Between a global pandemic, economies on the brink of collapse, and Netflix introducing the world to Joe Exotic and Carole Baskin on Tiger King, we thought 2020 couldn’t get any worse. And yet, now we’re hearing reports of so-called ‘murder hornets’ reaching US shores. All this modern misfortune is very reminiscent of some very old biblical punishments.
The Old Testament tells the story of ten plagues set upon the Egyptians by God as retribution for enslaving the Israelites. And as the world tries to make sense of the ongoing coronavirus outbreak, some religious leaders have drawn comparisons to this biblical tale, arguing that Covid-19 is no ordinary disease – but instead part of a larger divine punishment for humanity’s sins.
Adding fuel to that fire, over the weekend researchers announced a frightening discovery: the arrival of Asian giant hornets in the United States, a deadly insect plague for the modern era. These nightmare-inducing insects can grow up to 2 inches long and are better known by the name “murder hornets”.
A "Plague of Locusts" for a New Age
Researchers are baffled as to how, exactly, the murder hornets made their way to the west coast of the United States. Several different colonies have already popped up in Washington State, and experts warn the hornets could soon spread to other areas.
Their alarming nickname comes from their incredibly painful (and sometimes deadly) sting that kills up to 50 people a year in Japan. And their stingers - longer than your average bee’s - can even pierce through beekeeper’s suits.
The hornets also prey on honeybee populations, leaving scientists worried they could decimate fragile ecosystems that rely on bee pollination. They can decimate a hive in a matter of hours as they behead the adults and eat the pupae.
Their sudden arrival has researchers worried about the massive threat they pose to both bee colonies and to human beings.
Insect plague out of nowhere, deadly pandemic… it’s all starting to sound a bit biblical. And some are saying that’s not coincidence.
Heaven-Sent Punishment
Many prominent religious leaders have already said that coronavirus is a punishment from God for sin.
Pastor Perry Stone of Voice of Evangelism ministries recently said that coronavirus was a punishment from God for legalized abortion and legalized gay marriage.
Rick Wiles, senior pastor at Flowing Springs Church in Vero Beach, California said that “God is about to purge a lot of sin off of this planet” with coronavirus. According to Wiles, coronavirus is heaven-sent punishment for “transgendering little children," “sexual immorality," and “the filth on our TV and movies.” Wiles’ online webshow has repeatedly received press credentials from the Trump Administration.
And Robert Jeffress, who is on President Trump’s Evangelical Advisory Board, said that coronavirus isn’t explicitly an end-times plague, but that “all natural disasters can ultimately be traced back to sin.” So not the end-of-days wrath of God, just your run-of-the-mill, everyday type of wrath of God.
Angry God or Just Coincidence?
So with a host of prominent pastors claiming God is punishing us with coronavirus, it’s not hard to see how a plague of giant murder hornets might be interpreted as the 2020 version of a plague of locusts (after all, the sequel’s always got to be bigger and better). And that will undoubtedly give more ammo to those who insist that 2020 is more than simple misfortune.
And given that we've only just hit May, there's a whole lot of year left for even more terrible things to happen.
What do you think? Are we just really, really unlucky in 2020, or did we anger a higher power?
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Helen Jean Knott
In my opinion I believe that this is just the beginning of what's to come. People don't believe because not only would they have to re-evaluate their lives but they would have to accept the fact that God does not accept everything we do because we want to do it.
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Alexander Clarke
Sounds like you belong in the Heaven's Gate or Jim Jones crowd.
