Brett Kavanugh Testimony

Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh testifies before Congress. (credit: Doug Mills/The New York Times)

Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has been facing tough questions as he testifies before Congress this week. Although the hearings have covered a wide range of topics, his views on religious liberty and reproductive rights have been under the microscope especially.

On Thursday, Kavanaugh was asked to comment on Priests for Life et al. v. United States Department of Health and Human Services, a case involving a religious group that refused to pay for birth control to be used by employees. He had previously written that religious groups should not be forced to provide medications that run against their faith beliefs. During his testimony, Kavanaugh reaffirmed this view, explaining:

“Under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the question was first was this a substantial burden on their religious exercise, and it seemed to me quite clearly it was. It was a technical matter of filling out a form in that case, but they said filling out a form would make them complicit in the provision of the abortion-inducing drugs they were, as a religious manner, objected to.”

Critics Respond

Reacting to the testimony, reproductive rights groups took issue with the term “abortion-inducing drugs”, insisting that it’s a misnomer intended to spark alarm in religious circles. They argue that the contraceptive drugs in question simply prevent pregnancies – they don’t terminate them. Pro-choice group NARAL issued a sharp response on Twitter:

What About Roe v. Wade?

Should Kavanaugh be confirmed, it would certainly make for a more conservative-leaning Supreme Court. And after his comments on birth control, pro-choice activists are becoming increasingly worried that this new court might side with religious groups and move to roll back reproductive rights. Their biggest concern: the potential overturning of Roe v. Wade.

But don’t celebrate too soon, pro-life advocates. Kavanaugh has made a point of calling the landmark abortion ruling an “important precedent” that has been “reaffirmed many times” – leaving experts to speculate that an overturn of Roe v. Wade is unlikely.

For now, anyway.

[Update 9/17]: In a shocking turn of events that may quash his Supreme Court bid, Judge Kavanaugh has been publicly accused of committing sexual assault as a teenager. His accuser is Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, a California professor who came forward in an exclusive interview with the Washington Post over the weekend. Kavanaugh has flatly denied the allegations, setting the stage for a high-profile Senate hearing to investigate the matter. 

 

112 comments

  1. Pastor B Stevens says:

    If it’s part of a healthcare plan in the life of a private citizen despite your beliefs if that person is your employee it’s none of your dam business concerning private healthcare of each patient .

    1. Veronica Deevers says:

      health care is about saving lives………abortion is not about health care. I support Kavanaugh 100%

      1. Paul J. Fumero says:

        Reversing roe v wade will kill women. So much for pro life.

        1. Ben says:

          It’s not about pro-life Paul. It’s about controlling women.
          Proof?
          They only want the child born, but don’t want to help mother or child in any other way.

        2. Robert Messmer says:

          There is no proof of that. Remember when the experts declared that if Trump was elected the world economy would immediately go into a depression? Didn’t happen. Predicting the future is tricky.

          1. Norma Battes says:

            Robert Messmer
            September 19, 2018 at 6:18 pm
            ” …immediately go into a depression? ”
            Define “immediately”. Hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars in tariffs is only pulling blocks out of the world economic Jenga tower. Depression won’t be enough to define what will happen next. Immediately, or otherwise.

    2. Robert Messmer says:

      If the healthcare plan is being provided by the employer it is indeed the employer’s business. If the patient doesn’t like the plan provided they should, and are free to, work elsewhere.

  2. b0blf says:

    This guy is much needed on the Land’s highest Court. Too bleeding-heart, soppy and liberal tendencies saturate this good old USA!

    1. Rev M Dash says:

      You may be right as I don’t think we need to pay for Viagra or any other so-called virile drugs or surgeries to correct these so-called disorders! Maybe we need to keep out of people’s bedrooms altogether as an invasion of privacy. You can’t get it up? That’s your problem. You can’t have children? Your problem. Why should I have to pay for your problems? Why should I have to pay for fertility drugs and the children who may suffer due to poor genes?

      Let’s take it step further: all of you sinners who are having sexual relations with your close relatives producing children with medical anomalies—if you’re in healthcare you know what I mean and how it’s at it’s highest level—should not be covered by healthcare as their a product of sin! Why should I pay for the medical and neurological problems of these children?

      Why should I have to pay the costs of a woman wanting children? Do you know how these are impacting the healthcare costs?

      Why are you too not playing God? If God wanted you to have children…. why am I paying for men to have an enjoyable sex life?

      b0blf: You just may have an 💡?

      1. Rev. Rene. says:

        And then to think I was going to write a decent and thoughtful commentary. Once upon a time when the earth was young cavemen would feed their wives and children and maybe their tribe. Wait, that was socialism? Yes, it was, one or more providers working to take care of the common good, everyone was somewhat safe and somewhat fed and somewhat sheltered. But, now we live in this North-American society, where the word “Socialism” is getting equated with”communism” (NOT TRUE) and God forbid we should have to pay for something our neighbor needs, especially if that person has an alternate belief! Off with their heads!!! Really, this is how it should work, folks, in a modern caring society, all of us looking after some of us when needed!!! I could say it is the Christian thing to do, but I think it should be beyond that, it is the “Decent” thing to do! And some of us need birth control, maybe for our health, which could be threatened by a pregnancy! Do you know for sure, can you tell?

