Solar-powered devices playing Bible verses were recently discovered in the territory of a remote, largely uncontacted tribe in the Amazon.
The devices were found in Brazil’s Javari Valley, located on the border between Brazil and Peru. The 32,000 square mile territory is home to the Korubo people, colloquially called “clubbers” for their fondness of warclubs.
Brazilian law forbids missionaries from interacting with the Korubo as well as other uncontacted tribes for both safety and privacy reasons... so why are some missionaries breaking the law to reach them?
Contacting the Korubo
The Kurobo people are believed to be one of the few Indigenous tribes left on earth who live primarily in isolation from the outside world. Throughout the 20th century, organized expeditions to make contact with them routinely resulted in the deaths of explorers, and in 1987 the Brazilian government made it illegal to enter their territory without permission.
Now, a group of missionaries has seemingly found a way to illegally evangelize to this small tribe – possibly without putting their lives at risk. A recent investigation found at least seven solar-powered, pocket-sized devices reciting scripture in Spanish and Portuguese, as well as sermons by American Baptist Dr. Charles Stanley. At least one of the small yellow and grey devices is held in the possession of a Kurobo elder.
How Did the Devices Get There?
The durable devices, called “Messengers”, are produced by a group called In Touch Ministries and specifically designed to bring the gospel to the most remote parts of the world. According to their website, the devices are intended “to make sure the message of salvation in Jesus Christ is accessible to those who have never heard.”
How they got deep into the Amazon remains a mystery. Were they secretly hiked into the remote village by a team of dedicated evangelists? Or perhaps a chartered flight air dropped the devices over Korubo territory?
In Touch Ministries’ CEO Seth Grey says he doesn’t know how they got there – but he says he had nothing to do with it. Grey stressed that he’s fully supportive of missionary work, but stated his group would never facilitate illegal activity. “We don’t go anywhere we’re not allowed,” he said.
But someone did. Authorities believe the devices may be the work of three missionaries linked to groups who previously attempted to contact the tribe in recent years, including during the COVID pandemic, when the Korubo would be especially at-risk of annihilation by infection – and it seems likely Brazilian authorities will launch an investigation soon.
Is Evangelizing to Remote Communities Ethical?
The case has renewed the discourse on the ethics of proselytizing to uncontacted communities.
You may recall the case of John Chau, a Christian missionary who was killed in 2018 by a remote tribe after illegally chartering a boat to their island to proselytize to them. Though some lamented Chau’s death as a tragedy (and some even called it murder), much of public opinion was on the side of the North Sentinelese people.
Chau, they argued, was an invader in their lands, and also put the tribe at risk of extermination by possibly bringing pathogens which they have no immunity to.
It’s a risk pro-Indigenous groups say isn’t taken seriously enough by missionaries, and they argue that contact itself is harmful beyond the possibility of spreading disease.
“We are extremely concerned about evangelical missionaries approaching uncontacted peoples – no matter how they do it,” says Survival International spokesperson Cailín Burns. “They bring diseases for which uncontacted peoples have no immunity, they open the way for land-grabbers and other criminals, and they erode the culture of those communities.”
Yet missionaries say it’s their God-given duty to evangelize to these communities – no matter the cost. As John Chau wrote in his journal just days before his death, “Lord let your will be done. If you want me to get actually shot or even killed with an arrow, then so be it.”
What do you think of missionaries proselytizing to these remote communities, and missionary work more broadly? Should missionaries be allowed into these remote locations to bring Jesus to little-contacted tribes like the Korubo?
63 comments
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Leslie A. Hulberg Née Tomasura
This whole idea of spreading the word in such a manner is wrong. My native Hawaiian friend and every indigenous person she knows hates the missionaries for what they did to her people and her culture. We are also acquainted with some indigenous people within the continental United States and they too are angry at the missionaries who forced them to follow their faith and even forced them into schools thousands of miles from their homes. They are angry because they have lost their culture and the faith of their ancestors. Not to mention the abuse and death they suffered at the hands of these so called missionaries. I’m not a door knocker, nor do I impress my beliefs upon others. I live my life according to what feels right to me and I encourage everyone to do the same. However, if someone shows an interest or asks me about my faith, I will tell them. The main reason being is, at a young age, my mother decided that the faith she was then practicing, was the rightful one, and that all others were wrong. In her beliefs to save us, she constantly brought up her faith and her zeal in wanting us to follow. Instead, what she did was drive me further away from a deity than I had ever been previously and the last thing I ever wanted to hear was a “god speech”. If these so called people of faith really wanted to teach these people to believe (rather than conform), they should wait for these tribes to ask or be curious enough to watch the way the missionaries live their daily lives and decide if they want to emulate them or not. Otherwise they will drive a wedge between the missionaries and the tribes and the tribes will lose their individualism and replace it with forced conformity. If we look at history, we can see that this type of behavior never ends well.