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Saroya Commille Fanniel
Human intention is the most powerful creative force. It is yet one more of those attributes we share amidst Creation. Every culture has a tenant, story, 'saying', parable or 'teaching' in regard to it. Affirmations, meditation and visualization are a few of the newest additions to the long-time Cartesian-based mode of psychology that has been tested, retested and CAT scanned into their "legitimate" medical journals. It has been shown that what your Mind spends its most time thinking about is what will come forth. Yet, Christianity has the most recognized words describing it in their doctrine, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” Matthew 17:20-21. Therefore, if enough Minds focus on the activities and challenges taking place as being "the End Days", "Armageddon", "Tribulation" and etc. then that is what will be created. In my F-book group, I post reminders for the members to focus on what they WANT as opposed to what they do NOT WANT. However, in Western society we have been taught to think that way, "I DON'T want a selfish man/woman."; I DON'T want a crappy job." Guess what we usually get? If we keep our Minds open to the possibilities being limitless and infinite then any number of things can take place. "I WANT a loving man/woman in my Life."; even better, "My Heart is open to accept Love from those who give it freely." And, "I am fully capable of doing and being anything and everything."; in addition to, "I send Love and Light into the Heart of Universe and all sentient entities." ... "We are the ones we have been waiting for." --Hopi Prophesy
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Daniel Robert Bobay
It's hard for me to pin this on a God of forgiveness.
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Stephen F Roberts
Since Muslims execute homosexuals and flog people who are in same-sex marriages, how come they still get the coronavirus?
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CB Cuff
Asian giant hornets, mmmm.... and was this determined by Trump appointed researchers, rather than some with credibility? So now Japan is the enemy. Put that on the campaign agenda Donald. Maybe they flew in from Hawaii... disguised as Asian. It's truly amazing how the US is so exempt from bringing any harm to the planet. It's always someone else's fault.... where have I heard that before??
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James Hage
When the 10 plagues struck Egypt it was not a punishment for what the people had done. It was the pharaoh who refused to let the Hebrews go. It was their leader who incurred God's wrath and brought suffering to his own people. So with the plagues of today I do not believe it is the people, so much as the leadership that needs to seek Gods forgiveness and change their ways.
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David L Huey
Is there a suggestion there that God is displeased with the current administration? Or perhaps the fact that he proclaimed himself as "the Chosen One"?
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David Arthur Lewis
If God is feeling angry and vengeful about anything, surely it is the way we are treating our Mother Earth, not some minor rule-breaking from a three thousand year old collection of mythical stories.
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David Arthur Lewis
JSYK, there is an actual plague of locusts going on right now from Ethiopia across the Sahel. So maybe that preacher is geographically disoriented.
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David Arthur Lewis
God is busy creating. She does not have time to concern herself with the affairs of mere mortals. In other words, it's not about you. You are not that important.
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Rev Ned
Ezekiel 16:49 might explain some things.
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Richard Lee Cornell
Lest we forget the African Queen bee. I have seen Red Ants in Chicago. The ones that used to live on in the Southern states.
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Joseph V Rodriguez
I can't say what is on G-Ds mind as I am not privileged to that. However, if believing G-D sent these plagues to the earth help you to become a better person, then I believe it's purpose has been met. I for one hope nothing ever goes back to "pre-covid" ways.
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Minister Mike
IF this is retribution by god on humanity, it is not for abortion, LGBT's, or any other social issue. God is just sick and tired of humans being so damn stupid and blaming everything on anything that is different from the finger pointer. IF this is god's retribution. If it's not, then I guess we can laugh (righteously, of course) at those who fling their crutch at everybody else.
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Tammy Smith
There is no doubt in my mind that God is a just God. He is also a loving God who is just to forgive our sin if we will repent and ask Him for forgiveness. Is this God’s way of saying I’m angry with you? I don’t have that answer, I just know I have to believe His word and follow Jesus and pray for my family, friends, community, country and our leadership. God bless us all in this trying time!
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Donald James Brown
We're just one day closer to the Rapture! All this crap going on lines up for the tribulation! There's more coming brother's and sisters and ALWAYS REMEMBER-Nothing happens to you without God's permission! So rejoice the time is at hand!
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David Arthur Lewis
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Daniel J. Trebas
Jesus freaking christ! All the talk of "God" and the "Devil" being responsible for whatever unpleasantness HUMANS create is simply an ignorant ploy to blame something/someone else, while elevating one's own status at the expense of others. Plagues, killer hornets/bees, drought, famine etc. etc. are directly tied to laws of nature producing signs of an imbalanced ecosystem. I've heard the saying that goes something like, "dont crap in your own kitchen". If an animal kept crapping in it's own water bowl would it think its "master" was punishing it? All of these "horrible" things that could happen and that are happening are simply a reflection of cause and effect about how the majority of humanity is still crapping in their water bowl.