        1. Carl Elfstrom says:

          When did Christians or Christianity,as a whole, become decent. I would never confuse a decent thing to do with what Christians do. Since they feel guilty about everything they do anyway, we should rub it in and make them pay for everything.

      2. Lori says:

        Rev Dash…You talk up a storm about sinners, as if you’re not one. It must be wonderful to be right up there with Jesus. We were good Christians and still had one of those children with neurological problems. Without contraception there would be many more of them. I was told by a “good Christian” woman, like you, that my child was born the way he was because we did something sinful. She just labeled him a product of sin because she felt she had the right, since she was so “good”. She was sick in the head. Needless to say I am no longer a Christian. People like you are sick in the head. Somehow, I don’t believe Jesus would talk the way you do. I do believe his mission was one of love and mercy. As I have said many times before on these blogs, Bible thumpers push people away. You see yourself as the righteous word of God. That kind of ego is SINFUL.

        1. Rev M Dash says:

          To Ben and Lori, my response is a sarcastic reply to b0blf!!! It has to do with how extreme that thought pattern and outlook can spin out of control, if we let it. It leads to self pity and finding content in judgment as opposed to elevating those less fortunate than yourself!

          I have 2 children with neurological deficits: one acquired during a car accident (she 3 yrs old was in sleeping in my arms pre-seat belt days, the door of the car flew open we both were thrown out of the car in a car accident and the car passed over her) and the other due to my illness in a subsequent during the pregnancy.

          I believe we are all challenged in life—everyday—how we meet those challenges speaks to our character. You can dwell in sorrows or elevate yourself to moving forward. It’s difficult to get out of mud, but once you start you will get momentum to move forward. When you pick up others and give them help, it becomes like a locomotive pulling together to advance and becomes easier for all as you move forward.

          When you dwell on looking at each other you won’t go far. If you all turn in the same direction you move forward at a faster pace and soon no one has to be left behind because you will each have your own momentum.

          1. Lori says:

            Sorry I miss-understood your wording. I agree with not dwelling on sorrows. I also don’t care for those crazy people who create such a negative world while thinking they are walking on water. Again, you caught me of guard. Blessed be.

      3. Ben says:

        Rev M Dash you call yourself a Christian minister? I doubt your Christ would agree. Didn’t he preach charity and taking care of others?
        The hypocrisy of “good Christians” is terrifying.
        My Gods disagree with your preaching.

      4. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, OM says:

        Rev Dash. you present a good argument to those who want to discriminate against women’s healthcare, including the right to choose. I got your message, unfortunately, for some here it went right over their heads. As a nation, we either cover ALL conditions or none at all, including elimination of coverage for infertility, and erectile dysfunction.

        1. Minister Carey says:

          Yes!

        2. Rev. M Dash says:

          Thank you.

        3. Ben says:

          So more it be.

      5. Norma Battes says:

        Rev M Dash
        September 7, 2018 at 3:53 pm
        ” …why am I paying for men to have an enjoyable sex life? ”

        Just because your wife doesn’t have an enjoyable sex life why condemn others to the same fate?

        Seriously though, if we(WE) as a society do not look after each other then, why should we(I) pay for the cavities in your kids teeth? Or the dents in your car? If your faith, Reverend(!), is every-man-for-himself, then so be it and you can lead with your self-righteousness and cancel your life insurance, your healthcare, your automobile warranties and for that matter, your savings account! You want money, make it yourself and quit relying on us to line your pockets with dividends and interest. Reverend.

        1. Rev M Dash says:

          To Norma Battes: some got this, you did not! It was in response to b0blf— you must read this he original post. Those who did understand my retort.

          And, since you seem to care: I pay my own way, including $783 a month for medical not including dental for just me. My auto insurance is $498 a month!

          I work as a medical researcher and have seen it all. I have held the bodies of countless children passing away from HIV whose parents pre-deceased them. The reason for the “Rev” is because most places won’t permit a non relative to do this! I can as spiritual advisor.

          What have you done for mankind lately? Or, your community?

          Please follow the content instead of attacking—that becomes trolling!

    2. Laura Rivero-Fisher says:

      This good old USA’s roots are based on murder. Genocide of the Indigenous nations and slavery is at the core of how we have become who we are today as a Nation. My God and Universe is loving and always for humankind and all species on our beautiful earth. Women must have reproductive rights. We are the caregivers, we feed our families, we care for our elders. Christ consciousness guides me. With love and light, Elder Laura

      1. Jim says:

        No different from any other nation on earth…..

      2. Rev M Dash says:

        Amen. Drop the 🎤

      3. Carl Elfstrom says:

        You’re confusing murder with war, and the Indians lost, so deal with it. And Americans weren’t the ones doing the scalping. Talk about heinous acts.

        1. Cary Talbott says:

          Since scalping was introduced by the Dutch as proof of bounty, I would have to say that no, it wasn’t introduced by “Americans”, it was introduced by Europeans. Study, learn. It wasn’t war, it was genocide.

        2. Ben says:

          Cary’s right Carl.
          Your just a troll.

      4. Milt Rudy says:

        Women must be able to make decisions about their own bodies. What about viable fetuses? Shouldn’t they have a say in their struggle to survive?