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Religion as a Weapon is Wrong
If Evangelicals want to find people that need saving, they should check out the United States government. It is loaded with criminals, rapists, racists, pedophiles, protectors of pedophiles and liars. Murderers, drug dealers and violent people have been "pardoned" to go and commit additional egregious acts. A shooting of multiple police officers in Virginia today was addressed by Congress with "thoughts and prayers" and zero solutions towards mental health counseling or reasonable gun laws. Hegseth's pastor is a protector of a man that raped his own infant son. Look it up, that's who he follows as his religious leader. Indigenous people around the world need to be protected from so called Evangelicals spreading the word of Jesus, live their own lives without interference, and be spared by people breaking all 10 Commandments forcing upon them the Ten Commandments. I know Evangelical people that have traveled the world to spread the word and they are good people, however, I don't agree with underhanded tactics to reach people that don't want to be reached.
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Kevin Venteicher
would think such device would beneficial to them and the ones trying to communicate with them prayers
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Patti Anne Lisenbee
These tribes cut off all contact with the outside world for a reason. They want to be left alone. What missionaries refuse to consider is that one puff of air from one person could wipe out an entire tribe in a few days. The entire tribe could be gone. Then what would the missionaries do? They'd have no one left to preach to. These people want to be left alone. LEAVE THEM BE, THEN! Even one germ left on one of those mechanical devices could decimate a lot of people. There's plenty of people in cities to preach to about your particular brand of beliefs, go bother them. At least they can tell you to F*** off!
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Daniel Todd Kamm
Wow, that turned into a conversation. I very rarely follow up with my posts, because it's easier to have my say than some silly argument over nothing.
But personal beliefs aside, personal intentions aside, proselytizing, evangelizing, or assuming a "mission" of some sort seems contrary to everything that the prophet "Jesus," said or directed his followers to do.
Especially in documents written long after he and all of his contemporaries were long gone, and they couldn't read or write either ...so what they left were word of mouth.
It seems to me that the prophet Jesus encouraged people to worship privately in their homes, and do what good they could privately, without drawing attention to themselves (which even today is a very long tradition in Judaism... the proper WAS Jewish after all... 1-1, person to person... because that's where real things happen... today as well.
It stinks that Jesus' teachings were able to be co-opted by the Roman Empire to service its imperialistic goals... expansion, subjugation, etc. Which is why our modern ideas of evangelizing, or assuming missionary work in effect has really been all about forcing our "inferiors," to our Western ways.
That's messed up... and a falsehood.
These aboriginal peoples across the globe are more G-d's children than any church stadium full of ... abominable messages and behaviors, and money collectors.
If one wants to serve others, there is no doubt plenty right next door that wants doing, and doesn't require the insertion of "wrong thinking" aimed at "saving" someone.
Bring a flashlight...a hammer...a drill...a plunger...whatever.
Or find a hobby making model planes out of aluminum pop cans...you'll do less harm... and G-d's children can be left alone and in peace.
Have a blessed and positive...
Peace, Out...tk
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Lisbeth Kieran Bushey
I'm tired of users like ServantOfJudgement being allowed to continually violate the code of conduct and that there's no reporting feature.
That said, onto the article.
This was illegal, the people don't even speak Spanish or Portuguese, and this could have caused an outbreak of diseases these people have no immunity to. Missionaries need to stop breaking the law.
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ServantOfJudgement
Ms Bushey,
I do follow the guidelines. I'd say I wish other do as well but I like freedom of speech quite a bit. It's important to me that all these members here are permitted to directly call me names and insult my gender, spiritual beliefs, political beliefs, sexual preference and skin color. I like to see true colors. Any Christian is fair game. Even the woke ones get fed on by 4 or 5 at a time by the love love love crowd when there's blood in the water. I've been called quite a few names and the moderators do a good job of preventing cuss words although it wouldn't bother me if they let them through. Even in this thread(and many others) members here call for and applaud the death of Christians. They get thumbs up for it my dear.
