A Memphis pastor famous for his use of expletives

Pastor Thaddeus Matthews has embraced his controversial role as “the cussing pastor.”


A controversial broadcaster-turned-pastor is cussing his way to online notoriety, and he “doesn’t give a damn” what traditional Christians might think about it. Pastor Thaddeus Matthews of Naked Truth Liberation and Empowerment Ministries in Memphis, Tennessee, has unapologetically proclaimed himself “the cussing pastor.”

While his daily online videos generally draw viewers in the hundreds, Matthews has recently been made famous by one particularly popular clip – a profanity-laced Facebook video in which he orders women to refuse sex to deadbeat men who won’t get a job. The clip has been widely shared online and recently eclipsed one million views:

*WARNING: Video contains explicit language*

Fishing for Followers

Joining the ranks of a growing number of today’s outspoken politicians and other public figures, Matthews refuses to apologize for his crassness. In fact, he embraces it. And although it might seem a bit outrageous and extreme, Matthews insists there is a method behind the madness.

“I’m a fisher of men,” he explains. “I go to people on their level. And you have to get past the cussing to get the message. The cussing has drawn the attention of millions around the country. You can’t clean a fish until you catch that fish. And what the cussing does, it attracts you to who I am and then I draw you in with a message and the message is that God wants you to have a prosperous life.”

One thing is clear: the strategy seems to be working. Buoyed by his online popularity, Matthews is planning to take his controversial message to the people come October in what he’s calling “The Bullsh*t From the Pulpit Tour.”

 

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Not Your Grandmother’s Church

Unsurprisingly, Matthews has drawn the ire of more traditional and conservative religious circles. Critics ask how a so-called “man of God” could resort to such cheap (and offensive) tricks to gain followers. But Matthews has embraced this controversial identity.

“One of my slogans at this particular building (ministry) is that this ain’t your grandmomma’s church,” he told The Christian Post in a recent interview. “I don’t call people from my pulpit motherf****r. But I don’t have a problem with the word. I’m not traditional even though I’ve been in the ministry since I was a teenager and I’m 61 years old. I walked away from the church because of the bullsh*t that comes from the pulpit.”

A Deeper Message?

Beyond the expletives and attention-grabbing quotes, there does seem to be something of substance in the message of “the cussing pastor.” Matthews is vehemently opposed to the idea of “prosperity gospel” and the ultra-rich pastors who live lavishly while their congregations struggle in poverty. In his words:

“We’re spending too much time talking about tithes and offerings but not talking about the needs of people in society. If we’re preaching in a church that God will bring bread for you when you’re hungry and all the damn folk in the church is hungry, the message is not going forth if only the pastor looks wealthy and only the pastor is looking good and driving good.”

There are many who would agree with this message. However, they might also disapprove of the shock-jock tactics used to spread it. Where do you stand?

When it comes to broadcasting new ideas, do the ends justify the means?

 

71 comments

  1. Rev. Rene. says:

    My thoughts are thus: Whenever you enter the leadership role, you set an example. Does anybody think this is the right example for his congregation, young and old??? Sure, sometimes you need to grab the elephant by the ears to get a response, get your message through, but is this the way??? People are generally much less stupid than other people tend to take them for, and this is why I personally would not do this, as the next step might be “The Murdering Pastor”! What an example for our future! Shame on him for thinking this is OK, let us hope his youngsters are not following this.

    1. R. Lyle Knight says:

      Not the way I would do it put who am I to throw stones although think the only thing you get by grabbing elephant by the ears is stomped into the pavement lol however I understand what you meant I wonder how he would feel if he heard one of his young people and I m talking 3.4.5 years talking like that

      1. JasonDBender says:

        Oh boo fracking hoo! … kids have always used filthy language outside of earshot of adults and they always will… So the F.UCK? (would have used the actual motherF,ucking F word but the pansy a$$ cun.ts who run this shjt hole of a blog are a bunch of lil’ precious coc.ksuc,king snowflakes) as are the likes of you.

        1. power to the people says:

          Poor poor JDB. Makes a post with a bunch of “shocking words” then it won’t post. Makes a new post with more “shocking words” with some periods to get around the auto mods.

          If it’s such a horrible blog, why do you keep coming here?

          Oh, I remember, you’re a lonely troll and nobody wants to be your friend, so you troll the web with your impotent anger.

          Ironic avatar BTW. lol.