        1. Ben says:

          Milt – No.
          Mother’s body – mother’s choice.

    3. Ben says:

      b0blf you must be a Republican Christian? Am I right? I bet you support those 300+ priests that raped over a 1000 children, in Pennsylvania too?
      Trump and his supporters should all be sent to Antarctica, so that the rest so they can spout their evil rhetoric all they want, and the rest of us don’t have to hear it or live with the consequences.

      1. Rev M Dash says:

        No. I’m a Feminist Independent who practices Buddhist Tenets.

        1. Ben says:

          I was addressing b0blf .

          1. Rev M Dash says:

            😂

      2. John Owens says:

        Do you even know what you are talking about?

        1. Ben says:

          John Owen’s Should I use one syllable words so you can understand better?

  3. Jeri says:

    Thank God for bleeding heart, soppy, liberals! As a woman, I don’t want hard fought liberties threatened or taken away by “this guy.”

    1. Ben says:

      Jeri it should be unlawful to have laws to control women’s bodies, but then again, Judeo-Christianity is all about the subjugation of women.

      1. Rev. Rene says:

        It is a mixed bag, the rich go elsewhere, the rest get stuck with these backward 1950’s laws made up by the old white guys in DC. Any law should ideally be able to be for everybody, equally. This anti-abortion law is not, never was. If the daughter of the 1% gets pregnant, they traditionally go to Switzerland to go “skieing”. What an awful hypocrisy!

        1. Ben says:

          Prove me wrong.
          Women must obey men. They can’t hold any positions of power with the church. They have no say over their own bodies. It goes on and on.

    2. Carl Elfstrom says:

      Don’t forget that it was a republican named Lincoln who wrote the Emancipation Proclamation and freed the slaves. Also, before Donald Trump claimed to be a Republican he claimed to be a democrat. And as much as he lies, he probably still is one, in disguise.

      1. Ben says:

        Carl we all know that neither political prty is anything like it used to be. Try I stay in modern times.
        As for Trump he’s really neither party. He’s outout for himself, but is closest too the Nazi party.

        1. John Owens says:

          Please illustrate one valid comparison between Trump and the Nazi party.

          1. Ben says:

            Hitler asserted the Führerprinzip (“Leader principle”). The principle relied on absolute obedience of all subordinates to their superiors. Hitler viewed the party structure and later the government structure as a pyramid, with himself—the infallible leader—at the apex.

            Hitler firmly believed that the force of “will” was decisive in determining the political course for a nation and rationalized his actions accordingly.

            So does trump.

            Hitler and trump are also both white supremacists.

  4. Valerie Ward says:

    As soon as all these ‘christian’ MEN step up to the plate and take care of all these unfortunate children that could have been prevented with a little pill, they can do as they wish. Until then, quit telling women what they can and can not do! Abortions will still go on but it will be back in the ally AGAIN. Corporations can get any type of insurance they want to provide to their employees. Doesn’t give them the right EVER to tell a person how to use it. I am so over these fanatics trying to ‘rule the world’ with their self righteous opinions yet they don’t follow any of them. This is not the nation of ‘don’t do as I do, do as I say’ mentality. Keep the church out of the state and more importantly, the state out of the church. This all makes me sick! Pushed back 75 years with this ignorant, pompous ass attitude! Rev. Dr. V A Ward

    1. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, OM says:

      I totally agree Dr Ward. Feel like we are moving back decades as my second internship was at Planned Parenthood of SE PA in Phila in the late 1970’s, and was it an incredible comprehensive health clinic. Here’s what I say to these people: If you don’t have a vagina, STFU, If you have a vagina and you are concerned about another woman’s vagina, STFU, lastly keep your theology out of our biology. Life begins at first breath Christians. Read your Holy Book.

      1. Cindy says:

        There are people who suggest they know the Bible but forget how the soul plays into all we do. Gen; 2,7 reads; God breathed air into the nostrils of man and he became a living being. How did the Bible readers miss this? To this many people reply “I knew you before you were formed.” I say God is not talking about the body, this refers to your soul which will enter the body when it breathes air in this world. Till then it is part of the woman. She must agree to be a good, caring, and nurturing mother, or she should not give birth. I have made many people pause for thought. That is the only way to enlighten the dark and closed minded. See what they believe and find out why they believe it. If you have proof to convince them to see the light of day, share it. Write to your representatives and for goodness sakes VOTE!

    2. Jim says:

      Why should the men step up to the plate as you say when they have no say?

      1. Rev M Dash says:

        My sentiments exactly. Now go forth with this message to all other men and make it the law of the land as this is about choice!

    3. John Owens says:

      How about the people who MADE those unfortunate children stepping up to the plate? And, women have a right not to screw, don’t they? I mean, they SHOULD.

      1. Ben says:

        Your charity as a Christian is so Republican….meaning non-existent and non-christian.