I do agree though at least partly. Any missionary work should be done face to face. In this case it's an extremely unwise thing to risk killing off those you're trying to bring good news to. It's commonly known even our declining public education system that these things can and do happen. Even traveling to Mexico will bring a brother down. There are places in real need that could use real measurable help that missionaries often bring. Water wells, medicines, education and so on.
Please be aware of who you're running with, some of them aren't very nice at all.
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Delight Phillips
The line should be drawn, when you infringe upon the rights of others. Those rights remain the same, no matter what country it occurs in. I enjoy spreading the gospel and sharing bible verses. But, I don't shove my beliefs in people's faces. These indigenous tribes have been kept non-communicable for a reason. I believe what is being done is indeed a crime and should be fully investigated.
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Udaysree
I find it disrespectful when indigenous nations are not left alone. They have their own beliefs and traditions that are meaningful to them. Not everyone has to be a Christian. I would even go so far as to say its a form of violence against others just to convince them Christianity or Jesus is best. Jesus would certainly not approve of this kind of behavior as he is all love.
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Clive Hessing
I support spreading the gospel to all corners of the globe now that it has reached every corner it needs to be fairly shared with everyone that way people can make their own chose whether to follow God or not. It is not any governments chose whether or not someone from anywhere can be exposed to the ruler of creation as well as the originator and author of all things good!
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Iden Charles Siegbert Hill
There's an outstanding movie titled 'The Gods must Be Crazy' about a bushman in South Africa who finds a discarded Coke bottle and the tribe don't know what it is so consider it a gift from the gods. Members of the tribe become covetous of the gift which causes aggressive dissension among them, so it is decided to return the gift. The movie is about the bushman, who found it, efforts to do so. It is a comedy mainly about Afrikaans racial stereotypes.
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Richard Schulherr
Religion is the root of all evil, and is exemplified by your aggression.
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June Whalen Gonzalez
Organized religion - "mans" interpretation of "God's" law is the true root of evil. I don't for one minute believe that Ghandi was denied enterence into his "heaven" (svarga) because he didnot believe in Jesus.
All "religions" are trying to explain man's existence and purpose on earth while providing a glimmer of hope in a better place without illness and strife.
The teachings of Jesus was to bring the news to his own peoples, who rejected him. He then spoke with others ... he didnot come to create a new religion or convert others. He was mearly a messenger - the Golden rule, 10 Commandments, the Virtues......found in all religions in one form or another.
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Dylan Tuatha Le Danaan
I have never been able to give credence the whole idea of missionary work. it is rude and disrespectful to walk into another's home and browbeat them into following your path. Who are you to know what others are supposed to be doing?
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Tom Boocher
To claim to "preach the gospel" is to deny that the apostles and Paul fulfilled their mission fully 100%. Religions which take on this dead work and pull the specificity of biblical passages into a generic self-agenda fail to realize that the task Jesus gave just 13 men included the power to raise the dead.
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Ari Joseph Bertine
- Electronics can also carry pathogens.
- In Spanish and Portuguese? LOL! Yeah, I'm sure the uncontacted indigenous people are really impressed with a bunch of alien jibber-jabber noises. These folks speak Korubo and Chankueshko. Stupid missionaries.
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Tom Herman
Breaking the law is unacceptable. These devices would make good fuel for bonfires.
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Rev. Carol M Anaski-Figurski
God works in mysterious ways! It's a gray area if modern technology is dropped by drones in a rainforest. Individually you have a right to believe whatever they want. Along with freedom of speech. It's no different than bibles not allowed in china but are smuggled in despite being forbidden. There's a yearning for Christ around the world. Even in Africa they closed all the churches that were not catholic. They only allow Catholicism. Other religions are taboo but still probably exist due to Gd's nature. So mote it & be blest be
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James Trenton Smith
I will talk to whomever I want about Jesus...wherever and however I can reach them and I'll do it all day long...regardless of what any other "man" says...regardless of what the "law" says, and regardless of what the consequences may be. Oh...and a fight goes with it... The days of pushing some Christians around on these types of matters is over.
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Rev_Shaun
I find the best way to deal with pushy Christian preachers is to laugh at them.
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Rev. Donut
No. Stay away.
I don't trust that "missionary"
I do not trust the outside people that went there in person or by air dropping something.
It's not about the tribe living their life. They are living their life.
Don't interfere.
It's about somebody wanting to get noticed and push their own agenda.
