A religious group with a controversial past has found itself in hot water once again after organizing an event to showcase a special healing beverage it manufactures and sells. But according to the FDA, this so-called "miracle cure" is actually just industrial bleach.
The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing invited its followers to attend the recent event in Leavenworth, WA. All it took to gain access to the exclusive magical healing substance dubbed "Miracle Mineral Solution" was a $450 non-refundable registration fee (plus the cost of the product itself, of course).
Why the high cost? Well, this is no run of the mill mineral supplement, church leaders say. They claim it has the power to cure 95% of the world's diseases, including some of the most serious ailments such as malaria, Ebola, HIV, diabetes, and all types of cancer.
FDA: "Beware of False Claims"
And yet, as totally believable as that claim sounds, the FDA says otherwise. In fact, not only is this substance unlikely to solve any existing health problems - it may actually cause some new ones. Per FDA testing, this supposed miracle substance contains chlorine dioxide, a type of powerful industrial bleach commonly used in textile production.
One piece of promotional material dug up by the Guardian drew particular ire. The video, filmed in Uganda, features "an infant lying in his or her mother's arms who is made to drink a cup of the bleach. The child screams as the fluid is swallowed."
Prior to the church event, the federal agency issued a warning urging people not to attend or consume the beverage. However, it's not clear how many followers took that advice.
Repeat Offenders
Apparently, this isn't the first time the Genesis II Church has come under scrutiny. According to prior reports, federal agencies have been warning about the church's questionable medical claims and products as far back as 2010. An ABC News report published in 2016 describes Genesis II founder Jim Humble (who has since retired) as "a former Scientologist who claims he's a billion-year-old god from the Andromeda galaxy."
Why anyone would take medical advice from a glorified bleach salesman is a bit of a head-scratcher, but despite the controversy, some loyal followers continue to defend the church and its mission. Your thoughts?
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James
One can produce any evidence another wants to read. The question is. Will ones personal phaneron cloud the results or intent of any report? Where "only a drug can prevent or cure" type laws? Making prayer, natural vibrations of consumables, thoughts and stress, power of positive thinking and the like largely unacceptable. AND, if this data you ask for fails to conform the provider is already a "crackpot". Humans were created by a cesspool of ??? between to mica sheets on a planet with no human intervention. Here comes Corporation & Gov all playing GOD. Claiming only THEY can cure or prevent a bodily malfunction employing something metered & patented. Humans -as a whole- are poisoning themselves into needing more poisons.
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James
Empirical evidence? 4 the most part- is subjective, It is biased to western medicine-Government-Corporate type thinking.
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James
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James
Empirical evidence? 4 the most part- is subjective, It is biased to western medicine-Government-Corporate type thinking. The orignal meaning of epigenitics and its implications is by far more -vast- than any peer-reviewed document where one can meter, control, patient and sell. One can produce any evidence another wants to read.. The question is. Will ones personal phaneron cloud the results or intent of any report?
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James
Empirical evidence? 4 the most part- is subjective, It is biased to western medicine-Government-Corporate type thinking. The orignal meaning of epigenitics and its implications is by far more -vast- than any peer-reviewed document where one can meter, control, patient and sell. One can produce any evidence another wants to read.. The question is. Will ones personal phaneron cloud the results or intent of any report? Where "only a drug can prevent or cure" type laws? Making prayer, natural vibrations of consumables, thoughts and stress, power of positive thinking and the like largely unacceptable. AND, if this data you ask for fails to conform the provider is already a "crackpot". Humans were created by a cesspool of ??? between to mica sheets on a planet with no human intervention. Here comes Corporation & Gov all playing GOD. Claiming only THEY can cure or prevent a bodily malfunction employing something metered & patented. Humans -as a whole- are poisoning themselves into needing more poisons.
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James
Test post...
