Pastor Under Fire for Justifying Rape if Women Wear Shorts

Rev Samantha Counihan

it doesnt work like that, if someone rapes another, the rapist needs to be punished for the crime, its not a girls fault if guys looks at us and have nasty thoughts, the guy is responsible for his actions, if he rapes someone then he needs to be jailed for a while, like me and many other females say guys are gonna look at us no matter what we are wearing but again that guy is responsible for his actions, raping is a form of predator, blessed ne )O(

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‘If you dress like that and you get raped, and I’m on the jury, he’s gonna go free.’”

Guess who is no longer on the juror pool list in Union County, NC. LOL

JaZe

That's completely wrong. I've heard such opinions expressed in other countries and there's always a backlash. I'm curious however why while some women go around half naked, the guys in general don't follow suit 🤔

Rev Morse

Don't even know what to say about that. Wonder how many times he rped a woman.

Sunshine DayDreamz

was into evangelical xianity as a teen. went to a jimmy swaggart talk in Southern CA. He was bemoaning "you young. girls -- you don't wear those new french cut bikinis. you don't know what you do to men. don't you tempt the devil."

So I was pissed b/c i had just gotten a black and white one. It was adorable. I was 16. and i thought no way i'm going to not wear my bikini. Few years later, he's busted with a sex worker.

Steven Alan Corben

This man has lost his way. I can't imagine anyone attending service with this guy. It's just shameful.

Catherine Marie Boudreau

Disgraceful. People like this should not be allowed in public.

Matthew Mastrogiovanni

Has anyone seen this? https://www.bishop-accountability.org/2024/02/pastors-remarks-implying-women-in-shorts-deserve-to-be-raped-prompt-local-protest/

In specific, "“He admits to sitting in a parking lot to watch women in shorts and encourages others to do the same,” posted Bird.

Founded in 1970, Bible Baptist Tabernacle is listed as an Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) church, a Protestant sect known for its ties to reality TV’s Josh Duggar, whose family has attended an IFB church. Duggar is currently serving a 12-year prison sentence for child pornography.

In recent months, IFB ministers in Tennessee, Oklahoma, and New Hampshire have been arrested on child sex abuse charges, as well as an IFB missionary. An IFB-affiliated boarding school in Missouri was shuttered last year following years of reported abuse. "

Richard Mutch

I somewhat agree with the pastor. Some of the scanty clothing some women wear IS inviting a problem.

RAYMOND BENITEZ

If we preach from the Bible instead by our own personal conclusions, we will be safe and correct however on behalf of Pastor Laments he was incorrect. We are supposed to preach not on what we think but on what the Bible says.

When we speak man which is plural, we cannot say I for I is singular and it's not about you. What you would do and what man would do is totally different. So, now for the people who has churches; please make sure your church has a dress code the congregation can agree on using the Bible moving forward.

Matthew 7:1-2: "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you." Blessing Brothers and Sisters in Christ.

Ari Joseph Bertine

I would like to sit down with this guy and pick at his brain to find out how he was indoctrinated with the very dangerous idea that men cannot control themselves. Not only is it insulting to those of us who are never even tempted to rape a woman no matter what she's wearing or where, but it implies that to have such temptations and lack the moral fiber to refrain from acting on them is excusable. He doesn't just say that "men are men" in the way that people like to excuse bad behavior from youths by saying "boys will be boys". He says that he would allow a rapist to go free simply because of the way a woman was dressed, and absolutely naught to do with guilt. That is an admission that he would break the law to harm a woman he looks down upon because she doesn't adhere to his standards. And it's tacit encouragement to others to put their own personal judgment, AND their own personal dislike, over compassion, empathy, and even over the oath that one swears to be truthful in a jury, SO HELP YOU GOD. He's even putting his own judgment over an oath to God.

He needs to hear this. And so do the people in his congregation, and those who allow him to sit in a place of authority in that church. He is not at all a good influence or someone that needs to have the ear of those who expect him to teach them wisdom.

