
Earlier this year, President Trump suspended the United States’ refugee program via executive order, arguing that “the United States lacks the ability to absorb large numbers of migrants, and in particular, refugees.” Now he’s changed his tune, but only for a small group: white Afrikaners from South Africa, who have been granted refugee status to enter the United States.
That decision prompted outrage from immigration advocates, who were left scratching their heads as to why this group in particular were able to jump a line, even as others – including Afghans who assisted the U.S. military in combat – were left in legal limbo.
Among the critics of the decision was the Episcopal Church, who were so outraged by the choice to resettle Afrikaners that they ended their longstanding refugee resettlement partnership with the U.S. government altogether.
A Warm Welcome
Amid this controversy, the first group of resettled Afrikaners arrived in the United States on May 12. The 59 refugees were greeted at Dulles International Airport by deputy homeland security secretary Troy Edgar and deputy secretary of state Christopher Landau.
"Welcome to America," said Landau. "I want you to know that you are really welcome here."
Who Are the Afrikaners?
Afrikaners are a South African ethnic group descended primarily from Dutch settlers who arrived at the Cape of Good Hope in the 17th century, along with smaller numbers of French Huguenots and German immigrants. They speak Afrikaans, a language that evolved from 17th-century Dutch, and developed a distinct culture shaped by frontier life, Calvinist religious beliefs, and a strong emphasis on self-reliance and identity.
Over time, Afrikaners came to dominate South African politics, particularly during the Apartheid era, when their nationalist government enforced a strict system of racial segregation. Though Apartheid ended in the 1990s, its legacy still haunts South Africa; A 2017 audit revealed that 72% of the country’s agricultural land was owned by white landowners (who make up just 7% of the country's population).
This imbalance has resulted in some predictable tensions.
Earlier this year, South African President Cyril Ramaphosa signed a controversial law allowing the government to seize land from landowners if it is "just and equitable and in the public interest" – similar to US eminent domain law.
Recently, President Trump accused the South African government of seizing white landowners’ land and property without compensation, leading to the refugee designation and fast-track to resettlement in America.
Episcopal Church Resettlement Program
For decades, the Episcopal Church has partnered with the U.S. government to resettle refugees arriving to the United States, with federal grants helping to fund the Church's refugee arm, called Episcopal Migration Ministries.
A statement on the Church's website reads:
"We have long supported a robust refugee resettlement program for those who have fled their native countries to escape persecution, oppression, and war. Through The Episcopal Church’s resettlement agency Episcopal Migration Ministries, refugees are resettled to the U.S. and make a new life here with the support of the communities that welcome them."
Partnership Falls Apart
That partnership is now over. Citing moral conflicts, Episcopal Church leadership announced it will no longer work with the U.S. government on refugee resettlement if it is forced to prioritize Afrikaners over other refugees.
To understand this decision requires some context about the Church's background.
The Episcopal Church sits within the global Anglican Communion, a group that counted the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu among its leaders. Tutu was an anti-apartheid hero in South Africa, and later chaired the Truth and Reconciliation Commission to investigate human rights abuses and racially-motivated crimes that happened under apartheid.
The Church Responds
“In light of our church’s steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, we are not able to take this step [of resettling Afrikaners],” wrote the presiding bishop of the church, the Most Rev. Sean W. Rowe.
“Accordingly, we have determined that, by the end of the federal fiscal year, we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government.”
Rowe says that the Episcopal Church’s refugee program will be shuttered by September – a remarkable end to a government partnership which has lasted decades.
Rowe also stressed frustrations over the preferential treatment given to the Afrikaners, writing “It has been painful to watch one group of refugees, selected in a highly unusual manner, receive preferential treatment over many others who have been waiting in refugee camps or dangerous conditions for years.”
Administration Defends Its Stance
The Trump administration contends that Afrikaners are exactly the sort of people the refugee system was designed to help.
White House spokesperson Anna Kelly said the “Afrikaners have faced unspeakable horrors,” alleging that they’re “no less deserving of refugee resettlement than the hundreds of thousands of others who were allowed into the United States during the past Administration.”
“What’s happening in South Africa fits the textbook definition of why the refugee program was created,” said White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller. “This is persecution based on a protected characteristic – in this case, race. This is race-based persecution.”
It’s believed that this handful of Afrikaners are the only refugees who have been formally resettled in the United States since President Trump took office – and given that the Trump Administration fast-tracked them, they likely jumped the line over hundreds of thousands of others.
