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 Believers around the world are sharply divided on the idea of wearing masks to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

The message from public health officials is clear: wear a mask to help protect yourself and others from coronavirus.

But not everyone is on board – particularly some members of the faith community. More and more, people are citing their faith as a reason why they shouldn’t have to wear a mask. We recently wrote about Ohio State Rep. Nino Vitale's argument that faces are the “likeness of God”, and that it is therefore immoral to cover them. His claim was roundly criticized, but recent public hearings show that this idea does indeed resonate with many Americans. 

Because face-covering policies are instituted primarily at the local level, city council meetings across the U.S. have been ground zero for the backlash against mask-wearing. Take Palm Beach County in Florida as an example. They county made wearing masks in public mandatory, and many residents weren't having it:

One woman threatened that city council members would face retribution for their mask policy. "Every single one of you who are obeying the devil's laws are going to be arrested," she asserted. Another community member stepped to the microphone and told the assembly that the city council "wants to throw God's wonderful breathing system out the door." 

Churches across the country have been pressuring government officials to let them stay open and continue offering in-person services – sometimes with disastrous consequences. But it seems the lesson that coronavirus poses a real threat has not yet been fully learned, even by those in leadership positions.

A Papal Scolding

Pope Francis gave some of his strongest words yet for religious leaders who defy safety measures during the coronavirus pandemic, likening those who resist life-saving measures like wearing masks to “adolescents”.

The remarks were made at the Vatican on Sunday, June 21st, to an audience of frontline workers from a region of Italy hard-hit by coronavirus. He praised their heroic service and sacrifice in the midst of the pandemic, and also praised church leaders for their “creativity” in servicing their flock digitally.

“They were fathers, not adolescents,” the pontiff said, then later said there was an “adolescent resistance” by many priests to close church doors during the pandemic - despite the fact that churches have repeatedly been hotspots for outbreaks. 

How Masks Became Political

Even though Pope Francis’ words were delivered to a small group of healthcare workers from Northern Italy, they’re relevant worldwide, particularly in America where safety measures like wearing masks and social distancing have been politicized. There are hundreds of videos online of individuals entering buildings without masks, defying public health mandates and putting essential workers and other patrons at risk.

“The mask has become the ultimate symbol of [the] new cultural and political divide,” said a Politico piece published last month. “For progressives, masks have become a sign that you take the pandemic seriously and are willing to make a personal sacrifice to save lives… On the right, the mask is often seen as the symbol of a purported overreaction to the coronavirus.”

Would Jesus Wear a Mask?

How would Jesus respond to the pandemic? Some argue that refusing to wear a mask defies the Golden Rule that underpins many Christian teachings: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Pastor Kate Murphy took this idea and penned an op-ed asserting that Jesus himself would wear a mask.

“The bottom line for Christians is this: Even if you believe that the fear surrounding COVID-19 is not justified, that fear is still real. And Jesus didn’t insult or belittle people who were afraid. He went out of his way to come alongside them. Jesus went out of his way to show — in his flesh — that their lives mattered to him… Wearing a mask is a practical way to show that you love your neighbor, to lift the burden of someone who is afraid instead of adding to it.”

Pope Francis likely agrees. In his remarks he said that “God created us for communion, for fraternity, and now more than ever the pretense of betting only on one’s self has proven illusory. It’s illusory to make individualism the guiding principle of society.”

What do you think? Is there any religious justification for refusing to wear a mask, or are such claims just a convenient cover to defend arrogance and selfishness?

231 comments

  1. Blendena's Avatar Blendena

    Wearing a mask to protect others and self is not against anything that God or Jesus stated in the Bible.

    It is no different than wearing a seat belt, putting your child in a safe car seat!

    I believe Jesus did what he could while he was here on earth to protect us and still does today, but one cannot fight a virus that does not believe in God. So, wear your masks!

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      How in the world can a virus "believe in God"? What does god have to do with this? Its a virus, not a human. Furthermore, Jesus is doing a terrible job protecting us. Hmm, worldwide starvation, racism and hatred, pedophilia, criminals, thieves, liars, etc. Yes we must wear masks to protect others, just like Jesus said, "Treat thy neighbor as thyself"

      1. arawngraalrd's Avatar arawngraalrd

        We do not rely on Jesus, to protect us, but on Government, and Fauki, an agent of Government, is suspected of developing this virus. Worse, the things we do to "flatten the curve," are all meant to isolate the elderly, curtail their exercise, and otherwise diminish the burden of Social Security and other pensions. Elderly are there for the young to learn from, and City doesn't produce sufficient Young. I would be happier knowing I'd weathered this plague, but most do so without enough symptoms to be tested for infection.

        1. Walter Guerry Green III's Avatar Walter Guerry Green III

          I am elderly, and I want to live to be very elderly. I have a number of medical problems, any one of which greatly increases my vulnerability to COVIS-19 and the certainty of a fatal outcome if I am infected. When you intrude on my social distance, lecture me for sheltering in place (which I continue to do), cough on me, and don't wear a mask, my immediate reaction is that you are deliberately trying to murder me. If anyone claims to be a Biblical Christian they should be at least aware that there is a commandment against killing. So why are Christians so brainlessly intent on my death? Could it be that they are the agents of Satan, not in disguise, but in the illogical and heretical interpretation of their own religion?

          1. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

            Such people are selfish and unthinking. Their actions ought to be seen as a deliberate attempt upon your life and treated under law as such.

            1. Nathan Warren Driscoll's Avatar Nathan Warren Driscoll

              You are right on point. it is one thing to act carelessly with your own well being but quit another when it involves others.

        2. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

          That is totally insane. Who in the world is that brain damaged to believe a conspiracy of Dr Fauci developing COVID 19? Good Lawdy. Not I've heard everything. LMAO.

          1. Jean Bakula's Avatar Jean Bakula

            Quite a few people are spouting these conspiracy theories. Trump's R cronies won't wear masks. I sat in the house social distancing in NJ for 3 months, going out only for food and medication. I live alone and had no help. Now I had neighbors who had a large party this weekend, with nobody wearing masks. Hundreds of people in NJ are still being admitted into the hospital. Maybe it has to kill someone in their family before they believe this virus is real. Even Fox News is advocating masks now. I am sick of religious people trying to advocate law in the U.S. This is a secular country.

        3. Amy Varela's Avatar Amy Varela

          SO you would prefer that the elderly are not isolated, but out in the midst of the virus? That is the message I got from your comment. Whether or not the government created the virus (a ridiculous claim, by the way), it is real and the elderly are not the only ones who are at risk of death. Decent human beings, regardless of whether they believe the God Myth, wear masks and keep physically distanced from others. Selfish, ignorant, and/or stupid people do not.

          I wish the virus could target the horrible people, but it doesn't.

      2. Tamara Deines's Avatar Tamara Deines

        Down here in El Paso Texas my family where's a mask Everytime we leave the house. It's foolish to not wear one. I believe God put the idea to have all of us protect ourselves and others

    2. Adele Louise Nieto's Avatar Adele Louise Nieto

      How does anyone person know the true Will of God? Does one person's belief override another's opposing belief? That is what we are dealing with when people refuse to do something because of a belief pattern that is not in accordance with the majority. It is plain common sense to wear a mask in this current time when facing unknown and unseen challenges. Where we can all agree is that God imbued us all with Common Sense - using common sense in the case of wearing a mask doesn't have to involve God's will - God's will is implied in Common Sense. The Common good for all Beings is what is at stake. All anyone has to do is use critical thinking that when we step out of our homes, we face an unseen entity that doesn't care if we wear a mask or not - it will attach to any surface be it animate or inanimate as it can travel through droplets being airborne. My goodness, that is just plain common sense given to all by the Love of God.

  1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

    How can any mythical deity be concerned about wearing a mask? It’s like asking if Voldemort, or fairies, are concerned about wearing masks. Is Santa Clause concerned, and have you been naughty or nice so far this year? That’s the important question.

    🦁❤️

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Fairies wear boots you've got to believe me. I tell you, I tell you, I tell you no lies. Alright, now!

      1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

        Fairies Wear Boots

        Song by Black Sabbath

        Goin' home late last night,

        Suddenly I got a fright

        Yeah, I looked through a window and surprise what I saw

        Fairy boots are dancin' with a dwarf

        All right now

        Yeah fairies wear boots, and you gotta believe me

        Yeah, I saw it, I saw it I tell you no lies

        Yeah Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me

        I saw it I saw it with my own two eyes

        Woah right now

        Yeah fairies wear boots, and you gotta believe me

        Yeah, I saw it, I saw it I tell you no lies

        Yeah fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me

        I saw it I saw it with my own two eyes

        Woah right now

        So I went to the doctor, see what he could give me

        He said, son, son you've gone too far,

        'Cause smokin' an trippin' is all that you do, yeah

        1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

          I stand corrected, T Kosse. Today I listened to Judas Priests' Nostradamus in its entirety. Will you please print all of the words to that one too. Thank you.

          1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

            Carl Bernard Elfstrom this is Judas Priests' Nostradamus in its entirety. Enjoy.

            Nostradamus

            Judas Priest

            They never broke my will

            'cause my heart was strong

            They would justify

            Condemnation by invitation

            I will survive

            Stood my ground till the end

            Engaged the enemy

            Protect my friends

            Nostradamus, Nostradamus

            Tame the beast

            They send to kill

            The congregation never broke my will

            Nostradamus, Nostradamus

            He has overcome

            He can take the throne

            Nostradamus, dedication

            Nostradamus is avenged

            Nostradamus, our salvation

            Nostradamus is avenged

            I walked through fire to justify

            Their inquisitions now condemned to die

            Nostradamus, Nostradamus

            Adversity on which I thrived

            Destroys the alter, now I'm vilified

            Nostradamus, Nostradamus

            He has seized the day

            He is here to stay

            Nostradamus, dedication

            Nostradamus is avenged

            Nostradamus, our salvation

            Nostradamus is avenged

            Vindication

            Ha has been avenged

            They never broke my will

            Cause my heart was strong

            they cannot justify

            I will survive

            He has overpowered

            This his finest hour

            Nostradamus

            Nostradamus

            Nostradamus

            Nostradamus

    2. John P Maher's Avatar John P Maher

      I BELIEVE it is WRITTEN SOMEWHERE in the TERRIBLE MINDs of MINDLESS PEOPLE, GOD SAID NEVER to WEAR a MASK UNLESS YOU ARE ROBBING a BANK or the RICH and GIVING to the POOR, OH that WAS ROBIN Du BOISE GOD !!!

