuser-Busch products swept across the internet, prompting religious leaders and commentators to share their thoughts on the issue.
Evangelical leader Franklin Graham called it a "woke marketing campaign" and said that Anheuser-Busch "sacrificed its brand."
Former White House staffer and Christian blogger William Wolfe argued that the ad campaign made a mockery of women.
"Big brands might mock women everywhere by plastering Mulvaney’s face on their products, but God isn’t fooled. He’s the author of men and women, after all," he wrote.
Meanwhile, musician Kid Rock took a more... aggressive approach in a protest video he made.
WARNING: ADULT LANGUAGE
Echoing Rock's sentiment, country musicians announced they’d no longer sell Bud Light at concerts.
But that wasn't all: clips of consumers destroying cases of Bud Light in grocery store aisles flooded the internet, and some Anheuser-Busch factories even received bomb threats.
Does God Make Mistakes?
Mulvaney has been relatively quiet on social media since the firestorm began.
However, her comments opening up about her complicated relationship with God speak to a common experience that many queer Christians can relate to.
And while the subject of her struggle – being transgender – might be foreign to many people of faith, she nevertheless also touched upon a subject most Christians will reckon with at some point: dealing with personal hardship and maintaining a belief that God has a plan for all of us.
So did Mulvaney and evangelicals find common ground?
Well… not exactly.
New Gender, Who Dis?
Many younger and more progressive Christians agree with Mulvaney's view that God made her transgender, and that her transition is also part of her faith journey.
More conservative faith teachings seem to come to a different conclusion: that God doesn’t make mistakes – but that Mulvaney did.
“That’s great on the relationship with God, now leave transgenderism behind. You can’t be a new creation and walk hand in hand with sin at the same time," wrote one critic.
Well, don't hold your breath. Mulvaney appears committed to maintaining her Christian faith and her gender identity, despite these attacks.
What is your reaction? If there is a creator, does He (or She, or It, or They) make mistakes? Do faith teachings necessarily conflict with transgender identity, or is there room for compromise and understanding?
206 comments
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Brien
I just don't get it. Really, what is wrong with people? Why would you want to proclaim a relationship with any organization that believes that you are a sin cast by Satan? Why? Is it so you can try to have your 15 minutes of fame? I had no clue who this person was before this blog post. I still have no clue. The only thing worse than the zealot beliefs is someone trying to force the zealots to accept them. This world is getting more ridiculous every day. Is there anyone here that can see this picture for what it is? Is there anyone left that has not been poisoned by the psycobabble flood yet? Please think for yourselves, don't get pulled into make believe battles.
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David Ray Barley
I agree God didn’t make a mistake with Dylan Mulvany. God created him a male that wasn’t a mistake! It’s when we decide to go against how we were created and say I know better than God!
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Man of God
Mr. Thomas P. Davis,
There is much to learn. Have you hear of 'Jews for Jesus'? https://www.jewsforjesus.org
Look them up.
Another reference point; an excellent study Bible: 'NIV Prophecy Marked Reference Study Bible'; also, One New Man BIBLE, revealing JEWISH ROOTS & POWER a Bible written by Jews from the orginal Hebrew and Greek NT translations.
The reasons I suggest this are. Jews For Jesus are the Jewish movement that specialize in evangelizeing Jews. If you get to know them, ask a Rabbi about Mohammed. It is important to know who Mohammed is and why the God Allah leads him, because of the coming Holy War that he is the author of.
The NIV study Bible will have information about each Author of the Books of the Bible and the dates of the writings. Also, you will learn that there are 7 books with unknown authors. Which are Ruth - the gentile who God honors; the Books of 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel, 1Kings, 2 Kings, Esther, and Job. Also, Books with uncertain authors: Judges, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Songs of Songs and Lamentations. And lots of other great information that no other Bible study books have.
Also, it would not be harmful to read at least half of the Quran, especially one with a preface that tells how the Quran was written. This is important to understand and see the relationship between Ishmael (Abramham's 1st born from Hagar) and the son God promised Abraham from his wife Sarah who is Isaac (Abramham 2nd son and true heir). read Gen 16: 1-16. also Gen 25: 12-18. Once you learn about Mohammed, you will learn that he is a desendant of Abraham through Ishmael. This will show why there can be no peace between the followers of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the followers of the God of Mohammed.
Jesus does teach us of a future great war and destruction that has not come as yet, along with what is to come before Jesus will establish His Kingdom.
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Man of God
T. Davis,
Thank You, well written and researched. Our lives today can not truely tells us about the future. Our Lord and Savior teaches us a few important facts we can do and understand. 1. Keep him (Jesus) in our hearts. 2. Be like him, obey the Father. Follow our Father's Commandments and decrees. 3. Do the new Commandment Jesus gave, " Love thy neighbor as we Love ourself." and do unto others, as we want to do unto ourselves.
The Holy Spirit guides us now, the Father will take care of the future that is coming....
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Thomas P. Davis
Really the new commandment exceeds the older one. Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. This time the Lord says to love our neighbor as He has loved us. A few steps higher I would think. Would we die for our neighbor? Yes, He does have somethings He doesn't enlighten us on. Deu 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.
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Thomas P. Davis
You are correct, we will not know the day or the hour, but He also says that it will not take us by surprise. Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Mar 13:28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: Mar 13:29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. He also tells us to watch. Mar 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch. Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. All of us returns to the ground. It is Greek dualism that teaches the soul is separate and a certain denomination has gotten rich off of it. The bible says Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (Man became a living soul, he was not given one.) other versions correctly interpretate it a living being. Only God has immortality. 1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, we get ours when He returns and we once again as Adam eat from the tree of life. Everywhere else in scripture we are reminded that the soul dies. Even Christ in Gethsemane said, Mat 26:38 Then saith he unto them, my soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: Satan and his angels will be destroyed. Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Then once the wicked are burned up we are told, Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts. The earlier verses say that satan will be no more and this verse says the same for the wicked. Oba 1:16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been. I am tired of this old world and looking forward to this Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. This is a great promise as well. Nah 1:9 What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time.
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Charles D Guerber
God didn't make her transgender, she did.
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Thomas P. Davis
Society may have helped; we will never know in this life. But as you stated God did not do it. Satan likes everyone using Him for their scapegoat to all of this world's problems. When we stand before the judgment seat, it will be us and the Judge of the universe. We will answer for our own decisions, we will not be able to point our fingers to someone else. Luckily our Judge will also be our lawyer and unlike the legal system in this world, we will have a fair trial. Thankfully we will not have long to wait.
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Man of God
We will not know the day or the hour when the great suffering of this world will come. This world looks and sounds terrible, but this is not the end. Know that this world as in planet is a construct, a place for free will, the will of our true nature can and will reveal it self. Our God Loves his creation but can not stand the evil (which is any and everything we do against his word) that man/woman does. He has told us this many times in his words.
Our bodies will return to this ground, but our souls will be in the dimension between the worlds that our God speaks up. The Father is a creator, from his dimension there is no death. We have never read or hear that our father will kill or destroy the Prince of this world (Satan). Satan and all his followers will be casted out by the Judge (Jesus). Have faith for this will be so.
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JaZe
God said, God did, God this and that. God Almighty! What proof is there that the being we call God ever dictated anything or asked us for anything? Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions 😑 and for them how many millions slaughtered, how much hate and destruction generated?
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Tabetha
God doesn’t make mistakes people do and it called free will. The lord gives us enough rope to hang ourself or to hold ourselfs together
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Man of God
Wise comment Tabetha. Jesus is the only authority that has earned the Father's will to past judgement. When Jesus returns, which will not be until the Father commands him to, Jesus will judge us all, belivers and non. The two groups Jesus has spoken he will surely cast out of his kingdom will be the phoneys and the Prince of this world and all his followers. Jesus did also warn us that few will be worthy to live in his world. The teachings he has given us mortals is to have faith, believe and stand firm, be like him, obey the Father and do not submit to the ways of this world. Yes, we must live out our days in this world. Jesus will understand what this world may make us do, but he will know our heart and judge us.
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Kandi Allison Kane
God didn't make a mistake....Science did.
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Rhyannon Quilla Brightwater
Daniel, you seem to just be an angry person who needs something to complain about. Wishing you all the best. Goodbye, troll.