When asked why the Afrikaners were moved to the front of the line, deputy secretary of state Landau noted that "they could be assimilated easily into our country."
What is your reaction? Was the Episcopal Church’s response justified?
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It makes no difference church(denomination) are individual if you hate(is another word for murder) or dislike someone bad enough you will do anything to try and disrrupt his agenda. It seems many functions calling themselves churches need to go back and take another look at what the church should be doing as Jesus once said give unto Caesar and give unto God what is his; never once saying to riot are burn are go against the government. and then he told us to pray for our leaders not quarrel with them he even tells us to be careful and be watchful for the enemy is looking for a place to reside. The church isn't that building it is you and you are temple of the Holy Ghost are have we forgot. Many think they are fruit pickers (judges) and he caution us that the real judge would be fair.The end is near and what I read its not that good as many think it to be, especially when he says I never knew you. I think there needs to be a paradigm shift with our thinking about what the word of God truly tells us to do to be ready. As Always Be Blessed!!
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The south africans farmers being allowed to enter th US are farmers who are being killed because of their resitance to the South African government.
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This is the sort of thing only one group of white nationalists can do for another.
In high school we had a white South African exchange student, who enrolled in the student exchange program to avoid military service... ok.. fine... do what you need to do.
But while he was here... his attitudes towards people of colour...? I remember him talking with a young lady at a dance , and when she asked him to dance, he responded that he wouldn't dance with her because she was "black."
True story.
Later in college, early to mid 80's , I was involved in our local anti-apartheid "coalition" and as a result of these activities I found myself attending to more of that and less of "the other" aka my studies. Which eventually had its consequences.
In another funny turn, the campus Anti-Apartheid movement was initiated by the campus Gay-Lesbian Alliance, the campus "Film Society" and other not so peopled by people of colour student groups.
With a little blackmail as to why the United Black Association refused to take a lead, or even engage (mostly because at the time they were embarrassed by associating with Queers and the fact that Queers had taken the lead) we finally had a "campus coalition" of sorts.
Some rallies and fliers and whatever. Typical student activism. Until....
I was able to secure a binder from (an anonymous source) with the university's investment portfolio (public info anyway) and I made arrangements with an employer to use our copying "facilities."
And I made lots and lots and lots and lots of copies (front and back thank you) of same, with all of the university's investments in companies invested in South Africa highlighted with (thank you) yellow highlighters.
Which we passed out on the university's most prominent site of student activism and other events.
And there was such a thing... and the black student groups, then forced to the front, finally took over and led efforts to lead the university to divest from many of it's South African - related investments.
My personal payback was being "black-balled" none of my professors would meet with me about my studies, I received a letter placing me on academic suspension... and I transferred to another college that was happy to find an advocate for people whose lives and circumstances are barred by ... well the same apartheid we struggled against back then.
Forty years later... I continue to work with people no one wants to deal with....
The long and the short of this story is that I support The Episcopal Church in rescinding its agreements with the government. The government has rescinded its social contract with its peoples, twists the Constitution into the unrecognizable , and in this current subject, is offering preferred status to a bunch of white people who less than 30 years ago had administered one of the most racist, classist, and homophobic societies on the planet.
Which is why the South African Constitution provides protections an the right of petition for all of these classes and more.
I don't think there is any reason to admit these people as people who are at risk in their home country. I don't think there is any basis for Donald Trumps assertions that these are people being deprived of life or liberty, or at risk of persecution...
I do think they all need a background check for business and other ties, such as a blood test to determine where they fall in the lines of people related to Mr. Elon Musk, who, after all....
I am cautious of the right wing churches providing relocation services to places like Iowa... interesting choice of relocation... one of our most prominent presidential primary states....
Figure it out people....!
Peace out, and this is one "Back to Africa" movement that needs to happen....
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I can not!! find where any love is be given. Only hate and bitterness towards the POTUS and ELON . Thinking these people need to be vetted, blood tested, and never asking the people that are here illegally need to be vetted blood tested and any other hateful remarks that some would like to spew out on the people of the world. Foolishness being entertained with the help of this earth(devil) little god. We really need a paradigm shift in our thinking. Hoping that we haven't sunk so low that there may not be anyway out of the codition which I see our nation and so called beleivers. This is really scary to hear someone profess to be a beleiver and will bad mouth the POTUS when there's no place in the word of God that encourages that. It simply tells us we are to PRAY for our leaders not bad mouth, curse, hate or gossip but PRAY. But its still a choice knowing Jesus has already warned us that in the end He may say I never KNEW YOU so for all of us don't be stubborn and think that we are getting by. As Always Be Blessed!!