        2. R. Lyle knight says:

          Jason
          Sticks and stones those who feel the need to resort to petty name calling and rudeness to get their point across are beneath notice

          I said is not the way I would do it that wasn’t in no was a critazism of his method and the second part comment stems for little kids listening and observing the actions of adults many parents have been imbarassed when there children’s mouth out raced their little minds and they blurt out in public something they have heard one of the adults in thirst lives
          Personally I have never thought shouting fire and damnation got the point across and only served to frighten people obedance

          1. WILLIAM BAKER says:

            HOW LONG HAV EYOU BEEN PREACHING?

        3. Bobby says:

          I’ll pray for you.

          1. Jason D Bender says:

            Golly gee wiz mister, thank you kindly.

          2. Willow says:

            He’s the devil in disguise praying for him won’t help!

          3. Jason D Bender says:

            Disguises? I don’t need no stinkin’ disguises!

        4. Willow says:

          You have such class NOT!

          1. Jason says:

            Golly Jee Wiz, Willow! That was one powerful argument/comment there! You sure done showed me the error of my ways!

          2. Willow says:

            You’re not worth it!

      2. David Tolly says:

        In this day and age, there is a lot of noise coming from all kinds of public forums. You can’t convey your message if you can’t be heard. There is some merit to using the common language used everyday at work, at play, on the streets, at home, on Facebook and Twitter. That means you’re going to use “fuck”, “damn”, and “bullshit” as adjectives, adverbs, and expletives. We’re used to it. A large percentage of Facebook members use these words regularly as part of their dialogue. The the saccharine-speak from the pulpit should be abolished and the message conveyed in ways that draw attention and cause people to listen.

    2. Michelle Teeter says:

      What is wrong with what he is saying? Has he said one thing that was wrong? No he just uses words some people deem bad.

      1. Daniel says:

        I can’t help but think that people who make a big deal about vocabulary used are “ choking on a gnat and swallowing a camel”. Words are just a vehicle to express something and sometimes there’s no other adjective that gets the point across except a “cuss” word. I really don’t think God gives a s.h.i.t. About the choice of words used. Especially if they’re used to reach people in their 6-days-of-the-week mentality and not dressed up in the sudsy-go-to-meeting pretense.

    3. Dr. Daniel R Thomas Ph.D. says:

      The cussing minister

      A controversial broadcaster-turned-pastor is cussing his way to online notoriety, and he “doesn’t give a damn” what traditional Christians might think about it. Pastor Thaddeus Matthews of Naked Truth Liberation and Empowerment Ministries in Memphis, Tennessee, has unapologetically proclaimed himself “the cussing pastor.”

      While his daily online videos generally draw viewers in the hundreds, Matthews has recently been made famous by one particularly popular clip – a profanity-laced Facebook video in which he orders women to refuse sex to deadbeat men who won’t get a job. The clip has been widely shared online and recently eclipsed one million views:

      *WARNING: Video contains explicit language*

      Fishing for Followers

      Joining the ranks of a growing number of today’s outspoken politicians and other public figures, Matthews refuses to apologize for his crassness. In fact, he embraces it. And although it might seem a bit outrageous and extreme, Matthews insists there is a method behind the madness.

      “I’m a fisher of men,” he explains. “I go to people on their level. And you have to get past the cussing to get the message. The cussing has drawn the attention of millions around the country. You can’t clean a fish until you catch that fish. And what the cussing does, it attracts you to who I am and then I draw you in with a message and the message is that God wants you to have a prosperous life.”

      One thing is clear: the strategy seems to be working. Buoyed by his online popularity, Matthews is planning to take his controversial message to the people come October in what he’s calling “The Bullsh*t From the Pulpit Tour.”

      One of my slogans at this particular building (ministry) is that this ain’t your grandmomma’s church,” he told The Christian Post in a recent interview. “I don’t call people from my pulpit motherf****r. But I don’t have a problem with the word. I’m not traditional even though I’ve been in the ministry since I was a teenager and I’m 61 years old. I walked away from the church because of the bullsh*t that comes from the pulpit.”

      1 Corinthians 9:19-27 NASBS
      For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I may win more. [20] To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; [21] to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law. [22] To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some. [23] I do all things for the sake of the gospel, so that I may become a fellow partaker of it. [24] Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win. [25] Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. [26] Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim; I box in such a way, as not beating the air; [27] but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.

      Colossians 1:9-12 NASBS
      For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, [10] so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; [11] strengthened with all power, according to His glorious might, for the attaining of all steadfastness and patience; joyously [12] giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light.