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Daniel J Collins
Here is what I know for sure ..I won’t be at anyone’s judgement day and if anyone accepts the Son and doesn’t have bad intent and attempts to live a good life then it is between the Creator and the Person in question …to judge would be breaking the greatest gift of all freewill …
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Lionheart
Your evidence to support your claim of a deistic creator, and a Judgement Day, is where? Did you read that in a book?
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Man of God
Lionheart, Read the Book of Revelation. Written by John. John was in prison during the rein if the Emperor Domitia (A.D. 81-96). While there John received this vision and wrote the Book of Revelation ( C. A.D. 90-96). The Book of Revelation reveals the hidden happenings of the future using metaphors, symbolic language, dreams, visions and displays of supernatural power.
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Lionheart
Yes, I'm aware of the Book of Revelation. It's being suggested that it was "probably" written by a christian from Ephesus known as John the Elder, around 96 CE. The author only identifies himself as, John. 🤷🏼
The writings of that book was written on the Isle of Patmos, well known, even to this day, for its growing, and harvesting, of psychedelic mushrooms. There are many people, Jonathan, who like to say they have heard voices, or have been divinely inspired to write books. Joseph Smith, of Book of Mormon fame, claims to have not only heard voices, but claims to have actually seen them in a vision. 🤷🏼
I wonder how much is actually true when we read writings, and interpretations, of ancient text. I guess we will never know.
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Lionheart
Well, let's face it, anyone that drinks Bud, or any of Anheuser Busch's products, and then call it beer, or lager, have some very serious issues. That's a dead give-away to start with regarding their mental state. 🤭
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Rev. Phillip Fetterman
Technically, transgender people would fall under the term eunuch, as long as they aren't homosexual as well, as the Bible very clearly states that they are an abomination before the lord. The Bible does however state that if a body part offends you, you are to cast it aside, which is what I believe transgender people are doing, for right or wrong, as it up to God to bring judgement on them and not me.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
phil fetterman
According to the Bible, there are several types of shellfish that are considered unclean and therefore forbidden to eat. Leviticus 11:9-12 and Deuteronomy 14:9-10 list them as follows:
Any type of shellfish that does not have fins or scales is considered unclean and therefore an ABOMINATION to God. This would include shellfish such as shrimp, lobster, crab, and clams.
So why aren't you out protesting Red Lobster?
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Ruberita Bandihai
He is not a she!! I don’t even why we need to confuse ourselves with this.
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Man of God
Many of the issues that inspire confusion about our God's teachings comes from several areas. 1.) our God is 3 into one, with each part independent of the other, yet they speak as one. God - the word can mean Creator, Father, Almighty or just - "I am that I am." 2.) Lord God - First appears in text at Gen 2:4..When the Lord God made...in the old Testaments, Lord God speaks often, later in the new Testaments, we learn from Jesus that he, 'who has been with us since the beginning', is the Lord God. 3.) Holy Spirit - First appears in text at Mt 1:18. This is in reference to the coming of the birth of Jesus. After Jesus is baptized by his cousin John, Jesus's full mission is revealed. Jesus then explains who he really is, that he is send by the Father (his Father, God, Creator, I am that I am). Jesus later explains that the Holy Spirit is the doer (this explains why the Holy Spirit is not revealed to man until Mary is with child). Jesus further explains how powerful Jesus sees the Holy Spirit. Jesus teaches us that doing judgement he will not forgive any sins man makes againsts the Holy Spirit (also any sins man makes against a child). With these teachings in mind we teachers of the Word must explain there is a big difference in the teaching of the Word and that of man. First, man is constantly influenced by the evil one, whom Jesus refers to as Satan. So, anything that man says contrary to God's Word is false. Certain words that man uses to explain the Word of God, such as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Beastality or Homosexual are words that man has created. We know this because God did not use them. Our God explains in simple words what he observed man/woman was, has and is doing. Our God makes no compromises. We do not need other created words by man to explain what our God means. Remember, when God spoke to Moses to then speak/write to his people the descendants of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob (Israel) whom God had just freed from over 400+ years of slavery. That a slave master makes sure his slaves knows only one thing, TO BE A SLAVE. Our God had to explain who he is and what he is, in as simple a language as he could. And we now know how that came off, and still with man's added words are coming off as massive confusion to people. Jesus did warn us that only the Father would grant the ability to understand the Word. Our mission of teachers is to stand firmly with the Word. I will close with MY God never used the word or reference to the word Lesbian.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
JK Good(?)
are you okay?
those are a lot of words, in fact it's a brick wall of words. are you expressing your feeling the your goD didn't use paragraphs either?
so here's the point, if indeed your goD wrote the bible and the bible is your goD's words, who gives you the right to interpret them to others?
how can you possibly claim to know the mind of your goD? you attempting to interpret the words of you goD is blasphemous at best and at worst proves that you are in fact in cahoots with SATAN and are spreading falsehoods at the behest of SATAN to mislead all (?)good(?) chis chens
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Man of God
I do not understand your comments. I would appreciate a response to just the first point. I wrote our God is 3 into one. I assumed by writing 'our God,' thinking that I was writing to belivers in the words of the Bible, which is how we learn of the message of the God, the Father of Jesus, and in turn the history of the story of this universe he has created and all that is in it. Are you writing to say that, that God - The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit are not one? That this teaching is not in the Bible? I chose not to use paragraphs. I used periods and comas as a point to stop and think. I chose not to use a lot of scripture because my message is meant for believers who reads, study and meditate on his message to the world. Nothing I wrote is false.
My question is this. Are you okay? You used paragraphs, but with poor diction. Why complain when you do not use caps correctly. Why write the word God, the way you do? Why say what I wrote is in cahoots with Satan when nothing I wrote is a falsehood. Why did you capitalize the word for Satan and wrote God with only a capital D, at the end? Who are YOU, really?
I am not going anywhere, until my Lord and Savior discharges me from this life.
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Lisbeth Kieran Bushey
I'm super happy this article has nothing but respect for Dylan & her journey! So many other religious groups out there have been nothing but cruel to her, misgendering her and using all kinds of hateful, bigoted rhetoric. This article respects her pronouns, doesn't engage in harmful or bigoted rhetoric, and focuses instead on the human aspect. Dylan is an absolutely lovely woman, and I'm not surprised she's Christian. She definitely lives and expresses the values that Christ asked His followers to abide by - loving one another, etc.She's absolutely correct - the god of the Christians does not make mistakes and humankind was created in His image - which means ALL HUMANKIND. Trans, other LGBTQIA+, racial differences, disabilities, all made in the image of God (according to the Bible).
Have the followers of Christ really strayed so far from Him that they no longer live by or understand The Word? I may be a Wiccan/Pagan priest now, but I was raised in the Church and have extensively studied the Bible. Modern "christians" are so far from what Christ commanded it no longer resembles Christianity. Heck, the Satanists, Wiccans/Pagans, and ATHEISTS live and act in a more Christian manner than those that call themselves "christians". Christians, God has already told you humankind is made in His image and to love one another. Remove the planks from your eyes so you may better see The Word, rip out the headphones blaring hateful rhetoric so you may hear God himself rather than false prophets calling themselves "preachers", and open your hearts so you may love your neighbors as God commanded.Rev. K. Lee Bushey
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Tyra Jayde Anderson
I agree, I believe God doesn't make mistakes. What I think happens when gender dysphoria occurs is that NATURE has made a mistake, gotten confused and/or something molecular has occurred during the formation and growth of the fetus within the womb. Where/how does God fit in here? God has instilled in this child, before birth, the strength, vision, self-awareness and faith to follow this difficult path to completion. Continuing the path of faith and trust in God instills the strength and faith needed to fight for themselves and their brothers and sisters on the same path.
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J E Del Rio
Dylan Mulvaney is a MAN playing a game with real women lives and rights he can take off his girl mask anytime he wants and real women can not, transgender vs hermaphrodite and the Difference Between Hermaphrodite and Transgender What is the difference between Hermaphrodite and Transgender? • Hermaphrodite is an individual or else an organism that has both male and female reproductive organs. When it comes to human beings, this is very rare. If a person is Hermaphrodite, both the testicular and ovarian tissues can be seen in the person. Such individuals face a lot of discrimination in the society due to their gendered nonconformity in the eyes of the society. It is often difficult to assign such a person to a particular sex. • Transgender refers to an individual who is born in one particular sex but FEELS that he or she belongs to the opposite. A MAN THAT FEELS AS A WOMEN IS STILL A MAN! and the other way around, than Compared to a Lesbian, a Gay, or Bisexual
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Daniel Todd Kamm
There are no mistakes, no absolutes, only existence, growth, change, and evolution and more life. Why some people are uncomfortable with other peoples' journeys through the mysteries is a mystery to me. The people they disapprove of are well on their own journeys. The ones who disapprove, I hope they free themselves from their discomfort before they sink into the bogs they have made for themselves. Before they are left behind.