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Do y'all wanna know how to stop racism...
STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!!!
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Amen!! Quit looking at everybody else as though they are the problem; most of the time it starts with you!
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Muskox is technically one of those, but he is rich, so this plays right into Rumpsters "all white" idealogy. I am disgusted with the whole thing!!!! If anyone deserves to burn in hell, it is him!!
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Like Elon Musk those 59 "White" South Africans CHOSE to come to the U.S.A. because they didn't want to live in a nation where Black People are equal under the law to them and make up the majority of the population. They like Elon Musk wanted to live in the U.S.A. where if you are "White" you are alright but if you ARE NOT "White" you are NOT ALRIGHT. Amen?
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Yep. It had nothing to do with the fact that they were being targeted (and in many cases killed) because of their whiteness..
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"All born will taste death." (Quran 21:35) Those who were killed "because of their whiteness" would have eventually died some other way for some other reason if they had not been killed "because of their whiteness." And those who killed them "because of their whiteness" will die too because they were born. What is your problem? Do you have a problem?
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Oh no, not just White... RICH and white. Nobody seems to remember they paid their way in. Oh, might as well throw in stupid because they seem to believe they are being attacked there without actual proof.
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Those 50 people followed the laws to come into the country legally. They are not MILLIONS who never applied legally, but instead came here ILLEGALLY. Those 50 people are not expecting the US taxpayers to provide them housing, food, phone, medical care.
It is not a race issue even though the media tries to make it that. It is a question of doing so legally and not living off the taxpayers.-
Trump is nothing but a white supremacist.
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Would a white supremacist “ever” choose anyone of color? I think not.
He chose Scott Turner, who is Black, for Housing and Urban Development and Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer (R-Ore.), who is Hispanic, for Labor. Trump also had Black and Latino secretaries in those roles during his first term.
Trump also “made history” by choosing Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, as the first-ever Hispanic secretary of State. Rubio replaces Alberto Gonzales as the highest-ranking Latino in the nation’s history. Gonzales said he was pleased to see Trump bring more Hispanics into the “big four” roles — State, Treasury, Justice and Defense.
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Please I guess anybody can call themselves minister. But if we really want to show people what is needed it want be more of what has been going on. Again we need to be more careful of what comes out of our thoughts words and deeds instead we should reflect LIFE not death.Where is the love peace and joy for each other? Instead it is so much easier to walk with the god of this earth. Who enjoys when we get caught up in hate, bitterness, selfishness and pride it really makes him look good. is that who we really want to please? Be Blessed!!
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Bull. Nothing legal or normal about it. This makes your white supremacist nerves dance, doesn't it?
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When I see disrespectful comments it always indicates a complete intellectual loss in a discussion. Sir Steven Ferrell makes some very interesting points that you might want to at least consider in your rebuttal.
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Again Amen!!!
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The Afrikaner's are legal admitted immigrants. They didn't sneak across the border illegally under the cover of a corrupt regime. These individuals will be better off not being "resettled" by some liberal prop of an organization that decides who they can pick and choose to help.
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These Afrikaners are legally fast-track refugees. Legitimate refugees are being denied entry into the US since the Trump Administration claimed the US couldn't accept any more refugees. I recommend you read beyond the sensationalist headlines and learn what it means to be a refugee and how you may enter the US and be processed appropriately. Perhaps you will then understand how this is mere political posturing and theater, enabling the Trump Administration to broadcast it's white supremacist ideology to its poorly-educated base.
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I sorry but your missing a very important FACT the white South Africans as you put it went to the American consulate in Johannesburg and asked for asylum from being killed by Black South Africans because they are White and the U.S. government granted them asylum. The difference is they did it the way it’s supposed to happen not by illegally crossing the border and then asking for asylum. They committed a crime when they crossed the border illegally. The immigrant's of the past first came into America by way of ships and stayed on Ellis Island while doing paperwork and being able to stay in the country. There is a huge difference between asking permission and illegally entering the country. The United States has had the immigration laws since the beginning of the country and every President has deported people that entered the USA illegally until the Biden administration that only did it to get votes. So this is NOT A TRUMP thing at all. Even though I don’t like the guy myself I clearly understand what’s going on and it has everything to do with the laws of this country and the proper procedures for immigration
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Yes, their response is justified.