      1. Rev. Jonathan Peebles's Avatar Rev. Jonathan Peebles

        Your bible says "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment." MEANING DEATH by corona virus most likely

        Romans 13:1-7

        1. Heath Jeremiah Ferguson's Avatar Heath Jeremiah Ferguson

          Yes, you are right to quote the scriptures on obedience. But, as a man of God I have to put everything under the final word before I know that it is God's will for me. I have witnessed the mandate of wearing a mask bring forth God's authority over disease to heal a woman, allowing her to comply with the law. At the same time, my son (Jeremiah Judah) who is a miracle child, was born with a disability and cannot wear a mask. I prayed and searched the scriptures finding that God says in Mark 16:18 that he gave us authority over all disease, poison, and even death through the cross. Jeremiah has had no complications at all other than being refused service at taco bell, denied entry to walmart to buy food, and people in the community saying hurtful things like (he is going to die from Corona virus) all because he can't wear a mask? Do we live by the civil government law, or by faith? The JUST shall live by faith, and God's grace of course but, why have we gotten to the point that we are discussing if we are guilty in God's judgment if we don't cover our faces in public? What happens when the Civil Government releases the vaccine and says that it is law that you have to get it or, you can't purchase anything? Will it still be Paul talking to the Christians in Rome telling them to obey, and keep the peace with the Roman Government or, will it be Revelations 13:16-17 mark of the beast to purchase and sell. I truly believe that wearing a mask is going to do nothing to prevent you from getting the virus. Jesus said out of all that I have, I shall not lose one! There's coming a time when the civil law is going to put separation between man and God, and we better be prepared for it when the time comes. We are at the time of Jesus return now, look through your spiritual eyes and see this pandemic for what it is. And those of you that don't know him, please, just call out his name. One of the most powerful prayers you can pray is just calling out his name. Every knee shall bow on earth, in heaven, and under the earth at the sound of his name. God bless you, your family, your church,and all of you at ULC.

  1. The Heretic Hour's Avatar The Heretic Hour

    Eyes are the windows to the soul. Satin has his agents behind the pulpits. Not all but obviously enough. The Father Almighty Creator of all that is seen and unseen created the Gods that created the humans. Protect and guard your soul! Wear a mask! Peace be with you.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Are you saying that Satan and his minion dress in clothes made out of satin? Tempting, isn't it?

      1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

        Yes we all must be aware of satin. For it is written in the bible that it is devilish smooth fabric, that will lead you astray with it silkiness.

        1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

          Whatever you do, never wear satin while eating devil's food cake !!! That would be worse than committing a mortal sin !

          1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

            Damn I really was so looking forward to wearing satin while I eat my devil's food cake. Oh the hell with it I think I will just do it anyway.;-)

            1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

              I'll go to heaven for the climate, and He'll for the company. It's better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven, anyway.

    2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      My God and Goddess only want us to be happy, without causing harm.

  1. James J. DeLuccia's Avatar James J. DeLuccia

    I would absolutely continue wearing the mask, as I’m not just wearing it for myself but others I might come in contact with. I can be cavalier with my health but I don’t feel I have the right to do that with someone else’s. God bless

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      I think I'll keep staying home where I don't have to wear anything at all, except for when I open the door for the Amazon delivery man.

      1. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

        Ya' lost me. Why get dressed for the Amazon guy? Would you get dressed for the Amazon girl? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  1. Karen Elaine Aytes's Avatar Karen Elaine Aytes

    Do unto others, love each other. This Sums it up to me wear the mask as you never know who’s live you may be saving!

  1. Brien's Avatar Brien

    Wow. Some of you are truly brain dead. Since you insist on turning this into a war on spirituality, I have no choice but to respond in kind. 1. Masks do not protect you from particles, they protect others FROM your particles. That is why it is important for all of us to wear them. 2. Why is it so hard NOT TO WISH HARM TO OTHERS? That is what you are doing when you WEAR a mask. You are HELPING. 3. Why do you object with so much zeal about wearing a simple mask, yet you say NOTHING about the homeless, the poor, the hungry? Dropping a couple of bucks into your tithing plate does nothing except let you live a lie. I will stop here as I feel that I have slapped you enough for now. GROW UP.

  1. Minister Carlos Ricardo Walls's Avatar Minister Carlos Ricardo Walls

    By know means do I presume to speak for the Almighty.However mask should be mandatory throughout America.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      I'm thinking about getting a plastic face shield. I have a feeling they'll work better than cloth masks. Amazon has an assortment of them.

  1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

    If the COVID-19 only affected stupid people then, I wouldn't care about who wore a mask or not, but the reality it doesn't just kill stupid people, it affect every one. It's not selective about who might die from it

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      Agreed, this virus is the worst which has been seen by the career epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists. It is still unpredictable in terms of varieties of symptoms and has mutated 3x. Sneakier and sneakier. Now it has been found that those who have been infected with mild symptoms have lung damage. But people who want to continue to stupid will continue to give this virus human hosts to feed on. 125,000 dead in our country with a suggestion that it is much higher.

    2. Brian LaVerne Starkweather's Avatar Brian LaVerne Starkweather

      99.99990985% of people have not died of covid. More people die from heart disease or Cancer or medical mistakes in hospital or mosquitoes than covid. separately!!!....plus records are false because our fascist government has but a price on covid death of $10,000- to $39000 per death, so ya.wake up, fascist globalist are in control. The longer people wear a mask, the more their immune system will shut down, this is a fact. a fact!. so now after the majority of people's immune systems have been shut down, what do you think will happen? A whole bunch of people are going to die from almost anything. A whole bunch of people have had their lives labelled "non essential" and destroyed. Many deaths and loss of life due to more WHO (self created to control the opium market, look how many deaths pharma opium kills, almost none before the WHO existed), crap. We are humans, LIFE IS A RISK, we have always had the right to stay home, until fascist took over and forced us to work for fiat currency to keep our homes that we already own. Look at the big picture and stop living in fear. Breathing is a natural thing. A virus is a natural thing. Death is a natural thing, unless your community has paid mercenaries pointing guns at you, oh yes that is the whole world. Wake up no human won WWII, only fascist and globalist capitalist won the war. All others suffer without regard to any illness that is doing what it is meant to do; strengthen life on earth.

  1. The Rev. William C, Millhouse's Avatar The Rev. William C, Millhouse

    The gods do not care. So wear a mask both for your protection ans the protection of others. These fringe fanatics will soon die out due to natural selection

    1. June Jacqueline Lessard-LaRoche's Avatar June Jacqueline Lessard-LaRoche

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  1. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

    If it wasn't so sad it would be funny. Women have to cover their hair (look at catholic nuns and women in many cultures and religions). Men have to grow beards (Jewish and Muslim) to hide their faces, so what's wrong with a mask to protect yourself and those around you? (Hint - nothing 😂 )

    If you don't want to wear a mask, don't wear one ... at home. When out where killer communicable diseases are being spread, wear one. Seriously, ya'll wear clothes to cover your genitals, so why not a mask cover something that NEEDS to be covered.

    Science is not an opinion.

    1. Sean Patrick Kelly's Avatar Sean Patrick Kelly

      Masks cut off your air supply. Youre literally breathing in your own waste. If you are sick stay home. Making healthy people wear masks is like making people who are not under carfiac arrest wear defibrillators. Get a grip. Stop living in fear and turn the tv off.

      1. Amy Varela's Avatar Amy Varela

        A cotton fabric mask stops the droplets of potential virus from getting on other people. O2 and CO2 can still get through the fabric. Or did you make your mask from a plastic bag and duct tape?

      2. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

        Masks cut off air supply? Try getting COVID 19 and have your lungs get clogged up so you can't breathe at all and suffocate.

        1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

          I can hear Air Supply just fine with a mask on. Just don't cover your ears when that band is playing.

      3. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

        A mask protects the healthy and prevents the afflicted from passing it on. A simple 2 layer cotton mask can reduce your risk of being infected by someone not wearing a mask by up to 35%. Both wearing a mask reduces the risk by 70%.

        Why are you lying about masks cutting off air supply? Millions of people wearing them and not suffocating is ample evidence you don't know your anus from a hole in the ground.

        I left my fear of dying and most other things in Vietnam in 1971 and '72-'73.

        Based on your cavalier, uninformed response, you should be spending time, not watching TV, but in jail

      4. John Stevens's Avatar John Stevens

        Whilst not having the capacity to stop virus particles the masks do pose risks to the wearer. The higher percentage of CO2 in exhaled air is exhaled because it is toxic to us and needs to be removed from the body. When a person dies from drowning, it is the inability to remove the CO2 from their body that kills them first, not the inability to breath in oxygen. Lack of ability to effectively remove CO2 will always kill a person before lack of ability to breath in adequate oxygen. CO2 is a toxic waste product of cellular metabolism that the body must get rid of. Unfortunately, studies show that after just a few moments of mask wearing that exhaled air, with a higher percentage of CO2, is hindered by the mask from dissipating fully before the next inwards breath, causing the wearer to re-breath air with a CO2 percentage that stress's the body due to its toxicity.CO2 molecules are many times larger than virus particles and are hindered by the hole size of the masks filters/fabric. In fact, when a CO2 meter is placed under the mask the levels that the wearer breaths in exceed official safety guidelines after just a few minutes. The situation worsens upon physical activity. Placing the body under this level of CO2 toxicity stress can result in blood oxygen levels of 80% or lower. This is critical, and in a hospital situation you would be treated with oxygen immediately. Such low oxygen levels allow virus's, that can not thrive in oxygen rich environments, to flourish within the body. Oxygen levels this low can also result in 'passing out' which is why we are seeing a few very unfortunate deaths from people passing out whilst wearing a mask and doing activities that require them to be conscious. Whilst most people, who do not have asthma or any other chronic respiratory illness, will be able to carry on with their usual activities, unaware of the changes happening at a physiological level within their body, those changes non-the-less are at best unhealthy and at worst potentially lethal to the mask wearer. Many will develop symptoms such as headaches, and difficulty thinking clearly, which should be taken seriously as warning signs.

        Also of concern is that moisture builds up on the inner surface of the mask. Our exhaled air contains moisture. This can be seen when you breath out on a very cold day. Darker, damp surfaces are the perfect breeding ground for bacteria. Studies on surgical masks show that bacteria that cause pneumonia thrive in the conditions on the inner surface of surgical masks. This is one reason why surgeons change their masks with very high frequently. Anyone wearing a mask, of any material, should change their mask extremely frequently, to reduce the risk of breathing in bacteria that could result in a respiratory infection (the very thing the wearer is trying to avoid). Aside from this, we breath out germs with every breath. Over time those germs can grow and multiply in the perfect environment created on the inner surface of the mask. The wearer simply re-breathes them in.

        1. Joseph SCott Queen's Avatar Joseph SCott Queen

          After a human breathes in Earth's air (roughly 78 percent nitrogen and 21 percent oxygen), he or she exhales a mixture of compounds similar to the air inhaled: 78 percent nitrogen, 16 percent oxygen, 0.09 percent argon, and four percent carbon dioxide.

      5. John Stevens's Avatar John Stevens

        Whilst many people unaware of the science feel a sense of security through themselves and those around them wearing masks, it is important to weigh up the very real risks to health, for what is no actual scientific benefit. Those that do wear masks should practice exemplary mask hygiene by using a brand new mask every hour. They should also monitor themselves for signs of potentially harmful physiological stress and avoid undertaking activities that increase their bodies requirement to expel CO2, such as physical exertion. Should they develop any signs of bacterial respiratory infection they should immediately seek medical care as bacterial pneumonia, such as masks increase the potential for, can be treated effectively with antibiotics if detected early. I would encourage people to explore fully the CDC website and read the many research articles published in scientific journals of exemplary standing both pre and post the start of this current situation. Just because a Governor states that 'we know masks are effective' does not mean that independent unbiased science supports their statement, or that they are meaning 'effective' at doing the same thing you are assuming they mean.