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James
No claim to what this cocktail may (or not) be at this time till we actually scrutinize it. BUT, off the top of our head... Coming out of the gate. We share this... We have minimal faith in what the FDA / government claims. Government agencies claim Round-up is safe as Judge awards a $298 mil judgment against Monsanto (reduced to $100m). Dumping antifreeze is illegal in most jurisdictions, but glyphosate is permitted to be dumped. ~ Google... Dead spot in the Atlantic & Golf Of Mex. FenFen was safe, Sodium Chloride & Fluoride in our drinking water is permitted. Illegal to drink raw milk in many areas. Formaldehyde / resins are in most MFG'ed building materials. In the USA, Everything is safe till the lawsuits kick in. FDA claims "only a drug can prevent or cure". So much for citrus addressing Scurvy. On a side note. No matter how much of this MMS one consumes, if you are lacking nutrients, this is not the way to get it. Epigeniticly speaking. Stress, Negative thoughts and the like can also be a factor in cellular acidification (1 of the 3 root feeds for cancer to exist). PS: PPL that drink poisons and have no ill-effects safely do so because they bless the compound B4 consumption. Blessing can change the vibratory frequency of the item consumed. Watch the movie "STINK" and "THEY LIVE (Sunglasses) and "first do no harm documentary". Read the Dr Mercola Website database (along w/his citations, references, abstracts". This will give most readers a well-rounded idea how humans are treated like cattle by the elite-100 ppl / companies on the planet.
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Secretary3rd
Few ounces of Hemlock also has been known to cure what ails you.
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Julius Ndanga Njele
I am not surprise that,the world is still leaving in the dark.Americans I mean.The said church-Genesis Group did not invent the solution. I am not surprise too that the FDA is hot about this matter.
The lobbyist in America should now begin to tremble, the pharmaceutical companies too.The world is perishing every second because of incurable diseases.While cures are kept in dark chambers awaiting what?That the entire world population should shrink why some high level demonic individuals and their companies pocket fabulous sums of dollars.
My problem is not the church in question. May I ask where this miracle solution came from...we all know the truth.Who is paying who to promote or try to castigate a church or silence those who would try to offer help to the poor?
This matter is quite sensitive and it puzzles me that,it's coming up.The God sent author of this solution should be the one to answer the trillion dollar question.He invented it not to make money and today some unscrupulous individuals are now trying to commercialize the solution?
I call on the church to stop what they are doing.That solution is meant to be free of charge.However it could be bought but the cost is of no importance. ..the value lies in the hope it gives to those in need.
God bless the inventor.
I hope he is still alive to hear this breaking news.You have something to tell the world before you leave.
Bye.
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Don
Do you have any empirical evidence to back your claims? If they are true, you should have access to mountains of evidence that you can post here. If you don't have any evidence, then you are just another crackpot pretending to be intelligent. I will withhold judgement pending your evidence, thanks.
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Kapuhuna (@Kapuhuna)
I mean. Technically if humanity was the disease, they wouldn't be wrong lol. In all seriousness though, although of course drinking bleach is not a good thing lol - my research shows up a few claims of small doses within some Multiple-Mineral Solutions (MMS) have turned up to ( acclaimedly by some) cure cancer. Irony is the face of God as they say, and that said- ~the FDA does approve of Fluoride in our toothpaste - a chemical classified as neurotoxin on their own website. Their own studies turns up that Fluoride creates rotting of the teeth, a symptom we even came up with a technical term for called dental fluorosis.
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Mrs.Wheelsx
I think this entire topic is missing the bigger picture... lack of affordable healthcare. People wouldn't be so desperate for relief from their illness that they would be willing to pay $450 for a dangerous long shot if they didn't have to spend tens of thousands of dollars addressing the illness through the current healthcare system.
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Mike Martinez
I'm shocked. I really am. While Mr. Humble has it wrong that he is a "billion-year-old god from the Andromeda galaxy" it's more likely that the spirit of darkness that is influencing him has been around for a while.
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Secretary3rd
Why go to a bottle when the same amount of chloride is found in your water tap.If you want a cure all try a little Rattle snake oil, what does not kill you will cure you.
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Bill Fox
We use wash clothes instead of paper towels. So, we use bleach to help clean the wash clothes. We don't use hot water. I soak a load of wash clothes in the soapy water (we use a tablespoon of GV dish soap) and a quarter cup of bleach and soak for an hour. I try to limit total bleach use to two gallons a year because we have a septic tank (our septic tank is 44 years old. We have used it for 36 years. It still works fine and has never been pumped!) Bleach kills bacteria whether aerobic or anaerobic. Too much bleach kills a septic tank, especially if there is a garbage disposal, which we don't have. We compost scrap food.
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Arnie
Don't be so judjmental if you don't know the facts. I have seen first hand acute arthritis disappear totally with this treatement. Pharmacy can not profit from this.
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Stoodie Baker
LOL yeah! Only this "church" can profit from this with their $450 non-refundable fee, plus you still have to buy the liquid. But thank goodness the pharmaceutical companies aren't profiting from this! The hypocrisy is strong with you.