Thousands of Sudanese children are starving, dying of disease, or being raped and/or murdered as we speak, and Trump had USAID cut off, effectively tossing them into the garbage disposal.
This administration is a vile, monstrous abomination, unclean beyond measure.
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No it is not justified. Youve just put politics before people. The Sudanese have been doing this for centuries for one, for the second the aid money that was being sent to them was never being used for the designated purpose. You're so full of hatred for that man you are becoming a hypocrite.
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This board is nothing but an anti - President Trump and anti - White hate group! You are all allegedly Christian on here and besides myself and maybe 1 or 2 other people on here you all have spewed nothing but Lies, Hatred and Evil all stemming from total ignorance! I am so glad that all religions are total bs because I would hate to believe that people who spew this kind of hatred for victims just because they are white and are actually in danger and in need of asylum would still get rewarded with heaven in the end - I bet none of you complained when the illegitimate muslim Obama immediately moved a bunch of terrorists in to our country but scream bloody murder because a bunch of white people being butchered by blacks in South Africa are brought in - totally pathetic and the Trump hatred? Childish and ridiculous - you should all be embarrassed but unfortunately you all have tds from the mass psy-op called main stream media!
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It's interesting how the whites are nearing extinction because of what's being done to them but when it was the other way around that wasn't taking place to the non-whites. The fact is if whites had never settled in that area most of the bantu people (who originated from central Africa) would've long since died out.
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I applaud the Episcopal Church for taking this public stand. If anyone doubted the “Whites Only” philosophy of the Trump/Republican immigration policy, here’s an excellent example of Pay-Attention-to-What-They-Do. Thank you, Stephen Miller and Donald Trump, for clarifying your lack of understanding of the message of the Gospels and lack of Christian compassion for those in need who don’t happen to be White.
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I can understand the Episcopalian Church’s response to this. It's telling that the tRump admin prioritizes granting asylum to white South Africans fleeing alleged persecution, while simultaneously deporting Andre Hernandez Romero—an openly gay man who was here legally and sought refuge from violence in El Salvador. Arrested and sent back to face potential death in a gang prison. Is it simply skin color and sexual orientation that dictate one's worthiness to seek safety?
And then there's Kristi Noem, casually dismissing the very real risk of violence Andre faces by stating, “it’s not my problem if he is killed.” The administration's selective compassion is evident: white lives matter, while LGBTQ and people of color don’t.
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But you don't understand...these white people's PROPERTY is being threatened! That's financial. You can't possibly conceive of the horror!
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Ari, I don’t doubt that these people are experiencing financial hardship, nor do I doubt that their lives were in danger. I am not against them being granted asylum. I am dismayed that the same consideration is not being given to other endangered immigrants who are in the same or worse situation, like the man I mentioned earlier. He will most likely lose his life.
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It's telling that the tRump admin prioritizes granting asylum to white South Africans fleeing alleged persecution, while simultaneously deporting Andre Hernandez Romero—an openly gay man who was here legally and sought refuge from violence in El Salvador. Arrested and sent back to face potential death in a gang prison. Is it simply skin color and sexual orientation that dictate one's worthiness to seek safety?
And then there's Kristi Noem, casually dismissing the very real risk of violence Andre faces by stating, “it’s not my problem if he is killed.” The administration's selective compassion is evident: white lives matter, while LGBTQ and people of color don’t.
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Please get well. It might take you 2 or 3 years, but I’m confident you can do it..🤗
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Get well from what, LH? As far as I can tell based on his comments, James isn't struggling from any illness or injury. Are you accusing him of being unwell for making factual statements?
It's again clear that you can't take any stance on merit so you're resorting to name-calling and bullying, another conservative tactic to hide the fact that they're full of BS.
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TDS is proving to be a problem with so many, but there really is hope. If we can live through the years of the Biden-Harris administration most should be able to deal with TDS.
Are you struggling with it also? Just asking for a friend of mine, but he’s in recovery as he’s starting to see an improvement in the economy, and with illegal immigration almost at a standstill, and also with many being repatriated from where they came from, he’s starting to see hope. It’s going to be slow from the damage that’s been caused, but we are on the right track….at last. Thank you for your question. 🤗
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So, I’m ill because I care about everyone’s rights, including yours. I guess you’re healthy because you only care about what happens to you and those who hold with your ideal. I hope you’re right thinking everything is going to get better. I really do, but so far, I’m not impressed. I’ll I’ve heard are empty promises and have yet to see results. I will give credit when and where it is deserved.