      We are called to know and spread the Will of the Lord to man. And we are to do it in a manner worthy of that calling. And to do so I. A way that does not disqualify us from that calling. So to carry this man’s philosophy to the end, to understand one who murders, we too must murder. To know evil we must become evil ourselves? I think not. There is a clear line between living in darkness and living in the light.

      If we see the light dimmly in the distance, then we know we are in the dark. We might be heading in the right direction, but we are still in the dark.

      John 3:19 NASBS
      This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.

      Yes, Jesus Himself went to the sinner. He said that the doctor goes where there are the sick, because that is where he is needed. But the doctor does not beco.e sick to street the sick. In fact, he armours himself against the very illness that he is there to do battle with.

      So no. I do not agree with this man’s approach to salvation. When the apostles were but still fisherman, and they dragged their catch gets into their boats, they separated the good fish from the bad. Jesus came and made them fishers of men. They too separated the good from the bad. Not by discarding the bad into trash heaps, but changing them into good men.

      1 Corinthians 6:11 NASBS
      Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

      1. Rev Will says:

        Ephesians 5 New International Version (NIV)
        5 1 Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children 2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

        3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.[a] 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

        8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) 10 and find out what pleases the Lord. 11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. 14 This is why it is said:

        “Wake up, sleeper,
        rise from the dead,
        and Christ will shine on you.”

        15 Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, 16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. 18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, 20 always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

        1. Jason D Bender says:

          So what, you can pull some shyte out of your At o justify just about anything, including Nazism. I will Goose-step our Glorious Feurher into the White House over your prudish corpse a million times begore I would serve a lil’ weenie like you – all afraid of a few damn cuss words.

    4. The Rev. Robert Barker says:

      It’s ONLY words. Let the prudes be offended. Cursing is not immoral. So what!!

      1. William says:

        I am 100% sure Jesus would be offended and tell him that is not the way… In fact Ephesians 5 says all we need to know on the subject.

        1. Jason D Bender says:

          I am 100 percent sure you do not have the slightest bit of a logical, rational, fact based reason to have the theory that you do. you pulled that opinion 99.96% out of your A…

      2. Maria says:

        I am not in any way shape or form a prude. But he doesn’t have to use such disgusting language to get his point across!

    5. Allen Walker says:

      He knows who he is preaching to. And when you know your audience you have to speak in their language. Using words that help them to see what God wants them to do with their lives. As long as he is not using God’s name in vain all the other words are just that words.

      1. Willow says:

        I understand where you’re coming from. But I still feel that he should lead by example and teach his audience some class. It’s lke two wrongs don’t make a right. Children and adults also have access to his preaching. What is that telling them? Nothing good that’s for sure.

    6. Billy Stroud says:

      No this is an awful example of what a pastor should be doing on the pulpit! Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. this man is clearly defiled and should be removed from his position until such time he can act and speak accordingly. I would not want my children to hear this trash and I would hope no one else in the Church would condone this behavior..

      1. Jason D Bender says:

        People like you make me miss the days when torturing your kind to death was considered an arena sport !

      2. Willow says:

        Thank you Billy…well said!

    7. Daniel says:

      Instead of using this Sunday GoToMeeting pretense, this guy uses language that relates to people the other six days of the week. I can’t help but think that people who have such a problem with the choice of vocabulary are “choking on a Knat While swallowing a camel”. I really don’t think that God cares over the language used so long as the heart is in the right place. Words are simply a vehicle to convey a message. If the words chosen help some people here a message that they would not hear If different words were used, Then at least more people are hearing the message.

  2. Jim says:

    LOL, this is not what I would consider a minister but hey his message is actually a good one. He just has a very crude way of portraying it.

  3. Lori says:

    Interesting. It is one way to connect with many people, especially those that speak the same language. I went to a Pagan Church in CT for awhile. The language there could get pretty raw at times, but it didn’t bother me. Fowl language has always been a forbidden thing in churches, but if the people can get over it, who cares. It’s one more barrier that should be broken. It really doesn’t harm anyone, other than the usual gasp and offended looks from the righteous folk. Once the barrier comes down and the language is accepted we can move on to more important things, and the people that use it all the time don’t have to worry about what they say.

    1. Jason D Bender says:

      but, Lori, the thing is, you are innately smart, are educated and well read, have and use common sense, have self awareness and a nose for detecting bs… arguing with you is unfair

      1. Lori says:

        Wow, Jason, that is really nice of you. You’re ruining your image! Perhaps there is something rude I can say to help you get past this. You are very entertaining. Blessed be!