Ronaldo

Scripture is pretty clear that God looks at the hearts of men, not just how women are dressed. A man with a decent heart will not rape a woman even if she shows up nude. I've been male for over 70 years and a man for over 55. Under no circumstances, even a complete lack of clothing, would I ever rape a woman. I've been married for over 40 years, so even sex with a willing woman who is not my bride is out of the question. This is because of my heart. I guide my own actions, and harming another person who does not deserve it is not in my nature. Any pastor who thinks it's perfectly fine for a person to act on his base instincts rather than controlling those urges does not understand what God wants from us.

Nova Kali

He is a rapist. Only rapist talk like this. A man is has a choice to be an animal or human. Get rid of this POS.

Rev. Michael Gerraghty II

There's a particular quote in my favorite story Alice in wonderland that a red and black clad woman says that's very suitable for this "pastor".

Julie Lydia Rogers

Where is the love of Christ in this man’s comments? Shameful what the American church has become today. No wonder people are leaving the church in droves. As ministers your one job is to what, shame people? Reject people? Hate people? No. Christ’s one commandment was to love one another as I have loved you. Have you forgotten the life and teachings of Christ. He loved the poor the meek, the sick the downtrodden and yes even women who wear shorts. It is a ministers job to not point out the sins of other( ye who is without sin, cast the first stone. Why point out the splinter in someone else’s eye when you have a log in your own?) but it is to share the good news of Christ who triumphed over sin. Unfortunately too many ministers miss that point by cherry picking the Bible to prove their point. Christs message is of hope for everyone. Not just the rich white man sitting in his hypocritical pew. But to love the sinner, love the person , be it black, white, brown, yellow or red. Be it straight, or gay, be it it poor or rich. Be it man or women. We are all created equal in our creators eyes and we are loved equally despite our sins. This should be the message from the pulpit and nothing else.

Kevin Oconnell

This guy is a complete idiot, not even worthy of breathing our air , who ordained him . How about the young men that wear their pants down below their butts, are they deserving of being raped. First learn what being a man is before preaching it.

Liz Michelle Roberts

That's total bs. As a conservative and Trump supporter I find what you said offensive and frankly, stupid. Yes, some Republicans have banned abortion but there are still a lot of us who are pro choice. Take the blinders off andook at the real world not the narrow hate filled one you see.

Mike Stand

The preacher is saying he has less control over himself than a woman in shorts. He's saying SHE controls HIM.

The same guy who says, "I am the head of my house" is also saying, "Of course, I can be controlled by any woman I see, if she simply dresses a certain way."

Michael Patrick Ferrell

Leonard and Any other NC White supremacist gets the rope for this crap

Gureg Amun Ankh

He who is without sin cast the first stone, judge not lest you be judged, sin, hate discrimination starts in the mind, your intentions, those words he spoke are evil and wicked and shows his true nature, see the nature of a serpents tongue strikes quick and the venom moves slowly through your blood stream to the heart, he is no more than a wolf in sheep clothing, when a supposed man of the Most High speaks in that manner, you must get as far away from him as possible so that the venom of that serpent doesn’t contaminate your heart and soul. Mine your mind for the jewels of your soul

Peggy Tallent

This man may be having lustful thoughts, when someone scorns people about what a woman is wearing, he is looking and lusting himself, he is angry at himself because legalistic, religious, good ole boys should not be acting like this. You do not sin for looking, you sin for actually pursuing an unfaithful affair. Someone should explain this to him. If you look and let your imagination just go to the wrong place, like having an affair with the woman you are looking at then yes you are sinning.

This man should be looking at the heart and be concerned with leading people to Jesus Christ, people are lost, that means they are not in the word of God, they don't have a relationship with Him, they don't know or believe how much He loves them.

This goes much deeper, in his heart, he has an unhealthy relationship towards women. God does not care what you wear, He cares about if you believe in His son. When you receive Jesus into your spirit, you change and you cover up. You are not who you used to be.