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It’s early days, but just hang in there. I’m really hopeful that it can’t be worse than the last 4 years. Thank you for being concerned about my welfare. I think the majority of the country were also getting very concerned about how things were going for everyone, as did I, so I’m sure that’s why they voted in favor of major change last Nov 5th.
Don’t expect rapid results, it’s going to take time to undo the financial mess we got into, but I’m sure we will see more financial results as the months roll by. At least the illegal immigration has almost been stopped, and many are being returned from whence they came, so that should help us financially as well.
I’m wondering if we’ll be able to send as many illegals back from where they came from that Obama and Clinton did being as many Democrats are trying to prevent their return, which they didn’t do under those previous Democrat administrations. It’s weird how they didn’t object back then, wanting due process…..right?
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TDS is certainly alive and well on this forum. Huh?
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Their angst, suffering with TDS, knows no bounds. They must be dreading President Trump doing well for the nation. They of course think that won’t happen, and it’s possible their hubris won’t allow them to give credit where credit is due, but when it does we can help them through it. 🤗
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Yes, they will probably need guidance to negotiate the real world when they finally awaken. 😉
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You're projecting your view of Democrats onto liberals' views of Trump.
I would love to be wrong about Trump and his administration. I don't hate America, despite what conservative media would tell you about someone on the left. I want to see everyone in our country succeed.
Conservatives are the ones who time and time again cannot accept that a Democrat president is doing a good job. Conservative media loves to talk about how disastrous the Biden economy was, ignoring the fact that inflation was up globally due to a pandemic that crippled supply chains and completely denying the fact that the US under Biden was seeing the rate of inflation drop faster than the rest of our global peers.
Instead, they elected, again, a celebrity tv show host who has bankrupted casinos and was convicted for financial fraud spanning over a decade to be the president because they believed he and his tariffs would be better for our economy. He's not a successful businessman or entrepreneur, he's a trust fund baby who nearly collapsed his father's real estate empire before he became the host of The Apprentice, saving him financially.
I really hope Trump ends up doing great things for our economy but every reputable economist has been saying for months now that what he is doing will cause more harm to the economy than good and we're about to see the impacts of his tariffs very soon so keep an eye on inflation these next few months as his tariffs take effect and companies start charging customers more to make up for them.
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I totally understand your concern, and I realise your view of our President is common among so many on the left. We now have over 3 1/2 years you see if he can pull us through the inflation under Biden. I’m sure some of the inflation could have been the result of Covid, which should have been a huge trigger to ensure any future monies were spent wisely, but that didn’t seem to be the case. He carried on spending at a ridiculous rate, money that we just didn’t have. Spending on illegal immigrants obviously didn’t help either. DOGE has also uncovered more spending that has gone unchecked, for possibly many years.
Let’s all hope this administration can get us back on track with the nations finances.
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Great talking point, wow!
But you’ll never convince people that are simply here to debate their insanity against any truth offered them.
They, simply like their Lord and Savior Donald Quack, cannot conceive of anything that doesn’t praise them in someway. Even, if it’s a lie!
Occultism is a blind obedience to mystical stupidity and Hitler’s Germany was living proof of that. However, they recovered; and by the grace of a justice; and merciful God so shall we…
There is no past event more prevalent then now! Forget Biden, forget Harris! This crisis, is the making of this 2025 administration and nothing else.
A lawless uncontrollable Republican Party lead by a godless man. Who spews out hateful lies, and rhetoric in almost every breath. Whether MAGA wants to acknowledge this or not! It doesn’t matter! The whole world knows it Now!
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Humanity Begins at Home
It is amazing to me, that someone could compare the so-called saving of white refugees from a land that they ruled with apartheid madness. Now they need to flee from a country where they predominantly still rule at least eighty percent of that territory.
If they are so desperate for liberation, why not go back to the Dutch country they originated from, before they came to enslave these people and steal their land? It’s quite simple, go home! We know for a fact, that their lives won’t be in many cases endangered there.
This migration thing of the well off isn’t new! When the well to do Cubans lost power over Cuba, they too came running to America. The Irish being sent back to Ireland (if that’s where they’re being deported), are not going back to face prison, or death camps, as far as it’s been reported.