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Marie Palaganas Boston
After reading so very many ugly comments, as a Born Again Christian originally from San Francisco, California, I have one thing to say: Judge the sin not the sinner. In other words, if you don't agree, don't live that way. If you disagree with someone, instead of hating & judging, pray for them in your private time with your Lord & Savior. You'd be surprised what HE will do through your prayers.
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Keith
God said, Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. These are Gods words! I believe that God knows who we are before our birth. He knows the path our lives will take. With that being said, I think God wants us all to live our authentic life without suppression and judgement.
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Marie Palaganas Boston
After reading so very many ugly comments, as a Born Again Christian originally from San Francisco, California, I have one thing to say: Judge the sin not the sinner. In other words, if you don't agree, don't live that way. If you disagree with someone, instead of hating & judging, pray for them in your private time with your Lord & Savior. You'd be surprised what HE will do through your prayers.
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Doctor Loyal
Thank you, Marie, for wise words we ALL can take to heart !! It would be most excellent if more people acted as you suggest.
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Jessica Costello
I am not one to quote scripture, because I am not Christian. But if there is one thing my good Christian mother instilled in me it is this:
Mark 12:31 ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
The hate in this comment section by people who do not try and know their neighbors is sad, and a reflection of their own sadness.
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Michelle
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Katelynne Shouse
What the What???? You're so wrong you could never be right!
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Michael Hunt
This is not grooming children. Telling children that a transgender person exists, or that gay people exist, or that straight people exist for that matter is not grooming. Grooming in the sense that you are describing is befriending and establishing an emotional connection with a child under the age of consent, and sometimes the child's family, to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse.
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Lionheart
Yes, parents even groom children to believe in something that they have no idea is real or not. A God, or Santa Clause are just two. Fairies, Gnomes, and pixies are others. I agree, with you it's abuse.
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Rev Hunt
there are even organizations set up to do what you are describing: The Catholic Church Boy Scouts of America Evangelical/born again ministers, preachers, gopper politicans
not to mention (usually single but sometimes married) men who visit: Thailand (for the weather, or the scenery, etc...) high school swim events high school wrestling events
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Daniel Gray
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Katelynne Shouse
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Daniel Gray
poor child, is that the best you can do is an emoji when you have nothing to refute me with?
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Reinaldo Medina
God did not make a mistake on him. He made an abysmal mistake on God. He can believe whatever he wants but there is only "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus," And that's the bottom line because The Sovereign of the Universe says so!
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Michael Hunt
Your god sucks, then, Miss Reinaldo.
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Lynette Surwald
God does have a plan for everyone. We all make choices and there isn't a person in this world that another person says, "I would make every one of the choices you have made", we all have people scratching their heads about some of the things we have done. But that does not remove our beautiful soles, or the love that we receive. Trans gendering is not a comfortable subject for many, but in the end, it does not change the love that we receive from our Father. This is not a road that I would have taken, nor do I understand, but I myself, have my own routes in my life in the pursuit of finding "Lyn". I have many past sins that are forgiven, and many more to come that additionaly are already forgiven. Too bad I keep smacking myself over the head for them, I truly wish the gift of self-grace, and the grace for others is given and accepted by everyone. God has already given the grace, come on Lyn, accept it and learn from your path (man I am hard headed in this area). I will definitely take prayers for that :-)
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James Lynn Jones
I don't care. It doesn't affect my life. Stay off my property. Don't 'F' with me. I 'F' back.
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James Riggle-Johnson
The funniest thing about this is all the people switching beers they drink and not realizing those other beers support the LBGTQ community just as much as Bud Light.
As for being transgender... Long ago when the “T” was added to “LGB” I said to a friend, how can someone be transgender? They were born a man or women. He asked me how you can be gay. I said because I am. I had never been attracted to women. It wasn’t until then that I understood being transgender wasn’t a choice, they just felt different and who was I to say they shouldn’t feel different? It was that simple. Just as I knew that I was gay and I don’t believe God will judge me badly for that, I don’t think God will judge them either. God cares and will judge me on how I treat others.
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Nancy Jane Stevenson
No mistake, the only mistake here is hatred for people who are different.
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Bernie James Rocheleau
One correction on a detail in the story. It's often reported that "country musicians announced they’d no longer sell Bud Light at concerts." That's not true. The musicians have little or no say at what gets sold at the concert venues. That's up to the venue and the promoters. In this case what actually happened is the artists took Bud Light off their backstage beverage list which is the complimentary (required in the contract) beverages served to the bands and staff backstage. It's a very small number.
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Anne 'Arie
If Anheuser Busch didn't want to get caught up in all this drama they should have stayed out of the fray. Although I don't believe that school children should be encouraged to get sex change operations because they feel like they would rather be the opposite sex today, I have no problem with adults doing whatever they are willing to pay for to make themselves feel better about their won body. When they start dictating what someone else should or shouldn't do, I draw the line. People would be better off minding their own business and businesses would be better off selling their products without taking stands on hotbed issues. A lot of places have lost a lot of business because they refused to honor the rights of people to live their individual lives as they choose.
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Joseph Knopick
God doesn't make mistakes. Either they are correct and God made them trans, or God didn't make them trans and they are delusional.
God is perfect, therefore doesn't ere. The lie that became a delusion. God made a mistake. What is required to change the image of God in a person is astounding. Hormones, chemicals, and elective surgery. Yet if we take a stem cell from the transitioned person and clone it. We get the person that God has originally constructed, the original image of God in that young man.
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Daniel J Collins
I believe as a person of Faith of the Creator and the Son that none of us will be there at this persons final life review and none of us will know for certain any others intent in their life...that is for them to reveal and discuss with the Creator at that chosen time....when we send hate or a negative to another for their usage of the greatest gift that has been provided to us by our Creator the gift of FREEWILL, we also become inflicted with sin due to this act on our part...be careful in how you interpret that word...it is a guide written with opinion that overshadows the underlying message of it all...love one another and do good....
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Nicholas Peter Christopher
One of the biggest problems with this issue is politics. Politics, politicians want the public to not believe their eyes anymore. For instance, that is a woman not a man or Biden won the election when he clearly didn’t. In order to control us, they need us to not believe our eyes. God does not make mistakes and all people are God’s creations and should be treated as such. I have no problem interacting with any of these alphabet soup people, but when it comes to relationships, one can’t expect another to not believe their own eyes.
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Michael Hunt
Newsflash: Biden won the 2020 election. There was no widespread voter fraud. Fox News just agreed to pay a massive settlement because they lied repeatedly claiming Dominion voting machines were rigging the election when behind closed doors they knew those claims were completely false.
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Daniel-David
We depend on the eyes and ears of those people with more knowledge and experience than we have. “Biden won the election, ‘when he clearly did not…’
Are you taking that on faith, or opinion, or have you been influenced by the various media posts? Or were you up in Montana waiting for the Spirit of God to come through the walls and declare DJT the victor by a diving announcement?
That’s the very thing Jesus’s mother and brothers asked themselves while trying to find Jesus: ‘Is he out of his mind?’
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Lionheart
Do you have any supporting evidence, Nicholas, to support your claim that your particular god exists, or did you read it in a book somewhere?
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Rhyannon Quilla Brightwater
So many opinions, so much hate in the name of "God" but let's just call it what it is: hateful bigotry toward someone not like you and that you want to be erased. Deity does not have gender. True spiritual people would check themselves and ask themselves why am i so hot and bothered by this person? What does my reaction tell me about myself and who i am, my relationship with god/dess? If i dont love my neighbor who i can see i dont really love god who is unseen...how can i see the divine in the world? These are signs of spiritual maturity. Judging and preaching to others is self righteousness and a sign that growth is needed. What would Jesus do? Being transgender is not a sin, but hating our neighbor is.
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James Riggle-Johnson
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Doctor Loyal
What would Jesus do?
There is the crux, indeed.