Now today, styles are very short, it is all about how much you can show without being arrested, but women want to wear what is in style and should be able to, men are always looking and they see these styles very pleasurable, people don't always do the right thing. I can't speak for the world, except to say we need Jesus, we need Him every minute and every second. Jesus says our hearts are evil, and that is why we need Him to help us to do the right thing.

Jeremiah 17:9-10 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.

Steven Ferrell

He should not be in the pulpit. Him saying that is what muslin women are forced to cover from head to toe , because he and their leaders are saying men are not able to control themselves. As if God did not give man the ability, so a woman must do it for them.

I don’t think a woman should wear shorts so short her butt cheeks are showing out into public, but they certainly are NOT, again are NOT asking to be raped.

Donald G Magel

Could this be why the Evangelicals continue to follow trump, an adjudicated sexual assaulter? “He is just being a man”?

Deborah Lynn Strafuss

Well, in our business world when someone exhibits clear evidence of bias we require them to partake of some training. I would rather see this gentleman placed on administrative leave and required to complete some well-chosen training.The mind is a terrible thing to lose.....

And while we are at it - I think this brings up the whole subect of ministry training.

Takaya Kovani Sweeney

Shorts are actually a sort of impediment to rape as the assailant would have to fight to gain access.

Whereas the dresses that this ahole so laments, are much easier access.

Perhaps, that’s his point…seems to me he has experience.

Additionally, is he saying small female children also deserve rape because they wear shorts too.

Does he not know they make very short dresses that are more “scandalous” than ANYZ short…I’ve worn a few.😂

My husband, dad, brothers or any man I know would never say this.

How does he explain the rape of West Indy women wearing floor length skirts?

The raping of women wearing full veil hijabs?

This is not a woman problem. Seems a lot of people don’t want to hold men accountable for shid.

What a fg dweeb and a loser.

Robin Anne Hannon

There are no words to express my disgust. This man should be removed from the ministry, and as well be reported as a possible rapist. There are medications that basically castrate men like this which is what he deserves.

Robert E. Polston

Wow! Yes, men are men, and obviously some men are irresponsible idiots! I don't blame the minister here as he is obviously ignorant, poorly trained, and supported by fools! Who else would sit still for such rubbish?

Rev. Bobby

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Basic training was difficult for me. All the other recruits had self esteem. They had confidence. I had never had self esteem or confidence. My parents never built me up. All they ever did was beat me down. I never had a girlfriend until I was 18 because I had no confidence, no self esteem. My parents never nourished me. Their parenting style was belittling me, embarrassing me in front of the one or two friends I had thinking that embarrassing me would motivate me to "straighten up", They destroyed my soul. I left home one night after my stepdad came home drunk and beat me. That night I slept in a truck stop TV room in Kenly.

Three drill sergeants at Fort Benning had 12 weeks to make me into a person. I made their job difficult because they had to build me from the ground up in only 12 weeks whereas the other recruits they only had to train. About a year after I joined the Army, the Army decided that anyone who didn't have a high school diploma would be sent to high school. GEDs were no longer kosher. So I was ordered by my commanding officer to go to high school on base in Germany during the day. I was astonished. Somehow I made B's and I graduated. I'd never had a "B" in anything before.

After 3 years in Germany and a year at Fort Hood, I received an honorable discharge from the Army and came home. When I got home, I went to see the old man. I remember the day I walked into his shop. He was sitting at his desk. The old wood floor creaked as I walked to his office. I found him sitting at his old wooden desk cleaning up some old tin Lionel trains with WD-40 so he could sell them. I walked up to his desk, ashamed. I was ashamed because the Army had taught me to be proud and to be a leader, but I couldn't claim that until I made things right. He stopped what he was doing and looked up at me and didn't say anything. I said, "Mr. Gurley, I owe you two hundred and sixty dollars" and I laid a check on his desk. The old man picked it up, looked at it, looked at me, and asked, "Why do you bring this to me after all these years?" He was a wealthy man; it wasn't a matter of the money. If he cared about the money he could've easily contacted the Army and had me arrested when I had skipped town and arrived at Benning. I said, "Forgive me. I was young and confused and dumb. I didn't know what I know now." We talked for awhile about how I'd been over the last several years, and when I left he walked me to the door and shook my hand. That day that old man gave me something I'd never been given before ~ mercy. I didn't deserve the kindness he had shown me years earlier, but that didn't seem to matter to him. He had seen the larger picture years earlier: Not what I was, but what I could be.