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Minister Carol
Members of the US armed forces stationed in Vietnam during the war there routinely drank water with added bleach for purification. Ask anyone who was there, unless many personnel weren't aware of what they were drinking. Before the advent of bottled water, any scientific expedition to a remote area carried water purification equipment and also bleach in case the equipment broke down.
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Charles
As I am an avid outdoors guy and I do add a few drops to my water I pack with me. In addition I add it to my 55 gallon water drums that are sealed and changed out every 2 years. I test the the water in the drums every 2 years and is as pure as the day I sealed them with bleach, 1 cup per 55 gallons, and no smell. So that being said it does good for keeping water free of microorganisms. However I would never suggest taking it full strength! And I am a child of our father God.
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Princessonakapomadianna Moore minister of ULC
You don't drink the bleach!!!see a dr.when you get sick,and stay away from jimmones peop,e,bleach is a germ fighter and a great detector for all types of germs.so if you are sick p,ease see your dr!!!it must be done in cc's and it takes an experiences dr.whi knows alternative medicines.thank you minister Moore ULC
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David
@dave Thank you for clarifying. If ULC is going to write a journalistic article, it would be a good idea to research both sides thoroughly rather than make assumptions and throwing out attack comments. I have also been in the holistic health field for 40 years and MMS has a place and a use, it seems to me. I'm no fan of Scientology, but this is the first I have heard that association, It may be true, I have not researched it. MMS is a substance that can be used or not, but really has nothing to do with the personality that may be promoting it. I also think we should live in a free society where we all get to make sovereign choices. If MMS is proven to be dangerous and truly hurts people then it will fade away fast, and responsible parties can be dealt with. But we should do the honest science and reporting before rushing to judgment.
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Sandra Wolfe
Instead of spending hundred's of dollar's at your dentist to get your teeth bleached, add a very small amount in your water pik when you go to use it. You will find not only does it whitened your teeth but is also healthy for gums.
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Mark
Generally speaking, ingestion of bleaches can cause damage to the esophagus and stomach, possibly leading to death. On contact with the skin or eyes, they may cause irritation, drying, and potentially burns.
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Dave
It's obvious from the article and the comments, that most have no idea what MMS is. Bleach is sodium hypochlorite and MMS is chlorine dioxide. Two totally different things.I've spent about 60 years in the health field and have used MMS to good effect. While I wouldn't use it on a daily basis, it does have a place in some instances.
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Francis
Hydrogen peroxide?
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Lionheart
Neosporin?
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Minister Post
The world will go on deceiving and being Deceived.
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Lionheart
Yes, you are quite right, and that's where science, and logic, play a big part in helping to make good sound educated judgement, which religions tend to not always use that often causes problematic judgment.
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Rev. Brien
Lionheart, ???????
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Carrie
Well, well, well. I see we have a serious church contender for a major Darwin Award! Why not serve the bleach in church, along with Tide pods! I guess it would keep dirty thoughts, words and deeds subdued as they would be washed lilly white! ROTFLMFAO!
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James
I'm questions if my posts are showing ?
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Carl Elfstrom
I've always thought drinking bleach was deadly, and otherwise turns things white. Michael Jackson didn't drink bleach to turn white, and Al Jolson didn't drink anything to turn black. Besides that, being white is not a cureall. We have a lot of problems, too. And I thought God was eternal, so how could this one have been born a billion years ago, in a galaxy he was supposed to have created. I think I'll turn on my DVD player, and watch One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, one more time.
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James
Id like to see the toxicology report / ingredient list. The FDA indicated a form of bleach & . Fluorides in our drinking water is good for us. Formaldehydes, metals and other questionable found in many inoculations is safe. With all the chemicals in foods & body care products is also safe & good for us, I bet if the FDA authorized & profited from this cocktail it would be legal & safe. Until the lawsuits kick in.
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Rev. Laurel
Home work needed--the product is 'sodium chlorite' not chlorine. Read the books and research. I have taken it years back after doing my research, for probable breast cancer. I was a science major and it did no harm and I don't have cancer. Look before you leap!!!!! We all know that FDA doesn't like cheap fixes, especially when it is natural and can't be patented.
Dr. Shealy sent this out-- Thanks to the American Dental Association, which may be as evil as MonSatan, for almost 80 years most Americans have been slowly poisoned. To summarize the scientifically published problems with fluoridated water. Furthermore, many drugs such as Prozac contain fluoride.There are NO DOUBLE-BLIND studies showing fluoride decreases cavities.