To the best of my knowledge from studies of this person, "Jesus", I would not hesitate to say that Jesus would take this entire pointless "Conflict" and make a Parable concerning the issue, and then would have another, "Sermon On The Mount" where He would Reasonably present the issue and then leave his followers and opponents both in a quandary that yet future Generations could reasonably discuss without hate, anger or fear.
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Robin Cohen
Humans... be who you are! The Bible was written by humans! What the 1st Bible didn't appeal to some, they wrote a new Bible. That didn't work for everyone, so another human wrote another book to follow. Just be human!
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Thomas P. Davis
It was written by 40 different people on 5 different continents over a period of 1500 years, those people were inspired by the Holy Ghost. Yes, many versions today are corrupt, the original was not. People can't make money off of the original, so they need to take out a new copyright. To take out a new copy right you need to change the original by 10 or 20 %, I don't remember for sure. People will do anything for the buck.
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Merlin
GOD made all.
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Amber Fry
I would say a person is definitely born with whatever orientation they are and it isn't anyone else's business how they present that. I wouldn't say it's a mistake but more something that is entirely between the trans and whatever form of god they pray to.
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Dr. Darryl G Dykes
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Diane Marie Bingham
So glad I followed the Eastern teachings of " I am not this body, I am pure spirit-soul" " part and parcel of the Supreme Lord". That being said, all bodies are both male and female,with one predominating. We, as soul (atma), are all given free will by our Creator. You can choose to go under the knife or not. In any case, there's a chance when this body is finished you can return in another. Patience? Or we can ask, "what am I learning through the body I was given or did I choose it, and why"? Purity of heart is more important than what temporary costume you are in.
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Carolyn W. Murphy
I am a strong believer that God doesn’t make mistakes, whatever He made you in your mother’s womb is who He intended you to be!!! His Word says BEFORE I FORMED YOU IN YOUR MOTHER’S WOMB I KNEW YOU & with that being said He knew your gender and He made you just what He knew you to be!!! I love all people, but I will not agree with sin no matter who it is!!! God is Gracious and Merciful, but if we are going to live by His Word live by it and don’t change it to fit your situation!!!
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Guy Sutherland McLaren
I have been on the planet for 58 years, In that time I have met two people that I would consider transgender, one has done the whole plumbing operation and he is now able to grow a better beard than my son. The other is a long time ago, a young girl that taped up her bosoms, We all thought it weird but back in the 80's we let people be what they wanted unless they were trying to include us in their issues.
I spoke to her/him a few times because I was curious, I don't recall anyone being a bully. I met a few gay people in my life and have always considered them to be human, Only one of them was ever attacked but that was because he was caught with a kid. He tried me at 16 and was told in no uncertain terms to **** off.
I remember all the people using the argument that slippery slopes don't occur. Back then being a gay man was apparently dangerous, and I heard about gay bashing but never actually met anyone that had been bashed, or any one that admitted to assaulting such people.
They were there on the fringes of society and as long as they left us alone, we left them alone.
The gay marraige debate occurred in my part of the world and I was pro, because a) Nobody was going to make me amarry a bloke, and b) what you do in your bedroom is none of my business as long as you leave kids, animals and retards out of it.
The slippery slope argument was refuted, and the LGB people added more letters to their acronym, They started asking for special dispensations and trying to shame the rest of us. That slippery slope turned into an avalanche and I am waiting for them to make being gay compulsary. I know the Pedophiles are trying to go mainstream, and we are told we are afraid of men in frocks if we choose to date real women.
I have no dog in the fight, I am neither religious, nor am I an alphabet person, As far as I am concerned you can be who you want, worship who you want, just leave me the **** alone and we can live in peace.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
all of that and you still can't see how you are actually the problem here, shame.
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Guy Sutherland McLaren
How exactly am I the problem? I believe in live and let live, if you leave me alone, I won't bother you. Should I be a pride flag waving alphabet person to be correct?
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Marion Wolfe
You may used to have believed in live and let live, but it's clear you've been suckered into thinking that anyone wants to "make being gay cumpulsary" (your misspelling). I've seen plenty of fence-sitters like yourself get lured into conservative savagery just for being gullible enough to believe what they see on a TV or computer screen.
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Guy Sutherland McLaren
OK, at your behest I will go out and beat up some trannies next week, How to read something that is not there. The example you picked on was me talking about the slippery slope that exists, I predict thatwe will not be able to call MAP pedophiles within 15 years.
If anyone doesn't trust the media and doesn't identify as conservative, it's me, but I don't identify and liberal either. I fit in that no mans land where I look at all of you as nuts.
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Marion Wolfe
So you're transphobic as well; I can't say that anyone here will be surprised by that.
You may not identify as conservative, but you are. You're not some special case; you're a sucker who got duped into thinking you're different.
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Thomas P. Davis
I am glad you had pleasant experiences with them. My two encounters, one when I was five and the other in college was not. There are other men in my workplace that have had similar experiences. I am not saying that all of them are that way either. Let's not generalize.
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Guy Sutherland McLaren
One of my experiences was less than good, but would I blame all women because one girl kneed me in the nuts when I was 16?
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Thomas P. Davis
I wasn't blaming anyone. I was just replying that sometimes these instances happen to innocent children who do not have the ability to say no or are led to believe that it is good. From the articles that I have read and the programs that I have watched, many of those perpetrators went through the same abuse when they were young. The doctors commented to the auditorium of people that when you see an individual with multiple tattoos or body piercings, that you can take it as a red flag that they were molested when they were young. I met one of those individuals last year when having lunch.
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Michael R Smith
Do not be fooled by this. God did not make a mistake, this person has. For me, it is a blatent act of disrespect to God. Born a male, remains a male, born a female remains a female. Transition is not a word God would allow, unless you are transitioning from a sinner to God's holy word and commandments.
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Jeremy Dax Herrera
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Michael Hunt
And how do you know that god didn't make Dylan to be a transwoman? How do you know that she is not exactly who god made her to be? Are you the arbiter of gods thoughts? What say you, Miss Jeremy?
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Jeremy Dax Herrera
So in your view, a murder was made a murder by God, that person didn't have free will to break God's commandments because your god made him that way. As the Bible states, God makes us perfectly in our mother's womb. As such, Dylan made himself into a transwoman, not God.
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Michael Hunt
She has always been a transwoman since being in the womb. It is us who have failed to see past their body and into their spirit.
I am saying nothing against freewill, Miss Jeremy, as we all have freewill. You have the freewill to believe a few thousand years old book written by men is divine truth and I have the freewill to think critically and tell you it's not.
What I am asking you, is how do you know that "God" did not make her to be a transwoman? By what measure are you able to know exactly how "God" made her?
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Thomas P. Davis
Not sure if Dylan did it alone or circumstances in the life caused it. I have always felt guilty because of how I was raised. Why did I have one set of parents, why did I have a roof over my head, why did I have food in my belly, etc. etc. instead of being born in a country with no parents, or home, or food or water, having bombs dropping on my head every day.
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Michael J McDermott
I agree with you that in that Dylan made the decision to choose the transgender way of life. And you are correct that we should leave the judging to God. However, it's not likely Dylan has not accepted our Lord Jesus into his heart. If a person sincerely accepts Jesus into his heart and truly repents of his sins, he will make a 180 degree turn with his life and stop is sinful ways. Not only is Homosexual practice a sin it is an abomination in God's eyes.
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Jeremy Dax Herrera
I agree with you about the homosexuality. I may not have stated that in my original post, but I can't even check what I wrote because it would appear I have the wrong opinions and free of speech does not apply here.
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This is just soooo sad. None of Us, living in sin will force JESUS CHRIST to accept us and our abominable ways of living except we repent and turn from our wicked ways, and repeat those same, disgusting sins no more.
He has a choice. Transgenderism is a spirit from the pits of hell! If he wants to truly be forgiven, he needs to deny himself, {his lustful passions and crossed, confusing, sinful way of living as a female, GET RID OF THAT DEMONIC SPIRIT!) take up his cross, and follow JESUS CHRIST.
The love and acceptance of man does not give him a 'pass' into heaven with GOD ALMIGHTY! Only JESUS CHRIST Can Clear Us ALL! Before His Heavenly Father.
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death! Transgenderism Is One of Them!
If that young man should pass away in his prideful, unrepentant sins, he'll open his eyes wide in hell! It's his choice! Same thing for every last one of us, in this life! Selah! AMEN! HOLY GHOST!