        The original blog post was about whether mask wearing goes against God's will. All of the above does not touch on that at all, and is not intended to do anything more than explore some of the relevant science and encourage individuals to look more deeply at unbiased primary research sources from appropriately qualified independent scientists.

    2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Much earlier in life, if it was socially acceptable Mike, I would not have worn clothes to cover my genitals, but it isn't as quick to get and stay up like it used to be be, and the only thing I can count on protruding is called a healthy, middle age, American gut, which really ought to be covered up. Maybe in another year or so my gray beard will cover it, so I'll feel comfortable walking down the Galveston seawall shirtless again, so I can show off my tattoos, but I'll be wearing a mask even then, except when I take a toke.

  1. Kathleen Baird's Avatar Kathleen Baird

    When I attended Bible School as a child, then church as an adult, I was told that God was all-powerful, all-seeing. Apparently, these people have a defective God who lost His powers like Superman on Kryptonite. Their God doesn't know if you rob a bank, beat your wife, or burn down a church, as long as you wear a mask! The "Do unto others" that Jesus taught means you wear a mask around others, whether or not you are healthy, so the germs/virus, etc. that were sneezed or coughed or breathed on you by someone else are not passed on to others. My rights, my freedom ends where I would harm others by my actions.

  1. Rebecca Ann Olesen's Avatar Rebecca Ann Olesen

    Using religion to promote selfish agendas is a theme as old as time. This is why so many modern people have now rejected religion all together. The abuse of faith is the ultimate religious crime. Many people are sheep, seeking a shepherd to guide them. When the shepard of their flock is misguided, the whole flock goes astray. It's an unfortunate result of a rejection of science mixed with a yearning for spiritual enrichment. The two can live in unison but strange agendas often put them at odds.

  1. Eric's Avatar Eric

    The mask "mandates" aren't protecting anyone from Covid 19:

    1. Only specific types of industrial and medical masks effectively block infectious particles. Most, if not all, of the "mandates" allow just about any kind of covering of any type of material.

    2. Particles can infect through eye membranes, so a mask without eye protection is ineffective.

    3. Infectious particles can be picked up on the skin, and transferred to others via objects you touch. Therefore, masks are ineffective without protective gloves and clothing that are frequently changed, and a strict sanitation program for skin and objects that may come in contact with skin (eg. cleaning food packages from the grocery store).

    4. If Covid is as dangerous as we are being told, all used masks, gloves, etc. should never be reused, and should be disposed of in biohazard waste containers. Instead we see people using the same mask over and over, and discarding masks in regular trash cans, if they don't just throw them on the ground in the parking lot.

    So, until the mask "mandates" also mandate specific types of mask, eye protection, gloves, rigorous personal sanitation, and proper biohazard disposal, they are doing little to protect public health.

    They are, however, creating a false sense of security. As an article in the NEJM puts it, "It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans... Although such reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety... One might argue that fear and anxiety are better countered with data and education than with a marginally beneficial mask, particularly in light of the worldwide mask shortage, but it is difficult to get clinicians to hear this message in the heat of the current crisis... [Masks'] greatest contribution may be to reduce the transmission of anxiety, over and above whatever role they may play in reducing transmission of Covid-19." https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?query=TOC

    I, for one, don't think it's a good idea to reduce a person's anxiety by lying to them about how their Etsy earloop mask is saving grandma.

    The "mandates" are also doing a great job of demonstrating how readily the general public will comply with government overreach, as well as how readily keyboard warriors will skip scientific scrutiny in favor of emotional appeals.

    If it makes you feel better, cool, wear a mask. If you're wearing one because you imagine your favorite deity would approve, fine, no problem. The problems occur when government makes unlawful, unscientific "mandates", business owners discriminate on the basis of their ignorant fear, and fearfully compliant mask-wearers disguise their fear as moral superiority.

  1. Barbara Kay Bradford Fenchak's Avatar Barbara Kay Bradford Fenchak

    Let's talk science. "There's been enough research done to be able to confidently say that masks wouldn't be able to stop the spread of infection, that they would only have a small effect on transmission," Cowling said. "We shouldn't be relying on masks to help us go back to normal." Cowling, co-director of the WHO Collaborating Center for Infectious Disease Epidemiology and Control. How about we revert to what old school moms have always said'" You're sick. You're staying home'. Cover that cough or sneeze.. Don't get to close to people"

  1. Vern Dee Wall's Avatar Vern Dee Wall

    Just because something is a good idea that doesn't mean it should be a law. People are mostly getting tired of politicians responding to every opportunity to throw their weight around. They can't stand to admit that their services are not needed.

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      You are right. This pandemic has been politicized and some people have been spreading conspiracy theories, intentionally denying scientific facts about the nature of this virus. Because so many people have been manipulated to not take this seriously, there is a need for mandates. Just like mandates on speed limits, seat belts, not drinking under the influence, paying taxes, etc. When people refuse to care about others, then rules have to be made.

      1. Vern Dee Wall's Avatar Vern Dee Wall

        Now this: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/gfuvq3/usa_country_map_divided_by_13rds_of_covid_deaths/

    2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Many laws are bad ideas that are totally unjustifiable, and should never be paid any attention to. Just don't get caught!

  1. Clay Serenbetz's Avatar Clay Serenbetz

    We covered this topic awhile ago when Ohio Rep. Vitale first raised this issue. Jesus would recognize the need to protect your fellow citizens from harm. In my opinion, the social contract in "modern" America requires you to wear a mask to protect your fellow citizens. Failure to wear a mask not only has the potential to harm yourself (which is OK with me, you asked for the punishment), but your action - not wearing a mask - could cause harm to others. I equate not wearing a mask to murder, attempted murder or, at best. assault. If you inadvertently spread the virus, you might as well have played russian roulette with a AK47 in a crowded venue. Let your conscious deal with that on your Judgment Day. Also, as was stated by a participant awhile ago, your whole body is in God's image. If you refuse to wear a mask, you should concurrently go naked.

  1. Rev. Dennis's Avatar Rev. Dennis

    To use God for purposes of acting like a petulant child is abhorrent. Man was made in God's image. ALL OF MAN. This does not mean just a mask but all your clothes. If you want to follow a literal word for word translation of the bible, then you should ALWAYS BE NAKED. This was part of the original sin section of the bible. If you believe such fundamentalism then the woman should not have been at the meeting and shouting at a man then. She should have been at home caring for her husband and NEVER speaking to a man like that. You cannot pick and choose which of God's words to use when it is convenient for an argument to justify you using his name in vain (which is what you are doing by the way). Using his name in vain is a MORTAL SIN! Much more so than covering up your face so you best repent my brothers and sisters for your arrogance. This especially means you @VoteVitale.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      Please, let's only persuade the pretty to get naked, in the name Jesus, or whatever floats your boat.

    2. Amy Varela's Avatar Amy Varela

      Rev. Dennis, as much as I do not believe in the existence of any god, I agree with your comment 100%. But maybe don't encourage the people who refuse to wear masks to always be naked. Some of us don't want to see that happen!

      1. Rev. R.B. Vandevert's Avatar Rev. R.B. Vandevert

        If many of you don't believe in any God..why are connected to this ULC?

        1. Brian Scott Hoff's Avatar Brian Scott Hoff

          Because it is not a requirement to believe in a god. You should read up.

        2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

          Keep coming back R.B., and you'll figure it out eventually. You might even try reading the ULC mission statement again, and reflect on the meaning of We Are All Children Of The Same Universe. There's also a very good poem called Desiderata of which you might read and reflect upon. Everyone on this blog is a ULC minister, and ULC only posts the comments they want to.

          1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

            There is also a "Deteriorata" - National Lampoon

            1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

              I especially miss Wacky Packages, but can't chew the bubblegum anymore. The cartoons in Hustler are also very funny.

              1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

                Damn they stop publication of Mad Magazine after 67 year, but at least you can get it via subscription and direct markets.

  1. James M Slack's Avatar James M Slack

    I think it’s time for all Christian to stand and have their voices heard. There is no where in the Bible, that our God or Jesus said you are forbidden to wear a mask. Our radical liberals are continuing to stir the pot. It’s not only time to take our cities back. It’s time to take our country back. Our Heavenly Father Will back us. So back up our law enforcement and the people that want it back, along with our President. Due it before we no longer have a country. God Help and Bless America

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      Oh please, what do "radical liberals" if they exist, have anything to do with the science of COVID 19? This is a health crises, not political, not religious. To even cite the Bible is ludicrous as this virus didn't even exist when it was written. How silly and misinformed. Stirring the pot? Take whose country back? It's my country and if you are so self centered as to willingly spread a deadly virus to others, then start evaluating your so called Christian values. Better yet, have all you cult followers come to your home, camp out for awhile and infect all of your family members. Your so called Heavenly Father hasn't stopped other Christians from getting sick and dying from this horrid virus. If you stop feeding human hosts to the virus,it will slow down. But you want to keep feeding it. Shame.

    2. Minister Mike's Avatar Minister Mike

      "Due it before..." 🤣 Gotta' love the spelling and grammar skills presented in these messages.

      1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        As a child, Mike, my favorite comic strip was Snuffy Smith. Reading this blog, with all of its grammatical errors, is often just as hilarious, to someone like me, who was reading and writing on second year college level, in the eighth grade, according to my achievement tests.

        1. Brian Scott Hoff's Avatar Brian Scott Hoff

          Be careful, patting yourself on the back that much can cause injury to your shoulder.

          1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

            Thanks for the word of advice, Brian, but my shoulders are well padded, just like my gut. And I feel much better about my appearance now at 57, than when I was a very skinny kid, who could sit comfortably with my legs crossed behind my head. It's much better to be proud of ourselves than self-defeating.

            1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

              Really I could never comfortably with my legs crossed behind my head without pulling a leg muscle.

        2. John P Maher's Avatar John P Maher

          YEAH MINISTER MIKE a REALLY ENLIGHTENED MINISTER of IGNORANCE, YEAH BELITTLE PEOPLE and SAY YOU a MINISTER of GOD, B S hows that MICKEY......

    3. Lumina's Avatar Lumina

      You are so correct. Take our country back. If not is going to be communist.

      1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

        You know, we Native Americans would love to take OUR country back because your kind has caused so much damage from your racist ways and beliefs that you are superior. Time is up and you are foolish to come on a minister's site to spread your trash talk. This country belongs to ALL of us, Native, Black, Asian, Hispanic and Anglos. Get over yourself or please self deport back to the land of YOUR ancestors. Otherwise, accept that this is not just about YOU.

    4. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      James M Slack, I couldn't be happier than to see that your version of what this country ought to be about is on the way out. Maybe you can join your idol Trump, on the first flight to Russia, right after he loses the election.

      1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

        His own country kicked him out do really think that Russia would want that useless bloated flagellant bag toxic methane gas.

        Earlier Recorded Surnames: Drumpf and Trumpf or der Scheißkopf A historian has discovered a royal decree issued to Donald Trump’s grandfather ordering him to leave Germany and never come back.