  5. Reverend Krystina S. says:

    Birth control is not “abortion.” I abhor the hypocrisy of those who force women to carry a foetus to term, then refuse to bear any governmental responsibility for them once they are actually *babies,*people.* (Biblical “personhood” begins AFTER the first breath has been completed, therefore a foetus is NOT a “person” Biblically!!) And who feel it is appropriate to act prejudicially against people of color (as Kavanaugh has actually ruled), who do not believe babies should be entitled to nutrition (WIC,) safe daycare, medical care (INCLUDING imminuzations, for God’s Sake!), equal safety by law enforcement, protection against being born into poverty, unwanted, drug addicted, medically incapable of survival, products of incest and violence, from young girls and women whose bodies and lives are endangered, to an Education, to a Home, it just goes on and on. And these same people are “afraid” of immigrants, black and brown and poor people, and don’t even want to confer citizenship on those they force to be born here, or let them vote without continual proof of citizenship–being frequently purged from voter roles, confronted, etc. I just don’t get it. As if they are so very Morally Superior. The “bleeding hearts” are the ChristoFascist “save the foetuses because babies are soooo cute” idiots. AND THEN to refuse BIRTH CONTROL, why? Do the monks get Viagra? Why, YES THEY DO!!! Why do THEY need treatment for Erectile Disfunction? Because that’s how INSURANCE works. Even if you do not need the service, insurance provides a minimum of services FOR EVERYONE.

    1. Bro. Chas says:

      Would you enlighten us with actual Biblical references that you claim exist to support your statements? Also could you inform us with the facts about how Mr. Kavanaugh ruled which directly supports your claims? I sure can’t find them and would love to be as informed as you.

  6. Stephanie Willey says:

    If all anti abortion laws INCLUDED guaranteed nutritional, health, and educational support of every child from birth to adulthood, which by the way is what I am absolutely sure Jesus would do, then these anti freedom of the personal liberty of choice laws just might have my personal support. But they don’t and as long as the GOP is in control never will. Kavanaugh is a card carrying member of the patriarchy whose underlying agenda is NOT really religious based rights of the unborn but actually the agenda of returning women to the status of second class citizens, barefoot and pregnant, and keeping them there. Jesus was a bleeding hart liberal and tried to teach us all to be bleeding hart liberals too.

    1. Carl Elfstrom says:

      I knew there had to be something wrong with Jesus, while he was a man. Thanks for clarifying that, Stephanie.

  7. Rev M Dash says:

    So right. And what are we finding out about these religious men? Their abusing these children and their source is drying up: families without help who turn to them to “show their children the way.”

    I saw it growing up. Those parents dropping their children they couldn’t handle or afford off at after-school religious programs. Trusting they would be safe. After all they’re with god fearing men, what could go wrong? Everything! And, years of it! With all religions!

    If everyone would stay out of people‘s bedrooms and healthcare HIPAA laws respected we would be a lot better off.

    What’s interesting: Roman Catholic religious medical coverage pays for neither abortions nor fertility treatments as it’s too expensive!

    Just in the last half century the Roman Catholic sect of the Catholic Church did approve of fertility drugs and therapies for infertility with age limitations which coincides with a deep depression of Roman Catholics enrollment as defectors migrate to other expanding Catholic sects that stay away from the abortion and fertility issues, as does the Anglican Church!

    Oddly, the problem with the Catholic Church has been with the Roman Catholic sect and the western world. Greater freedoms has corrupted many of the religions in the western world. There may be a clue in there somewhere. For one: maybe the pervasiveness of religions trying to control people’s sexuality and lives is unhealthy when the Bible coupled with politics is used as a controlling factor—whatever happened to separation of church and state?

    The previous Pope found the political abuses with Roman Catholic Priest enablers in America overwhelming and knew it was finally time to call in the Jesuits to realign the Roman Catholic Church in the West which will now most likely be a massive purge as the dirt swept under the rug can no longer be ignored—it is a mountain blocking all reason. It will most likely change the Papacy forever and can even lead to a regression to pre-Papal reign!

  8. Clayton Beardmore says:

    Words are cheap when you’re vying for a life-time, well-paying, job.

  9. carrie says:

    As was asked, “How many laws govern the male body?” None! No court can give, or take a man’s shit driven right to reproduce or NOT care about the aftermath! As usual women are being told what they can and can’t do in this dystopian society. No one is willing to step up and care for the children in this country, except those who want children. (Look to the still ongoing kiddnapped children at the border) The adage is right….”It takes a village to raise a child.” Universal health care solves all these problems but some people are to stupid to realize that! We are the only country in the industrial world that doesn’t have it!

    1. Robert Messmer says:

      Guess that means you are unaware of the Selective Service Law. It didn’t directly affect a man’s ability to reproduce but it did give (and still does) the government the authority to round him up and ship him off to die. Now it hasn’t actually been used since 1973 (ironic since that is when Roe v Wade came about) but it would be easy enough to reactivate it. “As usual women…” oh please stop the pity women nonsense. In today’s world women can do anything they want, except maybe be a linebacker for the NFL. No children at the border have been kidnapped except for those kidnapped by traffickers. As to those who have been separated from the parents, that is on the parents for trying to enter the country illegally. Had they followed the law, applied, and waited until permission to enter had been given there would have been no separations. No in reality it does not take a village, It only takes a parent (two, one male and one female are better) just ask the millions of women and men who have actually done so. Universal health care has its own set of problems – such as being out of reach financially. Do you remember this past year when British healthcare, backed by the government, murdered several children? Here is something to consider: https://amac.us/the-medicare-for-all-hoax/?campaign=newsletter

  10. Rev M Dash says:

    Kavanaugh has been proven to be a liar 🤥 in previous Senate hearings. A leopard (animal that preys) cannot change its spots!