This is my Last and Final Contribution to any Post of this Sort! Exhaling ....... 4.25.2023
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
why is it chrs chins like yourself always demand that others follow, do and believe as you yet you have absolutely NO respect for anyone else's beliefs. do you understand just how fn rude and condescending that is? you preaching your crapazznonsense here as if you hold the ultimate truth and flash...ya don't. your beliefs are no more true or holy than anyone elses and in fact, that you hold others of differing beliefs in so little regard that every time you open your mouth to preach you OFFEND your GOD. yup, that simple, you offend the goD you believe exists because you and people like you are just so bigoted and offensive and mean and hateful. you are the root cause of all the problems you perceive to be the fault of others
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Johnnie Roberte Lambert
Thank the Goddess!!! Go away.
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Rhyannon Quilla Brightwater
So happy for your confidence in others eternal fate/god's judgement. It must be comforting to have such confidence. As for me I don't believe in the fairytale of heaven or boogeyman of hell. I just try to live my own life and leave others to theirs. And if there is any judgement it is to be by myself on my own thoughts, words, and deeds.
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Michael Hunt
Bye, Felicia.
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Michael Holland
Change happens, people need to get over it!
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Michael R Smith
Change happens? This is not a change, it's an abomination. So, a person decides to "transition" from one gender to another. Tell me where in God's word is this acceptable?
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Daniel-David
How about changing the vocabulary from: transition to transformation.
As a retired Hospice chaplain, I have indeed seen families and patients being transformed, as Paul writes: ‘I the blink of an eye.’
Not only are we, as religious people of faith, not to judge but to help lay the groundwork for that exact process.
The finger pointing and the blaming are not helpful nor necessary.
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Wellness Counselor
If you see a mistake, it is in your own perception. The physical body has no authority over the spirit. Judging is hard, we have the easy job!
“He was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize him. He came to his own, and His own did not receive Him. But to all who did receive Him, to those who believe in His name, He gave the right to become children of God.” - John 1:10-12
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
I've come to realize that xtianity is a school that teaches who and how to hate. so many cry chins get so easily upset with things going on around them that they don't understand, or approve of. not saying you have to have a trans person to dinner, or vote for a trans but beyond that you do not have the power to cancel them, to harass them, to injure or threaten them. same for gays, people of color, immigrants, the greater world at large that is NOT x tian.
anyone here who has deigned to weigh in and explain why everyone else is going to hell, are being deceived by Satan (Ave Satanas), following the anti-crust, et al are literally the reason the world is going to (figurative) hell because those hate everyone else...FFS they poor people, homeless people, immigrant people. they apparently only love unborn babies and white men with AR-15s. hypocrites the lot of y'all
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
always impressed the number of people that know goD's mind. simply stunning.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
1- Agree fully that god doesn’t make mistakes. In the same way that Santa doesn’t make mistakes. 2- Even though god doesn’t make mistakes he sure has included a lot of ‘undocumented design features’ that cause problems for many creatures. Then there are birth defects that cause pain and suffering. Not sure how that works into his overall plan, but he does work in mysterious ways, doesn’t he? 3- If god had anything to do with that one ‘smile’ in Oli London’s post, well, someone else is going to have to explain away that ugly thing.
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Rev. Dr. G. Waldron
Dr., I agree with your post, but please capitalize God.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
If you agree with my post then you should understand why I never capitalize god except by mistake, auto-correct or dictation.
It’s true that god, like Santa, can’t make mistakes….bc neither exist.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Bud Lite, the beer of Christians. But there are so few Christians Bud is having to seek other markets.
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Dr. Darryl G Dykes
Christians do drink beer and other alcoholic beverages. God never said do not drink alcohol. Christ made water into wine at the wedding. God only said do not be a drunkard, a drunkard is someone who stays drunk and denies his obligations to his family. Only desires to be drunk and not serving God.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Dr. Darryl G Dykes You are mistaken. Only some Christians are allowed to drink alcohol and YES God did say not to drink alcohol. It just depends which book you believe is the word of God. Muslims and Mormons were both told NOT to drink alcohol by God and have it written in a book from God to prove it. And all three books claim to be the final authoritative word of God. It just depends which Christian religion YOU believe is the word of God.
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Thomas P. Davis
If you read the bible it says "Pro 23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, Yes He made wine at the marriage feast. But it was not alcoholic. That was the miracle, new wine fresh from the vine was only available at grape harvest time. They needed to process it so it would not ferment, if they wanted to store it all year. So, during the remainder of the year they would water this mixture down to drink it. I used to make wine. That white coating on grapes is wild yeast, most of which would turn the must into vinegar. The wine He produced was fresh from the vine. Isa 65:8 Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, those wedding feasts lasted all day and children also participated in them. Someone who is inebriated later in the day from drinking real alcohol would never be able to taste the difference. Do you really think He would make 120 gallons of alcohol so people could crash their chariots on the way home, kick their pets and smack their spouses around in their drunken stupor?
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Marion Wolfe
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Lionheart
Noah was a drunkard, and he seemed to support him, more than the babies, children, and pregnant mothers that would have died in the flood, if that story was real. So, I guess he’s ok with drunkards, that’s if he’s real 🤷🏼
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Parson Golden
Of course not, God made her in his own image!
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
Religion, is the attempt to personify nature.
And, nature via evolution, never makes mistakes — because what’s contemporaneously categorized as a mistake, science calls a mutation.
And, without mutations, we primates would still be hanging out in trees,
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Rev. MichaelRS
Very true. God had absolutely nothing to do with making Dylan that way.
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Daniel Todd Kamm
Amazing what a promotional can of beer is capable of in the wrong hands!
Franklin Graham's conceit versus his father's humility? Enough said.
William Wolfe's concern about mocking women? How about a woman's right to her own body and reproduction?
Kid Rock? Please. Celebrity Fly and MAGGATE... the music ain't so great either.
There is no "mistake" in Creation. Any anomaly, diversification, mutation, whatever, exists and evolves whether people are paying attention to it or approve or not.
Which is why "There are more things in heaven and earth..." And then some.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Thank you. I couldn't agree more. If God made a mistake with a transgender, how do you explain the intersex or ambiguous genetalia? There are nearly as many of those born every year as "out" transgenders. When someone who was dear to me (a transgender) asked me why God made a mistake when he was born, I simply replied, "It was not a mistake. It is your purpose to figure out what to do about it. Since you believe you are to live as a man, you are a man, and do not let anyone tell you anything different." The biggest question I have around this is how have we gotten so depraved as to be this obcessed about a person's genitals? I was born cis-female, and have only been attracted to men. To some that it normal, until I tell them that one of those men was a trans-man (that I happened to marry.) The love of my life would be arrested regardless of whatever bathroom he went into, if the trans-phobics had their way. Too bad he has a weak bladder (LOL).
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Colleen McAllister
I do believe in a Creator God. I do believe He does not make mistakes. I also believe that we live in a fallen world and these things happen randomly to help us learn. I have trouble with people who call something sinful or immoral while shooting a gun in anger and swearing. Or preachers who are concerned about a brewing company's reputation more than saved souls. All of us should be grateful for this young woman's faith and not worry about her looks. Keeping her faith in the midst of this transition is amazing. God has special plans for her.
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Daniel-David
“Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.” Jeremiah 34.3
As human beings created and sustained by God, we are called to love one another. That’s what both Testaments require.
In the parable of the Good Samaritan, he didn’t cross the road and ask, are you black, a skin-head, a despiser of Samaritans? He gave care, support and life back to this person who ‘fell among thieves.’
Jesus told his disciples, in the great Commission, to go and preach to all people, that God loves, cares, and will sustain all of us.
God knows when a sparrow falls, when the sun raises and sets. God’s answer to Job (38) ‘Where were you when I laid the foundations of the universe?”
The lion shall lay down with the lamb, the first shall be last. It takes a lot of effort, humility, strength and support to live out those dreams.
Don’t be second-guessing God.
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Holly Perloff
Absolutely. It is not our job to judge. God asks us to love one another. God doesn't make mistakes, we just are not prevey to his plan. Take a step back people. Who is the sinless that shall throw the first rock? God loves us all.
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Colleen McAllister
You're reply is only a list of Scriptures, not a real answer. I am not second-guessing God. I am simply believing Him.