Where does this madness stop, my God! Trump nor his cronies aren’t worried about the millions of Russian in this country, that have attempted to interfere with our elections; nor the many Chinese who also commit crimes. I wonder why?
And if you don’t believe the Russian Mafia exist, just visit area in Brooklyn , New York called, Coney Island; or the Chinese crime circles about China Town and around Confucius Square; try Bensonhurst and ask some Italian about the Mafia. They’ve existed for a century and more and even into the nineties were spilling blood on the streets of America, let’s not forget get the home grown groups like, The Hell’s Angels but no one wants to deport those characters. I wonder why?
New immigrants have always brought crime with them. It’s not new, but never has it been so blatantly laid down as it has been against a group of people who complexion is not opaque. But, what is quietly kept is that MAGA nuts have investments with many of these people that they aren’t concerned with deporting and often with some of their countries. Please fact check that!
A church faith, finally acknowledging that this movement of false humanitarian services will not be recognized by them, is a breath of fresh air!
Especially, in a toxic governmental institution such as we have to date. I know charities are wonderful things to extend to our fellow human beings. But, if it is to be so encouraged, let it be done fairly distributed to all human beings, and let it begin first at home.
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I have been watching the South African politics for over a half a century, and, ever since the power shift went from white to black. There has been more violence by blacks on white victims. Some news media have reported in the past, violence against white farmers, rapes, stolen lands, homeless whites, etc…. Times have radically changed. The pendulum has swung in the other direction. There is no white power anymore. The white Afrikaners need a safe place to live, because South Africa is going to make them extinct.
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To say "there is no white power anymore" is to ignore that fact that the vast majority (over 70%) of land in South Africa is held by whites, and the majority of businesses in SA are majority white-owned. Lacking political power AS WELL AS financial power comes no where near justifying the claim that "there is no white power anymore." There is no "genocide" against Afrikaners, and there is no chance of them becoming "extinct." Contrast this with Palestinians in Gaza who are being bombed and slaughtered daily by Israel: where are the expedited refugee statuses for them? It's not about providing a refuge from persecution. The Trump Administration is using Afrikaans as a prop to prove its white supremacist credentials.
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It's interesting how the whites are nearing extinction because of what's being done to them but when it was the other way around that wasn't taking place to the non-whites. The fact is if whites had never settled in that area most of the bantu people (who originated from central Africa) would've long since died out.
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What "extinction"? They are Europeans. There are hundreds of millions of Europeans in the world.
As for your claim about the Bantu, you have no ability to verify your claim, so it is irrelevant. The reality, however, supported by evidence, is that the Afrikaans murdered tens of thousands of Africans during their minority rule of SA. They are fortunate that once apartheid was destroyed they weren't all systematically slaughtered for the evil they perpetrated. The cry-babies running to America "for protection" simply can't bear to be in a situation where the rabbit now has the gun.
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Just another show of how how uneducated the 🍊🤡 and his minions are. Typical of this so called administration. Fortunately the 🍊🤡 and his ilk will be gone in just a little over 3 years!
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Yes, and after their success getting the USA back on its financial feet after the lefts disastrous term of spending money like water, much of it on illegal aliens, I’m sure we can have at least another 4 year term after this one. After all, this is what the majority of citizens wanted. That’s the beauty of democracy…right?
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The majority of citizens didn't vote for this administration. Roughly 66% of voters actually voted and Trump received about half of those votes. So basically a third of voters wanted this. Republicans win when people are convinced their vote doesn't count so they stay home. That is shameful.
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I’m confident that those who sat on the fence not knowing which way to vote, or to vote at all, will be delighted with the eventual outcome of this administrations efforts to send back illegal immigrants, no tax on tips, Social Security, etc., and the way our economy will look in 3.5 years time, compared with how it was left under Biden.
If all this bears fruit, plus the possibility of no tax for those earning under $200K, it could signal the end of the Democrat party as we currently know it who have no party mandates apart from keep pushing woke ideologies, and hate for our nations president. They are solely relying on the failure of this current administration to boost their ratings. If that doesn’t happen they basically have nothing left. The Democrat party seems to be just wandering around with absolutely no leadership whatsoever. Possibly you see it different? 🤷
Thank you for your comment.
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At best Trump is just the lesser of the two evil. The American people will be the losers no matter what.
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Time will tell. Thank you for your opinion.