        1. Jason D Bender says:

          I am a Liberal Progressive, check… Educated? Check! Woke? Check! bipolar… yes… a bit

          Sometimes I get emotionally invested in an argument. No problemo.

          Sometimes I go without sleep a day or 2. Also no problem.

          Mix the two? Ooops! Well. You done messed up good, boy! Looks like you are going to have to eat some crow or find new friends… lol

  4. power to the people says:

    I swear….a lot. I have tattoos, I ride a bike and am a general “wildman”. I am however, law abiding, so I am not an outlaw.
    I am a minister, and I talk to real people in a real way. I don’t put on a false show to try to make people think I am some “holier than thou pastor goodie two shoes”. Fakery loses people very quickly.

    I do get a lot of people who normally would listen to “religious talk” to hear me.

    I also combine creationism with evolution, and science with religion. “Big Bang”? = God created the universe. Monkey to man evolution = we became “mankind” and got awareness/the Garden of Eden at the moment God made man from apes. The Bible does say He created the animals first…..

    I didn’t watch the clip, I don’t need to, I get it..

    1. John Owens says:

      I am right there, with you, power. I am an MC patch-holder and a Christian. I think many people do not know the difference between being righteous and being churchy. I know how to behave at church, but I am not churchy, yet people trust me, want me to speak at loved ones’ funerals, do weddings, ask blessings on meals. I don’t really preach anymore, because to me that is a profession invented by pagans. This dude, well, I don’t know his “doctrine”, but if things he says helps others have more peaceful, fruitful lives, more power to him.

      1. Jason D Bender says:

        What a maroon!

        1. Carl Elfstrom says:

          Maroon is a color. You might try using the word moron instead.

          1. Jason Bender says:

            From an intentional mispronunciation of the word moron used by the cartoon character Bugs Bunny.

            Noun
            maroon (plural maroons)

            (slang, derogatory) An idiot; a fool.

          2. Jason D Bender says:

            Who is the maroon now?

    2. Michelle Teeter says:

      I am a female with tattoos. I cuss a lot. I am an atheist but can talk religion with the best of them. I liked this guy. I don’t like the holier than thou speeches. This guy is my kind of guy.

      1. James says:

        I heard no “yelling”, but i do see his mic / gain is up to high & he is over modulating his recordings.

      2. Carl Elfstrom says:

        I have quite a few tattoos, but they don’t cuss at me and I don’t cuss at them. I rode motorcycles all the time, rain or shine, for years, as did my father, starting years before I was born,and he was a former Marine,who retired from the seaman’s union,then drove a taxi cab for years, and was a staunch member of A.B.A.T.E. and was an atheist, but I can’t remember having heard him cuss, and he never got a tattoo. Different strokes for different folks. I rode motorcycles until they rode me too much, and caused me to not be able to ride them anymore. So now I get around on a bicycle. I’ve got to be on two wheels. I get a headache when riding in cars. I don’t cuss much anymore, and am usually law abiding. I’m also much better at not getting caught. That comes with age and experience, and only cussing when and where it’s appriate. As a youngster I hung out with a lot of very bad boys, and we did a lot of cussing. I started going to A.A. meetings when I was twenty, and was they weren’t doing much cussing in them, so I quit cussing, to fit in better. Thirty five years later, I had a shot of Bailey’s in my coffee this morning, and avoid going to those goddam, worthless meetings as much as possible. I still don’t cuss much anymore, and neither do the former badasses who I sometimes hang out with. Maybe we’ve developed better vocabularies over the years. I don’t know for sure, but cuss words don’t come to mind nearly as often anymore, except for when I’m angry, and I don’t get and stay angry nearly as often as I used to.

        1. Jason D Bender says:

          Yeah, but when you smash your big toe really F ing hard, what sayest thou? “$%%#”! or “Gosh darn it!” …. we all know the answer is not rated G.

      3. WILLIAM BAKER says:

        YOU CAN TALK RELIGION, BUT NOT CHRISTIANITY, CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION. RELIGION IS MAN SEEKING GOD, CHRISTIANITY IS GOD SEEKING MAN

        1. Lori says:

          You’re right, William, in that religion is man seeking God, but Christianity is not God seeking humans. We, as humans, are always connected to Spirit if we choose to acknowledge it. We reach within and without to raise our awareness of divinity. Christianity is a man made religion that has, in many ways, become abusive to it’s followers. We are all seekers if we choose to be, but God is always present in everything that exists, including us. So GOD DOES NOT NEED TO SEEK.