  11. Ben says:

    Wow, for a religion that supposedly preaches “Love they neighbor”, don’t judge others, service to the community, charitable works, take care of the poor, etc … the Republicans never seem to want to do that. Effin hypocrites.

    1. Jim says:

      That’s funny the republican party has done more for minorities and families than the democratic party has even thought about. The Dems perform lib service while the republicans actually try and do something. Look over your history from Lincoln thru today. Trump even gave more to charity than B Sanders who joined the 1% ranks last year making over a million. Not bad for a senator who makes just under 200k a year Hmmm.

      1. Ben says:

        Jim I’m talking about the current administration. The CURRENT Republicans are EVIL, with their attacks on: Healthcare, Women’s rights, LGBTQ rights, Equal rights, basically anyone’s rights, that aren’t either the 1%, white supremacists or sex offenders.
        May the full horror of the Republicans actions be revealed to them.

        1. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, OM says:

          How curious. I wonder exactly what the republican party has done for minorities, and specifically Native Americans, Native Hawaiian and Alaska Natives? The answer is absolutely nothing.Yes and I know our history very, very well and how the republican party has treated our people. “Try and do something”- whatever that means and nothing more than a fabrication meant for those who are ignorant of indigenous people, and those Republicans in power using our land as toxic dumps, money and for greed, etc.

        2. Jim says:

          What exactly have the dems put forth that is so good or the independents? I think that the parties have totally screwed up the country and its not getting any better. That said what attacks are referring to? Healthcare or Obamacare is not helping anything they need to revamp the whole thing and get government out of it. LGBTQ rights, Women’s rights, equal rights? What exactly has been done to hurt the rights of these groups and individual rights exactly?

          1. Ben says:

            Jim the Independents can’t get into office because “any vote for a 3rd party, is a wasted vote” mentality.
            Republicans tried to strip away the ACA, and replace it with … NOTHING. They;re gutting medicare and medicaid, as well as veterans benefits.
            LGBTQ rights? The Reps don’t want them to have any.
            Woman’s rights? Reps are trying to control women’s bodies and won’t grant them equal pay.
            Human rights? Taking children, infants from their parents and putting them in concentration camps.
            Reps are taking our internet freedom & privacy away.
            Reps are encouraging white supremacy, sexual assault, and lying.
            They’re tampering with our journalistic system- which is against the constitution,
            Watch something other then FOX news and you’ll see countless more atrocities.

          2. Stephanie Willey says:

            What exactly have the Dem’s done that is so good ? you ask … Gosh, where do I begin … FDR’s policies did much to help the economic and racial underclasses. Truman desegregated the military. Kennedy and Johnson ushered in the most comprehensive civil rights and voting rights laws in our history. Carter appointed more minority professionals to his administration than any previous admin. Clinton advanced womens rights in healthcare, signed the Motor-Voter legislation into law, upheld the rights of striking workers. Obama did more to guarantee the equality and most simple and basic human rights for the LGBTQ …. community than any administration. There’s more, lots more. This is just what comes to mind as I write.