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Colleen McAllister
You're reply is only a list of Scriptures, not a real answer. I am not second-guessing God. I am simply believing Him.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Colleen McAllister Don't you think God's dead? If God can no longer create things and people that are good God must be dead.
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Colleen McAllister
No I don't believe that God is dead. Creation ended with Adam and Eve. Since then God allows it to continue on. The reason evil men are born is because evil was let into the world by Adam and Eve, or rather we entered the non-perfect world when they sinned. Fallen world, fallen creation. Fallen creatures.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Colleen McAllister I'll have to say you are the first person I have ever meet that believes creation ended with Adam and Eve. Never heard that one before. If creation ended with Adam and Eve and was replaced by evolution there is no need for God. It also sounds as if you are saying God doesn't love what he created if God is letting it deuterate into a world of sin. No reason for anyone to follow the teachings of Christ if we live in a world of sin. If one is not a Christian, are they a sinner? I have no reason to believe that I'm a sinner.
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Colleen McAllister
No I don't believe that God is dead. Creation ended with Adam and Eve. Since then God allows it to continue on. The reason evil men are born is because evil was let into the world by Adam and Eve, or rather we entered the non-perfect world when they sinned. Fallen world, fallen creation. Fallen creatures.
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Colleen McAllister
No I don't believe that God is dead. Creation ended with Adam and Eve. Since then God allows it to continue on. The reason evil men are born is because evil was let into the world by Adam and Eve, or rather we entered the non-perfect world when they sinned. Fallen world, fallen creation. Fallen creatures.
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Trouble is that it's a man wearing women's clothing and makeup. Not a woman by any stretch. Doesnt act like a woman, nothing like a woman. Dylan Mulvaney and his supporters have been given over to their delusions as God said he does to those who reject him. I can't think of anything more delusional than thinking a man is a woman. I suppose thinking God is happy with it is more delusional.
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Michael Hunt
Thinking God exists is more delusional. The spirit exists, not the Christian deity. God is a construct of man created to control the masses.
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Katelynne Shouse
And pray tell just exactly how you know what the US Government identifies Dylan as? Do you own a crystal ball of some sort that tells you such personal information???
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Daniel Gray
Its called a CENSUS, or did you seemingly ignore that fact?
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David Arthur Lewis
Q: Who Would Jesus Hate? A: Only rich men and tax collectors.
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Colleen McAllister
Jesus hated no one. He loved everyone.
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David Arthur Lewis
Tell that to the money changers in the temple.
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Amber Fry
I don't think he hated. I think the better question is who would he defend and support. By all accounts he tends to side with the poor, the sick, the homeless, the downtrodden against those who would harm them in any way.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@David Arthur Lewis Q: Who Would Jesus Hate? Don't forget Christians. All they seem to be doing is spreading hate in Jesus's name.
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High Priest Ricky T
I feel like if Jesus were to somehow magically come back today he would go off on christians the same way Martin Luthier King Jr went off on the black community in that one episode of The Boondocks. Sky daddy jr would not be too happy about the very not kosher things done in his name. I'm sure the second he would come back he would be running to find a Rabbi for help.
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Katelynne Shouse
Transgender People Exist! We Will Not Be Erased By Transphobic Christofascist Nationalist!! PERIOD!!!
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Katelynne Shouse Sad that "Christian" people can't accept and love ALL of God's creations and follow the teaching of Jesus. Christians may not like it, but transgender people exist and have existed since the time of Jesus. With all of this Christian hatred God is dead.
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Joseph Knopick
Transgender people have existed for how long? Fifty years, maybe?
It's a first world issue.
Our convenience has allowed for idleness. If we were in an era like before the great depression, when you spent most days working the farm, very few if any persons would have had the time to actually ask the nonsensical question, did God, make me a boy by mistake?
There may have been some transgenderism in say ancient Rome, but amongst the elite and decadent perverts of the wealthy and powerful, Caesar Tiberius would have them as sex slaves.
It isn't natural and it isn't right.
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James Riggle-Johnson
People questioning their sex at birth has existed since the beginning of time. It may not have been as complicated as transgenderism today, but it was there. Transgender has only become known because of the internet. Before that they were just known by the people they met. Who are WE to decide what is right regarding sexual orientation or identity. If you think it's wrong and God will judge them then let God judge. It's not your place to do so.
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Anglia Key
The Bible tells us that the only ones who have judgment rights, are those free of sin. There has only been one (1) being to walk this world void of sin and He gave his life for us. I'm no Saint. I cuss (a lot) do things I know better than to do, but thankfully Jesus forgives it all. I have no right to judge. That's God's job, not mine. I have transgender son.He knows my faith and we leave it at that. Nothing he will ever do will ever turn my heart away. I agree with you comment 120%
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Thomas P. Davis
Yes, He is the only one who can judge, because He is the only one who knows the heart. But He also says. Eze 33:3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; Eze 33:4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. Eze 33:5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. Eze 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. So, just as our Saviour who is not willing that any should perish, we too should have the same compassion and tell those when they are on the wrong path.
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The Talmud, a text much older than the Bible, mentioned more than 2 genders. Man and female were primary, but androgynous, A-sexual, transitioning as you age...these were referenced. It's stated these people will inherently have a difficult life, so we should find compassion and acceptance towards them.
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Daniel Gray
Sorry, no it does not. It specifically mentions TWO genders only Male and female. And you seemingly ignore the fact that your source is nothing more then debates "The Talmud is a record of the rabbinic debates in the 2nd-5th century on the teachings of the Torah" meaning that the Torah is still the supreme set of rules and it still only mentions 2 sexes.
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So... let me get this right. You think, transfolks have not existed for more than 50 years. (Side bar: This is factually inaccurate and as as far back as the early 1900's it was already the subject of formal research, including HRT and social transition.) But we also did exist in ancient Rome but were the subject of enslavement? (Side bar: in the western world, medical transition has been documented as far back as ancient Greece, by the way.)
So which is it? Is it a new thing entirely or have we always been the victims of persecution?
Also, it's obviously not a "first world problem" and to say this simply negates the existence of transfolks the world over.
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Ellie Will
It couldn't be more natural.
Most animal species demonstrate a variety of 'gender behaviors.' The temperature of turtle egg nests determines sexes of the offspring. When resources become limited (such as food), gender AND SEXES have been observed to change.
Other cultures on this planet recognize other gender constructs including Judaism from which Christianity developed.
Humanity benefits from DIVERSITY. Check yourself before you wreck yourself, Sosev.
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Warren Calvin Wall
Perhaps you should take a world history refresher. Trans people have quite an extensive history all over the world. They weren't called trans-sexual as that is a very recent description. The transition surgery is a very recent modern process as well. There were, of course, castration and mastectomy but it was seldomly done voluntarily. I'm over 50 and trans people and drag queens were very well established when I was quite young. I was also acquainted with a few as a close family friend was gay and associated with several. It is most assuredly not a recent advent. The recent aspect is that they no longer are physically attacked openly in public without repercussion. I am not anti gay or trans by any means. It's none of my business. The thing that I object to is attempting to normalize it with children. There are many gay and trans people today that are also protesting against exposing children to their ideology. It's an adult matter that requires adults to make these decisions. It is not for a child to make a life changing decision. This is why they are called "minors". They are not capable of making "major" decisions for themselves. Any adult and medical doctor that allows or performs trans-sexual treatments to ANY minor needs to be criminally charged. Period.
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Katelynne Shouse
Pfffffft.....keep your "religious beliefs" off of my REALITY!
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Sosev Menw May I ask why you think Transgender people have only been around for 50 years? Is this something you were told? Or is this just something you believe?
If you do a bit of research you will find Transgender people have been around far longer than just 50 years. Try doing a bit of research before posting incorrect information.
Even better is listen to people who were born transgender and didn't even know it until they were adults. There are two women who gave TED talks about what it was like have breasts, a vagina, overlies, and testicles.
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Rhyannon Quilla Brightwater
Trans people are beautiful children of God/Goddess and deserve the same respect as any other person.
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Thomas P. Davis
Amen, they are beautiful children of God, He loves each and every one of us and they do deserve the same respect, but that does not negate what the bible tells us, that the world will be like towards the end of time. Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. My heart goes out to the ones that made the changes and later committed suicide because they were not happy with those changes.
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Daniel Gray
Nobody says you have to, but when you start shoving this in the face of people and demanding that you be accepted or else, this is what you get. You DONT threaten the people you are trying to get to accept you
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Asa William Sprague, II
The only people shoving transgender people in your face are the protesters.