I wasn't reformed yet. I had a 3 year old son. High school and the Army didn't teach parenting skills. Trying to compensate, I enrolled in the college police academy near my hometown but abandoned that. I left my wife and son and moved to Texas. Still trying to compensate for my failures, I worked as a security guard, part time as a district court officer with the county, and eventually opened my own security patrol company. Those options were available to me because of the mercy of that old man. I could've never been a licensed armed security guard, a district court officer, or taken the Texas State Board Managers exam with a criminal record. Then one day I realized that I had done to my son what my father had done to me, so I moved back home. I was ashamed and disappointed when I learned that the old man had passed away earlier, no one had told me, and thus I didn't go to his funeral. I owed him at least that much.

I enrolled at the community college and over the next three years, while my "new" new stepfather and my mother supported me and gave me a place to live. I was earning a degree in Computer Information Systems with a minor in Network Security and Routing and Switching and one day I received a letter in the mail from the college that I had made the President's list (the community college equivalent of the Dean's list) ~ this criminal high school drop out who never made better than a "C" in high school. I graduated in the first class of the year 2000. My first real job other than the Army was with a company who provided tech support for a major grocery chain on the eastern seaboard and then with a ISP who provided tech support in Eastern North Carolina.

Since then I earned the Master SCUBA Diver rating as a rescue diver, attended online colleges and earned a Masters Degree in Religion, and a Doctor of Divinity Degree. I volunteer at the Emergency Operations Center in my county, and am now working towards an education in ministry with a 3.7 GPA.

My story is testament that we should look at what the man has the potential to become, not what he is. My V.A. shrink tells me that "People do not change, they modify their behavior". I am not sure I agree with that philosphpy.

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Y'all beating him up pretty bad, and I know he deserves it.

But how about let's leave the beating for God to do. That's his jurisdiction. It's Gods place to punish this pastor, not my job, not the internets job, and not your job. My faith tells me my job is to help him to better himself, to support him by helping him to reform himself and bring him back to the Lord. He's obviously lost his vision somewhere along the way. God says every sinner is salvageable for whatever sin he's done. If we cast this man into the trash bin, we've failed him, we've failed God, and we've failed ourselves as Christians. This is our mission...to rescue people like him who can't rescue themselves. The sinless don't need me. They don't need rescuing. I have no purpose in a room full of saints. God has provided someone an opportunity to change this pastor. He's a human just like we all are, right? This man needs God AND US, and God says he deserves our forgiveness for what he's said and done. If God can forgive him, and we can't, then we are over-ruling Gods decision, and none of us have that authority. The Bible tells us that even angels in heaven don't have that authority.

Let he who has never made a stupid hurtful comment cast the first stone. Yeah, I've done it. I've said things that were stupid, wrong, hurtful, and offensive. If you've never done that then bless you, you're a better man than I ever will be.

I started out as a kid in a single parent home. I never knew my father. Sure I knew who he was, I had met him once or twice, but he was never in my life. My new stepdad I got at the age of seven was a drunk. My home was a place of turmoil, profanity, conflict, and domestic violence. My stepdad was a hard worker, but he was also a drunk. My mother worked two jobs most of the time. When I was fourteen I stole a shotgun and was going to kill my stepfather the next time he beat my mom. I kept it hidden inside the wall in my bedroom. I planned what I was going to do. When I heard the yelling and fighting at night, I would take it from it's hiding place, and walk down the hallway. They would be either in the dining room or the living room and I would shoot him. Our home was rural. 9-1-1 was 30-45 minutes away. There was no calling the cops when the fights stared. 9-1-1 would take too long to arrive. The Lord must've had my hand because that day never came; she left him soon after I stole that shotgun. Maybe that was Gods intervention to keep me from spending the rest of my life in prison for murder. The highest grade I ever made in high school was a C. My usual grade was a D. I failed 10th grade English but the teacher passed me anyway, but I failed 11th grade English again as well and I dropped out of high school in the 11th grade.