          3. Jim says:

            Ok Stephanie, I’m sure you are aware that presidents do not pass laws they inforce them. That said lets set the record straight for folks who may read this and not quite know what we are talking about. Lets start with FDR’s new deal. FDR was a great leader in a very bad time in our history, however if you ask any economist they will tell you that had it not been for WWII his policies would have been a disaster long term. They did help folks in the short term. FDR’s main focus was trying to restore peoples faith in the government. So he basically hired everyone to work for the government. Social security was started to restore faith as well. They made people feel they had a safety net. The retirement age was set at 62 at the time the average lifespan was about 64. The folks who brought about social security figured all Americans would pay into it but on average about half the folks would collect and then only for a couple of years. unemployment at the time of the US entering WWII was around 17 million which about 12 million went into the military and about the same amount worked in direct support of the war. Which brought us out of the great depression.
            You say Truman desegregated the military. In fact the military had already started desegregation on its own. In 1945 Under Lt Gen Gillem Jr the army started policies to improve the treatment of African American soldiers. In 1946 under secretary of war Robert Patterson the army and navy adopt policies of integration and equal rights for African Americans. In 1947 Lt Gen Huebner started training thousands of black soldiers in Europe along side whites. Also in 1947 the newly formed air force closed Tuskegee and started integrated training of flight personal. These programs were started by military not a president. Because of racial turmoil in 1946 Truman did start a civil rights committee to look into ways to improve race relations. In 1948 Truman signed executive order 9981 but only after he was nominated after a racially charged democratic convention.
            You Said “Kennedy and Johnson ushered in the most comprehensive civil rights and voting right laws in our history” well kinda, in reality it was the republicans who can take credit for the civil rights act passage. If you review your history on this matter you will see that the democrats actually filibustered the bill for 14 hours or so. Sen Byrd from the great state of WV also who was a card carrying KKK member for many years tried to stop the vote. Check the voting record and you will see that the act vote was Yea 73% democrats and 94% Republicans. The voting rights act in 1965 vote was 78% yea for the dems and 82% for the reps. So you see there may have been a democratic president in office but the laws were passed by the republican congress.
            Jimmy Carter. You stated “he appointed more minorities than any other president. You are right however the appointments were not to the highest offices. That said he also fired half his staff while in office. He also reinstituted the death penalty in GA as Gov. He also made friends with and praised Fidel Castro, Kim Il Sung, Marsal Tito, Nicolae Ceausescu, Raul Cedras and has stated that Hamas should be recognized as a legit political partner by Israel. All of these folks were dictators who killed thousands of their own people. The first Hispanic appointed to a cabinet position was by R. Reagan. All that said lets remember that this was the 70’s. Racial equality was just really getting started No previous president including JFK had minorities in their cabinets in fact their were not a lot of minorities in the house or senate either.
            Clinton. Again the health care reform bill was passed by a republican congress. As was the welfare restructuring bill. They also passed the congressional accountability act with 100% of reps voting yea and a few dems voting no One of which I think was Sen Byrd from the great state of W.Va. Lets not forget all the scandals as well.
            Obama: Again you must take into account that most LGBTQ folks were in the closet until Rock Hudson came out and admitted to being gay and having Aides. This was in or around 1982, 3. It takes an average of about 15 to 20 years for people to get used to a new way of doing things. Basically a generation. So of course Obama would do more for LGBTQ community than any other president. If you look back at the 60’ or 70’s it was never an issue back then. Actually not even that much in the 80’s.
            In summation: NO ONE should be discriminated against for any reason. What people do in the privacy of their own home is their business. The other side of that coin is that people who disagree with some ones life style has a right to disagree. I have gays in my family and a few folks who do drugs as well. I do not associate with either except at family functions. This is my choice I don’t do drugs and I’m not gay, I disagree with their choice of lifestyle. That said, I also think they have a right to do what they want. They are the ones who decide for themselves, its their decision and its really none of my business. I respect their right to live their life as they see fit that does not mean I must say its ok or bend over backwards to avoid any conflict no more than I would for anyone else. I also disagree with abortion but as long as its legal it is again none of my business. Live and let live on both sides of the issues. For the record I also have respect for FDR, Truman, Robert Kennedy, Jimmy Carter and Obama. I do believe they did what they thought was right. I have no use for Bill or Kennedy. I once thought Kennedy to be a great man until I learned what happened behind the scenes and how he treated his wife.

            Just read your lines Ben. Great CNN talking points. You might want to actually read some history and look at who sponsors some of this stuff. The only thing the dems are looking at is a voting block. They could care less about the people, Hillary proved that.

    2. Carl Elfstrom says:

      The Republican party is not a religion. And us Pagan Republicans are nothing like Christians.

      1. Ben says:

        The vast majority of Republicans are Christian.

      2. Ben says:

        Carl, what about the rest of it? Not denying that I see.

  12. Gail D says:

    All the other rhetoric aside, a birth control pill is NOT the same as the “morning after” pill. Couldn’t we get someone with just a bit of basic biology knowledge? A little knowledge in the other sciences wouldn’t hurt, either.

    1. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, OM says:

      Absolutely, ignorance of biology and science is pervasive.

      1. Ben says:

        Not ignorance. REJECTION of science.

        1. William J. Lewis says:

          And that is not Ignorant?

  13. Rev M Dash says:

    The morning-after pill is the higher concentration of the birth control pill. Alternative: use the birth control pill for 3 days then stop to induce a period! Ta-dah

  14. Gail D says:

    Maybe I should have been more clear. Birth control pills OR morning after pill (Plan B) OR doubling/tripling certain birth control pill formulations are all forms of pregnancy PREVENTATIVES. These WILL NOT END a pregnancy. The morning after pill (Plan C, RU-486, vaginal misoprostol) is meant to END a pregnancy in its early stages without needing a surgical abortion. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/health-medicine/science-behind-abortion-pill-180963762/ (this didn’t seem to take the first time??)

  15. Gail D says:

    Reply to Rev Dash re: double-up bc pills (didn’t take on 1st attempt, IDKY). Maybe I should have been more clear. Birth control pills OR morning after pill (Plan B) OR doubling/tripling certain birth control pill formulations are all forms of pregnancy PREVENTATIVES. These WILL NOT END a pregnancy. The morning after pill (Plan C, RU-486, vaginal misoprostol) is meant to END a pregnancy in its early stages without needing a surgical abortion. “https://www.smithsonianmag.com/health-medicine/science-behind-abortion-pill-180963762/”

    1. Gail D says:

      Now all 3 turn up, and all 3 are “awaiting moderation?? what’s going on here? This is ‘reply’ to my THIRD attempt.

  16. Carl Elfstrom says:

    If you think that’s something, Gail, stick around for a while. All of my comments are always moderated, but I never complain. I must admit that I’ve said some very thrown things that don’t belong on a ministers blog. You know, this is supposed to have something to do with spirituality. I’ll be the first to admit that I sometimes get carried away with what I’m saying, and lose sight of that. So moderating my comments can be a good thing that I usually appreciate, for it avoids later embarrassment.

  17. John Owens says:

    The man is imminently qualified, by any previously-used definition. Any opposition is simply due to Trump Derangement Syndrome. Mostly it makes the opponents appear shallow, neurotic, and off-kilter.