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Ha ha, President Vance sends hugs and kisses !!
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Mascara wearing Vance that is.
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He just keeps showing us who he is. An evil, bigoted, over grown child- who now has ultimate power. His supporters love him, which shows us exactly who they are- easily lead sheep… But evil sheep. 🙂
These are the same people who got upset because a priest told them to be kind and compassionate to their fellow human beings… And they got SUPER mad about it. Honestly, that ended any conversation I could ever have with these people.
You can’t save em all I guess. 🍃
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Oh yes, were evil sheep, mindless creatures actually who agree with everything that's wrong, if only the whole world were homosexual then we could all live in peace
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The Episcopalian Church is acting within their scope of compassion. There is no need to bring in white “refugees” when actual refugees are left out in dangerous conditions. White people are privileged; everyone else is ignored. The current administration desperately wants to keep white people in control of society, so they will bring in any white people they can find to keep the status quo. The orange moron is a pathetic excuse for a human and doesn’t deserve to breathe free air.
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You are so right Paula, these "refugees" are former or descendants of former Apartheid, which is nothing more than the South African version of the KKK.
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REV. COPP, AMEN I SAY TO YOU, SoB, I MEAN SoJ YOUR A FOLLOWER of IGNORANCE and EVIL, THAT IS TURD tRUMP HE CAME OUT of HITLERS ARSE...........
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The republicans have always accused the democrats of wanting to “replace” white people with brown or black people who they believe would vote for democrats. They called it “Replacement Theory”. Now they are using the exact same arguments but in reverse. The new republican “Replacement Theory”.
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Right, 20 million illegals given the right to vote, a free apartment, food, transportation and cell phones would never vote for the party keeping them in luxury, not ever. The 20 million living off the breast of the taxpayers always vote republican. Always.
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SoJ, no illegal aliens were allowed ANY of the things you claim. They especially don’t have the right to vote, and shame on whoever brainwashed you with their lies! There are only 11million illegal immigrants, and they have not been given free anything. No cell phones, no appointments, no free food and certainly not transportation or social services… to think otherwise is pure ignorance.
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I meant “apartments.”
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Zero illegal aliens have the right to vote in federal elections. Some states have, I believe, allowed non-citizens to vote in local elections that affect their immediate communities, like school boards, but it's a flat out lie that Democrats are bringing in illegal immigrants and giving them voting rights in order to keep power.
Meanwhile, Republicans are cutting taxes for the wealthiest of the wealthy, cutting funding to medicaid and social security, eliminating departments of government that provide oversight and regulation for things like air and water quality, and the people who will be hurt by this the most will be the poorest and most vulnerable population in our country.
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Please cite your sources SoJ, because the facts say otherwise and you wish to disprove these facts, you need to prove it.
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If you can't see the writing on the Walls you're blind. God help you, your family is next.
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Trump upping the percentage of non white college grads coming to the U.S. to take good-paying jobs away from otherwise recent American grads is pretty much the same thing except it's helping the middle class from these countries instead of the poor ones. With either candidate it's not best for America.
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Obviously biased toward white folks tRump shows his racism again. And also obviously his cult followers will defend him and except it.
I support the Episcopalian church.
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How very antichrist of you Christian.
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The Episcopalian Church is wrong about this.
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Of course the Trump administration is fine with "refugees" when they're white but actual refugees who are people of color are demonized and attacked. Disgusting show of racism.
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That's why Irish illegals are getting deported..... because um, well, umhm, you see the Irish are um well,....TRUMP IS RACIST!
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This has nothing to do with illegal immigration and has to do with refugee status. There are thousands of people with legitimate claims for refugee status who continue to wait and wait for approval while affluent Afrikaners get sent to the front of the line. Come on, SOJ.
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For the first time, I agree with you, SoJ. I recognize the sarcasm, but this time your sarcasm is actually the truth. Good job.
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Yes, Trump would never marry a foreigner of a different race. 🤭
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Melania is Slovenian which is a South Slavic ethnic group who are generally apart of the white racial category... and his previous wives were also white... so Trump hasn't married anyone of a different race... are you smelling burnt toast by any chance, Lyinheart?
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Ohhh, I see you are under the impression that a “race” has to be only people with a different coloured skin.
Here’s a definition for you that might help you to understand: Race refers to the social construction and categorization of people based on perceived shared physical traits that result in the maintenance of a sociopolitical hierarchy. Some physical traits can be hair texture, or shape of their eyes etc,. It doesn’t have to be solely on skin color.