The Dylan Mulvaney/Bud Light video was not broadcast over airwaves or cable stations.
If not for conservative outrage, you wouldn't have heard a peep.
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Daniel Gray
Really? Tell that to the people who Michelle Risher or Sarah McBride or Lia Thomas keep shoving it in their face.
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Asa William Sprague, II
Michelle Risher, Sarah McBride, Lia Thomas and every other American has a right to speak up about actions, attitudes and legislation that harms other Americans.
What threats have transgender people made? I have neither seen nor heard any transgender person threaten others with any kind of physical harm.
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Daniel Gray
And how isnt it harmful to allow a biological male to play in female sports, thus harming the females?
Your reasoning isnt up to snuff.
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Asa William Sprague, II
Certainly less harmfull than forcing people to live out of sync with their body's biology.
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Karl J. Sobczak
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Daniel Gray
Try shooting children in nashville and try threatening to shoot kids in Florida.
Do pay attention to the news.
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Asa William Sprague, II
Since I do pay attention to the news, as well as statistics, it is plainly and painfully obvious that non-trans people are the bigger threat to children being shot or threatened.
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Daniel Gray
Really? The please explain why numerous "Pride" parades all over the US have been stopped because the organizers of said parades were upset that children were not going to be allowed? WHY is it that the Olympic and Track and Field and Soccer commissions as well as College Sports have all said and ruled that Trans people CANNOT compete in any sport if they have gone through puberty in one sex and then changed to another.
Seems a major portion of the world does not agree with you and your opinion and you still cant refute the simple fact that the instances I mentioned were all done by TRANS people
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Asa William Sprague, II
That is all non sequitur. None of what you just said has anything to do with my previous comment: Trans-people are less of a threat to children being shot or threatened than non-trans-people.
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Daniel Gray
yes it does. You are trying to agree with Dylan that God didnt make a mistake with him. Ok here is a slap of reality...Dylan was born MALE and since DYLAN decided to change this (and he still has not had the bottom surgery) then clearly Dylan is lying through his teeth when he thinks he can do a better job of deciding then God did. Or God DID make a mistake as Dylan should have been born female, and he wasnt. Cant have it both ways Asa. And try and tell that to the two schools that were shot up by Trans people. I am sure the parents and family of the ones who died will agree with you....NOT
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Asa William Sprague, II
That "slap of reality" only exists in your limited view of what type of destiny God does or doesn't layout for each individual. For all any of us knows, Dylan is doing exactly what God wants.
Every school shooting is tragic, especially for the parents and family of the children who were murdered. The fact that you want to raise an alarm about two trans-people being mass shooters seems pretty shallow considering there have been more than 300 mass shooters over the past few years who are not / were not trans-people.
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Daniel Gray
Nope sorry Asa, but wrong again as usual. All you hear from the people defending Dylan is that "God dont make mistakes" Ok if that is fact then Dylan and the rest supporting him must think that God does make mistakes as Dylan was born a MALE. And CHOSE to dance around trying to make people think he is female. That is fact no matter if you like it or not. And no I am not claiming anything, I was responding to a post that said Trans people have never hurt kids, and that was proven to be an utter lie. You really should know what you are responding to before you respond.
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Stephanie A Willey
Daniel, no one is shoving anything in yours or anyone's face, except perhaps a reminder of that passage in our Declaration of Independence, "... We believe these truths to be self evident, that ALL are created EQUAL and endowed by THIER creator by certain inalienable rights, that among these rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness ..." Transgender persons being and living as who they are, as who they were created is nothing more or less than the the expression of that simple and most basic American ideal. Anyone, everyone who feels that we are all up in their face with our "transgenderism" (not a real word btw) are simply reacting to their own insensitivity, something the current far right in America refer to as "snow flakes". I'm reminded of a line from Shakespeare, :... thou dost pretest too much ..." meaning that a significant percentage of the individuals who speak loudest against the LGBTQA++ reality in our society are themselves struggling with and tormented by internalized homophobia and transphobia. There are many competent professional psychotherapists and behavioral therapists who can help them work through their internalized fears.
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Rhyannon Quilla Brightwater
Amen! No one is in your face because they are living their life and not hiding away in a corner.
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Daniel Gray
And this has nothing to do with anything. You want to be transgendered, fine. Just do not keep telling me over and over and over and over that you are and expect me to accept it as normal. So the rest of your post means nothing more then your opinion
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Warren Calvin Wall
Perhaps you should take a world history refresher. Trans people have quite an extensive history all over the world. They weren't called trans-sexual as that is a very recent description. The transition surgery is a very recent modern process as well. There were, of course, castration and mastectomy but it was seldomly done voluntarily. I'm over 50 and trans people and drag queens were very well established when I was quite young. I was also acquainted with a few as a close family friend was gay and associated with several. It is most assuredly not a recent advent. The recent aspect is that they no longer are physically attacked openly in public without repercussion. I am not anti gay or trans by any means. It's none of my business. The thing that I object to is attempting to normalize it with children. There are many gay and trans people today that are also protesting against exposing children to their ideology. It's an adult matter that requires adults to make these decisions. It is not for a child to make a life changing decision. This is why they are called "minors". They are not capable of making "major" decisions for themselves. Any adult and medical doctor that allows or performs trans-sexual treatments to ANY minor needs to be criminally charged. Period.
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Daniel Gray
Sure they were, and yet again you have made a statement and have provide no proof
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Warren Calvin Wall
You are mistaken. The push to include it in schools is, indeed, shoving it down peoples throats. There are gay and trans individuals that are speaking out against exposing children in school to their lifestyle. Most adults could care less about how you chose to live your life as long as you cause no harm to others. Introducing children to your sexual proclivities is definitely harm.
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Katelynne Shouse
First it isn't a "Lifestyle" any more than being born left handed or black has anything to do with a lifestyle, it just is; and those among the LGBTQ community who are "speaking" out are merely looking for their 15 minutes of fame, or rather shame. They are either self-haters or right wing nutbags....or both!
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Nicholas Peter Christopher
The United States declaration of independence clearly states,”all MEN are created equal. To modify that quote is indeed rewriting history and indeed shoving your transgenderism in peoples faces. Everybody has the right to life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness not the guarantee of happiness.
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Michael Hunt
I'm not quite sure omitting "men" from that quote is "shoving transgenderism in people's faces" as you claim. If anything, it's an attempt to capture the intent of the writers who were using "men" as an interchangeable term for all persons. Otherwise your last sentence would be inaccurate because according to the literal reading of the Declaration of Independence, only men are created equal and have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, not women. I think we can all agree that women should have the same rights and freedoms as men these days, regardless of if the Founding Fathers did or did not.
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Lloydean L. King
Once again: all MEN are created equal. I beg your pardon. Truly it should say "all are created equal."
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Guy Sutherland McLaren
Vegans never shove their bad ideas down anyones throat either right?
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Ellie Will
When a person or group is attacked JUST FOR EXISTING, militancy happens no matter how small or large the group may be.
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Daniel Gray
just remember that statement when people start attacking religions.
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Amber Fry
Nobody is shoving anything in anyone's face. Nobody ever said "or else" aside from those threatening the trans people to stop or else. Stop what? Expressing themselves? Being who they are? Nobody ever told the anti folks they had to be trans too. Accept it or not is up to anyone else. The point they ever made was that they are who they are and to leave them be. Attacking them or trying to outlaw them to force them to not be who they are is the harmful and aggressive bit.
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Daniel Gray
Again be whatever you want to be, but dont try and force me to accept it as normal and dont try and demand that I have to pay for your "adjustments" with my tax monies.
Its not rocket science.
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Rhyannon Quilla Brightwater
Why are YOU so upset about transgender people? Curious and hoping you can find some peace over this. I'm concerned about your health...this kind of animus is bad for blood pressure. Maybe some cleansing breaths and a mantra like "transpeople exist but they have no effect on my life. I am safe. I let go of my opinions about other people." Just some ideas. Truly wish you the best.