At 17 while working odd jobs, I made a young dumb decision and committed a burglary. Not just one time, about eight times. On the last burglary I was caught and the old man whose business I burglarized eight times told the cop not to take me to jail just yet. As he and I and the cop sat at a table at the police department, the old man made me a deal. If I repaid the money I had stolen from him, maintained a 10pm curfew, and got a job he wouldn't press charges. I didn't understand his wisdom at the time, I was too dumb and I simply didn't care. I only repaid a part of the money I stole from him and I ran off to the Army, glad at my skill at being able to evade the deal we had made.

I was about as screwed up mentally as a teenager could be, but I didn't know it at the time. I shoplifted, I stole, I cheated, I broke other laws. I was sent to live with my uncle and work in his business until I finally left there because I couldn't conform to the old mans curfew. My cousins were resentful that my uncle was putting all this effort into me and they often provoked me and finally one day my cousin framed me to get rid of me. I was unemployed, homeless, uneducated, but the recruiter said Uncle Sam had the ideal solution for people like me if I'd go to the community college and get my GED. All I had to do was sign my name on his form. Thanks to that old mans wisdom and kindness, I wasn't denied enlistment due to a criminal record. Even though I didn't uphold my end of our deal, he didn't keep his word to have me arrested.

CONTINUED...

arawngraalrd

He spaks from his own evil, and this normally comes before Repentence. Personally, I feel Marriage is for Life, and begins at Consummation, and could, in such circumstances, be rather short. We also have people from a diversity of ethnic traditions and, those not seeking to be so casually married, should dress more cautiously.

Sandra A Rasmussen

That sounds like the rantings of a sexual predator-not only should he be fired, but he should be closely watched by law enforcement

Bridget Kielas-Fecyk

This also cuts to the core of rape in churches in general. Look at how MANY pastors have been caught raping young children, boys and girls, that the Churches protect. They go and cover up all of these crimes, and hide the documents. They fight ALL attempts to get the documentation into the hands of law enforcement, and simply go and "reassign" the pastors to new churches.

The pastors keep doing these crimes in the NEW churches, it gets found out, documented, and the pastor gets reassigned again, but NEVER punished.

So what kind of culture does a person expect for this kind of behavior if the churches don't step in and SEVERELY punish the pastors doing this?

Bridget Kielas-Fecyk

Sadly, a lot of INCELS like him believe rape should be completely legal. Because "women have to be put in their place." It's sickening as eff and people like him need to not only be put on sex offender lists, but isolated from the rest of society.

These people are dangerous, and they're cruel. Sadly, they're also a large part of the core base of some political parties that also believe that democracy is a "failed mistake" and that the nation needs to be a strict theocracy.

Daniel Gray

No this is just stupid and he should be removed. Its people like him that give Christians a bad rap.

Mountainsage

I understand the reverend apologized, but victim blaming is not the answer. Rapists are responsible for their words and actions and rape is about ‘power over’ another human. The reverend may benefit from counseling to explore his deep seated hatred of women.

Kevin Michael Zurrin

Well, I guess that would give Satan a pass as well, Eve wasn't even wearing pants; or anything else;-?

Marion Alma Nelson

No rape is justified he needs to be looked into for his out ragious ideas

Marion Alma Nelson

No rape is justified. He needs to be looked into and fired for such outlandish ideas

Cynthia Mandello

THIS, unfortunately, is precisely what the Evangelicals believe, and why Sharia Law totally covers women so MEN aren't "tempted". It's what the Trump Cult will bring back.