        Friedrich Trump, a German, was issued with the document in February 1905, and ordered to leave the kingdom of Bavaria within eight weeks as punishment for having failed to do mandatory military service and failing to give authorities notice of his departure to the US when he first emigrated in 1885.

        Kallstadt, Germany: on the trail of 'the Donald' in the Trump ancestral home

        Roland Paul, a historian from Rhineland-Palatinate who found the document in local archives, told the tabloid Bild: “Friedrich Trump emigrated from Germany to the USA in 1885. However, he failed to de-register from his homeland and had not carried out his military service, which is why the authorities rejected his attempt at repatriation.”

        The decree orders the “American citizen and pensioner Friedrich Trump” to leave the area “at the very latest on 1 May ... or else expect to be deported”.

        1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

          If Donald Trump's ancestor never became an American citizen was he married to an American citizen, or did one of his descendants become an American citizen? If not, how can our president be an American citizen? If he was born into a family of illegal aliens then wouldn't he also be an illegal alien, and wouldn't that make his presidency illegal, and grounds for immediate expulsion?

  1. Allen Alexander's Avatar Allen Alexander

    God expects us to follow the laws of our country. Just as in a war and a soldier kills, God does not hold that against the soldier as murder. God also expects of us to exercise good judgement and act in the manner as proscribed in the Ten Commandments and in the teachings of Jesus. A person (such as the woman in the article) who speaks irrationally and casts illogically is not speaking as God's representative. We are expected to act in a manner as to not cause harm. Wearing a mask prevents not only harm to ourselves but to others as well.
    Consider others as well as yourself, wear your mask.

  1. Carol A siebert's Avatar Carol A siebert

    Your body is a Church. You would want to protect it right? So wearing a Mask is protecting it to a degree. Jesus wouldn't worry about wearing a mask because he is who he is. Slow the Virus down, wear a Mask.

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    But how can anyone give head with a mask on? There must be a way!

    1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      I'm sure that if people put the their two heads together they will find a way.

  1. Brother David's Avatar Brother David

    It is almost laughable to read some of the coments. Common sense should have told the masses what to question when you have some saying "the mask will do no good". That was all wrong and the head of this country is still wrong. A mask, washing hands, stay away from ..... nothing new but we have been practiceing these simple guidelines for years to control an outbreak. I have been out of the claseroom for 25 years and college for 20 before that and we used that method as the first line defense or start of awareness, good health practices to help control the spread.

  1. Geraldine Ulicny's Avatar Geraldine Ulicny

    not wearing a mask and continuing to breathe is like putting your baby in the pool without a swimmie diaper. Maybe nothing happen but...whyyyyy?

  1. Anne E Mayer's Avatar Anne E Mayer

    I'm saved, not stupid. I'm wearing a mask.

  1. Autumn R Iriarte's Avatar Autumn R Iriarte

    Has anyone heard the story "The Drowning Man"? In short, a man was stuck on a rooftop during a flood. He prayed to God to save him. A short time later, a rowboat, a motorboat and a helicopter happened by and attempted to save him but he said he didn't want them to save him because God would. Eventually he drowned. In heaven he asked God why he didn't save the man. God said he sent a rowboat, a motorboat and a helicopter to save him.

    So here is something to think about... We have been given the opportunity to obtain free or purchased masks and the knowledge we should wear one in order to help protect us and others from this virus. Are you going to the be like the man in the story? Are you going to pray for protection from the virus and go without a mask? Or are you going to use a mask? I wonder what God will tell you when you get to heaven and ask him why he didn't protect you? Will he tell you, he provided you with the opportunity to wear a mask?

    I totally understand wearing a mask is not 100 percent effective in keeping the virus away, however, why not choose to reduce the chances of contracting the virus? God will only give you the opportunity to wear a mask. He is a big believer in giving his children the option to "choose". What will your choice be?

    1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      Very well said.

    2. Pastor Bobby Roy's Avatar Pastor Bobby Roy

      very good

  1. David L Huey's Avatar David L Huey

    WWJD? Hmmm, let me think. Would he or would he not wear a mask? The answer is obvious. HE WOULD JUST CURE THE FRIGGIN ILLNESS!!! Come on people pull your head out of your collective asses. No matter how you slice it, if you have to ask this question then you are obviously not not Jesus Christ. So use thee brains he gave you and wear the mask. If not for the safety of your brothers and sisters then for your own safety; unless you just are really wanting to get on the fast track to see St. Peter, to keep yourself from being a carrier.

  1. Joshua Benjamin Brown's Avatar Joshua Benjamin Brown

    'When given the choice between being right or being kind, choose kind. - Dr Wayne W. Dyer' Wearing a mask is a simple act of kindness that shows I care about the well being of others. It is a minor inconvenience that I am willing to deal with in order to reduce my chances of harming another in the event that I am asymptomatic. To do otherwise shows a distinct lack of compassion toward others.

  1. Jeff McClain's Avatar Jeff McClain

    The Devils work indeed, the Mask has been politicized and people are now taking sides. Sorry, but people use the word science without understanding the science in the first place!!!! The science actually tells us that not wearing a mask is better for us than wearing one!!!! WAKE UP!!!! You are part of a much more sinister experiment than you realize, all the data points to an overblown pandemic, many of the deaths have actually been proven to be NON-Covid related!!!! It has been proven that the majority of the new cases are an uptick of panic and testing!!!!! AMERICA is in trouble, because of the Media, if we do not wake up and realize our freedoms and stop moving away from God his hand of grace will leave us, wake up stop listening to the talking heads on television everything you see and hear on television is not reality, you are being controlled and the Experiment is simple, train people to obey, using any means possible, even FEAR!!!!! As Patrick Henry once said, "Give me liberty or Give me Death". But unfortunately many will walk into their own demise thinking they are saving themselves.

    1. Brian Scott Hoff's Avatar Brian Scott Hoff

      It takes posts like yours to remind me how far we have yet to go. I'm actually hoping your posts are more like a parody rather than an actual opinion.

    2. Lumina's Avatar Lumina

      You are so correct this is a spiritual warfare. Stop living in fear. This is what the devil wants..

      1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        The so-called devil isn't nearly as bad as you seem to think he is. I bet you don't know him very well, Lauren.

      2. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

        Well if I ever happen to bump into the devil, I have to remember to ask him what he really wants. Who know maybe all he really wants is a nice slice of devil food cake and a tall class of milk.

  1. TheSound.com's Avatar TheSound.com

    God helps those who help themselves. Wearing a safety mask is just like wearing safety belts in a car. Just exchange "seat belts" for "masks" in the arguments against wearing masks and it is extremely easy to see the truth that wearing masks is a very good, very helpful, Christian, idea and not an infringement on anyone's rights.

    1. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

      I tried exchanging a mask for a seat belt, but I found it hard breathing through a seat belt, and my mask was rubbish as a restraint. 🤣

    2. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

      I tried exchanging a mask for a seat belt, but I found it hard breathing through a seat belt, and my mask was rubbish as a restraint. 🤣

  1. Omela Benny's Avatar Omela Benny

    If wearing a mask is a symbol of curtailing the spread of a pandemic and looking out for your fellow citizens why would it be considered against the grain of religion? Are we becoming so fanatical that we have to resort to unfounded ideologies; yet we condemn other countries whose lifestyles, beliefs and clothing are different.

  1. Delphine S. Pillar's Avatar Delphine S. Pillar

    I wear a mask because it is common sense and I am an infection control specialist retired now. It is a virus, not a political issue, not a constitutional issue, a health issue. It is pure insanity not to protect yourself and your loved ones the best you can. Not only from airborne spread but cross contamination. Secondly, Yes, Caucasians culturally co-opted Jesus, he was a Middle Eastern Jewish man, he did not look like a white hippie. But that said , to tear down statues of Jesus is over the top, unnecessary. The only thing necessary is to educate ourselves so we don't do the same, not destruction of property. Jesus was not a slave owner, he would have been appalled at the selfishness of not trying to protect our loved ones and others with wearing a mask. The ongoing hatred I see on the net right now is shocking, the disrespect, name calling, and worse misinformation about this virus. Please protect yourselves and your loved ones. If Jesus was coming, I am 100% sure he doesn't need anyone to send him dead people that were killed with carelessness, spite, and lack of education. .

  1. Martha Knight's Avatar Martha Knight

    If the "likeness of God" aspect of God's creation of humans, wouldn't facial hair, or maybe the absence of it, be a rejection of God's design? How about a nose job? Cosmetics? Cosmetic surgery? Is being modeled after God about appearance, or other qualities? Are we to seek to resemble God physically only, or in ANY physical aspect. given that God is said to be a spirit? If any human has SEEN God, has that human provided a physical description? How about skin color? If a Caucasian resembles God as to skin tone, how can a Black person resemble God? Does God have masculine physical characteristics, or female ones? How do we know? Shouldn't anyone insisting that masks change our resemblance to God be able to answer those questions?

  1. Mary E Benoit's Avatar Mary E Benoit

    Yes, I wear a mask. I believe in science and I see the illness around those who don’t. This virus is real and needs our attention with science recommended action. If you don’t wear a mask and get the virus I suspect you will pray and stay away from hospital that promotes scientific treatment. Why should you believe in an unseen virus, it’s not in the bible.

    1. Mary E Benoit's Avatar Mary E Benoit

      What is your definition of God? Mine does not have human characteristics and I believe in science too. A lot of strange thinking comes with the old “white man’s burden”. It places all others in an inferior status. Modern thinking erases at least most of that position and baggage, thankfully.

  1. Ven.Rev.Donald P Ray Jr.'s Avatar Ven.Rev.Donald P Ray Jr.

    I wear a mask and gloves and all my Ceremonies are outdoors.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      It does seem best to cast our magick ceremony circles outdoors, under the moonlight.

  1. David Ciambrone's Avatar David Ciambrone

    The wearing of a mask has nothing to do with god. if he made everything like it says in the bible then he made this virus too. Protect yourself, he won't. God will NOT protect you from this virus. If you don't wear a mask, you may well not just get sick, you could easily die. You would then be eligible for the Darwin award.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      I don't care what God wants. I'm wearing a mask anyway! Whoever did everything they thought God wanted them to do? If God wants us to die by not wearing masks it's time to get a different god.

  1. James Kwesi Forson's Avatar James Kwesi Forson

    We need to Pray for God protection

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      People have been praying. It only gets worse because they are relying on behaviors which do nothing to effect this virus. So it doesn't work. Prayer only puts the one praying in an altered state of consciousness. It can be relaxing and block out reality for awhile, just like meditation or guided imagery or smoking weed. Why do some people believe that their God is like Aladdin in a lamp and that prayers are like rubbing the lamp and waiting for the genie to come flying out to ask them about their wish?

  1. Patrick Campbell's Avatar Patrick Campbell

    Of course I wear a mask! I wear mask because it is the reasonable conclusion of intelligent scientists that it is a good thing to do in this world of COVID-19. If God did NOT want me, and others like me, to wear a mask, he would send me an internal message telling me NOT to listen to the pro voices. The only message that I am sensing is that I should listen to the scientists who are responding to His teaching. Those folks who are saying NO in the face of such positive reasons for wearing one, must be listening to the preachments of God's enemies. In fact, God so wants us to wear a mask, that he has sent down numerous instructions on how we can make our own masks at home, thus insuring that we will be safe. In the face of such good work, Who can argue that we should NOT wear a simple mask? Minister Patrick - California.