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TheSound.com
An all-perfect God has no need for the terrible human weakness of anger. Master Jesus (Yeshua) does not punish anyone. Living with compassion and love is the way for everyone and everything to thrive. Those who will die today (many who are not aware of it) are already in their personal end times. Be prepared to die at any moment and do not fear death. Master Jesus (Yeshua) is waiting to give your spiritual essence a big hug. Upon your death, you will get to see what you have done in this life, in great detail, and get to feel how it affected all others. Then, you will judge yourself by reviewing the truth of what you did. If you did "hellish" things, you will re-experience them as both the perpetrator and the victim. This is truly painful. If you were kind and compassionate, you will be very satisfied and at peace. You will be pleasantly surprised that the tiniest thing you did, which was kind, had a huge positive impact.
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Greg Jones
I think God is angry with the world,abortion LGBT crap,his vengeance and wrath are upon us ,some may disagree🙏✝️
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Andrew James MacIver
Just to look at all options here..... People are claiming it is a message from God, yes? Maybe the message is not against homosexuality/Trans etc, Maybe it is God saying......... Look, Jesus told you, love thy neighbour, be nice, accept through Love, but you muppets dont get it. Maybe the Plague is againt the fundamentalists christians, who dont practise tolerance or love. Just saying
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Donna Mayotte
amen. If Jesus was, as is reported to “Fulfill the law...the greatest two being Love god and love one’s neighbor” then anything shy of that is a sin.
and the sins committed by insecure true believers in the name of god are far too numerous to count.
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Amber M. Castleman
I do believe that God is angry with was he his following old prophecies first prophecy is illness the second prophecy is animals running the world followed by locusts and finally the last prophecy is war which by the way another has started in Asia so yes God is very angry with us and sent all of us a punishment to see which ones will be good and help others and which ones won't from there he will make his judgement once he makes his judgement he will punish those who were bad and take angels that lived here good for too long and save the rest.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Maybe there's a closed recovery group strictly for gods and goddesses . The christians really ought to encourage theembers of the holy Trinity to seek recovery in such a fellowship as that, especially for their anger and control issues.
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Alexander Clarke
The end is near folks always seize on whatever the current disaster is. I would hope that they would follow the example of the Heavens Gate folks and relieve the rest of us from having them pester us.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
That biblical god not only crated his own enemy, but made him a better person than himself. I'd say that God is a self-defeatist, and it would probably do him good to start attending A.A. meetings.
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Lionheart
Yes, and preferably a secular one. 😇
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Donald James Brown
You've got it all wrong holy man.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
It makes me proud to say that I'm seriously contemplating switching from Wiccan with Satanic leanings, to the other way around.
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Lionheart
How stupid can a god be who creates his own enemy? 🤪
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Lionheart
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Or it could be another biblical misinterpretation. Wasn't the Bible only meant to be a comic book. The Satanic Bible by Anton Szander Lacey is a much better book, full of profound truths, and I have found that I could relate to almost every word of it. It makes me wonder if Satan is really God, for the supposed god of the christians and Jews is such a tormenter.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
It looks like the Android poltergeist is up to it's old tricks again. In my above comment I did not say that the Holy Satanic Bible was written by someone named Lacey, but Lacey. L-A-V-E-Y.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
How many times do I have to say L-A-V-E-Y, not Lacey before it is printed right, or at all. Are y'all trying to keep people from reading the book? Well, Joseph... I'm waiting.
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David Arthur Lewis
You can turn off the auto-correct feature by going to Settings.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Toyotas are punis hi ment from God. I'd rather have a Ford.