Here's what I'd say: if you can't exercise self-control & rape MY daughter, I won't exercise self-control in my vengeance. If HE expects to be forgiven then I'll expect to be forgiven for my retribution. Men have gotten away with this for far too long. Enough.

I watched the movie, "Women Speak"; women are always expected to forgive.

Theresa C. Marquess

The Reverend's comments were uncalled for, and putting an apology on the church's sign is lame. The man needs professional help if his thoughts go in the direction of his sermon. Women in his community may not be as safe as they thought they were...

John Robert Milner

Moron

Joy

Nothing here hasn’t been said that I can offer except eff that guy and his fake righteousness. Countless women (and men) have been horrifically raped over time, and this excuse of his is pathetic. It is not up to the woman (or man in some cases) to keep themselves from being raped! People are sick in the head and this fake preacher is on top of the list. Also he needs to be watched by LEO. He is a danger to all women in his community.

Merlin

Must be a Taliban preacher.

Jimmy Moon

How many of you have thought the same thing, but did not say it out loud. But, he is human and allowed to make mistakes. Still, if you dress like a whore, be careful of the attention you bring to yourself. Don't be in places where that attire is noticed by certain people, like perverts.
1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array. KJV. Rape is wrong. But, in today's society, women are downgraded to be just a toy. Life is nothing to the lost, just a commodity. Sadly, children are getting to be the same.

Father Frederick

There is really no debate on this subject as it falls into the category of wrong thoughts, inappropriate justification, and then stupidity for doubling down. Being a minister does not exempt one from saying wrong things. But it is troubling when after they say something wrong that they double down. One as to ask if the defiance to amend their words is to save face within their church, or an honest belief of the statement.

This is not too surprising as in the past decade more and more people are releasing incredulous statements which they would have never stated. But now with an entitled, and offended society there is the need to say things like that out of ignorance or stupidity.

Nicholas J Page

BS no woman should go through rape it's the sick mentality I'll perps that are responsible for these heinous crimes a woman can wear whatever they choose to wear and this Pastor should be defrocked and is too dangerous to work for any church organisations again.Come to United Kingdom and come to my house and make those accusations you will regret opening your mouth

SueW

I have nothing to add except another voice saying this toxic subhuman needs to resign. There is no apology that can walk back what he said, because it’s what he believes.

John W

Unbelievable in this day and age that a so-called "man of God" would make such a remark. It is as if his mentality is rooted in the 16th Century rather than the 21st Century. The whole "she asked for it" or "she deserved it" attitude towards sexual assault regardless of what a person chooses to wear or not to wear screams in the face of what rape actually is. And that "apology", isn't anything. He needs to broadcast his apology and why he has been educated as to the nature of his error with the same conviction that his original remark was. And churches wonder why attendance is diminishing amongst young people. Well, there's one of the examples why.

Dr. Zerpersande, NSC

He didn’t cause hurt. He showed his religiously delusional, misogynistic stupidity. I can tell you one thing for sure….I’m not going to his church!!!

Russel A. Kester

The pastor made a simple and dramatic statement to the effect that women shouldn't dress and act like whores. And they shouldn't. He also made a correct observation that men are driven by what they see and that some men will conduct themselves shamefully under such circumstances. The pastor did not rape anyone, he did not tell others to rape anyone, and he did not write about raping someone (those types of books can be found on the library shelves of your local jr. high school). So let's talk truth. Rap music has glorified raping women, forcing them to suck d***, killing fa*s, killing cops, and so much more for going on decades and the woke progressive crowd have rapped right along with them or kept as silent as Will Smith sitting in the corner holding his Oscar while his wife is getting banged by a 20 year old because it's good for her esteem. But let a Christian pastor make a couple of statements that he wouldn't personally blame just the man if a woman behaved inappropriately and suddenly the sky is falling. No. If the woke don't protest and cancel rap "artists" for their despicable lyrics repeated over and over for decades, then they and their ilk can shut up about this pastor. The woke who live in glass houses are always the first to throw stones and then cry bloody murder when someone throws stones back. Women must either act like ladies or put on their big girl panties and accept the consequences.