The dude would be better off refocusing his efforts to some inner city, there's plenty of opportunity there.
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David Dorrycott
I reject you and your message. Now go away, forever.
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Wesley Richard Hunt
ServantofJudgement you tickle me. And why do you hide behind the name as you do.
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obere mchugh
if they made it illegal to get in touch with these people leave them alone, its a tribe that is isolated and who has been doing so by them self's for ever dont contact them as its not any one's business to try and give them the good word of your jesus christ and christiandom. as such they are indigenous and believe there own way that is natural.
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Joseph Grieco
I'd be willing to bet when they find out who is doing this, they will be associated with the same folks trying to clearcut the Amazon Rain Forest for farming. However, in order to do that, they need to "indoctrinate" the indigenous people to make that acceptable to them.
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ServantOfJudgement
Always I hear Christians don't follow their doctrine. Continually judging Christianity against its mantra. Hate driven speech in a double barrel chain fed word machine gun aimed at gunning down Christians any time we poke our heads out. Take away the law and y'all won't hesitate to pull out the machete with a psychopathic grin.
Well, now that some Christians are following their doctrine by spreading the good news as Jesus The Christ commanded, the antichrists DON'T want Christians to follow their doctrine?
Jesus said you would do this. He knew you would even resort to murdering his followers as a handful here have expressed on several occasions. Oh how our Lord knows the psyche of fallen man. What total depravity, how Man loves his pigsty, putrid and vile.
You make the Bible and the existence of the Christ very very difficult to disprove.
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Patricia Ann Gross
It's not that Christians don't follow their doctrine, it is that there are hundreds of different ones, and some are dimetrically opposed to the others. Every Christian picks which parts of Christianity speaks to them, and what it means to be a follower of Christ. Some put more stock in The Great Commission (which is more like the evangelical people in this article) and others are touched by the Sermon on the Mount (my favorite.) Then there are those that are sure of Christ's imminent return and are preparing for the apocolypse. As a theological student the conflict between salvation by works and grace was the hardest theological question to get my head around. I don't think it's one or the other, but the two are intertwined, but none of us will really know until we arrive at the gate guarded by St. Peter.
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Joseph Grieco
Study the history of this area. These people have only been preached to for one single reason - to subjugate them and seize their territory and resources. This is only being done to condition them to leave the territory so exploitation of the region can take place. The folks behind the current operations to clear cut the Amazon rainforest, despite prohibitions from the Brazilian Federal and State Governments have been identified as members of Evangelical Christian groups who do not believe the laws apply to them.
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Reverend Bobbie
That is funny since all the hate filled rhetoric is coming from you.
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Patricia Ann Gross
As one whose calling is for missionary work, this type of evangelism is not supposed to be the purpose of the work. The work itself is to be the message of Jesus (as in providing medical care or technical expertise to improve the lives of tribes/areas riddled by disease and at risk of being eradicated.) It is never to be done without permission. I understand that much of the history of mission work has been for the purpose of conquest, and supported by those that would benefit the most from it, so if you want to find out who is doing this, the easiest way is to follow the money. Who has the most to benefit from a "conquest" of these tribes? What natural resources do they want? The best way to do that is to convert the tribes so they move out so they can move in.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Do these people think their God would abandon people who have never heard of the bible or Jesus Christ? And is threatening the life of an entire civilization worth spreading religion? I don’t remember the bible saying anything about risking the lives of innocent people to spread the word. This has to stop!
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ServantOfJudgement
No we don't James. The Bible is very clear about your statement. It's a great question you've asked and it's handily answered.
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Reverend Paula Copp
Why do christians have to stick their noses into other people’s business? Why can’t they leave other cultures alone? Jesus said that if his message wasn’t accepted in a town, his followers should shake the dust off their feet and move on…
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ServantOfJudgement
That's right Paula.
Stay with me on this.
How can a message be accepted or not accepted....if...its ....never.....heard.
You see, in order to reject something you have to be exposed to it.
You've rejected it so go about your business.
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Colleen McAllister
Sticking to the point of the above article I believe that whoever planted those devices in the restricted areas were in violation of the law and also of Jesus' command. We are to evangelize to those around us — not to every person who exists. The world in those days meant your world, those ares that you personally knew of or could travel to. These people need to stick to the people around them and leave the hidden people alone.