    3. j says:

      Adam & Eve were created, yin/yang. Opposing forces. up/down, right/left, good/bad, 4.5 billion+ years ago, 2k years ago. And now 2018. Adam & Eve were created in the image of GOD. GOD = Love. who knows what GOD “looks” like 4.5 billion+ years ago. Rib does not = the physical thing we know a “rib” is today”. its more of a metaphor. Ape evolution AND god created man may BOTh hold truth in all or part. Adam may have been yin/yang in a cesspool of soup 4.5 billion+ years ago in a collision of 2 or more planetary bodies. As in this example… https://phys.org/news/2010-08-secret-life-simple-sheets-.html

      1. Jason D Bender says:

        Add a little BBQ sauce to those ribs and you have a entree to go with that soup! Add in some word salad and you have a meal worthy of the king of kings!

    4. power to the people says:

      EDIT: I DID end up watching the clip.

      I would call the clip just “real talk” from an elder to the young folks. A bunch of “MF-ing” and such, big deal, gratuitous swearing that doesn’t even have any real impact anymore, except maybe on your grandmother. The message was common sense, but NOT preaching….more of a “motivational speaker”, lol.

      When I talk to people about “religion”, I don’t go to the “MF” extreme, but I don’t sugar coat my language either.

      1. Carl Elfstrom says:

        My grandmother ( on my mother’s side ) cussed like a sailor, in both English, and the Cicilian kind of Italian,and taught me a lot of words that I never would have thought of, that we sometimes called each other, and other members of our dysfunctional family. However, I’ve heard that functional families don’t talk that way. I don’t know about that. My other grandmother never cussed at me, but my father’s side suffered from a lot more mental illness. Despite the fact that my great grandfather, Sir Ernest Grave of Manchester was a member of a British order of knights and quite a gentleman, my father had to quit being a sniper scout in recon when diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic, and Grandma Ethel died from Alzheimer’s disease, but my hellraising grandmother was never diagnosed with anything, and lived to be more than ninety two and a half. So maybe I should go back to cussing more, and drinking beer in honky tonks. It might help me live to be very old.

        1. Jason D Bender says:

          Might make that life worth living, too. I would rather die the slave of a foul mouthed vandal than be the king of the damn prudes!

          1. Maria says:

            Your choice…..

          2. Jason D Bender says:

            There may have been a small amount of hyperbolic exaggeration the that post.. LOL

  5. Pastor B Stevens... NW Arkansas says:

    He’s dead on right in these times , Wake up that hypomotized person and all this crap about money over your flock is BULL SHIT prosperity churches are in my opinion greedy evil outfits . I’m a pastor I’ve herd it all and it truly pisses me squarely off hearing these stories . People struggling to pay common living bills to be hit up with insane must pay church request . If you don’t any up find another place to worship … I’d love to see judgment day for that crew of Christian thugs 🤔✌🏼

  6. Michelle Teeter says:

    I really like this guy. Nothing else to say

  7. J says:

    BS from the pulpit? LOL A few points to cover here. 1, As vulgar as he may be there is a lot of truth to his words. 2, He is reaching an audience that requires the BS in BS form. Kinda like filling a nitch. A BADLY needed nitch. 3, As bad as the current humans Mental, Physical, Emotional & Spiritual health is these days. Many kids are worse off then their parents in these 4 arenas of health. We are tapering into generations where the parent will be out living their kids in droves. It is about time the BS is cut thru. Unfortunately it may take some serious, blunt ego bruising to get thru the thick skulls of many ppl these days in an attempt to deflect humans back (even close to being) on track. 4, As I tell ppl, My words are also tough (no vulgar thou) but tough. I like to hit the nail on the head. Blunt to the point. Few have an interest unless there egos & feelings are catered to. I tell them “if we as a species (singly or collectively) Keep on the current path. “LIFE WILL BE TOUGHER than the word you hear”. 5, He hones in on a few of the causes of being an enabler, things that perpetrate the down-fall of relations (micro or macro). It must be done. Now, lets give the man that holds a BS deg a Fxxking a shot, will ya ppl. LOL.