I hope this helps you to understand.
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So you're playing semantics to cover for Trump's racism? This discussion stems from race based off skin color, not hair texture or eye shape. Why are affluent, white Afrikaners getting refugee status while Afghans who helped our military in the Middle East are being denied?
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Oh God here you go again. Flailing like a TDS Top.
Take a look at what TDS did to george lopez and rosie o'donnell. It destroys the mind, the body and the soul.
Put down the soy latte and get on a heavy dose of ivermectin.
Then wrap yourself in the Constitution of the United States of America for a week while listeninh to YMCA, and your TDS may go into remission No guarantees, though, I think you've got it pretty bad.
We'll know if you stop posting mindless, baseless, ignorant tripe.
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I’m sorry you don’t want to understand the definition of race because it goes against your biased narrative, and also your hate for this presidency.
Don’t forget that it was Joe Biden that caused the catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan 4 years ago leaving some of our military dead, leaving equipment behind, and didn’t provide refugee status for many of those Afghans that helped our military.
I wonder if you are one of those people that thinks Joe Biden was actually running this country for the last previous four years in totally good physical and mental health. 🤭
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Lionheart, to your typical American, there are 3 races: Negroid, Mongoloid, and Caucasoid and Trump has stated his preference for white(Caucasoid is too big a word for him) and regardless of what you posted, you know that Michael meant this.
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You are almost right, Sir Matthew. Anthropology 101, will tell you there are 5 major races, The three you mentioned, plus Australoid, and Amerindian. I doubt Michael knew that, but he could have done.
To the average Joe most think there are only two races, black, and white, but within some anthropological studies some will say there are as many as up to 60 races on our planet.
I notice Dem’s are seriously grasping at straws trying to find anything they can on our President in a very desperate attempt to try and save their flailing party. It’s basically all they can do, because everything else seems to have failed them. TDS seems to have totally taken over their ability to think intelligently.
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Exactly 💯%. Helping good quality refugees regardless of their ethnicity is a good thing and that includes helping the Afrikaners.
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I agree trump is a service for Satan.
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He is the anti-Christ and he has been chosen by christian right folks as their chosen one! Our Nation is in deep stuff. Thoughts and prayers will not save us from Ttump!.
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The same could be said of Biden as well. That's why I don't buy into the false Left Right paradigm. Trump's tariffs are gonna destroy this country just like the open border policy of Kamala would've.
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You people on the left are always about race. And of course you're on the left, your comment, proves it. I can almost guarantee you come down on the side of men in women's sports. Why don't you take the words of a black man who said something about character versus color and then apply that people being let in. If your moral compass knew which way was north, I'll guarantee you, you would agree with Trump over Biden. A decent, hard-working farmer, caring for his family is a 100% different then a violent gang member whose main purpose to come here is to rape and pillage. You guys always align with criminals. Give you a hint. If you got a gang tattoo on your face, there's a good chance you're not here to grow turnips. Not to mention the.SA are being vetted and brought in legally, and anybody that doesn't think that there's an ethnic cleansing going on in South Africa, ramping up to what's happening in Palestine, is out of touch.
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I have never seen so many fake Christians in one spot as i have in this comment section. You hating on trump for bringing in the SA refugees is just amazing. Everyone of you complaining its racist had better look into who is being deported. ILLEGALS. Not any of the legal immigrants are being deported regardless of color. You spend so much time spewing hate and propaganda it is disgusting. Have any of you been to south Africa? Guatemala, Honduras? Probably not, but you're sure acting like experts when all you know is what the propaganda spewing MSM and the other party says and you're to dense to go look into deeper. You're all the perfect example of hypocrites and pathetic . Do not call yourselves believers just stay with calling yourselves religious Pharisees.END OF.
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I think the Episcopal Church is absolutely right for what they did. I think they do not want to be a part of the treachery and lies. It's not right that certain white people are given special privileges. You either do right by everybody or nobody.
Reat comment but you are way off the mark. Of the 20 million or so illegal immigrants here is the racial break down. It is estimated that 6% of illegal immigrants in the US are white. The majority of the other illegal immigrants around 70% Hispanic and are followed by 17% Asian and 6% Black. So your claim is bogus. Besides I don't care what their color is but that these folks broke and entered into our nation by illegal means and need to be deported.