    1. Stephanie Willey says:

      Trump Derangement Syndrome ????????

    2. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, OM says:

      “Trump Derangement Syndrome”? Is that his DSM V diagnosis? Funny I cannot locate it in the manual. If it is his diagnosis then that explains a lot about his unhinged behavior, strange affect and forgetfulness.

    3. Ben says:

      Trump is imminently qualified? You mean he’s likely to be qualified at any moment?
      Cause currently he’s less qualified to be president then Benedict Arnold is.

      1. John Owens says:

        Kavanaugh, you goof! Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg says so.

    4. b0blf says:

      Owens: you’re spot on!

  18. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, ADS, OM says:

    Wow, so now we know what is behind Kavanaugh’s anti woman attitude. Another misogynist sexual predator. who sexually assaulted at least one woman. More is to come out about this sleazy character. He is toast now.

  19. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, ADS, OM says:

    A male who sexually assaults a woman should never serve on the Supreme Court. No wonder he has demonstrated over and over again, his disdain for women. There is no reedeming quality about this sleazy individual. Feel sorry for his daughters.

    1. Ben says:

      A man who sexually assaults a minor, should be crucified.
      A man who assaults an adult, should have his hands and manhood removed.

    2. b0blf says:

      Talking about the fairer gender, how ’bout a joke?: How is a woman and a dog turd similar? The older they get, the easier it is to pick ’em up! lol

    3. Robert Messmer says:

      For someone with so many initials behind your name you don’t keep up very well do you? For one in the United States of America you are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. He has not been so proven in a court of law, so we need to presume he is innocent. Also, his accuser now admits that she is not sure about a) when it happened or b) where it happened. According to the media there has been no video, no still pictures, no audio, no eyewitness testimony, no report to her school counselor, no report to his school counselor, no telling her parents, no telling his parents, no telling the host or the host’s parents, no telling her best friend and no contemporary entry in her diary. In other words, zero proof. The notes from the therapist differ from her account in her letter and mentions no name(s) for the male(s). According to her lawyer, she will not testify on Monday. Because she doesn’t wish to commit perjury?? Latest reports say she is now not sure if it was Kavanaugh or if she mixed him up with someone else.

  20. Minister Jardian Ferguson says:

    First off i would like to take a stand for my grand mother (god rest her soul) Norma Mccorvey, women should have the right to choose what they put in their bodies just as much as any man or any one who falls in between. and for that matter what they do with their bodies. Anything besides allowing another individual the right to an american way of life is just unconstitutional. This is just another poor example of a human being who probably shouldn’t be in office let alone the seat of a judge. and let me find out he actually sexually assaulted someone. im outraged. free condoms, lube, and birth control for all. peace.

  21. RMC says:

    Abortion is murder. Simple.

    So, IMHO, if R v. W is overturned it will be GOOD thing. Of course then the battle will move to the states.

    1. Minister Jardian Ferguson says:

      yes and no, but in my honest opinion so is masturbation and the menstrual cycle but because its not a complete individual yet does it make it and more or less evil ? i can go on and divulge deeper if you’d like. why don’t we just let other people live with their choices and try not to over judge anyone. you have no idea what goes on in some folks lives.

      1. RMC says:

        Just let people murder unborn babies? You equate that with masterbation and a woman’s monthly cycle? Please be serious.

        1. Minister Jardian Ferguson says:

          its literally half the battle? you must be one of those people who jumped on a band wagon without doing research at some point it would be evil yeah but do you have kids ? do you know what its like to try and bring a life into this world in this day and age? what if the mother has no money lives on the streets or is with a man that wont for a fact pony up to take care of that child. so you would rather that child be born and then ultimately suffer because the parent just wasnt fit to raise that child at that current point and juncture? why dont you let other peoples karma be there own and you stop trying to play god and cast judgement on people?

          1. Ben says:

            Minister Jardian Ferguson, though are so right.

  22. Bro. Chas says:

    Here we are again with another post on this site that is not balanced or fully factually and is written to enrage and not to engage. Well done ULC author you have successfully accomplished your mission to outrage the foolish and uninformed to lean toward your untrue idealogy.
    May I try to ntroduce facts and civility to this charade? Fact 1: Mr. Kavenaugh did not call birth control ‘abortion inducing drugs”. He was quoting the words of the arguments of litigants in the case. It was Kamala Harris, Corry Booker, Hollary Clinton and mainstream media who took his words out of context and created the false narrative. Fact 2: Ms Ford has come forth with an allegation. It has yet to be proven true or not. We all can recite situations where allegations proved out to a lie. Let justice run its course before we rush to the verdict. Fact 3: Mr. Kavenaugh never said or acted in anyway that indicated he would reverse RvW. If fact, he termed it settled law.
    My plea for ULC and many who are commenting is to accurately report and comment. Many comments above are just foolish andignorant statements and not based on facts, but promulagated in fear and anger. Just think about this before you respond.

  23. William Lewis says:

    The real dangerous Elephant in the room, is the issue of the control of “the other”. That is how Fascism works.
    Now Just as the Jews did in the desert we want a King/Government to control everyone we don’t agree with. In their case the made a “Golden calf” to save them. We elected one.