Fluoridated water lowers IQ 5 to 10 points!! Even Harvard reported this!!
It calcifies the pineal gland and even before that it leads to earlier sexual maturity.
Ultimately it stops production of melatonin, leading to marked increases in insomnia.
Increases the rate of osteosarcoma, one of the most serious cancers, in young men.
Markedly increases risk of hip fractures.
Markedly increases fluorosis of teeth.
Increases risk of Down syndrome!
Markedly decreases fertility in men and women!!
Causes hypothyroidism and false blood testing of thyroid
function.Damages the entire pituitary function.
12. Increases risk of Alzheimer’s.
Time to start a MASSIVE class action law suit against the American Dental Association, every city that fluoridates and the FDA!!!!!!! Just a few pertinent articles among 40 or more: J Bone Mineral Research, 1989:4(suppl 1); S376 J Nat Cancer Inst. 1990; 82: 1118-1126 NJ, Dept of Health, November 8, 1992 Fluoride. 1996 28: 189-192
Rev. Laurel
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Kapuhuna (@Kapuhuna)
Oh wow awesome haha just read this, you were way ahead of me
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Carl Elfstrom
I'll still boil my water before drinking it. That's four minutes on high in my microwave, to make a cup of coffee.
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Julius Ndanga Njele
Right my friend. Do you know there is a cure for diabetes. ..with just a common salt in Asia...long story. Discover a cure for any incurable disease..in America..the next day you are death.
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Maiane santo santos
This is complete racist blasphemy, nobody will stand for whiter whites, we have enough trouble the way things are now, whats next, drink wd40 to loosen your joints, but only where its legal.
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Carl Elfstrom
What about albinos?
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Lionheart
Of course some believe it. Most of them believe an ass could speak, and a woman who was a Virgin gave birth to a god, so what’s new?
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Rev Buzz
OK, let’s end this discussion right here. Nothing more needs to be said. Anyone who advocates doing this, should not be listened to, period, end of sentence. And for those of us against drinking bleach, what more needs to be said? NOTHING! Do that which is right.
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Carl Elfstrom
But Buzz, don't take it so seriously. Think of all the great jokes, and wise cracks we could make about it. The ULC can't expect us to take all of their weird articles seriously. At least this blog is always very entertaining. There's never a dull moment, around here. For there's no business like show business like no business I know. On with the show!
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Rev Buzz
Yes, I do sometimes take things more seriously than I should. In this instance I fail to see the humor when people are seriously doing harm to themselves and trying to convince others to do likewise.
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Don
The same can be said of many religious practices.
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Rev. Nobody
People are slowly losing their minds. In many American health food stores they are selling hydrogen peroxide as a cure all elixir. If you think this happens only in other countries think again. If you tell someone that you can cure cancer by by drinking gasoline someone will buy it and drink it down. To bad know one can find a real cure for all the haterd in the world. I'd even buy that.
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Carl Elfstrom
The only way drinking gasoline could cure cancer, (and it really could), is to chase it with a lit match. That would put an end to your cancer, and everything else. Don't forget the song from MASH "Suicide is painless... except for the momentary explosion.
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Rev. Brien
You just can't fix stupid. Having said that, if stupid wants to kill itself, I say let it. Maybe this is God's way of recalling defective material.
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Don
But this will only affect believers. So God thinks all "defective material" believes in him/her/it? Hmm...
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Rev. Brien
Because I believe that gravity is optional, does not mean that if i jump i am going to fly. I am sure that GOD is smart enough just as you are smart enough to recognize defective material. I am simply stating a fact, you cannot fix stupid. Either you let it die off, or you put it in jail. I am simply tired of my tax money having to pay to feed and house stupid, so I vote for option A. ?
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Rev. B.H.
Gravity is optional? That pretty much demonstrates the stupid you cannot fix, Rev. Hate.
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Rev Todd
Lol only hater appears to be you. Your attack on a man shows YOUR disregard for his opinion. You have to prove you are right. Have a nice day rev cantfixstupid
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Rev. Brien
Hey Tod, why don't you take a drink of bleach and tell me how that works for you. I am not attacking anyone. If you wish to believe in dumb stuff I will not stop you. And Rev. bIGhIG the gravity comment was sarcastic, but you took it as serious which I must admit kind of scares me a little. Bottom line, believe what ever you wish. Just stop making me pay for the disasterous results when your crazt belief goes fubar.