  8. Gail D says:

    If his crude language gets the attention of listeners who would otherwise pay no attention to his message (become a useful, productive member of society and stop making excuses) then I don’t see or hear a problem with it. More than a few people need to take this lesson to heart to help improve society as a whole. And no, don’t just get a job to get the p*ssy; stick around and help raise that child or be responsible about birth control. Being a working man is great for your own self-esteem, regardless of your sex life, too!

  9. Daniel R Thomas says:

    Opinions are offered, but the Word is where the answer lies.

    1 Corinthians 9:19-27 NASBS
    For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I may win more. [20] To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; [21] to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law. [22] To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some. [23] I do all things for the sake of the gospel, so that I may become a fellow partaker of it. [24] Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win. [25] Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. [26] Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim; I box in such a way, as not beating the air; [27] but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.

    Colossians 1:9-12 NASBS
    For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, [10] so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; [11] strengthened with all power, according to His glorious might, for the attaining of all steadfastness and patience; joyously [12] giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light.

    We are called to know and spread the Will of the Lord to man. And we are to do it in a manner worthy of that calling. And to do so in way that does not disqualify us from that calling. So to carry this man’s philosophy to the end, to understand one who murders, we too must murder. To know evil we must become evil ourselves? I think not. There is a clear line between living in darkness and living in the light.

    If we see the light dimmly in the distance, then we know we are in the dark. We might be heading in the right direction, but we are still in the dark.

    John 3:19 NASBS
    This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.

    Yes, Jesus Himself went to the sinner. He said that the doctor goes where there are the sick, because that is where he is needed. But the doctor does not become sick to treat the sick. In fact, he armours himself against the very illness that he is there to do battle with.

    So no. I do not agree with this man’s approach to salvation. When the apostles were but still fisherman, and they dragged their catch nets into their boats, they separated the good fish from the bad. Jesus came and made them fishers of men. They too separated the good from the bad. Not by discarding the bad into trash heaps, but changing them into good men.

    1 Corinthians 6:11 NASBS
    Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

    Preach the Word, in season and out of season. Hold fast to what is good and cast off what drags you back into the darkness. What this man does is to grasp on to the Desease part thinking he can save the whole. While imaginative it is not worthy of the abilities this man has truly received from God.

    Try harder. Pray more. Grow closer and above all choose love and not vile.

    1. Rev Will says:

      Ephesians 5 New International Version (NIV)
      5 1 Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children 2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

      3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.[a] 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

      8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) 10 and find out what pleases the Lord. 11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. 14 This is why it is said:

      “Wake up, sleeper,
      rise from the dead,
      and Christ will shine on you.”

      15 Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, 16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. 18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, 20 always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  10. WILLIAM BAKER says:

    PRAISE GOD

  11. Maria says:

    Wow! I am shocked at the language. He’s right but wow!! I think he could have made his point in a much nicer way, without the foul crude disgusting language. When our people of ministry stoop to that level they lose respect from others, And I immediately lost respect for him. I would never sit through one of his surmons let alone join his congregation….he probably attracts disgusting people just like him. Shame on him!

    1. Jason D Bender says:

      Judge not, you damn pearl-clutching prude!

      1. Maria says:

        You don’t even know me, so look who’s judging who! You must be just as disgusting as him.

        1. Jason D Bender says:

          Glad to state, that all throughout human history, people like me have been slaughtering the F out of people like you without giving two buckets of spit’s worth of damn what you think…

          1. Maria says:

            And if we didn’t have people like you we wouldn’t be having this useless conversation!

          2. Jason D Bender says:

            RBAY… Right Back At You! lol. Winning a debate with points that apply as equally to

  12. Daniel says:

    I think the people who are making a big deal out of the choice of vocab you Larry are choking on a knat While swallowing a camel. Words are just a vehicle to carry a message. If some of the words used result in more people hearing the message that they wouldn’t otherwise hear then I would have to consider that to be a good thing. If some people have a problem with the words this minister uses then they can stick to their own choice of words to hear their version of the message, but they shouldn’t be Against other people who might not otherwise take the opportunity to listen to the message

    1. Jason D Bender says:

      problem is that “they” are really F ing stupid… so, what can one do but mock the S out of them?

  13. Old Bill says:

    He’s simply taken fire and brimstone to toilet functions to appeal to his audience.

    1. Jason D Bender says:

      As Martha Stewart would say: “That’s a good thing!”

  14. Rev. D.L.Lowe. says:

    I refuse to judge. I just have a personal view, that when addressing one’s congregation a certain tact is expected to achieve respect…..that being said, if it works for him, amen!

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