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ServantOfJudgement
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Reverend Bobbie
I am sorry that I have to make this comment but Servantofjudgement is repeatedly nasty and vindictive and consistently behaves in ways that are so non-Christian that I cannot tolerate it any more. Can the Mods please set this person straight on proper discourse with others who do not personally agree with his beliefs. We are all free to have our own opinions but this person is nasty to everyone. I have read at least 5 different versions of the Bible the Torah and the Koran. I have studied Sufism Shintoism, Buddhism, and so many more and none of those faiths promotes hate and derision like this individual. We are supposed to be a group of individuals that believe in a higher power. Some are Christian Some are not. We are supposed to respect the views of others. This person does not. I could go on for a long time but I am done now.
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ServantOfJudgement
Thank you for your honest critique Reverend Bobbie, it's greatly appreciated. It lets me know that the sword my Lord gave me is quite sharp and potent.
The insults your friends have issued from the beginning however have not been very polite, not at all. Indeed, they've set the stage and tone but they/you don't like it very much when I return what's been received. I believe my Lord said You will reap what you sow. And so you all are experiencing the harvest.
I'm curious why you didn't complain about Mr Spindler's post(scroll up a little bit) calling for the death of Christians.
You need not answer friend, I already know your reasoning. That question is intended to help you to wake from your slumber.
The world loves a quiet, obedient and submissive Christian that shuts up when told and recoils in shame when antichrists throw scriptures at them, which they do all too often.
For what it's worth Reverend Bobbie, you're not alone. I'm well hated by most here. Kudos to you for speaking your mind and defending Coleen. Paul was however instructed by Jesus The Christ to travel to country that didn't want him and deliver a message that they hated them stoned him for it as Mr. Spindler desires we continue to do.
Mr. Spindler's call for the death of Christians got 7 thumbs up as of now, was one issued by you?
Please do search for the answer to the question I asked of you.
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Rev. BH
Also drop off Coca Cola, Sony transistor radios, Marlboro cigarettes, Nike sneakers, McDonalds burgers, etc. In time the Korubo will be just like us!
Force our beliefs, possessions and desires on the entire world. Sameness is the key to happiness and salvation!. Right?
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ServantOfJudgement
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Rev. BH
SOJ, As usual, an unnecessary extrapolation into unrelated nonsense.
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Melinda Fulk
I've always been against this kind of activity, but Christianity has a long history of "going forth and spreading the gospel". From their viewpoint, it's not just life and death, but a matter of salvation and the saving of souls - which has gotten more things messed up throughout history than it's helped. (But that's another article.) What I'm trying to point out is that while it's both illegal and, I'd argue, unconscionable, from a their viewpoint, it would be unethical, immoral, and wrong NOT to try to save them.
I hope they find out who did it this time, and throw at least a bit of the book at them, but it won't be the end. Some people are too stubborn for learning,
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ServantOfJudgement
Dunno, penicillin has saved billions including you.
Thank God for Christian science.
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Reverend Bobbie
The Christian Church has been instrumental in holding science back since it's inception. You sound like a cold war Russian saying that Russia invented everything. Get real dude.
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ServantOfJudgement
Reverend Bobbie, Christians brought us the theory of gravity, electrical theory, modern medicine and flight to name a few.
Godless science brought us mustard gas, thermonuclear warheads and porn on demand to name a few.
I'm quite real, perhaps too real.
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ServantOfJudgement
My apologies Reverend Bobbie, I forgot you're fairly new and you'll demand sources to ignore once you see I'm right.
The Christian Issac Newton gave us the theory of gravity, the Christian Alexander Flemming gave us penicillin, the Christian Michael Faraday gave us much including the electric motor, the Christian Pieter van Musschenbroek ave us the capacitor which Faraday mastered, the Christian Wright brothers gave us flight of course.
I know it hurts but every character you punch on your device was made possible by Christians, made deliverable by Christians and made producible by Christians. The atheist slaver nation of China shure can build those phones fast though can't they?
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Michael Hunt
Alexander Fleming wasn't particularly religious so I don't know if I'd consider the creation of penicillin to be "Christian Science."
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Let's hope the tribes find and kill these Christian criminals like they done in the past.
Why is it Christians are always break the law and then lie about it?
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ServantOfJudgement
Gol dang is your crowd blood thirsty. Terrifying really. If you antichrists ever get in power us Christians will fill the countryside with bones
You can put it down that the inclusive community is driven by bloodlust and vile putrid hate.
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Donald G Magel
Yep, dem christians are going to spread the bones of all the non christians that they murder and the anti-christ are the bloodthirsty ones! WWJD?