Dr. Zerpersande, NSC

I’m from NC and spent the first 40 years of my life there. People like this made my decision to expatriate much easier. The North Carolinian Redneck has some endearing qualities. This guy demonstrates some of the abhorent examples.

Robert J Rook

I find this disgusting from a 'Man of the Cloth'. Does not sound like he was brought up in a decent family.

James Mounts

Amusing how we as a culture choose to condemn those beliefs in a Christian but to protect them in a moslem;

Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox

And they wonder why religion is on its death bed.

Colleen McAllister

Put him in the pulpit to formally apologize, and then resign. If my pastor said something like that I would guarantee that I would immediately ask for his resignation. Very objectionable and dangerous.

Rev. Elizabeth

This man needs to be fired and not allowed to practice his religion anywhere. He’s a dangerous man. I’m not a violent person but if he would say that to my face I would slap him. It shouldn’t matter how a female dresses. Also, he’s dumb. Rapers don’t do that because the female is dressed a certain way. Rapers are control freaks. It is how they control the person to behave and on and on. So it doesn’t matter what the female wears. It’s all about power for them.

Reverend Andrew

I have so much to say but do not know how or where to begin. This is a despicable display, he needs to de-frocked

oy_gevalt

I am also a man, and somehow can get through life without raping anyone — even if they're 'asking for it' by having the audacity to, say, wear shorts. I don't get this.

Lionheart

It’s possibly as bad as God condoning slavery. I’m sure they’d both get on well together. 🤷🏼

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Christopher Lee Campbell

His views are an insult to the 99.9% of men (and women) who control their worst impulses because we are civilized. Saying that it's acceptable to rape women who excite you is the equivalent of saying that it's acceptable to murder someone who makes you angry or steal from those who make you jealous because they have more possessions. As social animals we don't do those things and punish the few who do. It's a bizarre religious understanding that condones rape.

Scott MacArthur

These comments are dangerous.

“A man is a man” should mean he can control himself, and make good decisions..

Rev. Dr. Father JJ

he's been frocked so how can he be wrong? clearly goD has looked up and blasted him to leech the turd of dog. I say double-frock the manister and bring unto him girls in short-jhorts. praze jebus and ding-a-ling-ding

Dr. Zerpersande, NSC

Accrding to the bible it isn’t about shorts but about engaged/not engaged. If engaged the rapist is put to death. If not engaged then he has to pay the father 50 shekels and marry the girl.

This obviously isn't in play these days, huh. It would put dating sites/services out of business. I mean any guy who had 50 shekels of silver, about 500g and $0.75/g would be about $40, would just have to find an unengaged woman that met his fancy and he’d be set. That may only be for virgins so maybe these days you’d more than likely get a discount. Of course in biblical times marrying age was really young. God spiritually raped a young virgin. Of course he sacrificed himself as his own son and gave up a 3-day weekend.

Anyway, I couldn’t find anything in the bible per se about ‘shorts’. And I’m not a lawyer so don’t go out raping women with $40 in your pocket expecting blue skies and a warm bed. Have to say that. Anyone that believes the bible, well, you know….not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Marilyn

He is not a pastor nor a Christian.
This is a despicable display. Not only poor behavior of a grown man choosing to speak this out loud and actually believe it.

Robert Hauck, MD, FAAP

Not only discharged from his congregation but also de-frocked. He has no credibility as "a man of God."

Susan Colmenares

The rev needs to go. This is a dangerous man who should not be allowed to preach.

Jake Reynolds

Rev. Bobby needs to be fired, there was mention of “not being 50 years ago” doesn’t matter, rape isn’t a sexual release, it’s an attack, anyone thinking this is normal does not belong anywhere that he/she can broadcast these views.