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Chaplain Shawn
There seems to be some confusion in the minds of those who posted the article. Confusion and doubt are weapons the enemy uses to keep us off balance, left wing, right wing, believer, or non-believer. People are not the enemy. The dark forces that motivate certain action is what our focus should concentrate on. So, to the ones who posted the article; Why does God need to punish us continually until His Son's second coming? I do not remember Jesus telling His followers in the first century that people deserve to be punished until He comes again. The sacrifice Christ made through God was for us all, and was the atonement for Adam. The ransom was paid in blood. The veil in the temple tore symbolizing God's separation from Israel. Jesus' words "My father why have you forsaken me" points to Israel's rejection of their God who chose them over anyone else. The Israelites were to be the example to the rest of the world, and under their watch be good stewards of the law. Israel failed because they did not want God, rejected God, and completely turned away from God by breaking every covenant made with God.
Christ's short time on earth represents the New Covenant. We are no longer under the law. Therefore, we will not see God's wrath until the antichrist is set up, and Babylon is built again in its actual ancient location. There is no reason to point out God's wrath until the Tribulation, the angels sound their trumpets, and the antichrist shows his true hateful colors. When time hits that point, then all Hell on earth begins and the end is near. The Bible is clear in the Old and New Testaments on sexual immorality. Trusting in the Word and trusting in God is what provides a basis for Christian belief, but it goes beyond belief and faith. A duty is given to us all to witness to others in irenic dialogues using gentleness and respect. If who we witness to rejects us, then we walk away. There is no need to argue. We all can disagree agreeably.
To conclude, killer hornets and deadly diseases are not God's wrath. They are Satan's wrath. If God loosens restrictions over Satan, then it is Satan's choice as to whether deadly hornets or deadly diseases plague humanity. Let's stop blaming God for the choices Satan makes when God loosens the reigns over him. Any evil that is done, is done by Satan whether it is moral evil or natural evil. " But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unjust who inflicts wrath? (I speak as a man.)." Some may see this as God committing wrath, but God cannot do evil. God cannot contradict himself. Therefore, Satan does all the dirty work willfully and knowingly. Satan enjoys every bit of it, not God. The culmination of the biblical narrative in Revelation concludes with the destruction of all evil.
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Lionheart
That’s a fascinating story. It’s almost as though you believe it all. I bet you got it from a book. Would I be right?
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Robert Edward Szekely
- The President doesn't need an Evangelical advisory board.
- Any church that can afford to televangelize can afford to pay corporate taxes. Their agenda is not to help others better themselves by bringing them closer to God. Rather, such organizations exist for money and politics, under the guise of religion.
- For those who would quote the OT prophets instead of concentrating on bettering themselves, shame on you! You spend more time memorizing where verses are to spin them and weaponize them, instead of taking the most important verses to heart, and trying to live them:
"The law is written upon their hearts." "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." "How is it you the mote in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the beam in your own?" "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and give to God, that which is God's."
Instead of telling others how to live, maybe you should try emulating Jesus' own example, and leave these judgements up to God.
I think the Japanese would find it foolish to say the Kobe earthquake was a judgement from God.
Or citizens of the late 19th century on the destruction of the island of Krakatoa. Ask the seismologists, geologists and storm chasers, if you really want truth.You know, science? If anything, we've probably brought this upon ourselves by treating nature as something to be conquered. It's trying to rebalance itself. If anything, the global ecosystem is a giant organism, and we (humanity) are making it sick. It's just trying to heal itself. So if you want to consider these things from a larger perspective, consider COVID-19 to be nature's antibodies to trying to thin the human herd (the infection) making it sick.
Let's not forget that Hal Lindsey predicted the apocalypse would occur before the turn of the 21st century in his best-selling book of the 1970s, "The Late, Great Planet Earth."
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
A foreign country may have started a war with us without letting us know.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Those hornets could have even been intentionally planted on a ship or plane, and released when they arrived in this country.
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Mark Hannon
Like the Emerald Ash Borer. And Asian Carp are really smart fish.
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Mark Hannon
I'm leaning toward the idea that the hornets came over in commercial shipping.
Especially since they were found in Washington state.