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Daniel Gray
And why are you speaking and not reading first. I have repeatedly said if you want to change your sex, then feel free. Just dont expect me to help you pay for it or somehow think its normal. I mean I was just walking through a bookstore yesterday and what did I see while browsing the Outdoor section of the magazines? right next to it I see something called Bride, and right on the front cover I see some hairy bearded guy all dressed up in bridalwear. Now if thats not forcing it in my face then what do you call it? And then you have a Transgender Minnesota lawmaker Finke introduces bill removing anti-pedophile language from state's Human Rights Act. So tell me if this is not trying to force your lifestyle into peoples faces, then why do this to get the name recognition?
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Rhyannon Quilla Brightwater
Daniel, no one forced you to look at the magazine cover. Other people have the right to exist and not conform to your ideas of who is valid. The topic of the article is a transgender woman, a human being of worth, who was celebrated by a company and then it became politicized by some and thereby made the world more dangerous for others who just want the same as you: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness The article has nothing to do with pedophilia! This was used as a tool to harm gay men in the past and now you are conflating this with transgender people. Shame on you. Pedophilia or any kind of sex where there is not a balance of power and choice is evil. Pedophilia is one of the worst offences done by very sick people. The greatest perpetrators of pedophilia are straight men. Are there deviants among gay men and transgender people? I'm sure there are but conflating two separate issues is hateful, promotes violence, and injustice. I read the article and your comments and again encourage to check your biases. Why is this such an issue for you? And why are you supporting hatred instead of acceptance? If pedophilia is your concern target that and find actions that promote protecting minors. Seriously consider looking deep, asking hard questions of yourself with assistance of a therapist if needed. PS. Do you know--really know-- a transgender person? That might give you some insight. Or read a book about or by a transgender person. People are people and we all have the same needs. Wishing you all the best.
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Daniel Gray
Sure they didnt, and if you believe that nonsense I have a bridge to sell you on the cheap. Why do you think men and women models fight so hard to get on the cover of a magazine EXCEPT to get in your face and force you to notice them. You clearly dont know the first thing about publishing so maybe you should ask a reporter why they post headlines in bold black letters...to grab your attention and force you to look and read. Same for the magazine covers. But hey you go right on ahead and believe your little fantasy and the people who print up the magazines and the models who are on the covers will just laugh at you like they have been doing all along
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Rhyannon Quilla Brightwater
Daniel, you seem to just be an angry person who needs something to complain about. Wishing you all the best. Goodbye, troll.
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Daniel Gray
No I stated fact and you seemingly cannot accept it as it goes against your world view. so the only troll I see here is the one who seemingly cant stop complaining even when they are wrong. Say hello next time you pass a mirror.
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ServantOfJudgement
@Katelynne Shouse Check history, God does the erasing, believers just issue the warning. @Douglas Robert Spindler Jesus most definitely and undeniably took issue against several human behavioral traits. True he loves us but that doesn't mean he loves what we do when we defile his temple and his word. "Christians" merely repeat his black and white words. Lots of people don't like God's word, primarily those that defy it.
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Jimmy Moon
I fully agree. GOD did not make a mistake. But, Satan has got you fooled into thinking you are a female. You are not. Check your DNA. It will show male. All these perverts are trying to rebel against GOD. It will happen for a season, then the judgement. You still have breath, so it’s not too late. Repent and GOD will save you from the pits of Hell.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
God is terminal and on life support. As Christians keep attacking God's creations they are just killing God and Christianity ever faster.
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Katelynne Shouse
BoogaBoogaBooga......keep your "beliefs" out of my reality!
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Michael Hunt
No.
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Alexander Arends
First of all, an international corporation that has consumers from all walks of life, has to be stupid to alienate any of its supporters. Why would they do such a thing? Are they totally out of touch with their base? The same goes for other vendors or organizations that decide to support a political issue.
Second, regarding accepting trans-gendered adults, it may be awkward but we need to accept them as fellow human beings, not as a different class of people.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Alexander Arends These companies use to be targeting and marketing to Christians. Market research is showing people rapidly turning away from the Christian religion because of all of the hate, sex abuse and scandals. The companies view God and religion to be on life support and terminal. They are trying to stay ahead of the market to continue making money.
Trans-gender people have been with us since the time of Jesus. Jesus accepted and welcomed trans-gendered people, sad that in over 2,000 years and Christians still can't love trans-gendered people like Jesus did.
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Alexander Arends
Not sure if Budweiser has been targeting Christians. More likely they have been targeting beer drinkers.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Alexander Arends You might be right, but seems to me a lot of Christians drink Bud. And with less Christians Bud is targeting a younger non-Christian market. And don't forget Christians don't have a very good image right now.
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Diane Minna LaFave
She hasn't done anything wrong. She's living life with energy and Faith. It's not up to us to judge nor condemn her.
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Daniel Gray
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Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
A bit of non sequitur here Daniel.
When my wife and I were living in Huber Heights from 91 - 96, took the brewery tour. Both of us are home brewers, BUT, very much appreciate AB's LOCK on process control.
I truly hope this does not roll over you.
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Daniel Gray
Not really its fact
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Daniel Gray
Huber Heights is up by Cleveland, thats well over 100 miles away from Columbus so one has nothing to do with the other
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Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
Tis why I labeled my comment a non sequitur and expressed my hope that the slump in sales would not affect your job.
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Daniel Gray
How would it effect me or my job? I dont drink beer and I retired from Chrysler and the US Military. Never worked for Bud and never will.
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Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
My apologies, I misunderstood your post.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
And many such as myself are spared the ordeal because THE PIST WAS DELETED!!
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Pedro Pagan Jr
We do not Judge, we only repeat what God say and his judgement in the end. Therefore take it up with THE HOLY SPIRIT that influenced the Apostles. My beef is why go to a Christian Church that opposed this lifestyle, when The LBGTQ+ can sponsor a CHURCH of APOLLO a Gay god.
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Doctor Loyal
Excellent Point Pedro !! Thank you for a moment of sanity and vision. The Bible is clear on God's stance on sexual line-crossing by both Males and Females.
Lets ponder for a moment the thought of founding a Religion or Changing one's Religion to match one's beliefs. To spit in the face of those whose beliefs you dislike or disagree with isn't constructive, it merely displays one's beliefs that "They" are "Right" and the Religion and all of it's followers are "Wrong".
Our Creator, no matter how you envision that "Creator" at least gave you a brain with which you could make a decision both fair, and equitable to ALL.
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
Apollo isn't gay. I actually believe the Olympians are neither gay nor straight.
Just like they aren't good or evil. They just are who they are. If a mortal catches their eye, an affair may happen.
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ServantOfJudgement
Charles Mason had energy and faith. Cartel drug lords definitely have energy and faith. Lots of people have energy and faith. That's no indicator of right and wrong, truth or fallacy. What is our energy and faith directed towards, truth or delusion?
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Nicholas Peter Christopher
HE hasn’t done anything wrong lol
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Nicholas J Page
Strange how trans people were NEVER in the news a few years back now it's common boring really are they all following suit.I have been a straight male all my life nearly 65 and I'm not going to change now I was bought into this world as a male and I'm going to leave it as a male.Never had an inkling to be a trans thanks 😊
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Michael Hunt
They were never in the news because coming out as transgender or gay could literally be a death sentence in some parts of the world. Now that the internet has made us more connected than ever, these people are able to recognize that they're not the only person who feels the way they do and that they're not alone, which, along with increased acceptance of the LGBTQ community, has given more people the confidence to live as their honest selves.
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Najah P Tamargo
I am a firm believer that there is ALWAYS room for compromise, understanding.....and LOVE. It's has just become more difficult in today's society as these zealots push hard on anything or anyone that is "different" or a variation of their specific belief systems. That is THEIR mistake, not God's.
A bit late on this as I am new on this site, but I have to say I do follow Dylan and I absolutely support her.
If people think God makes mistakes with trans, I am curious what people would think about an older sibling I have that was born with both genitalia down below, in full working order. Capable of getting pregnant or impregnating a woman, never had a gender chosen for him and when we found each other several years ago and he told me, he was afraid I would judge and all I said was "well, what do you want me to call you? My bro, my sis, or how about brodette?" He loved that I came up with brodette and that became our thing, but he was also shocked that I wasn't sickened or negatively impacted by the knowledge.
Those that think Dylan is a mistake, what would my brodette be, being born that way?
Honestly, I am glad that I found my path away from Christianity because all of my own experiences with it showed that it definitely was not for me, I do love my open minded and open hearted brother's and sisters that are Christian's but the zealots make it harder on those that really are good people to be seen and it makes me feel sad for those that are good people that get lumped in with the bad.