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
As an ordained minister, in the Universal Life Church, (in which I’m also a missionary) in my denomination of the ULC (Secular Humanist Pantheism) we restrict our conversion efforts to those unable to comprehend even the most rudimentary understanding of basic science, we’ve elected, in stead, to wait until the child becomes a high school student, and in the process has studied the science of evolution, before exposing evolutionary sophisticated students to the fact that God, and Nature are the same, both in content, and the use of common sense,
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ServantOfJudgement
Oh how our Lord knows the nature of man and how he will delude himself to believe what he will.
William said "wait until the child becomes a high school student, and in the process has studied the science of evolution, before exposing evolutionary sophisticated students to the fact"
Allow me to paraphrase.
They wait until the student has been sufficiently indoctrinated before he's indoctrinated with the most unbelievable tale of self creation. The meat and potatoes of this religion are mere photographs of meat and potatoes and there at the bottom of the bowl.
And the final "fact" at the end of the quotation, the bottom of the bowl so to speak, is an artist's rendition of meat and potatoes.
Once fully indoctrinated this student may now become a preacher and indoctrinate a new generation with these superstitions and suppositions.
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Stephanie H. Sidman
So, pretty much what you as a Christian believe you must do? Indoctrinate the next generation? Yeah. Spin that back on yourself.
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ServantOfJudgement
Absolutely Stephanie.
Jesus said we must indoctrinate the youth with truth before you indoctrinate them with delusional nonsense.
Isn't it odd how I'm able to see and say that while William is fully oblivious to his own philosophy and actions of indoctrination?
My Lord loves to open eyes, it's quite liberating although sometimes it can be sad.
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Michael Hunt
The difference between the Big Bang Theory and Creationism is that there are observable facts and data to support the theory while Creationism's only evidence is the Bible.
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Daniel Todd Kamm
People have the right to be left alone and to live according to their own beliefs and values. Offering the hope of 'salvation' through christianity or any other means is not appropriate, particularly when people are misled to believe that their own thoughts and prayers (as right wingers like to say) and expressions of such are potentially and permanently "deadly" without the christian messiah.
If I am not mistaken, the son of man encouraged people to keep their spiritual lives personal and at home where these things are most important. He was not the one who said to go out and mess with other people.
Besides, the man was Jewish, so shouldn't that be what is offered, if anything?
We have so few indigenous peoples left who are not being exploited... but that's where the problem starts... send in the missionaries, then send in the people who will destroy their habitats, their ways of life and take every single asset or natural resource they have that could benefit them, and if any survive after disease and the destruction of life-ways... give them drugs, alcohol or whatever to keep them down.
The risks to indigenous folks from modern diseases are great... but... they may have some bugs that have not quite made it out of their isolated habitats too... check the history of certain venereal disease that made it back from the western hemisphere thanks to the early explorers... and here we are stuck with that Kennedy idiot in charge of the county's health... why don't we just introduce a new germ and say "Jesus made me do it....?!"
As for that poor boy who was killed reaching out to a group a few years back? I'm not one for blaming victims. He was young, and apparently his enthusiasm overcame his insight and judgment... including his respect for the law, and his respect for the autonomy of other people. He may have been able to offer a lot through his life had he lived... but we will never know now, will we?
These things are so messy. But whomever was dropping the word covertly into these folks territory? Jail.
Peace Out... Reb tk
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
The only individuals who can claim to have their “own” beliefs — are the ones who got their marching orders directly, in person, from their ineffable God —and most known individuals to claim that they had a verbal exchange with their God, are categorized as “loonie” by their peers and family members.
99,99 % of those claiming that their beliefs are their own; just mean it metaphorically.
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ServantOfJudgement
And so it's true that 99.9996 % of non creationists take their marching orders from a couple men who mathed out auto-creation, you included must believe someone else.
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Alexander Clarke
Believers of the Big Bang Theory. Proof that there is no limit to human ignorance.
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ServantOfJudgement
Then why is everyone telling me a man can be a woman, shall members here be sent to jail for telling me that?
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Rev. BH
SOJ, Everyone is telling you that? Wow.
However, no one should be "sent to jail" for telling you anything. Free speech, right?
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Pastor George Day
Jesus entrusted us with the Great Commission, calling us to proclaim the Gospel to all nations. His return will not occur until every nation and tribe has received the message of the Good News.
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Simply disagree... rex