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T Kosse`
Normally I would agree with you Rev. Brien if they were only giving to mature adults ( I didn't say these people were bright or intelligent just "mature as in of a legal age") But they also giving this to babies and young children, that are not in the position or able protect themselves and say no.
Consumption of chlorine dioxide solutions, such as MMS, can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and severe dehydration. These products should not be consumed or given to someone to consume.
Legionella pneumophila bacteria can cause Legionnaires' disease, a potentially deadly type of pneumonia. Chlorine dioxide is not a cure or treatment for medical ailments, including but not limited to autism, HIV, malaria, hepatitis viruses, influenza, common colds, and cancer.
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Rod Gesner
a Little Chlorine is Good for water purification.with no Harmful Effects..(Maybe? ;) So ALOT Must Be Good for EVERYTHING..??NOT!! Let These Con artists drink The first Gallon...Selling Something like this Overseas and administering it to BABIES... That's Why Missionaries Get Arrested and Beheaded.. Because of Murderous Criminals Like These ( that Deserve it:( And The Bigoted Evilangelicals; Colonialists; and Slavery Apologists... ;)
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Rev. B.H.
Why all the Capitol Letters? I'd still agree with you without 'em ...
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Rod Gesner
it's an Emphasis Thing; that Sometimes Get's a Life of it's own ;)
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ET
In a totally free society, I guess one is free to sell dangerous products, and others are free to use them. Thankfully, our USA does have enough thoughtful citizens and politicians to have, in the interest of public safety, put in place some controls on our collective freedoms.
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Lori
People are crazy. Some folks have no life, so they latch on to idiotic things like this.
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Don
If by "some" you mean at least 70% of the population, I agree!
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JASON D BENDER
This is beyond crazy. It is criminal. to be specific: Child abuse, child endangerment, assault II, practice of medicine w/o a license, 69.04.720 Advertising of cure of certain diseases deemed false, 69.36 RCW 69.36 WASHINGTON CAUSTIC POISON ACT OF 1929, 69.40.030 Placing poison or other harmful object or substance in food, drinks, medicine, or water, and probably many more...
The children should be taken permanently from their sicko parents.
The parents should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law - and the severity of their punishments, once convicted, should reflect the egregios nature of their conduct and the multitude of aggravating factors.
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Arnie
I would suggest some research before you come to such a harsh conclusion. I have seen first hand arthiritis totally cured with this treatment.
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Rev Todd
Wow Pat, not to "dis" your beliefs, bleach can kill. It is a poison and can burn u. While it appears you are a memeber or a willing bystander, your "magic potion" will kill. The founder was 1. A former scientologist, first uh oh. A group founded by a science fiction writer. 2. He claimed to be from outer space. Those alone should give anyone pause. Do you think jim jones was a great prophet also. How about those ppl in CA that took poison to hasten thier departure to a space craft hovering in space? Normal ppl do not think like that. There is no proof .
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Julius Ndanga Njele
The FDA will never allow it. All they are looking for is stamp it out.No one should talk about it again.
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Howard
Surprisingly, bleach is not a poison within reason. It does impart a taste in water if applied too strong, but I'm not aware of too many ill effects. I daresay drinking it straight could provide a problem. Doing anything to an extreme can cause problems. I use a camper and always bleach all the water that I put in the water system. The formula for that is 1 ounce for 60 gallons of water. I sometimes go a little bit above that if it's going to sit for a while, and I still don't taste bleach. It does evaporate Out of standing water, especially if the water is sloshed back and forth. Adding it just means that at that time the water is bacteria free. The water can be re-contaminated with dirty containers If a person isn't careful. Howard
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Colleen McAllister
True, but remember this is a stronger solution and they are drinking it for healing purposes. Bleach kills germs but not diseases.
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Arnie
They are not drinking bleach! That is pure misinformation. The (not bleach) solution dosage is measured in drops, (one to three usually). I suggest we don;t take the FDA's political word for it. There are too many first hand accounts of it working even on diseases.
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Don
"too many first hand accounts" But no empirical evidence, not even one documented case. Why is that?
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Julius Ndanga Njele
Thanks. You know about it.
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John Owens
https://mmstestimonials.co/
Not saying I believe in it, but these are first hand accounts.
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Don
"as totally believable as that claim sounds"
While there shouldn't be any bias in the reporting, this was funny!
The orignal meaning of e p a genetics and its implications is by far more vast than any peer reviewed document where one can meter, control, patient and sell.... I guess this site dislikes some terms / words... IE: E p a genetic? <--------- It will not let us post this spelled other ways.