  1. William D Stevens's Avatar William D Stevens

    Wearing a mask is not "going against God." As some have stated, Jesus would have worn a mask, to walk beside those that do, to ward of the fear of becoming sick, or dying. I just lost my wife of 35 years, to ESRD, and I wore my mask everywhere. When she would leave the house, she wore a mask. Her immune system was too weak to handle a common cold, Covid-19 would have killed her in hours. There are too many Americans, loved ones, and neighbors, that are at risk to be so foolish, or irresponsible. Love thy Neighbor.....not...sneeze and kill thy neighbor.

  1. Carole Anne Hill's Avatar Carole Anne Hill

    I wear a mask so I do not get sick. Not sure why it's such a big deal. Nurses and Doctors wear them every day to protect themselves from infected people, so why wouldn't we wear them to protect ourselves and others from getting a virus we know very little about? Also, the virus is constantly mutating so makes it hard to keep up with it. Anyway, I think if we all do our part and wear a mask for a time such as this we shall overcome.

  1. Patricia Ann Buben's Avatar Patricia Ann Buben

    Wearing a mask protects everyone, shows love of neighbor and respect for our body which is the temple of the soul. Science is beginning to catch up with the benefit -- it appears that coronavirus can spread in the air even after an infected person has left the room. I'm not sure I understand why this has become such a politicized issue.

  1. Jo Ann Lovelis's Avatar Jo Ann Lovelis

    This is an evil disease brought upon us by the devil himself. He's in a panic to bring as many innocent souls on his side by killing thousands. I'm doing my part to make sure those around me are safe as well as myself. Wearing a face mask and doing what the health organizations and the government tells us is the only way we're going to defeat this disease.

  1. Nathan Warren Driscoll's Avatar Nathan Warren Driscoll

    It is one thing to act carelessly with your own well-being but quite another when you act carelessly with the well-being of others. no one has the right to expose others to danger or harm. the fact that this is a point of discussion is unbelievable.

  1. Allen Alexander's Avatar Allen Alexander

    "Does Wearing a Mask Go Against God's Will"

    Only if you claim donald trump as your God.

  1. Hazel's Avatar Hazel

    I feel very certain that the government is not targeting churches by saying people need to wear masks and they are not supposed to sing while they're IN church. If a person refuses to wear a mask, well, there goes the barrier against transmitting the virus. Then, if an unmasked person is singing, that will send the particles and droplets from their nose and mouth way farther than just talking or breathing.

    I'm a pagan and we do most of our group rituals outside anyway when weather permits. But we have not met in person since before COVID became public. Sometimes we have 70 to 80 people in attendance but we do not want to spread the virus so we are doing what we do virtually online through Zoom.

    I find it very hard to believe that anyone is stupid enough to not follow simple infection control procedures like wearing a mask, washing your hands and so on. I think a large part of this could have been prevented if people would have used common sense in the first place and covered their coughs and sneezes, washed their hands and did common sense things like those.

    To not listen to the scientific evidence is foolish arrogance. It's too bad that the rebellious ones are willing to let their foolish arrogance kill themselves and other people along with them.

  1. Karsten S. A. Johansson's Avatar Karsten S. A. Johansson

    The Bible is filled with stories about taking care of yourself, taking care of others, and even healing others. There is no verse that I can think of that would suggest the leper should just wander around and spread his infection around. People who came into contact with unclean things were sent out of the village for specifically determined amounts of time, which sure sounds a lot like isolation and quarantine to me.

    I would interpret that as meaning you should wear a mask, social distance, avoid crowdedness, etc, and to think anything otherwise is willful blindness.

  1. Delphine S. Pillar's Avatar Delphine S. Pillar

    As an infection control nurse I can't think of anything dumber than putting God into this whole virus thing, it's science people. In the stone age we thought God destroyed crops, people, etc. for their misbehavior looks like people are reverting back to when there were no schools or science. I am sick of stupid, entitled people while medical people are trying to survive and help you survive, idiots are out spreading the virus, not wearing masks and taking precautions. If anything comes out of this there may be a lot less stupid, entitled people, but it's the innocent who suffer and die because of their selfish, thoughtless behavior that bothers me and the healthcare workers who die because of it.

  1. Julia Hovey's Avatar Julia Hovey

    When God heals all, I can find NO justification for even thinking Jesus would wear a mask, or get a vaccine. Masks in the bible appear to be associated with spiritual infidelity or wickedness - and your words, in my opinion, would qualify. We SHOULD know that Satan knows the bible and the words of our Lord better than most of us, and can distort the teachings to persuade us that his way is biblical. People don't question why we are apparently no longer allowed a second opinion - medically OR politically! Oh - and no mask mandate qualifies as a "law of the land", as this land is under the Constitution, a covenant between our country and God - and such a mandate would be unConstitutional. Last but not least, the children are hurt by this more than the adults - I am firm in believing God would not condone anything that causes injury to the children!

    1. Jayson James Borey's Avatar Jayson James Borey

      I agree

  1. William Cureton Fox's Avatar William Cureton Fox

    No.

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      No to mask wearing? So how about if you inform us what city/town you live in so we can look up your obituary in the paper.

      1. Lumina's Avatar Lumina

        Stop walking in fear Jesus said he would protect you have faith

        1. Amy Varela's Avatar Amy Varela

          Tell that to all the ministers who died after telling their congregations that very thing. Maybe Jesus meant to have faith in the people who know what they are talking about, the scientists, virologists, doctors, etc. Or maybe Jesus didn't really know what he was talking about. Maybe he didn't actually exist. Maybe he did exist, but wasn't really divine. Maybe there is no god and we have to rely on human intelligence and experience.

          Since there is no way at all to prove the existence of Jesus or any of the gods, I am going to rely on the best information and wear a mask. "Faith is not a reliable path to truth." (If I can edit this I will add from whom this quote comes.)

          1. Delphine S. Pillar's Avatar Delphine S. Pillar

            Jesus didn't say act stupid and then expect me to bail you out, lol. God helps those who help themselves, not pick up the slack for those who act irresponsible. I suppose all those who died of the "Black Plague" just didn't have enough faith. Plus all those who just died of Covid -19 the same. I so thank God that there are some educated and responsible people around.

        2. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

          How has Jesus protected all you Christians who have ignored the warnings and continued to gather without protection? Where has your Jesus been? 128,000 precious people are dead in our nation. How is that protecting us all?

          1. Cathrine Elizabeth Silver's Avatar Cathrine Elizabeth Silver

            Are you in that much fear that you continue to attack anyone who does not share your opinion? To change your focus, there are prevention and cure protocols. One prevention is given on my blog from Dr. Todd Ovokaitys. www.cathysilver.com. Why don't you buy the AIR caps and then you'll feel safer? It's time for UNITY--for we are all part of the ONE.

    2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      It looks like Fox learned a new word.

      1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

        Really that must have been quite a struggle for them.

  1. Johnny Mac 's Avatar Johnny Mac

    only doctors and nurses and people working in hazardous careers or areas wear mask. Food service workers reqire masks if the Health department says too. Sick people should out of courteous care. For a healthy person to have to ware one. Why are the idiots demanding we wear mask not doing it themselves! Reporters yanked theirs off after the Presidental Briefing and crowded together. Try running wearing a mask! Get stupid you die! The only reason we have a pandemic is because of Past Administrations! The only people you see wearing face coverings before the “pandemic” were terrorist and antifa or robbers! I wear a full beard! That is my mask! GOD made me the way I am. If HE wants me here I will survive. If HE takes me, I will be gone. I have lived a full life. I am tired of this world and it’s EVIL! Come please JESUS! Amen

    1. Alexander Clarke's Avatar Alexander Clarke

      Not too tightly wrapped are we?

      1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        But being crazy is so much fun, Alexander. Why would we ever want to be any other way?

    2. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      I think an ingrown hair from your full beard might have affected your brain. I seriously think you should seek medical help.You really seem to be suffering from persecution delusion, which is delusional conditions in which the affected person believe they are being persecuted, despite a lack of evidence. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central element : the individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur

    3. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      O My Lawdy, you sound like you should get professional help or at least consult with you primary physician. For all you know COVID 19 is affecting your brain because what you are texting here is word salad. Please, for your sake and the sake of your family, seek medical care. This is no joke.

    4. Nicole Joice's Avatar Nicole Joice

      The trouble with this logic is that with this particular virus, you don't really know if you have it or not.... Many people contracted and are completely symptom free but spread it to other people without knowing. Not wearing a mask is inviting other people to die. Wearing one is a sign of humility respect and compassion. As a person who has had COVID, and recoved...my lungs are now permanently damaged. I am still here by the grace of the Gods, But I sure don't want to inflict that kind of suffering on anybody else.

    5. Lumina's Avatar Lumina

      You are correct stop walking in fear, this is what everyone is doing walking in fear instead of having faith.

    6. Brien's Avatar Brien

      I could care less if YOU want to be stupid, but I refuse to pay the price for it. If you wish to die, please make sure you are only risking YOUR life. You believe in the after life so know this...If me or mine pay the final price for your stupidity I will hunt you all thru the after life. Jesus will not be able to save you. Why do you wish harm to others? Why is your stupid face carpet more valuable than someone's life? How did you arrive at this conclusion? Do you honestly believe that all the doctors are lying? You must be smarter than every doctor on the planet. Hey, if that is the case, come up with a cure. Then there will be no need for masks.

  1. Charles Richard Bezio's Avatar Charles Richard Bezio

    Does Wearing a Mask Go Against God's Will?

    You have got to be kidding. God does not require to endanger yourself or others. No wearing a mask 😷 makes a load and clear statement what you think 🤔 about the teaching of Jesus.

    Keep Safe Minister Chuck Chuck of Love & Light

  1. Ragi Burhum's Avatar Ragi Burhum

    Wear the MASK .......defeat the soldiers of SATAN, who created the virus, to kill us, as sons of Jesus Christ and his Father.......I am proud, to be born in the real BETHLEHEM, about 1 km, far from the CHURCH OF NATIVITY........GOD BLESS HUMANITY.......!!!

  1. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

    Does anyone ever ask these deluded people where there is any injunction against covering the face?

    If anything, religions have supported women wearing a face veil (and some really do need one), but that has been based upon opinion, not a canonical requirement.

    Pope Francis is hypocritical in his comments, considering his refusal to approve the wearing of a condom, in order to stop the spread of Aids.

    It appeared that the simpleton filming that idiot, who was intent upon entering the store without a mask, was supposed to be helping manbun man in restricting entry

    What kind of mental deficiency stops you from doing the right thing, yet allows you to film what could, ultimately, be a potentially serious situation, with an accompanying barely intelligible patois monologue.

    1. Lumina's Avatar Lumina

      Pope Francis is a fake . He is not from GOD.

      1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        Maybe Pope Francis doesn't like the taste of plastic, and is protein deficient.