More likely a Toyota than punishment from God.
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Asa William Sprague, II
Evangelists are always saying that the latest cataclysm or disease is God's punishment for the nation's sins. It's always a great fundraising opportunity.
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Woodrow
Praying Mantis' can wipe out the hornets.
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Beth
There's also a locust plague making its way from Africa to India, through Pakistan. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/pakistans-locust-plague-becomes-as-big-as-coronavirus/worst-locust-attack-in-decades/slideshow/74706969.cms
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
I've heard that locusts taste good with wild honey. They even sell fried scorpions and terantulas. And look how poisonous they are! Guess how many deadly insects are in this country. There are those who are allergic to bee stings who can die from it. So what if we've got some hornets here too. What happened to those big trucks that used to go around spraying insecticide on city streets, in the wee hours of the morning? It sounds like a good time to bring them back. Don't be paranoid,people! We aren't living in a science fiction movie! It would take those little critter an awful long time to kill very many people, and I seriously doubt that their trying to. But please, do your best to stay away fro hornet nests, and don't do anything to agitate them.
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Alexander Clarke
I understand that they snap crackle and pop! Mmmm mmmm good.
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Howard Pippin
Anybody here read the book called the Oracle?
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BE
I read "The Harbinger" and it was good except I don't necessarily buy into the Israel/USA parallel prophecy idea.
I read some reviews from "The Oracle" after I saw you mentioned it. Have you read it? If so, what were your thoughts?
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Paul J. Fumero
The insanity of these religious right wingers is overpowering. Abortion and Gay marriage. Well GOD does not care if a person is Gay or not. He looks for a Pure Heart. He does care about hatred, bigotry and plain evil and how vile some treat his creation AND that is what these so called pastors are doing. They have a lot to answer for in the afterlife. And no amount of jesus grubbing will save them from their own darkness. Abortion is a contract between mother father and unborn child and NO ONE has a right to interfere. It is a contract that can be broke by either party. Evangelicals are the spawn of the dark one and it shows. COVID-19 a punishment... can't fix stupid.
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woodardenterprises
I'm with you. Your comment makes more sense where God is concerned.
He looks for a pure heart. A heart that is sincere in kindness, giving, caring and love. Bigotry, hate, division, ego and the thrill of hurting and harming others is NOT what God is about. That's ONE reason He sent Jesus, to show us how we are to treat ALL people. And judging others is not our job. As Jesus said, HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, LET HIM CAST THE FIRST STONE!
There's NO ONE here making comments that's without sin, yet they condemn and mock. If they feel God will punish the gay and those that have abortions for one reason or another, BELIEVE GOD WILL PUNISH THEM TOO because they are NOT without sin.
Also, normally, those that judge THE MOST are the ones that SIN THE MOST, and in more egregious ways. Yet, they are SO HIGH AND MIGHTY, judgmental, egotistical and narcissistic, they can't even SEE that they are worst than those they judge. All of that comes from the heart. And God SEES it!
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flugo
'pj fumes': Tell me what a 'Pure Heart' is. In light of God's original man/woman relationship ordained in Genesis, tell me tell me, again, God doesn't care if a person is gay. Tell me that the commandment dealing with adultery has no bearing on God's view of a gay lifestyle.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Never forget that flu can only be described as an illness.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
In flu (enza) go away with your illness. We are on a spiritual path, a journey toward enlightenment, by bringing all of our paths together, as children of the same universe, for the good of the whole, not to be brought down by succumbing to the condemning dictates of a book of ancient fairytales.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
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Adam Lee White
Absolutely right! God doesn't hate the sinners, He doesn't like the sin. Just because you sin doesn't mean you're outside God's grace He is always with us and loves us all more than we can understand. The bible says that murder and being with the same sex is a sin. I'm not the judge so I don't know exactly how he will handle these things, but I do know that He will continue to love us. The bible is clear on how to treat sin it says repent from sin which does not mean to just stop, it means to turn around and go the other way. I believe that the more personal of a relationship you build with the Lord, the more He will enter your life.