  24. Ray says:

    The whole issue to start with is involvement with the government in “our bedrooms & the alter”. The government should not be in the death or marriage business. Abortions and the death penality, two wrongs don’t make a right. And IMHO, the government should not be issuing permits for marriage or divorce.

  25. Kim says:

    The statement says Priests for Life was told to fill out a form if they objected to birth control. Their response to USDH&H was “THEY said filling out a form would make them complicit in the provision of the abortion-inducing drugs they were.” Those were Priests for Life’s words not Kavanaugh’s, he was just quoting them! Priests for Life felt that even filling out the form would make them complicit. They have that right.
    People just jump to conclusion without comprehending what they read. Research for yourself, stop believing everything you read, getting all upset and insulting and attacking others.
    I became a minister because I felt it would better me- It would give me something good to reach for. But some of you act like terrible people. I hate to read the comments to these questions. No civility, just plain ugliness. Stop attacking other commenters. If you disagree just say why. You might learn something and change your view.

    1. Bro. Chas says:

      Thank you Kim! Finally a voice of logic, reason and intelligence among the many who “shoot from the hip” with untruths, hatred and anger.

  26. Mitt Radates says:

    Kavanaugh did not refer to birth-control pills as abortion-inducing drugs. Your headline took his actual comment out of context. Get it right if you want to have credibility.

  27. Rev Ned says:

    IMHO, the abortion debate is all about business. The business of a church is to sell the hope of eternal life.

    The best way for a church to survive, financially, is to bring new members into the fold. The best way to accomplish this goal is raise the children of current members, through Sunday School, etc., to continue in the church as adults. Converting adults is hard. So, any form of birth control is bad for business.

    The Catholic Church recognizes this and bans any form of birth control. The more children, the better. As adults, providing they remain members, they will ensure the success of the business.

    To prove the above, all one needs to do is look at the Shakers. Their business model included total separation of men and women, therefore no children. The only way to get new members was to proselytize them. There is one Shaker village remaining, and it is in the state of Maine.

  28. Old Bill says:

    Roe verses Wade is not a law. It is a decision that removes the states ability to arbitrarily deny abortion. Abortion is a State’s Rights issue, like capital punishment or eminent domain. All state laws and individual rights are subject to the limitations of the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights. All the reversal of Roe verses Wade would accomplish would be to again allow the states to arbitrarily decide who can and cannot get an abortion. It would not abolish abortion. Congress has the option of establish guidelines for all states or trying to pass an amendment, but abortion has become a political goldmine for both liberals and conservatives, so neither wants to actually do anything to resolve, limit, or increase abortions. Until that time, it’s up to the state, within Constitutional guidelines. Judge Cavanaugh would be the least likely jurist to “repeal” Roe verse Wade.

  29. Lea Weisenbach says:

    I’m just plain tired of religions that think their rules rule. The bible belt has the highest in venereal disease…And children that seem to born from alcohol parents..sad..But I have to pay for their problems…Why do I have to pay for people that want to live in a fantasy world…Why do I have to pay for the mental illness that religions people create.

    Religion should stay out of peoples bedrooms and just chean their own door step.

  30. Minister Jardian Travis Ferguson says:

    how about everyone who is against abortion start adopting kids or funding the parents who cannot possibly afford that child. all i see is people pointing out their sour opinions on a subject that they only care enough about to type about. if you’re not part of someones solution, you’re part of the ultimate problem. i understand why my grandmother did what she did. my mother was the second child that was adopted. i had a great life and so did my mother. matter of fact because of this i came to understand that you don’t have to be related or what ever to love something. the water is so mixed with blood now a days that if you seriously aren’t trying to be generous and love people without judging them, if you are pointing fingers or throwing stones in a glass house maybe we should start over scrutinizing all of you naysayers for any and all insecurities about anything you may have going on in your life. STOP BEING JUDGEMENTAL FUCKING PRICKS. MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!!!!!!

    1. Robert Messmer says:

      Better yet how about everyone who doesn’t want kids not get pregnant or impregnates others.

  31. Ben says:

    As a sexual predator, Kavanaugh had no credible opinion on women’s bodies.

    1. Robert Messmer says:

      He is not a sexual predator as he has not been so adjudicated. Indeed his accuser is now saying she might have confused him with someone else. But using that logic, no one who has not been successfully aborted has no credible opinion on abortion.

  32. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, ADS, OM says:

    Actually, anyone who does not have a uterus or vagina, should STFU and anyone who has them and is concerned about another woman’s should STFU too. What a joke you anti choice peeps are. A bunch of hypocrites. You do absolutely nothing about the thousands of children in every state in the US waiting in foster care and orphanages for adoptive parents. These are the children YOU should be reaching out to love not someone’s tissue. NO you are not “pro life” you are only interested in controlling other women and our bodies. To Hell with all of you who stand on that stage and preach a bunch of garbage. You have no morality or value until you step up and help children who are already here just begging to be taken care of by loving people. And you men, who have so much garbage spewing from your Neanderthal mouths, STFU too if you cannot handle our personal and private decisions.When you grow a uterus and can get pregnant, then you have a say..

  33. Catherine Ohrin-Greipp, MSW, ADS, OM says:

    Agree with Ben and Jardian, Enlightened beings.

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