        1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

          Which do you think he like more Italian sausage or German sausage, Italian meatballs or Swedish meatballs ?

      2. Brien's Avatar Brien

        Wow. You really need to adjust your medication.

      3. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

        Pope Francis is not from God? "Fake" what? Lauren, you seem to be trolling here. Please find another platform not for ministers. You are not adding anything of substance either.

    2. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      Store employees are not allowed to touch anyone, you may block him/ her, but do not touch if somebody is argumentative, aggressive or you might think or know is stealing something, you may watch and report to a salary management. BUT DO NOT TOUCH EVER, it for safety and liability reasons. You could be injured, sued, or charged with assault or all three.

  1. Tonnia Marie Hart's Avatar Tonnia Marie Hart

    I wear the mask in stores and laundromats because I have grandchildren that Has asthma I myself have asthma I’m prone to bronchitis. Being that it attacks upper respiratory system; I make sure I protected myself and them. I also know that for our immune system to recognize it and to know how to fight it it has to "face" it. We learn that in Science like fifth-grade. This is not the 1st pandemic and it won't be the last.

    1. Lumina's Avatar Lumina

      Do not wear a mask. Just tell them you have a medical problem, they should not ? It because of HIPPA LAW. And if they do tell them they are discriminating.

      1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

        Its HIPAA, not HIPPA.

      2. Brien's Avatar Brien

        Lauren, please don't kill anyone else. You do NOT have that right.

  1. Lori L Rich's Avatar Lori L Rich

    I truly believe that wearing a mask helps prevent further infection to you, and family, and the general public! If everyone would do a small part such as this I believe it would definitely help stop the spread of this virus! If you have ever struggled for air you would put pettiness aside! I have asthma so I do know struggling to breathe is very very scary!

  1. Jeanine Joy's Avatar Jeanine Joy

    Saying "Jesus wouldn't wear a mask so I won't wear one" is like saying that the lepers could have healed themselves. If someone is so advanced that illness cannot abide in their presence, then don't wear a mask and get to work helping those who have not ascended to that level of faith and ability to see our true nature.

    But if someone isn't at that level, wear a mask to protect others if not yourself.

  1. Sean Patrick Kelly's Avatar Sean Patrick Kelly

    Covid is a Lie. Turn your tvs off and look around you. No one is sick anywhere. If you believe in germ theory the tiny particles that make up viruses are smaller than the molecules that make up the farts you breathe through your face diapers. So its not stopping the rona. Especially comical are the self righteous dupes wearing masks and tshirts that say "I Cant breathe." 👍 you literally cant breathe because you're breathing in your own carbon dioxide waste and bacteria with that face diaper you literal morons

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      I never go to the hospital, but I bet there's a lot of sick people in there. Whenever I get a cold, or even hay fever, I stay home. Do you think other people might do that too when they get sick, atleast when it gets bad enough to notice. Before they know they're sick, and it isn't noticeable to anyone else, they just go as bout their lives as usual, spreading illness to unsuspecting people wherever they go. And I'm not only talking about Covid 19. It could be any contagious illness. And there are many. I even once saw a man wearing an astronaut suit and helmet, breathing through a tube connected to an air tank, at the Greyhound Bus station, in Houston. And believe it or not, he was sitting right next to Jesus, who was smoking a joint.

      1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

        Really was Peter, Paul and Mary with him also?

    2. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      Yes, 128,000 American dead is a lie. What planet do you live on ? Stop spreading disinformation here. Why are you here? You are not a minister. Clueless, go peddle your evil somewhere else.

  1. Lumina's Avatar Lumina

    This is called conditioning. No governor or no mayor or attorney can make a law we have a legislative body. We need to stand up. They are brainwashing everyone. Show me the law. Read your State constitution and it shows that you are protected. They are taking are freedom away. Your oxygen goes down. Is very unhealthy.

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      OMG, what freedom? The freedom to infect others and maybe kill them? So if that is the case, stop wearing seat belts, ignore speed limits and drive as fast as you want. Who cares if you kill people for driving too fast, It's your freedom! Don't file your taxes and tell the IRS its your freedom not to, don't pay your bills, because who the heck has a right to tell YOU what to do. The brainwashing is by people who have absolutely no clue about science, accept how the horrible virus has mutated into 3 strains, how it infects the human body, and how it lies in wait to be fed more human hosts. It's goal is to replicate itself, and multiply to stay alive no matter how much it damages everyone. Yes, your oxygen goes down when it infects your lungs with a thick substance that closes the aeroles in the lungs and suffocates people. If the name you have posted is your actual name, please indicate your city of residence so we can look for your obituary. Otherwise, wear a mask to protect others and stop allowing yourself from being brainwashed by those who have politicized this world wide pandemic.

    2. Nicole Joice's Avatar Nicole Joice

      I beg your pardon. Your oxygen goes down maybe by one point or 2 if that. ... big deal. I'm not sure where you have gotten your information...get a pulse oximeter and see for yourself. As a person who has had this virus and recovered I can say That once you get it and have lived through it, you may change your mind about sentencing others to illness and possibly death.

  1. Richard Lee Cornell's Avatar Richard Lee Cornell

    The Pope in Rome has order all its churches to have all its members to wear masks. If you do not want to you will be bar from entering. All priest and nuns will wear masks at all time. Distancing is more than six feet. Those over 60 are encourage to stay home. To keep a mask on when family members show up. Those who are not Catholic the Pope encourage them to herd without masks. Afterlife2.org has a message for our members.

  1. Richard Lee Cornell's Avatar Richard Lee Cornell

    Podcast series. "This Week in Virology" Start with # 581.

  1. Ms. Darcy's Avatar Ms. Darcy

    those saying I'm wearing a mask to keep from spreading the virus, good for you.... but those saying " I'm scared, or I'll die if I get sick, so I'm wearing a mask" ... the mask IS NOT PROTECTING YOU!!! it only keeps you from spreading the virus to others when and if you get it !! and it is not guaranteed to do that, only if you wear the medical ones.... the washable cloth ones don't.....

  1. David Arthur Lewis's Avatar David Arthur Lewis

    Ummm... OK, so... What if we call it a "veil" instead? Aren't veils kosher in Christianity?

    1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      How about calling it a beauty treatment, on some people it just might actually improve their looks.

  1. Vincent Bello's Avatar Vincent Bello

    The least use of the senses is that of "common sense" coupled with the inability to think rationally. Belief without reasoning is not faith.

  1. Lynn Katz's Avatar Lynn Katz

    When G-d made us in his image, he wasn't referring to our physical beings but rather our spiritual one. Wearing a mask is not against G-d's will. In fact, taking care of ourselves by wearing the mask, staying healthy and staying safe honors His very creation. Using religion as an excuse to not wear a mask is akin to a childish tantrum when not getting your way. People are unhappy and stressed over this virus and that's understandable. But if everyone banded together and stayed safe, this virus would be out of our lives faster. G-d made us intelligent beings. We need to use the brain we were given to do the right thing for ourselves and society. If everyone keeps doing their own thing then this virus will be far deadlier and last longer in society than it needs to be. G-d can't take this virus away but He did give us the ability to do the right thing until either a vaccine comes out or the virus will play itself out by decimating the world population.

  1. Albert A Hernandez's Avatar Albert A Hernandez

    Science is NOT absolute. Although very valuable, most of it is theory and speculation. The wearing of a mask will no more save you than a simple aspirin will cure you of cancer. A virus will attack you no matter what you do. The social distancing, stay at home, and wearing a mask, these are frivolous measures that only interfere with your lifestyle. You yourself cannot fight a virus, nor can all those doctors and nurses trying to save your life. You cannot defeat it. You can only survive it. If you are healthy enough, your immune system will help you survive it. But if you're fat, weigh 300 pounds, smoke 3 packs a day, eat like a hog, and do not exercise, you're already sick; you will not survive a virus attack. This is what the "experts" don't tell you because they don't want to offend anyone. Viruses wear themselves out. Unfortunately, in the process, they claim many lives, and there is nothing we can do about that. As for a vaccine, I wouldn't count too much on it. Not even the regular FLU vaccine works very well; thousands still die from the FLU. A virus is NOT a cold, it's not a tummy-ache, it's not a headache, it's not a toothache. It's a "VIRUS." It can "kill" you. You can only hope, and PRAY, you don't come down with it.

    A. A. HERNANDEZ, Ph. D., B. Sc.

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      So how do you explain the increasing numbers of people ages 20-40 who have become sick, hospitalized and yes died with no underlying conditions? You are back in January-February when the CDC was way behind their knowledge base compared to South Korea, which has a much better health care system than we do.

      1. Albert A Hernandez's Avatar Albert A Hernandez

        Simple. Their "immune systems" were not strong enough. You can be young and feel strong but if you are not healthy enough, a virus will kill you, especially one of this strength. Many of these hospitalizations are unnecessary. People are showing up with symptoms of a flu. This was on CNN this morning. That's why hospitals are supposedly overwhelmed. I've worked in hospitals, I know how they do things. But Fauci, Gupta, Birx, and Cuomo want to shut down the whole country based on the "numbers." Since this whole charade started, I've been out and about, went to a few restaurants and stores (while they were open). I do not feel any symptoms. My wife recently got tested for the virus, it was negative. Not everyone is going to get sick, many have recovered. But they don't tell you that, they focus on the negative rather than the positive. I am just trying to help so that people are not deceived. Another shutdown of our businesses will be worse than the "virus." In fact, the ones I've just mentioned, they want a complete "lockdown" of our country. If they get their way, millions more will lose their jobs and we will have economic chaos. Economists are saying that, not me. But I concur. Unfortunately, people will believe what they want to believe. Take care.

        1. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

          What was your degree subject in, and likewise, what was your doctoral field of study in? Did you buy them online?

          1. Albert A Hernandez's Avatar Albert A Hernandez

            Glad you asked. Thank you.

            Ph. D., Philosophy/Minor in Psychology (2019) Doctor of Business Admin./Specialization: Health Care Administration, Magna Cum Laude (1998) Doctor of Divinity (1994), Ordained-Certified Minister/Theologian M. A. in Biblical Studies B. Sc., Mgmt/Health Care, Magna Cum Laude (1985) Associate's in Liberal Arts (1982)

            SCHOOLS: Southern Cal Univ,, Park College, American Inst. Holistic Theology, El Paso Community College, Christian College & Seminary

            EMPLOYMENT: Federal 36 years (retired)

            U.S. Navy Hospital Corpsman (1965-78): 3 naval schools all in health care Vietnam veteran (combat medic-1966-67)

            I don't use online courses. They're for the lazy and the stupid. What are your credentials?

            1. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

              I think that you may as well have done the online courses and saved some money.

              I did wonder what medical qualifications, and can see that you are no more qualified than any else here to give an authoratitive opinion.

              You can believe whatever you wish to, but wearing a mask, even though many don't protect the wearer, will at least reduce the chance of you passing on an infection, if you have one.

              Even if it didn't do anything, at least people will feel safer, and protected, psychologically.

              That's the least that anyone can do.

      2. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

        It's because they're too busy getting together to 'bend the knee, whilst ignoring social - distancing ', or wearing masks that would protect others from them, if they had the virus.