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BE
Romans chapter one addresses God's attitude pertaining to sexual immorality and the results of a continuous departure from God and His precepts for living with a "pure heart". Please refer to Matthew chapters 5 through 7 to hear what Jesus says living with a pure heart is about. God does indeed care about a great many things concerning the issues you have brought up. Jeremiah 1:5 is an example of God's involvement in an unborn child's life. Also please refer to the actions of a baby in the womb in Luke chapter one.
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Robert Edward Szekely
Perhaps if more of us spent less time quoting the Bible to others to tell others how God would judge them and spent more time reflecting individually on ourselves how each of us can grow into better human beings, the world might one day be a place worthy of Jesus' return. It is not our place for anyone to try to enforce their religious beliefs through secular law, because none of us are wise enough to enforce Divine Law. Abortion? Same-Sex Marriage? Transgender Persons? What if God is trying to teach us tolerance and compassion, and to leave judgement of these things alone to Him? Because if so, we, as a whole, ARE FAILING MISERABLY.
Stop wearing your religion on your sleeve, like the hypocrites Jesus spoke of.
What God has (or hasn't) told our ancestors he knows of, there is much more He knows of that He hasn't told us. Still, that was not for us to turnaround to tell others how they should live their lives. For those who believe, then you most believe that we are all answerable to Him. So when each of us stands in Divine Judgement, how will explain when God asks, "How did you see yourself fit to judge your peers in My stead?"
Depending on your creed, there are either 10 laws (decalogue) or 613 (mitzvot). Yet evangelists will take things which are advisory in nature, and treat them as though they were Divine Law, even though it has not been stated as such.
This is why we are not wise to take from God and give it to Caesar.
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BE
The Word of The Lord God is not silent on the issues being discussed. God is relevant in every circumstance in human life and many have tried for centuries to silence the information and guidance contained therein.
Ezekiel 3:18-19, Proverbs 31:9, Ephesians 5:11, Galatians 6:1 and James 5:20 are examples of the believers responsibility to share not only Biblical information and exhortation, but especially to declare the gospel of salvation (The Good News) paid for by The Lord Jesus Christ with His earthly life, death and resurrection in order to provide “The Door” to a personal relationship with The Creator. Matthew 28:18-20 is sometimes referred to as “The Great Commission” which Jesus uttered to His disciples as well as to all believers through the centuries.
It has been pointed out that we “are failing miserably”, Agreed. The question is, what are we failing miserably at? It has been posted in this thread that “the world might one day be a place worthy of Jesus' return”. Today, it seems that nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, 2 Peter chapter 2 is like reading the daily news, describing the society that man has wrought on the earth. 2 Timothy 3:1-9 and Matthew 24:36-51 aptly describe the conditions on the earth and in society which will culminate with the return of Jesus to the earth to rule.
“Wearing your religion on your sleeve” is an interesting and accurate statement. It turns out that everyone is religious about something. Religion, as defined on Wikipedia is as follows: “Religion is a social-cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements. However, there is no scholarly consensus over what precisely constitutes a religion.” Interesting that religion is a social-cultural system developed by mankind.
People can serve things, themselves, others, social moors, looks, careers, etc Bob Dylan wrote a lyric that says “Your gonna have to serve somebody; it may be the devil or it may be The Lord, but you gonna have to serve somebody”. Who are we going to decide to serve? “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render unto God the things that are God's” Matthew 22:21; Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25
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Kathleen Leone Guagliardo
Not that it matters, but I think that your post is great. I like that the Scriptural texts are most appropriate. Most people who have not read their Bibles these days think that God is love which means that everyone is saved. They don't know that God loves them very much but their own behaviors and choices show all the Universe that they actually love themselves, not God. God loves them to much to subject them to an eternity of God's children loving God, praising God, and worshiping God in compete and utter joy. They fail to understand that God's pure character is a burning fire to any sin. It is only by receiving Christ's robe of righteousness and accepting His merits of grace that we are saved. Jesus said in John 14:15, "if you love Me, keep My commandments." All of them. It is about how much we love God, talk with God, read His Love Letter-The Bible, are willing to follow Jesus' example, and dig deeper than the surface of His writings to see Him. We need to die to self everyday, and to live for God.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Aren't there enough saviours in this world already? The last thing we need is another Jesus.