        It would appear that, in the UK, when it was announced that the younger generations were better able to resist the virus, due to a stronger immune system, they started meeting in large numbers, ignoring social distancing, and their social responsibilities.

        They then go home and put their entire families at risk of death. That is not just the height of immature selfishness, it is also criminal negligence, which warrants a life sentence.

        That is the only fitting sentence for someone who takes a life in such selfish circumstances.

    2. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      As long as you're on deserted and desolated Island, out in the middle of the Pacific ocean with absolute zero contact with any life form, that would be able to migrate off the Island. Then You can only hope, and PRAY all you want while romp naked to your heart desire. However my life and the life of anyone else, overrides your right to not have your lifestyle interfere with.

  1. Shawn Conan Scott's Avatar Shawn Conan Scott

    Does God not say that we should follow the laws of BOTH God and man?

    Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."

    I think this quote best says what the spirit of the word of God teaches us - "Hiding salvation is worse than hiding the cure to Covid-19! The Devil hides salvation because he is evil, but a believer should share salvation. In a world using masks to extend and save their physical live, do not mask salvation that can save their spiritual life! Our Christianity must spiritually unmask even if we mask our natural body. God left us here to shine, and if we do not, who will?" – Pastor Seth Buckner, pastor of Heritage Baptist Church, in Jefferson, from an opinion piece of his found at https://www.marshallnewsmessenger.com/religion/what-the-bible-says-about-wearing-masks/article_25c49a82-8bf9-11ea-8542-a7cccc045339.html.

    Just my 2 drachmas worth.

    1. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

      The majority of masks being worn do not protect the user, but it protects others from the virus if you have Covid-19 and you cough or sneeze.

      So, wearing a mask is a magnanimous gesture, but sadly there are too many ignorant people who put their pride before looking out for their fellow man

  1. Rudolph Guerrero's Avatar Rudolph Guerrero

    Jesus died for us on cross. Most of all he loved us unconditionally no matter our sins or faults. Jesus informed us, checked on us, protected us, most of all taught us to never fear, have faith, hope, and love. Jesus always led by example and his word. Jesus would have worn the mask to calm the fears of his people.

  1. Doug A Powell's Avatar Doug A Powell

    The message from public health officials is clear: wear a mask to help protect yourself and others from coronavirus. THis is deception no it's not clear and regarldess were to not be in this world or not of. Jesus' teachings were clear this world is temporal and goes away. We're only here for a short time and were gone. We're to not be cemented to the world. For if your of the world the world will know and like you. If your not of the world the world will hate you because of me. Toil not for what your going to eat or wear be ye not comformed to this world for God knows what you need. If the birds don't turn and toil just what and how they will eat and yet are fed how much more God will take care of you and feed you. Science was taught fromt the fallen angels as per the Book of Enoch so anythign tthey say is false. Science says there is no God so therefore in the litteral sense makes them an Antichrist. For Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. The world is using false statements like the one I pasted from the begining of the article to decieve and kill peoples souls. We have an Immortal soul and if we are decieved by the devil and take the mark we will lose that immortal soul. Maybe not now but in the final judgement not only will our body die but our soul will die as well. As Revelations says he decieved the whole world and has and is causeing all who don't worship his image as in law and Govt the beast/ will or should die. The message from public health officials is clear: wear a mask to help protect yourself and others from coronavirus, statement is part of that deception an al who follow that lie will parish in the final Judgement.

    1. Philip Joseph Ryan's Avatar Philip Joseph Ryan

      So, just to be clear, which verses in the Bible mention the requirement that the face should never be covered up?

      How can you be sure that it isn't you that isn't being deceived by Satan, and that it is you that will suffer the torment of hell fire, whilst demons stab your backside with pitchforks?

      1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

        Maybe he enjoy getting stab his backside with pitchforks by demons.

      2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        Satan really loves you, Phil. I bet you've never given him a chance to prove it.

  1. Kim Sorensen's Avatar Kim Sorensen

    Romans 12:18

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      What is the purpose of stating chapter and verse of an old book of myth and tales written by men? I might as well throw out there a passage from a Harry Potter book.

      🦁❤️

  1. Lisa Lee Kohler's Avatar Lisa Lee Kohler

    Masks are just the newest tool , on a long list of many, being used to divide us! We need to embrace each others differences and allow each other to exercise our free will. Follow what you believe to be right and true for you, until it no longer is, and then be willing to change. When we allow ourselves to be divided we are weak. We must unite to be strong. Not thru control, but acceptance. There is science to support just about anything. So be true to YOU !

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    It sounds like Lisa wants to go around kissing everyone. What else could she mean be masks are dividing us? It's not masks, but social distancing that's dividing us, and rightfully so. Masks keep us from smelling bad breath, and seeing knarly teeth, which nobody ever cared to do. I never hear anyone talking about that, but it's true. What is the point or purpose in embracing others, except at N.A. meetings? I get a lot more out of this blog than any meeting I ever went to, and I'm not about to hug my Android phone.

    1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      Have you tried setting your Android phone on vibrate? Carl Bernard Elfstrom

  1. Ferdinand Tauscheck's Avatar Ferdinand Tauscheck

    There are Scientific Beliefs and Religeous Beliefs. Evolution vs Creation. The Big Bang - Where did the initial substances come from that caused it? We all have questions and we all want answers. I beleive in GOD. I do also see that masks help calm people that are unsure, confused and uneducated. I would suggest wearing one ... Please ALL be Safe and take care of yourself and others. Do on to others as you would have them do on to you.

  1. Cathrine Elizabeth Silver's Avatar Cathrine Elizabeth Silver

    Jesus didn't have to contend with TSA for the last 20 years, which was only temporary, remember? The face mask thing seems to be a technique to dehumanize and control under the auspicious of being "kept save" when in reality, they are at BEST 20% effective. It certainly has helped to separate everyone even more! People in fear will gladly line up to get a vaccine--which uses mouse brain tissue and causes retrovirus which disrupt the DNA, or human genome--which in turn makes a percentage of the population very sick. Bill Gates is also in favor of Digital ID. How would Jesus respond to that? And, how did Fauci and Gates know there was a pandemic coming--why were they so certain? It had been channeled in the past that the level of consciousness do not support a pandemic--unless, P.S. It was grown in the lab! Could this backfire, with many of the souls leaving coming back recalibrated to the earth's new higher vibration? Ready to assist the Light? All disease is low conscious vibration. The flu represents being "stuck and confined." The Master of Love would have no judgment and allow people of follow their own innate guidance! Fear dims our divine light and clouds our thinking . . . . call on the divine inside to feel your magnificence. Raise your consciousness and allow your self-worth to bloom. Then there will be no need for masks, gloves or FEAR! It would make Jesus proud!

    1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      Cathrine Silver, HC, AADP, is a Certified Holistic Health Coach I have checked out your web page

      I really don't know enough about about holistic medicine to say anything positive or negative about it. It is true your state of mind can and does affect your mental and bodily health and there are some plants and herbs, that we haven't really study discover yet that may have medicinal properties. But for now I think I will stick with common sense and medical science. I will keep wearing a mask, social distancing, stay home and limit my social interaction and only go out when necessary. And Yes I hate wearing a mask and being confine, but it better to be safe then sorry.

    2. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      Store employees are not allowed to touch anyone, you may block him/ her, but do not touch if somebody is argumentative, aggressive or you might think or know is stealing something, you may watch and report to a salary management. BUT DO NOT TOUCH EVER, it for safety and liability reasons. You could be injured, sued, or charged with assault or all three.

  1. Albert A Hernandez's Avatar Albert A Hernandez

    Here's a question that was asked some time ago on CNN. It involves the wearing of masks:

    "Is a universal quarantine worth the costs it imposes on the ECONOMY, COMMUNITY, and individual MENTAL and PHYSICAL HEALTH?" In other words, is the CURE worse than the DISEASE?

    What would be YOUR answer?

    1. Anisahoni's Avatar Anisahoni

      One cannot be physically healthy if they are dying and dead.

    2. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      Bad analogy "Is a universal quarantine" "In other words, is the CURE worse than the DISEASE?" Since the quarantine is a preventive measure and not a cure.

    3. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      Yes, some smart people lack common sense. Why?

      Intelligent people often override common sense with their considerable brain power — but this isn’t always a good thing.

      Smart people think in situations where they should feel, like in relationships. They may avoid the correct response because it doesn’t seem rational when we all know that life isn’t always rational.

      Why the Intelligent Choice Isn’t Always the Smart One:

      Intelligent people, however, have a tendency to overapply their analytical and logical reasoning abilities derived from their general intelligence incorrectly to such evolutionarily familiar domains and, as a result, get things wrong. In other words, liberals and other intelligent people lack common sense because their general intelligence overrides it. They think in situations where they are supposed to feel. In evolutionarily familiar domains such as interpersonal relationships, feeling usually leads to correct solutions whereas thinking does not.

      This same tendency to rely on superior mental power also trips up smart people when the pressure is on. They’re more likely to choke under pressure. Being very smart can even hamper creativity.

      Research shown that high IQ improves people’s ability to defend their own position but doesn’t have any effect on ability to better understand the other side’s position.

      So smart people are better at arguing their own views but they’re not necessarily better at understanding where others are coming from.

  1. Richard Gunther Robb's Avatar Richard Gunther Robb

    Just to play "satin's" advocate.... New International Version "Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt, cover the lower part of their face and cry out, 'Unclean! Unclean!' Sure, they were talking about leprosy, but I have to wonder how many today would respond to not getting their hair done and having to cover their face.

    1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      Really satin has advocate, what about cotton, wool, silk and all the other natural and unnatural fabrics. Do they have a advocate as well?

    2. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      You sound like you're describing me on a good day, Gunther. And guess how often I take a bath. I think the smell of Limburger cheese is very becoming. I hope they helps. However, I seriously doubt that I'll ever contact leprosy, I've only had the flu twice as an adult, even though I've never had the flu shot, and I seriously doubt that I will ever get covid-19, but someday I will die nevertheless, for all dogs have their day.

  1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

    Store employees are not allowed to touch anyone, you may block him/ her, but do not touch if somebody is argumentative, aggressive or you might think or know is stealing something, you may watch and report to a salary management. BUT DO NOT TOUCH EVER, it for safety and liability reasons. You could be injured, sued, or charged with assault or all three.

    And by the way the same rules apply to the customers as well. Stores WILL NOT TOLERATE customers that are rude, disrespectful, aggressive and bully the employees.You can be sued and charged with assault as well. The saying that the customer is always right is total B.S. the customer is NOT always right. You DO NOT have the right to come in the store a sense of entitlement and preferential treatment. YOU ARE NOT the only customer. Store employees are often understaffed, under paid and overworked. They will serve you the best that they are able to, no more no less. The store had the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason as long as they do not discriminate.

  1. James Orin Cronk Jr's Avatar James Orin Cronk Jr

    The book of Leviticus is very clear about the use of quarantine procedures for the containing of contagious diseases. There should be no problem amongst Christians for wearing a mask.

    1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

      The book of Leviticus also makes good rolling papers. Just saying.