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BE
Which saviours are you referring to?
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Have you heard of bleeding heart deacons?
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BE
Sounds like a metal band from the eighties.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
O was also saved by metal bands in the eighties, such as Queensryche, Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, and Guns and Roses, but was also quite fond of eighties pop, hard rock, and disco. And I've always liked country, classical, jazz, and swing, but came across most of those bleeding heart deacons in A.A. meetings.
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Sounds like a metal band from the eighties.
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Jeff McClain
I agree that God loves all his children, and if God wanted to interfere, which he won't or every serial killer and child molester would have been enough for his anger. However, to state that the killing of a child is between the man the women and the Child!? What, are you serious? God knows you before you enter the womb, thats in the Bible as well and to insinuate that somehow the child about to be aborted is somehow part of the contract leaves me to believe that your a left wing nutjob.
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Lionheart
Be very careful calling people nut jobs. Don't forget that if you believe in the Bible you will also believe in a talking snake and a talking ass.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
And maybe the spirit of the fetus was suicidal in its last life (or atleast a self-mutilating masochist). Or maybe he or she was a murderer, and being aborted erased it's karmic debt.
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Alexander Clarke
Well, we certainly have plenty of talking asses.
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Stephany Kae Johnsen
Come you guy’s. Are we all Christians? I, personally, do not think God is NOT EVEN happy about these angry posts. It’s ok to disagree, but do it in a Christian way and let the bull and name calling stop! Do you think our Lord is happy and pleased with you right now??
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Rev. Pam Field
Humans cause all the evil on this planet and all the good too. We cause the weather by pollution and eating beef; causing too many farts of methane gas. We cut down the trees that can "eat" and change carbon dioxide into oxygen We choose to do good, or evil from our very own sound minds and pure hearts. We have free will, no one forces us to do anything we already want to do deep down inside. Plagues are also created by humans on purpose or by disregarding the laws of nature, cleanliness, and caring about others... to cause no harm. God lets us do what we have decided to do and we will pay the consequences in time. In "The End", God will save us from ourselves and even then, if one does not desire to "be saved" they won't be saved. He does not force anyone to believe in Him or Christ. He gave us a book of suggestions to live a full content life and the consequences if you choose not to live that way. It does no one any good to judge, condemn, hate, or make fun of anyone believing or living different from you and your great wisdom. In the "end" we will all know who is right and who is wrong, who lived well and who did not. Why not just love and create peace among ourselves and not wait until the end when it may be too late?
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Fred J Cruz
Jesus said that we were only to keep HIS commands to be without sin, and He was very clear what that was: Love God and love your neighbor as you love yourself. Anything else is not sin, not for us to judge. If these plagues - and don't think it is only happening to the United States, we're talking the whole world here, wildfires, pandemics, locusts, floods and powerful storms worldwide - are some sort of divine retribution, then for what? We see a world where people largely do not love one another, where hate and mistrust prevail, not just nation to nation but even within nations, with racial and religious bigotry rampant .Now, throwing gasoline on the fire while hypocritically claiming he is an evangelical Christian, The so called "leader of the free world" has spewed nothing but hate hate hate for the past three and one half years, and we are now reaping what he has sown.
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Looks like another case of looking to someone or something else to bail us out of the problems we've created. If God has the power to unleash Plagues and Murder Hornets, then it would follow to some that he can fix global warming and all our other screw-ups..
This way of thinking leaves everyone off the hook--Just wait for God to show up, fix things, and we're good. It is always either God or Science that will save us from ourselves--sigh.
The crazy Right-wing Evangelistic belief that God that will show to remove all the people that they hate is pretty messed up on many levels.
A little "Billy Jack"/"One Tin Soldier" moment for those of us old enough to remember :)