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    I wonder if they've noticed how much more we've commented on this article than the next two. It might be a hint that we want something different. Carry on, my wayward son. There will be peace when you are done. Lay your weary head to rest, and don't you cry no more. Don't you cry no more.

    1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

      "Carry On Wayward Son" by Kansas, I love that song as a teenager and I still love it today.

      1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

        I agree T Kosse, but the second song, following that one, on the Kansas CD I currently own, I like even better: Dust In The Wind. All we are is dust in the wind.

        1. T Kosse`'s Avatar T Kosse`

          Yeah I love that one as well.

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    Of course, regardless of the original topic we pretty much end up talking about other things anyway, just like in A.A. and N.A. meetings, which similar to this, don't seem like much more than social blogs, with a spiritual twist. Atleast we don't talk about imaginary personal problems on this blog, and arent constantly trying to out do what the previous person said, like they too often do in those goddam, worthless meetings that I wasted my time attending, for thirty six years!!! Trust me, even the silliest topics they give us to talk about on this blog are a lot better than what they talk about in those meetings.

  1. John P Maher's Avatar John P Maher

    I DO NOT KNOW WHAT GOD THINKs of MASKs but WE NEED to WEAR THEM and it MAKES BANK TELLERS NERVOUS, LEAVE REVENGE to the LORD !!!

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    As long as the metal detectors aren't set off by your surgical hardware (like at airports) you should do fine at the banks. I guess you could call me a cyborg. I have to be frisked before every flight..

  1. Carl Bernard Elfstrom's Avatar Carl Bernard Elfstrom

    I don't care what God thinks about it. I wear masks because of what I think about it. If I find out God thinks it's wrong for me, I'll just get another god. There are plenty of them to choose from. I'm not about to follow the dictates of a negative, destructive god!

  1. Mark Bell's Avatar Mark Bell

    No! Nor has our Church ever stopped meeting, singing, or worshiping in any way. We have not had one illness at all. Either you trust the Lord, or you don’t, it is that simple.

  1. Susan Gerson's Avatar Susan Gerson

    My God and Goddess are always prevalent in my life and bring me and my son much happiness. Wearing a mask should be a choice. Respecting others' personal space should be natural. Yes, the virus is real, but so is the elevated fearmongering and misinformation. My autistic son and I both have very real sensory issues with having something covering our nose and mouth. That is the way we were MADE by the Divine. So, if we are forced to wear masks, who's actually the ones being caused harm???

  1. Richard Lee Cornell's Avatar Richard Lee Cornell

    If this plague was Ebola would these religious people also not wear a mask. Small Pox has a rash in two days. It is clearly visible. Measles is another good one.
    Wonder how many people will enter a House of Worship with a person who is broken out with splashes of red on their face. Not many. While this virus is not visible it can kill those over the age of 60 and those with health problems. Not wearing a mask might be a religious thing, by dying foolishly for no other reason then pride is stupid. If I was God. You would not be welcome in Heaven. Go to the other place where even there you might not be welcome.

  1. John Stevens's Avatar John Stevens

    As a PhD qualified and experienced medical research scientist I would like to point out that, while the OP's wording is not technically accurate, his point is very valid.

    Many research studies, over 40 plus years, have all found that even N95 respirators have no ability to stop virus particles, which are many times smaller than the holes in the filter material.You will notice that if you look closely at the box your mask came from, it will likely be marked with a small print warning that these masks do not protect from virus's. Masks are worn by surgeons, doctors and other medical professionals to prevent larger 'bodily fluid' particles, such as puss, mucus or blood, from entering the surgeons mouth during surgery, or dropping from the surgeon into the patients open wound. The HEPA air filtration systems in operating theaters are what provide a degree of protection at a viral particle level, not surgical masks. The official public health powers to be eg CDC, WHO, Fauci, have all placed information on their websites, and/or made statements that communicate the point clearly that masks are unable to actually stop virus's. I advise everyone to employ good research practices, such as going to the source ie.actual unedited video footage of interviews, delving into the organizations websites beyond their front pages, reading the full scientific papers for yourself to determine if studies have used proper scientific method, data collection and data analysis, and sourcing any references relied upon: not relying on the media to convey 'facts' to you. Likewise I encourage you to employ the same research principles for yourself to explore further the points I raise here. Proper scientific research and the ability to effectively evaluate research papers involves a skill set that only those who have completed higher degrees in research adequately posses. So if that's not you then it's wise to look at what appropriately qualified 'Independent' scientists (ie. those possessing a PhD in the field in question and not working for the government or funded by government or pharmaceutical grants) have to say.

  1. Brian LaVerne Starkweather's Avatar Brian LaVerne Starkweather

    It is said in some versions of the Bible that we should not attempt to extend our lives here because it is denying the next. plus what John S said. Plus all agencies are apostates working against nature and humanity.

  1. Rev. Jonathan Peebles's Avatar Rev. Jonathan Peebles

    The bible says "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment." MEANING DEATH bu corona virus most likely

    Romans 13:1-7

  1. Christian's Avatar Christian

    Put your Faith in GOD - not paper idolatry.

    ALL FLESH WILL DIE.

    But after death, are your Ready ?

    I pray to see you and yours in Heaven with all of us believers too !

    ASK Jesus into your Heart & Mind... Ask Jesus to please be the Lord of your Life... to Save you, Bless you, give you Grace, and Life Eternal.

    Masks won't protect your fallen flawed flesh from the Second Death and eternal damnation... OPEN YOUR CHURCH, wear it if you wish, masks can't save you. So, Sing your Praise to the Lord !

    REPENT ! Turn to Jesus, and LIVE !

  1. Mary Jo Suhrer's Avatar Mary Jo Suhrer

    People need to set their foolish pride aside and wear the mask! If we do not stop teaching our children that it is okay to show disrespect, and to disregard the well-being of others we are doomed! I was told to just die now and save everyone else the trouble! Is that how our society is going? Shameful!!!! Yes, God would wear a mask to properly lead by example! "Dear God, please help guide us in the right path to our salvation! We seem to have forgotten the way!" Amen.

  1. Reverend Andrew's Avatar Reverend Andrew

    If you have to Live by what is written in the Bible . Does the Bible not sat to OBEY the law of the land? and if for the time being the law of the land is saying you need to wear as mask then yes you need to wear a mask and if this is the word of GOD the I am 100% sure his son Jesus would put a mask on.

  1. Patricia Emily Baker Murphy's Avatar Patricia Emily Baker Murphy

    As others have noted: wearing a seat belt, washing your hands after going to the bathroom, and cleaning food prep surfaces & equipment are all things that a majority of folks do out of habit to keep themselves and others safe. Wearing a face mask (and possibly eye protection) is merely a new habit that we are incorporating into our lives to keep ourselves and others a bit more safe from consequences we want to avoid. Being a positive and caring individual is what our religions have taught us to be, for the good of all.

  1. Bernie James Rocheleau's Avatar Bernie James Rocheleau

    Not only "would" Jesus wear a mask, he, in fact did, very often. In desert cultures, especially in the Middle East, the people wore head scarves frequently to keep the sand and dust out of their face. It was not just Muslims who wore them, Mary wore one, Joseph did and so did Jesus. In fact Muslim women today wear the hijab in honor of their Judeo-Christian ancestors, including Mary. It was extremely common and it is exactly the same thing as wearing a mask today for a purpose such as protecting yourself from outside germs and viruses.

  1. Adele Louise Nieto's Avatar Adele Louise Nieto

    First, I want to say I hope everyone had a restful and peaceful Holiday Season. I have read, and reread many blogs, commentaries, and all kinds of opinions regarding face-masks. And then, I recall G.K. Chesterson's "The Million Masks of God" who praised plain folks for their common sense, common decency, and their humble institutions: hearth and home, the family, the church, and the pub. The underlying meaning (IMHO) is that we all play a role, wearing a mask called the personality, whilst on this journey called life. Wearing a mask over another mask can never hide what our true nature is, and will always be, the One Self masquerading as the multitude.

  1. Laurel Lee Newman-Curry's Avatar Laurel Lee Newman-Curry

    I did not read all responses, but did not see what is searchable---viruses are around 1 micron in size--even the n95 masks only filter 3 micron size --and good for two wearing to do that..... Maybe the face shields would do some good-but best to stay healthy. Keep immune system maxed out-keep alkalized-- and go outside and breathe and get some exercise for body and spirit.

    Rev. Laurel

  1. Cynthia B. Adwell's Avatar Cynthia B. Adwell

    Would God/Jesus wear a mask? Yes, I believe they would. Yes, we were created by Him. And yes, it's beautiful. But what if you catch this COVID19 virus? We heard a dear friend lay in his hospital bed. He was screaming in pain. The doctor finally, after two days, put him in an induced coma, as that was the only way to relieve his agony. He was only in his 30's. He died 10 days later. He refused to wear a mask. But lets get back to God. See He made us. He gave us a brain so that we could learn. We could focus on family and friends. He gave us sympathy, empathy. And He gave us brains to learn things on our own. Like this virus. It is my great believe that God would want us to be actively trying to stop the disease. See, those brains He gave us, can also be doctors, and research scientists. Together they found that if only every one would wear a mask, practice social distancing, and stay home for 2 weeks, that we could conquer it. God gave them the brain to learn how to stop it. And they have far surpassed it, they made a vaccine. Now, with all that these people have done, with their God given brain, don't you think He gave them the ability to stop it, and we should gratefully, before God, accept it by wearing a mask when asked. So I trust in these great men and women, and I will do most things they tell me to, it will stop the virus in its tracks.

  1. David Ciambrone's Avatar David Ciambrone

    Not wearing a mask and claiming god said you don't have to do it is STUPID. Your god (which ever flavor you like) is not going to protect you...period. You wear the mask or take a huge chance of getting the virus and/or giving it to someone else. Religion should not take precedence over using good sense and listening and doing what science tells you to do to protect yourself and others.

    any preacher who says do not wear a mask and god will protect you needs to be fired.

  1. Michael S Cope's Avatar Michael S Cope

    God would say .. ( i believe) Live clean Eat clean

  1. Roger's Avatar Roger

    The Bible points out that if you see someone doing wrong it is our responsibility to let them know they are doing wrong. It’s not up to us to make them change their ways

  1. Norma Battes's Avatar Norma Battes

    I feel they should go into an ICU ward without a mask and preach their gospel to the patients - without their masks. Then go home to their families and share their Godly deeds to everyone. Also have a medical directive for themselves and their children that any surgeries in the future are to be done without masks for medical staff. Hand washing optional.

  1. Carl A. Hankins's Avatar Carl A. Hankins

    Hello. I believe the mask is a good idea. The reasons being God said be clean as I am so clean. This means to wash and keep yourself presentable. The mask can be considered an extension of a nurse or doctor. You are presenting yourself as helping others. We can't tell at this time if it's a little over done or is really making a difference. But don't do it for the government Do it for his obedience and love for you and your families.

  1. Jayson James Borey's Avatar Jayson James Borey

    I was forced to wear a mask or I wouldn't be able to get on my bus

    Remember your god loves you 💕💕

  1. Jayson James Borey's Avatar Jayson James Borey

    God loves you

  1. Jayson James Borey's Avatar Jayson James Borey

    Agreed with julia

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